Backstabbing D*ck (Full @MadisonandHayden Interview)

this morning. i'm so sorry we're like meeting like. this oh my god. you didn't have to i'm so sorry okay do. you want to like talk about it. are you fine to talk about it or no yeah. i'm fine um. i don't know oh my god have you ever. have you seen all this that's going on. dude. okay i like started to try to pay. attention when i like i saw. your like sort of your side and i was. like. i felt really bad for you because. you're 18 years old and i was like when.

i was doing this [ __ ] i would be like. if i post if i had your platform at 18 i. would be. cancelled in two seconds like the [ __ ] i. was doing in college. and then like you guys have it so rough. as much as people like tick tockers like. i've been doing it since i was in sixth. grade. wait you have i'd be a senior in high. school right now but i graduated early. okay i have so okay so. you so there's more drama yeah i found. out this morning that jaden likes nessa.

so. yeah go me. he told me over text and i have the text. so he can't deny it. yeah i i'm not laughing i'm like. no you're fine i'm laughing. what a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] yeah nobody. knows the whole story and i get my point. like. i made myself look [ __ ] crazy as [ __ ]. for posting that ticket but did you do. that. but did you i was mad i had every right. to [ __ ] post that.

and yeah i was mad my attentions weren't. hurt josh my attention to her jaden like. my intentions were to show that like. [ __ ] you nessa honestly. she used to be my best friend okay. together okay. okay i talked about it okay i don't care. i. because i told jayden i wouldn't talk. about it on barstool and here we [ __ ]. go. [ __ ] you josh do you like josh josh is. one of my best friends i've known josh. for. over like three years now um he was my. best friend he's known me. even in my past relationships um and he. was like my best friend and he [ __ ].

hates me now. okay yeah it's gonna be okay. thank you i'm here don't worry we can. talk about it i don't know. okay i'm just gonna ball my eyes out. that's fine um. okay this is i'm i already. i'm like emotional for you right now. because i have been there. where you find out that your boyfriend. i'm gonna just think about it like. she's my best friend and i don't give a. [ __ ] if she's not my friend anymore. i like i wish you the best but it's like. you were my best best friend.

and i know like like we can't start. recording okay. okay okay let's start recording okay um. i for at first i was gonna ask you like. how the [ __ ] you got into social media. like all this i just tell you the whole. [ __ ] story. yeah cause i'm like you are so young and. i think like. i wanted to have you on because i'm like. i feel like so many people are like. oh my god tick-tockers are so [ __ ]. stupid they're embarrassing they have no. talent and i'm like. i understand what you're trying to get. at but i also.

have to say like if i was [ __ ] 18. right now and had. the platform that you have it's not like. college when i would post it in college. it's like. okay my friends can get pissed at me and. then you like discuss it in the dining. hall you're like oh and 11.6 million. people are following you. how did you get into social media i got. into social media well first off i. downloaded instagram when i was in fifth. grade. um so that was like eight years ago nine. years ago and i. i just did it for fun whatever and then. my friend in sixth grade showed me this. app called musically which is what tik. tok was before it was like you know tick.

tock. and i did it for fun and it was an app. you just lip sync and just like you know. live your best life like. no one judged you at all like social. media was so fun back then honestly i. just don't think it's fun anymore um. but so yeah i started out musically and. then um. my phone was like vibrating i started on. musically and i was getting featured and. featured is like this little red box. that goes on your videos and it like. shows like the app shows you like oh. they like your content and it's called. the featured page instead of the for you. page. which for me is so crazy because i've. seen this app like evolve and like.

transport what it is now and then so i. kind of blew up on there there's a thing. called crowned which is verified. got verified on there at like five. thousand followers like really like not. that many followers at all. and then you know i just i just did it. you just have fun and then i started to. blow up and then i got a million. followers two million three million. i got three million followers and then i. stopped doing it because it changed to. tick tock i went to that party two. three years ago i think was three years. ago in november. when that party was like transforming. from musically to tic toc they were like. and tick tock is here and me and my.

friends are like. you know like baby arielle zach clayton. jacob sartorius lauren gray we were all. like. that's stupid like we had our time the. app is kind of childish now we're going. up. let's just pursue our dreams and acting. singing dancing modeling everything. because you know we believed in. ourselves and then we were like you know. what there's a new wave of people that. we could be friends with you know. being in social media is really hard. like making friends with people and. because people judge you for like lip. syncing. and stuff like that and you know a lot. of people in my hometown didn't believe. in me. and believing in me and a lot of people. related that like people doing social. media i'm sure your hometown people.

are like what the [ __ ] are you doing. yeah you're like [ __ ] off you make more. money than you right. and so we were like okay let's do it and. we all just did tick tock and we. realized wait it's actually kind of fun. it's not toxic i mean it's the same. thing just a different name. and we're like you know what let's do it. you can kind of tell we are musers right. because we did like. our videos in fast motion right and so. we kind of transformed it into a tech. talker. and then i was still verified on there. because i was like you verified on. musically. and then i now i have 11 million. followers on there which is insane i. love my supporters so much i always call. them supporters because i feel like.

they're family to me and i love them and. i wish them the best honestly. um and then i did youtube after i did. musically and i used to get a lot of. views on there i just stopped doing it. because it was really draining mentally. draining you know. filming your videos editing your videos. and just it's like you have to like film. your life you know what i. know what i mean so i actually started. saying this quote just remember you're. beautiful. which is jryb which is my merch comes in. i use the symbol of a butterfly. because for me a butterfly is like a. butterfly can't see how pretty it is and. that butterfly is one of the most. beautiful insects ever.

their wings are so vibrant so bright and. they can't see that and so i always. resemble myself as a butterfly because. it matters what's on the inside right. not what you can actually see on the. outside because in my opinion i don't. think anyone's. like beautiful unless your soul's. beautiful and i'm not like degrading. people's looks i'm just no i totally get. i see that on your instagram. yeah i i love that you do that it's like. really dope that you're like always. posting that always hashtagging that i. think like a lot of women obviously and. girls like resonate with that. yeah no of course and even guys like i. mean i have a lot of guy supporters who. say like you know i know this like.

beautiful is a very girly word but it. helps like a lot. because i just want people to feel loved. and know that i'm not trying to force. any like christian or catholic or. anything like that onto people or like. godly things. but i'm a christian and i think that if. you believe in that god thinks you'll do. the best things you'll do the best. things if you just believe in yourself. and believe in him. and that you're loved whether you're. loved by a lot of people you're loved by. him. and so i want to spread that as i love. them too so then you get 11.6 million. followers and everyone's like everyone. has an opinion on your life.

everybody do you re do you like wish you. weren't. in the spotlight or um actually no for. me i take it as a learning point in my. life. like people are gonna say what they're. gonna say that's why i say uh let the. hate build your beauty. because instead of letting someone take. comment make you feel bad about yourself. make you feel good about yourself. because they're going out of their way. yep to comment on. your post yeah you have no idea who they. are if you're gonna be. gonna be honest i have no idea who you. are but you're commenting this rude. comment of how i look ugly.

in this photo but you still went out of. your way to comment that so i just let. that build me up and start bringing me. down i think that's really smart but i. also think like. you are in a way relatable to like there. are girls in high school and college. right now that. don't have as many followers than you. but they also get so much hate like. girls are joking because that girl. posted a selfie and she didn't look as. cute and then her friends are talking. [ __ ] behind her back. and it's like do you have have you had. like a mental moment to have to like. block off that you could share with. anyone like. it literally how do you get through that.

because you get it on a grand [ __ ]. i mean honestly everyone that does. social media that's your fault for. putting your life on social media in. general you can't blame any of your. supporters for being like well you do. you're talking about this stop talking. about this you have to admit that you. bought it onto social media. and then take a step back and like think. about what you just did. because you put it out there and so i've. cried on social media before i've gone. live before and just told them that my. mental health is awful. yeah and then i just need a break and. you know my whole thing is to help those. people who go through that. and i can't help them if i'm not help.

myself just like i say if you're not. happy. you can't make someone else happy. because if you're not happy you're. making them feel better. in the wrong way i can when you say. though. i had seen you posted something like it. was like months ago maybe a month or so. ago and you're like hey guys i'm taking. a break from social media like my mental. what do you mean by your mental health. like is it. your are you going through it because. you're going through it because of. social media like is it the hate. comments is it. not even that i mean whether it's social. media that's making you feel bad about. yourself or just your life.

in general just life situations things. that are happening behind the camera. there's a lot of things behind the. camera that people don't know your. supporters don't know at all and. sometimes you don't want to tell them. you don't have to and so my point of not. being on social media and me being not. on there when i'm at break. i didn't mean for a month i didn't mean. for a year a week i literally just meant. for however long i wanted and that was. two days that's all i needed. to just regroup go back to god lean on. god instead of just leaning on the. people that don't actually even know me. are you close with your family uh yeah i. really i am i talk to them all the time. every and aren't you.

a i'm a triplet dude that's [ __ ]. nuts we which are so you have is it two. is a boy. it's a girl and a boy um i was last born. so there's a b and c. my sister's born first her name is riley. and then my brother named dakota and. then me. yeah we're all born on christmas eve too. what the [ __ ]. we are you guys is it true like the all. the twin [ __ ] i hear of like you guys. have like telepathy like is it. three of you sometimes it's true i mean. like we'll say certain things then we'll. be like. oh my gosh no way you just yeah you were.

thinking that and then. i mean some of these i mean that's cool. thing it happens sometimes but we're not. identical. we're fraternal i kind of feel like that. affects it in a way that does i might be. just i might sound stupid i don't even. know what i'm saying no no i. i agree if you walk in the room you look. identical people like holy [ __ ] [ __ ]. yeah. a lot of times people wouldn't even know. if you want and you really have to know. them if you. get to tell them apart okay do they live. in l.a uh my sister does she lives with. one of my friends indiana okay and my. brother. still lives at home in temecula and you. are moving into a house with a bunch of. girls yes i actually already did yeah i. live in a. just a house la literally the most.

open-minded sweetheart of girls i've. ever met in my entire life do you think. that that though you have to be like. careful because you see how. [ __ ] quick [ __ ] changes no not at all. these girls are different. like when i say different i'm not just. hyping them up like they are different. they have my back i have their back like. i just love them so much they're really. sweet okay. so you are going through a public. breakup. yes and i feel i literally felt so bad. you walking crying today i'm like holy. [ __ ] you didn't need to come so thank. you for coming.

of course um can you kind of explain the. situation to anyone that doesn't know. yeah of course. okay so sorry right now if i cry it's. okay but i just want to. say a big apology to josh oh um it's. gonna make me cry um. i [ __ ] love josh so [ __ ] much. she's literally like one of my best. friends i've known him for. three years now almost um i went on tour. with him. um and i just i got to know him. throughout the three years and. i saw how much he really loved nessa and. he saw how much i really love you know. jaden and stuff like that. and the fact that he called me crazy um.

i don't [ __ ] blame him at all. um because i did release that video of. that edit and i never realized it would. be posting that i'd be hurting josh. yeah but i was because that is literally. his ex-girlfriend so i'm an idiot for. posting it. um i feel like i had every right to post. it because i was mad and it was my. feelings but i honestly didn't. have to post it on social media right. and i did so i just want to say sorry to. josh. i love him i think he'll respect that a. lot i. but when you posted it i think any girl.

can relate like. when you think that your boyfriend is. being [ __ ] shady on you or cheating. on you whatever the [ __ ] like i'm sorry. but. the your eyes just glaze over and you're. gonna yeah i mean you just get mad i. mean you lose. you lose self-control and you're like oh. my gosh i'm so mad and then you make. stupid decisions but then if people are. like okay but like she should know. better because she's a platform i don't. think so if i was [ __ ] 18 i'm posting. that video. are you [ __ ] kidding whether i have a. platform or not i built that platform. because i wanted that platform because i. love all my supporters and i want them. to feel loved that is that is what i. want. right so me posting that is my decision.

yeah that's your story does it matter if. i have followers or not. if you didn't have followers and you did. have followers you would still post it. can you post it even if i had a thousand. points. exactly i think any girl would have. posted a thousand or 1.6 million. right why did you how did you post it. what made you think that. you are your friend was cheating on you. with your boyfriend okay so. i'm not going to go in full detail but. i'm literally just going to say the. exact truth. i don't care if anyone thinks i'm crazy. after this because i know i'm not crazy. um i don't like my girls thank you um.

okay so i broke my phone this morning. okay not this morning but you know i. broke. my phone one morning and jayden was. going to laguna okay with. nessa uh cooper quinton their manager. and. nessa's manager bri okay and they were. going they've had that plan for like a. week now and he. went and i was like okay i don't care go. with your friends go for it because. they're cooper quinn and jaden all live. together now. and i was like go for it cooper's mom. wants to celebrate them like my her son. moving out and.

she wants to make dinner for them do it. go for it they went okay. i broke my phone that morning something. happened i broke my phone. and he gave me his phone okay like my. own boyfriend gave me his phone because. he did it for a. safety reason oh my gosh i'm leaving my. girlfriend doesn't have a phone let me. give her mine. he comes back into the house after he. left 10 minutes later and is like give. me my phone. and i was like why and he was like my. manager i'm not going to say her name. my manager thinks that you convinced me. to give me. you me to give me your phone because.

like you broke yours that's your fault. you broke it so now his manager. convinced him that. he was wrong for just giving you his. phone. for a safety reason okay and i was like. okay fine he has an ipad right. oh [ __ ] so he gave me his ipad okay but. before he gave me his phone. he deleted a message on his phone. because i saw it you know when you see. someone yeah yeah yeah and they're like. this and they go like that. yes i saw that motion and i'm like maybe. i'm just crazy maybe i'm just crazy and. i was like did you delete something off. your phone. when you before you handed it to me and.

he goes no i swear to god. he swore to god i swear to god no i. didn't if i know better is i'm. going to be on the [ __ ] eyes on the. ipad right [ __ ] idiot okay so. i have his ipad i did not think anything. of it go through his ipad nothing i was. like no it's his privacy i'm not going. to go through it i didn't go through his. phone when i had it i didn't go through. his ipad right. later that night he hasn't answered me. at all the whole day. usually i was at a darty which is a day. party right they were swimming i was in. a swimsuit he's always very. very protective not jealous in a way. right he's very protective he was very. like. hey um he would always be like hey are.

you okay just wanna make sure okay. nothing literally not one thing six. hours later went by and which is fine. i'm not crazy i'm not trying to but you. know the pattern right yeah. i said hey i just want to make sure okay. did i said all this other stuff. six hours later i went by and he said. uh how are you messaging him uh through. his ipad okay so i'm messing him through. through i don't know actually i went and. got a new phone oh okay i got a new. phone. i forgot to include that right i got a. new phone so i had all that information. so you have his ipad yeah i have his. ipad and i was like okay got my new. phone.

i'm gonna leave his ipad whatever so. wasn't looking at his ipad at all. get on my phone hey i got my new phone. just wanna let you know hope you're. having a great time okay also like why. the [ __ ] aren't you texting me what's. going on right now. didn't text me six hours later texted me. and then i was like whatever it's fine i. didn't think anything of it. and then a couple hours more went by and. i had this gut feeling and i was like. no why am i getting this feeling why do. i every time i think of nessa and jaden. why do i have this feeling. i mean it's not weird that she's there i. mean that's cooper's best friend and. like whatever i mean. sab is cooper's girlfriend um didn't.

think anything of it i was like no no. it's just them it's fine it's whatever. and then i got this gut feeling so i. went on his ipad and i was like no i'm. snooping i can't do that i had a gut. feeling did it anyway. i went on his text messages with his. manager because nessa's name didn't pop. up. right and went on the text with his. manager and. there's a text from him that says i'm. coming to laguna and then there's. voice recordings from him and then he. says delete those don't save them. she doesn't save them then she sends two. voice recordings. of her saying i'm so glad you're coming.

that makes me so happy the feelings are. mutual between you and nessa. you just have to make sure you're not. with mads i'm so glad mads isn't coming. um you just have to break up with her um. hopefully this time you'll have another. moment. meaning him vanessa and that hopefully. you guys can pursue. what you already started so in my mind. my heart's racing hella [ __ ] fast my. blood is boiling you know as a girl that. is my boyfriend i'm like. we and you pressed play on these voices.

and i'm such an idiot that i didn't. screen record these but i swear on my. life. they are real i have a text with jaden. that says about the. voice recordings and he says yeah i'll. tell josh that there's voice recordings. because they're real i know. okay wait were you [ __ ] nervous that. i'm if you listen to it don't they like. disappear so what if. they disappear after 24 hours okay okay. okay as i was reading them and listening. to them they were disappearing. disappearing okay okay i'm literally. shaking right now because. also it's [ __ ] because you're right.

now it brings in josh where it's like. right now. and in my mind in my mind i'm like holy. [ __ ]. josh josh and at that point nessa and. josh were already broken up. got it nessa and josh broke up like two. weeks before but it doesn't matter. because josh's best friend was jaded. like yeah there's loyalty there that's. supposed to be so. anyways i'm literally shaking okay so i. see the voice recordings they're. disappearing. i called jaden doesn't answer me called. him literally i don't give a [ __ ] if. anyone calls me crazy called him 20. times i would too. caught him 22 and he doesn't answer.

i text cooper and i'm like tell jane to. answer me right now. and he said okay calls me back. and i said you have one chance to tell. me the [ __ ] truth. i was like i just want the truth jayden. he said okay. he was like i don't like you anymore and. he told me he doesn't like me anymore. which i believe him. i didn't like him either at that point. and not even after i saw that i was kind. of losing feelings for like a week now. same with him. because we just weren't happy we weren't. healthy and we weren't making each other.

happy like i said you can't make another. person happy if you're not happy. yourself right so it was like a god. thing it was kind of like okay. we jumped into our relationship too. quick of trying to make each other happy. and it didn't work but you don't go. cheat on someone go behind their back. like very cleanly and so. that was why we broke up not because of. nasa not because of anything was. happening not because he went to laguna. just we weren't happy we should have. broken up two weeks ago but we didn't. love the kid i wish him the absolute. [ __ ] best no he did not cheat on me. he did not get with nessa that's what he. said that's what i'm gonna believe he. did not get with her at all he said he. would never do that to josh.

okay he would never do that to josh no i. love how he doesn't say he wouldn't do. it to you. yeah whatever okay um anyways where even. was i okay so. so you finally find this out you listen. to that yes and so you told me that we. break up. we talked like an hour just crying on. the phone whatever is this then you go. and release the video. then the next day we have a really great. conversation me and jayden. we talk we apologize everything's fine. left on a great note. you know what he told me the night. before first thing he said what don't. tell josh.

and i'm like why if you didn't do. anything wrong. josh has every right to know of those. voice recordings and sh and. their manager and nessa's intentions. because obviously their intentions were. to get jaden. to like nessa to be with nessa but to. break up why do you think that. gives a [ __ ] in my opinion i think it. was for clout i figured i think they're. brainwashing them and. wanting nessa to be together because it. looks good they're all looks good. they're on the same side. i just want to say screw every person. who says i'm jealous of the song that. song is so good i'm. so proud of them i mean kimmel ellen.

that's so cool amazing. so cool amazing literally i'm not. jealous but how would you feel if your. boyfriend then all of a sudden it like. makes sense. what's happening josh says on the. podcast that i'm calling him crazy. or calling him i'm crazy i'm calling him. thousands of times i called him twice. i said hey it's important he said okay. you can text it and i was like no. i want to talk to you i want to talk to. you yeah he runs to jaiden obviously. if it was me i would run to my friend. and be like why is your ex texting me. right. they didn't know we were broken up at. that point so josh is like yo your. girlfriend he's probably like yo your.

girlfriend's calling me what's going on. jaden didn't tell him anything dude. clearly because i was on bff's podcast. and literally josh was like i really. hope. like it's not true i don't think it's. true i don't think it's true this poor. guy is walking around. and i'm gonna clarify again they did not. get with each other i believe they. didn't get one together so i'm just. gonna continue to believe that they. didn't get with each other. but he still did that he still went to. laguna he still lied to me about the. message he deleted he still lied to me. that. seeing her he literally saw me all the. time yeah and i always told him you know. that was my best friend now she's my. like enemy kind of please tell me if. she's ever somewhere. you would want that absolutely you would.

want if you were in my position you. would want that if that one guy was. there. absolutely it's called respect it's not. called being crazy it's not called being. controlling it's called [ __ ] respect. in a relationship dude there's nothing. worse than finding something out. when you're not supposed to find it out. by someone that you're supposed to be. able to [ __ ] trust. literally like where's the [ __ ]. loyalty so josh calls me crazy whatever. all of that happens on social media then. after telling josh and me and jaden. having a good conversation i think in my. mind and i'm like. damn i heard the song that says sabotage. i'm like so true i posted it as a joke. yeah i was mad i still posted that video. as a joke sabotage for me.

didn't mean cheat sabotage for me it did. not mean oh nice i got with jaden. you were my best friend and you didn't. like me. and so you literally do that you do that. yeah. it's kind of worse i wish you would have. gotten with you yeah like that would. have made it just like work. yeah you guys are thinking about doing. something talking about it you're there. like what the [ __ ]. you're going behind your back so when. does does josh know yet. uh this morning um i saw some stuff on.

twitter. that said that nessa was at jane's house. late at night because you know i haven't. blocked on everything right same with. nessa. and i saw things on twitter saying that. she was at his house late at night at 12. o'clock. and then she was in his car at seven in. the morning this morning okay. and i know them i know my ex-boyfriend's. car i've been with you on and off for a. year i know your damn car. right okay she's in his car at seven in. the morning and i texted him. again you have one chance to tell me. like what's going on i look crazy i'm. texting back and forth i'm texting. thousands of times calling him don't.

care i don't care if i look crazy i want. to know the truth. he would not tell me and then at the. very end he told me. i like nessa and i literally have. screenshots. this morning this morning that's why i. came and cry this morning. i literally have screenshots if you want. to show them on here i have them he. cannot deny that he didn't say that. i sent it to josh and i told him i'm not. sending this to hurt you. i'm not sending this to make anyone look. bad i'm sending this to you to show you. i am not crazy when i have a gut feeling. i know it's true right. what did josh say that he gave a thought. he gave me an emoji of a thumbs up and.

jaden texted me and said. josh already knows it doesn't matter. he's a man and wants me to be happy. josh must really hate himself if he's. okay with that dude. josh josh said josh said a week ago i'm. in love with that girl yeah no i'm going. to marry that girl. and i think we're going to get back. together two days ago do what he says. it's not that i'm not going to be with. her because he found that out yeah of. course you found that out. and i found out this morning which is. like if you liked her. whether you liked her two weeks ago a. month ago or else maybe you got feelings.

for her. yesterday you tell me that right you. don't believe you have to [ __ ] hurt. a week from now a month i could have. found that out a year later. well i also think it's pretty [ __ ]. you're in an interesting situation where. like. you you've had a gut feeling you called. him out you guys break up and then it's. like well wait how do we. how do i go from here because you're. saying that nothing was happening and. then now something's. happening and so it was like your your. premonition was right all along.

something was [ __ ] going to go down. yes and now us down. i love jayden i wish him the absolute. [ __ ] best. i want him happy so if him being happy. is being with nessa. be with [ __ ] nessa if you being happy. is being with anybody else. be with them because i want you happy. his album. [ __ ] so good yeah literally can't. wait for it to come out i will sit in. the back and. literally watch him perform i don't care. it is literally the greatest album i've. ever heard in my entire life and i'm not. capping because i. am in love with this person yeah it is.

so [ __ ] good and it's going to. change people's [ __ ] life when they. hear it because i know. why he wrote it he wrote that [ __ ]. album for cooper and. i don't know if you guys know cooper's. story but i [ __ ] love that kid. and he's gone through so much [ __ ]. [ __ ] in his life and i realize that that. album is about cooper. about losing someone whether it's love a. family member over. drugs [ __ ] mental abuse eating. disorders anything. the album is going to change people's. [ __ ] life and i'm so [ __ ] proud of. him and if him being happy with her then.

[ __ ] do it. like that's i i think that's mature of. you to say i hate that you're getting. called crazy because i think it's really. frustrating crazy. dude when guys when guys come out and. they're like oh are you like. nobody calls a guy crazy ever it's. always on a check it's literally always. in a chicken it's like. how am i i'm sorry every girl is crazy. right guys make girls crazy juice world. once said. right all girls are the same and you. should have [ __ ] followed it with. all guys make girls insane right and all. guys. are a pain he should have just [ __ ].

followed it with that all guys are a. pain they make girls insane that's what. he should have said dude it's so [ __ ]. true it's like no no we're not crazy why. am i being crazy though because you're. being [ __ ] shady don't do [ __ ] that. makes a girl crazy period. dude what are you okay wait what what. are you thinking with nessa then. like it's okay i know that she's. probably gonna say some [ __ ]. i [ __ ] love nessa yeah i also wish. for the [ __ ] best i know she goes. through hard times i know her entire. life story i know her backstory. i know everything about her family i. love her to [ __ ] death. and she was my best friend yeah we lived.

with each other for about three months. all we had was each other right this is. when me and josh and jayden everyone we. all broke up okay. this is a while ago it's around fourth. of july two months before that. we had nobody we literally only had each. other okay and nessa told me. that she'll be there for me always i'll. be there for her always. it reaches fourth of july right i've. been living with myself for three months. and i go home because. something happened me and jane got an. argument i went home and wanted to go. home i lived two hours away. and then i called nessa the next day hey.

can i come up i wanna the high pass at. the time. right you know i was like can i come. with you i'm gonna go you know i just. want my mind off of everything that's. going on she said no. nobody wants you here nobody likes you. and then that's it and so at that point. i knew she got with chase and i hate to. bring this up because i know this is. really sensitive to a lot of people i. love charlie. i love chase i love josh i love i love. nessa so i don't mean to bring this up. but i know she'll come out and say this. because i'm a [ __ ] for this right so. she. was being rude to me and i was like in.

my head i was like i'll be a [ __ ] you. want to be a [ __ ] i'll be a [ __ ]. harder. right me and jayden were talking again. he texted me the day after. i just blew over everything i was like. you know what i wish ness is the best. whatever. i'm just not gonna be friends there. anymore jane text me i go hang out with. jayden and then i was talking to jane. and you're hanging out and i was like. hey this is eating me alive so i just. want to tell someone. you can't tell josh though i don't want. to hurt his feelings i was like. nessa got with chase at that point that. was like one of josh's best friends. and was he dating at the time uh no. nobody was dating so it wasn't.

technically cheating but that's still. like. yeah bro coke i was laying in the same. bed as chase vanessa it's a studio. apartment i was in the bed with them. okay oh i look over at chase and chase. goes shh. i fell back asleep so i tell josh. because jayden said if you don't tell. josh i will. right i was like you know what i told. you i'll tell josh. we called josh he was on his way home. from vegas and we said hey we have. something to tell you he goes. i swear to god if you're about to tell. me what i know you're about to tell me. i'm gonna be really [ __ ] mad he. already had a feeling. like you had a feeling now yeah so it.

gives me chills ugh it's so gross. so he came home and i was about to say. it and then all the guys cooper. jaden everyone that was there goes nessa. got with chase and he. threw the ring light through it so. pissed done with nessa nessa called me. crying and saying. your relationship with jaden's not going. to work out so you better take blame for. me you better say you got with chase you. better say it wasn't me you better why. because she doesn't know i told him and. she's like your relationship with jane's. going nowhere my relationship with josh. is going somewhere you better take the.

blame for it do it now. and i said okay i hung up didn't do it. cause i'm the one who told him. right she ended up finding out i told. him and i said yes i did i'm not gonna. deny it. [ __ ] move but what she did was a. [ __ ] move too and at that point i. didn't even think she was my friend. anymore right. months go by i'm with jaden she's with. josh we. read in a room and we're like hey i. forgive you i'm sorry i love you i want. to be friends with you again. just let's forget the past we were. stupid and mature young girls. were over it right she was becoming one. of my best friends again we were getting.

so close. and then they filmed a song together. jaden and nessa song was great. i was like go off go for it yeah i was. kind of like iffy about it me and josh. were like. okay josh doesn't make a song together. right um fine. then she started being rude to me and. everybody in the house. and we were like okay it's fine maybe. she's going through something it's fine. and then she apologized to everyone but. me and i was like okay so obviously. something's deeper. well because i can i can imagine like at. that point there's tension because like. your boyfriend. is with her and then you and josh are.

kind of like there's a lot of tension. that came over happening with this song. right and then obviously it escalated. and unfortunately like your worst fears. came true and. all of a sudden they're like basically. now together yeah we're not together but. yeah and so yeah that's really the whole. story. and have you talked to nessa no that. night i texted her [ __ ] you which is. probably really [ __ ] to do but i was. heated in the moment and i was like. [ __ ] you right i was like if you don't. answer me right now i will tell josh. right and she didn't answer nobody would. answer me except for jayden. do you feel like you're it's unfair that.

you're getting painted as like. being ridiculous for coming out with. this do i think it's unfair no. because i did post that video and. sabotage could mean multiple different. things. right do am i thankful that i get to say. my side right now. yes um because i'm not crazy anyone uh. listening to this can even say no she's. crazy she's doing this so whatever i. want to know what are you crazy for. what did you do you called your. boyfriend when you thought that you. found out that he was basically. potentially going to hook up with nasa.

and he said he wasn't so i believed him. and then he told me this morning he. likes her. but if he's happy he's happy how do you. feel right now. i kind of feel at peace um. but you were so emotional when you came. in was it just because like you got hit. with that news yeah yeah. hey with that news i was crying all. morning i was like oh my gosh i have to. go in this podcast i'm so. sorry dude no you're fine you're fine. it's better now than later. right i always knew it was going to cry. anyway so i was like i'm not going to. cry now and then i saw you and i was. like. i know i know and it's the first time. we're meeting and i'm like [ __ ] like now.

we're like i mean. someone's like are you sure you're fine. you're like well [ __ ] you now i'm not. yeah no i'm not now but i know you. walked and i was like hello are you okay. and you're like no. [ __ ] so she like literally walks in with. like sunglasses. i'm like oh my god [ __ ] dude. i i have a lot of respect for you that. you're. able to sit here and one i think it's. great that you're telling your story but. two i just feel like. i think people need to be more. understanding of. you guys right now i think that like. yeah people can say like oh they're like.

these little spoiled kids. well what if you were what if you had. this platform what the [ __ ] would you be. doing and so i think it's like. these are kids slash teen adults that. are just. trying to figure out their [ __ ] life. right now and you have a huge spotlight. on you. and i feel like your mental health of. every single day someone being like i. saw nessa even saying like someone was. like. kill yourself and like you shouldn't be. on this earth anymore it's like dude. this is like go back to high school and. college like you guys are dating. you're trying to figure it out there's. gonna be catty [ __ ] there's gonna be.

people i've been cheated on i've cheated. on people like. [ __ ] [ __ ] sucks but unfortunately. people have to remember that you're on a. larger scale you're on a platform that. now everyone has an opinion. and so yeah people can say you're crazy. but i like to break it down like you're. not crazy why are you yeah i mean you. also have to think of these things. you lose your boyfriend or your. girlfriend you lose that entire family. yeah you lose that entire. other family that you made your own. yeah i don't i don't have a sister's his. mom you know what i mean like you just. lose all of that. he gave me a promise ring and he broke. it he didn't break the ring.

give me a promise ring that i'm going to. marry you and i'm going to do this i'm. going to do that. and then you know things change and i. don't wear the ring anymore. what i can tell you is at 18. i had a boyfriend that i thought i was. gonna marry and then you're gonna look. back and be like. probably half of these people won't even. be in your life but i understand right. now it hurts so [ __ ] much. um i appreciate you coming on and. telling your side of the story i'm. really sorry that you had to find out in. a nasty way dude something about the.

ipads i found out my boyfriend was. cheating on me through a [ __ ] ipod i. have to say. if you want advice i'll give you advice. right now girls boys if you have a gut. feeling in your stomach. it's most likely one thousand percent. true. thank you for coming do you want to say. and share anything else dude i'm so. same as like i said from the beginning. like love jayden. yeah forever and always like like i said. i'll i will sit in the back of your. concerts just to watch you perform one. more [ __ ] time because. i know how talented you are and i know. how much you actually want this. i know his backstory i know his family's.

story i know everything about that kid i. know him better than anybody will ever. know him. and i just wish him the [ __ ] best. because i did think i was going to marry. him but. i already told him if if he wants to. marry someone else and that makes him. happy he can do it. i think that's a good way to look at it. i also would say i actually think it's. good that you kind of have them blocked. not in a catty way but like. you got to start to try to figure out. like what your life is without them and. maybe you'll eventually one day get back. together but like for now. it's like you gotta do your own thing. and you can't be weighed down by two.

other people. making a decision to either be maybe. they won't even be together who [ __ ]. knows. but like you've got to figure out your. own [ __ ] and you got to take care of. yourself and clearly. you've got a little battle to go uphill. right now because you were burned. someone lied to you you were getting you. people were being shady that creates. trust issues. yeah like how now all of a sudden the. next boyfriend you have you're gonna be. like let me see your [ __ ] ipad. right like it breeds insecurity when men. are. this happened to me or women whoever. does it if you're lying to someone when. you're in. break up with he should have just broken.

up with you the minute he had feelings. for her or was thinking of it. he should have broken up with you yeah. and he tells me after we broke up that's. when the feelings like came to play. not but it's like you were his. girlfriend and you were listening to. those voice messages while you were his. girlfriend so no. yeah all my friends are telling me i'm. oblivious and i don't see it but i just. i believed him. but it's hard to that people can say it. when you're looking on the outside like. oh you're oblivious like. well no because you're in love with. someone and so it's really hard to see. though. like he fully is trying to get when that.

sound you don't see it right and i'm. saying but how were you supposed to see. that when you're like well he's my. boyfriend i believe him. you believed him because you wanted to. give them benefit of the doubt because. he's giving you a promise ring he's. saying he loves you he's saying. we just went into it too quick of we're. gonna make this work that it just made. it worse. do you think there's any future of you. guys ever getting back together. right now no okay um. yeah no not at all so just focus on. yourself. literally that's all you can do yeah. focus on yourself if you're a believer.

lean on god. um what are you going to do people who. are going to treat you right and not. talk about him or her. yeah i was going to say like what are. you going to do to get through this. breakup because it's so [ __ ] public. i'm doing everything i can i mean i kind. of feel like me and jane were holding. each other back i mean. i did acting lessons this week i did. dance lessons i did vocal lessons i'm. literally doing everything i can to just. make myself a better person. um acting is my one of my biggest goals. is to be in a marvel movie. oh my god i love you do well sometimes. people when you're in a relationship. that's not moving forward you get too. comfortable. yeah and then you're like not focusing.

on yourself because you're focusing on. the other person and clearly the other. person was poking off. focusing on another person you i went. through this breakup i met jayden and i. immediately started dating him. oh it was a mistake so it's like you. have to heal that hole in your heart. fill it with god filled with good people. filled with good friends and then be. with that person yeah. you have to completely heal 110. be healed and then be with that person. that you say you love or else it's not. going to work yeah you got to be whole. on your own. and we just weren't healed we weren't. making each other happy and that's not. that's not our fault that's just how. our love is so i appreciate you telling.

your story. thank you also please nobody hate on. them no no dude there's no there is no. hate i think that's why everyone always. has to tell their side of the story i. think if you were just to like keep. going you're gonna still keep getting. hate but it's like. always know there's two sides of the. story and usually both sides there's. gonna be differences in it because. everyone's biased to their own opinion. so it's like. nobody will ever know the inner workings. of your relationship with jaden because. they weren't in bed together with you. guys. right no one will know the dynamic of. you josh nessa everyone like no one's. gonna know that but your story it makes.

sense. i think calling you crazy [ __ ] right off. anybody that's gonna say that. from this story because i'm a good i'm a. good test to be like no that's a little. crazy i can be [ __ ] crazy you did. nothing crazy. you had a gut feeling you went with it. and now we're sitting here yeah. thank you for coming on oh thank you for. having me it was really nice meeting you. oh my god yeah dude i can't believe no. first time he doesn't even know i'm. coming on here and i it sucks because he. told me. if you he goes if you go on bar stool. right now which. like what does he mean go on bargaining.

if you go on barstool it's josh's. podcast so he'll just make you sound. more oh well they forgot there's a. [ __ ] other one yeah and i was like. and it's better so. all my friends were like because if i'm. going to be completely honest i. literally never heard your podcast until. my friend busher her name's taylor. she goes she's moving to la and she's. literally gonna make like do this big. thing and i was like. who is that and she's like greatest. podcast you'll ever hear in your entire. life. all the girls i live with was like i. want to be you right now stuff she's. like i don't they were like i don't give. a [ __ ] if i had to go through what. you're going through you're on call me. dying. or what's your fault call her daddy.

daddy podcast and i was like. okay oh you're like okay fine i guess. this is. should i just make a tick tock of just. like sitting here. and being like the tea is [ __ ] hot. and then they turn it to you. yeah the tea is. [ __ ] hot. [Music].

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