Audrina Patridge: Surviving an Abusive Relationship (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. >> Audrina Patridge, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. >> Thank you so much for having me. >> I am so excited. I I've been an OG fan. of The Hills. Congratulations on writing. your book, Choices to The Hills and Back. Again. What inspired you to tell your. story? >> You know, I guess what it really.

inspired me was all the DMs from my fans. and just what I've been through. throughout the years. They were always. writing me wanting advice or to know how. I got through this or they could relate. to me. And at the time what I was going. through, sometimes it was so humiliating. and I'd get so hard down on myself, but. reading that like lifted me back up. knowing that I'm not alone. So, that. kind of inspired me to think, "Okay, well, this is my chance to.

answer all those questions in one place. Everything from The Hills to my. relationships to basically everything. that's out there in the media or gossip. or whatever that I've I've always bit my. tongue. I never said anything. I just. let people say whatever they wanted. about me. Well, this is my chance to. really put it all in one place and set. the record straight. >> Writing a book, I can imagine is it's a. huge process and you in this book take. the reader through trauma that you've.

been through. Was it difficult to relive. while writing this? >> Extremely. There were a lot of moments where I. would break down and it was so hard for. me and. you know, my ghostwriter, Jen Schuster, who is amazing, she was almost like my. therapist through it all. And I would. cry and she'd you would talk through it. and she's I was like, "I don't I don't I. can't put that in there." And she's. like, "Audrina, this you have to. You. know, so it was very therapeutic and I.

got through it and the more I talked. about it and the more I kept having to. read the book over and over. It's almost. like I conquered something that I don't. I don't cry about anymore. It's like it. was very healing. >> I can imagine that too because it's. almost like you literally started this. being like, I wanted to finally just say. my peace and then naturally there is a. part of us that like we always are like, wait, should I say this? And so it was. kind of like I love how your ghost. writer is like, Audrina, are we doing. this or not? We're going ALL IN.

>> WE'RE GOING all in and that's what I. said. I want to be vulnerable. I want to. be honest. I want to be open. So if I'm. going to do this, I'm going to do it the. right way. >> Well, let's get into what you wrote. about in the book because there is a. lot. Let's take a sip. Here we go. Okay, we're going all the way back. How were you originally cast on The. Hills? >> So. I was actually I moved to LA. I So I was. going to night school in Orange County.

and I wanted to be a psychologist. Um so. I had to drop out of college, um. community college, because I was going. to get dropped and I was like, you know. what? I'm just going to move to LA and. give it a shot. So. the place I was looking at um didn't. have anything available and I met these. two girls in the elevator and they. overheard me talking. They're from. Oklahoma and they needed a roommate. So. it was just that fell into place. So I. ended up moving in with these two girls. I didn't know. And then we were laying out at the pool. one day and Adam DiVello, who was there.

scouting for Lauren and Heidi, um came. up to us and, you know, I thought he was. this kind of cheesy producer, like, here. we go again, some guy hitting on us, like, what's your club? >> Right. >> Um but he was scouting for Lauren's. Lauren from Laguna Beach, which I never. watched, but I knew of her from tabloids. and stuff. Um so he liked my story, liked that I had my go-to nights in LA. that I was very connected. Um, and then. we started filming two or three weeks.

later and I had no idea what I was. getting myself into. >> That actually makes a lot of sense to. now looking back that you had your like. connections already because I'm sure. they wanted to make sure that like. Lauren and Heidi had a place to like. plop in. >> Yeah. And you're like, "Oh, let's go to. like Bootsy Bellows or whatever the hell. it was called." And so like you knew. what you were doing. Were you just like. chilling at the pool in a bikini? Or. were you like, "Hello, sir." I was like, "Hi, can I help you?". >> You're like, "Hello, sir.". Okay, that makes a lot of sense. So, you.

decide to start with The Hills. I'm. interested because I think a lot of. people when you think about reality TV, immediately people are like, "What did. your family think when you're like. getting followed around with cameras?". >> They didn't know what to think. They. didn't even really know what I was. getting myself into, but they were very. supportive and I moved to LA cuz I. wanted to do acting. So, I was already. auditioning for, you know, music videos. and commercials and this and that. Um, so I figured, "Why not reality TV? That's not even a thing." I knew like. the Jessica Simpson had a show. So,

that's kind of what I was like, "Well, it seems okay. Like it'll make me. comfortable with cameras.". Um, it was very uncomfortable. I hated. it in the beginning because. it's not just one camera. There's like. three and there's lighting and there's. people staring at you and it's a lot of. pressure to be yourself and open up when. you're just kind of thrown into that. >> I feel like you played the character of. the girl who had great style. Like super. edgy, the leather jackets, like worn.

t-shirts. Like I was obsessed with your. style. You were the cool girl and you. loved the bad boys. >> Yes. >> And we were all obsessed with your. relationship with Justin Bobby. When was. the first time you saw Justin Bobby and. what did you think about him? >> The first So, I was actually the. receptionist at Quigley Studios and the. first time we met, he was working there. with Steven Meisel on a shoot for. Madonna and. I was a receptionist, so he kept walking. in front of my desk back and forth and.

you could only go so far. And I was. like, "Can I help you?" Like, he's like, "Oh, I'm just looking for some. magazines." And I'm like, "There's a. stack of magazines on the table in. there." And then he would come back and. he wanted a drink. And then he would. call the all the time and I'd be like, "Good afternoon, Quigley Studios." And. he'd be like He'd like make funny sounds. and just call me to talk. And we just. started hanging out and that's like. before The Hills. >> We know that reality television.

relationships can be fake or can be. edited to look a little bit different. What was the actual dynamic of your. relationship with Justin? >> I feel like, you know, Justin is a very mysterious. man. Um. >> Yes, he is. >> You know, >> With his motorcycle. >> Um but, you know, when we first started. dating and off camera, Justin has the. biggest heart and he's so caring and he. listens and he actually cares and it's. not just me, it's whoever he's talking.

to. He's. truly connected and cares about what. you're saying and wants to help and. you know, I feel like when I brought him. into. The Hills drama, you know, he was kind. of like, "That's not his That wasn't. even my circle that I would ever go. into." cuz. I I was never a part of drama. So, bringing him into that where he was. instantly just like put on the spot, it kind of made him act out a little bit.

in his own way. And then it's like he wanted It was like. he didn't care, but he did care. So, I. got to see the Justin on camera and the. Justin off camera, which they kind of. captured both and you know, and after he. watched the first. or second season that he was on, he didn't like how he behaved. >> Were you frustrated though by the edit. of you guys ever? >> Yes, because whenever there's cameras. around, people act different. >> Yeah.

>> Um and I even going on other dates, like. they just change people. But, you know, and Justin and I were. very immature. We both played games with. each other. So, I'm I can't just blame. it all on him cuz I was doing the same. thing. But, I wish that they would have. showed more of us just like hanging out. They just wanted the action side of it, the drama side of it because if we were. just hanging out talking and. talking about music or going and playing. pool all the time, that's boring. >> Absolutely. Do you think that your.

relationship would have worked out had. there not been cameras? >> I don't think I've Not in the beginning. because. we were so in the Hollywood scene and. going out all the time and drinking and. there's always. temptation around and other people. pulling us in different directions, but. I think as we got closer, yes, we could. have if we didn't have the producers. always trying to put us at each other's. neck and trying to get us jealous at.

each other to get a scene going. >> Yeah. >> So, what was your first impression of. Lauren Conrad? >> My very first impression of Lauren when. I met her with Heidi at the pool and. then we went out, she wasn't the. friendliest person. Um she was very closed off and as we. started filming, I kind of started to. understand why she was like that and why. she didn't just welcome people instantly. because people used her a lot and like. would throw her under the bus or, you.

know, and I Now I understand why she was. like that, but in the beginning she. wasn't as friendly or welcoming. >> I mean, she was doing this since she was. in high school, right? And she started. in Laguna. I'm wondering like by the. time you started filming The Hills with. her, from you what you observed, like how did. she handle all the cameras following her. around? >> She was so seasoned already. I feel like. she had that experience. She was so. comfortable with the cameras. She knew. all the good one-liners to say, when the.

scene was ending, what to do. Like she. knew exactly what She was a. professional. She knew what she was. doing. >> When you guys would shoot a scene, okay, you're done for the day, cameras are. off, what was your relationship like. with Lauren when the cameras were not. rolling? >> Well, we ended up living together. We. had the best time together. We. we laughed, we did everything together, you know, we had our ups and downs. Lauren is a very opinionated person and. a very strong personality, and you know, if she doesn't agree with something or. like something, she's going to say it,

and that's very respectful. I liked that. cuz I don't like the black or the gray, I like the black or white. Um but we we. had some wild times. >> I remember watching them, and it was. very fun. >> We actually watched an episode for our. podcast, and Brody and Frankie were. like, "Oh my gosh, you and Lauren, like. you don't even care what you guys looked. like. You just rolled downstairs after 2. hours of sleep." Cuz we had makeup down. our face, our lashes, our hair. And I. was like, "We really didn't give a [ __ ]. what we looked like. We just woke up and.

went downstairs to film.". >> Did you guys ever like complain to each. other about the process or like who. hated production the most? >> You know, I think in the beginning, we. didn't really care. We were all for it. We were young, wild, willing to do. anything and everything because we were. out every single night anyways, so it. just made sense. Yeah, follow us. And we. would drink, meet guys, like we had no. responsibilities, so young, wild, and.

free, you know. We just didn't really. care. >> Yeah. >> What was your first impression of Heidi. Montag? >> So, my first impression when I first met. Heidi, I met her at the pool and we. instantly hit it off because Heidi is so. outgoing and fun and friendly and like. she Oh, she lives in her own skin, you. know, she is who she is and we actually. hit it off immediately and we'd go out. all the time dancing and like she'd come. to my apartment and we would drink and.

laugh and tell jokes and we had the best. time. >> Can you believe that Heidi and Spencer. are still together? >> I mean, that's one thing I respect about. Heidi and them or her and Spencer is. because they have stuck it out and. they've been through so much. and I mean, Heidi could have left him. and had a whole different life, but she. loved him and she was willing to. sacrifice and do whatever it took to. make sure that that worked and yeah,

they're still together. >> How do you feel now that The Hills is. officially over? >> Honestly, I feel good about it. I feel. like it ran its course. I think. this past new beginnings season, we all. got to a point where. there were a lot of storylines at this. point. A lot of my real life wasn't on. the show, so I was all for the. storylines where a lot of the people. were putting their real lives on the. line and wanting to film their real. lives.

Like Heidi and I, you know, your real. friendship gets put on the line because. they're asking you to say and do things. for the sake of the show, but then. you're trying to have their back, but. you're also trying to like do what. you're supposed to do to make a TV show. So, that was really hard for me and. Heidi and I, we ended up talking it out. at the end, but in my mind I had to separate my job. from my real life. Like this is our job. Like let's make a good show. >> It must be like a little bittersweet. though because you're like you've done.

this for so long. Like you now are the. season one. Like you met Lauren and. you're like you're a season. Now you're. the one that's like you're a vet. You. know exactly how to do it. And now it's. like you're moving on with your life and. you're not going to have cameras in. front of your face and it you're not. going to be a part of these crazy story. lines. Like it feels like it's like a. settling moment but also like kind of. sad. >> I actually have a question for you. I. don't know if you know this or not but. they just announced it yesterday I think. that there's a a new cast for The Hills, a new young cast.

>> Wait, I didn't know that. >> That yes, that they are it's a new Hills. of a new generation and it's more. diverse and it's about addictions and. dating in LA again and like what do you. think of that? Would you I mean I want to watch it just. because but I feel like. I mean. >> I think that that's really interesting. I I didn't realize that. I think that as. I've sat down with a like a lot of. reality television stars now, I just. feel there's so Of course there's some.

positives that come from it. I mean I've. had so many people be like I have my. career because of it. You know, I have. my platform. I make now money from it. and like it's brought so many good. things but there is this like negative. toxic side that I think maybe in the OG. days it was a little bit more authentic. I feel now like reality should literally. be labeled like reality scripted. television. >> Yes. >> Because it's it's not going to have. acting basically. Yes. And I feel like. it's kind of detrimental to people's. health at this point because of how much.

social media is ingrained in the the. process of it. And people are getting. like death threats if you're the. villain. And it's like I'm not actually. the villain. They're telling me to say. this line. So like. I don't know how I feel about it. I. don't know if I I don't think I would. ever do it now that I see this side of. it. In the past I'm like oh yeah, it. looks cool but now I think that we see a. different side. >> different now. >> we're going to have to tune in though. >> I'm going to have to tune in. I know I. sent it to Brody yesterday. He hasn't. wrote back. I was like, wait, they could.

have named it something else. Like give. this new cast a new name or like. >> like a new Gossip Girl reboot where. everyone's like, it's not going to be. with Blake Lively and Leighton Meester. It's just not the vibe. >> I know. >> [ __ ] Okay, we need to watch it. Also, like there's just when you compare. things, I'm like there's no way anything. will ever be the iconic moments of The. Hills. Like. >> No. >> the mascara moment. Yeah, like exactly. Like those moments that everyone like. remembers. Like these poor people aren't.

going to live up to that. So give them a. new name. >> Call Her Daddy is brought to you by Uber. Eats. You already know Uber Eats delivers your. late-night cravings and your favorite. restaurants, but now. listen up. They are delivering something. just as exciting. Ready for this? Sephora. All of your go-to beauty. products can show up right at your door. in as little as 25 minutes. Everything. also is the same price as it is in. store. You just basically save the time. by not having to leave your couch or.

mid-makeup order it. So it's there by. the time you have to finish your makeup. This has been such a lifesaver for me. I. actually cannot explain it to you guys, especially when I'm shooting Call Her. Daddy episodes outside of the studio and. I'm like, oh my god, I forgot this one. makeup thing. No, no, no, totally fine. Uber Eats Sephora, we're good to go. There are so many moving parts when. we're on location also and sometimes it. gets super hectic and I'll forget my. favorite lip liner and then everyone's. like, just use this one. And I'm like, I. won't look the way I want to look. I. need that exact lip liner and only. Sephora has it. So basically, instead of.

running around or settling on whatever's. ever left in my bag or borrowing from. someone, I can just open Uber Eats and. get exactly what I need right when I. need it. Order Sephora on Uber Eats. today and get your glam delivered. straight to your door. Check app for. availability. Delivery fees may apply. Transitioning. Okay. Your book, you. open up about what happened in your. relationship with your ex-husband Corey. And I mean, there's so much in it, and. it was incredible to like how much you.

opened up. I'm sure as hard as it was, there's so many young women that are. probably reading this like truly going. to take so much from it for their. personal life and gain strength. So, I. just want to say like you're amazing for. writing it that way. >> That was hard. >> Let's start from the beginning. What made you first fall for Corey? >> You know, when I first met him through a. mutual friend, I was going through the. ups and downs with Justin, and I just. felt like I needed some like a guy that.

was respected and respected in his own. industry and had his own thing going on. So, when I met him at first, I never I. didn't think of anything of it. He had a. girlfriend. You know, a year goes by. This is when MySpace was a thing. >> Who was your top five? Tell me now. >> I don't know. My song of the week? Um. and you know, our friend it was just. kind of happened organically just from. hanging out, and then whenever he broke. up with his girlfriend, he hit me up on.

MySpace. And Lauren and I decided to. invite him to our Halloween party cuz we. needed new guys, and we were hanging out. with all these or I was with these. professional BMX riders from X Games, and like they're all hot and like you. know, or I was like, "Okay, I know who. to invite." Like we're inviting this. group of guys. So, that's whenever you. first came on the show, and you know, then we actually did have chemistry, and. I liked that he was respected, and you. know, he was very healthy and all about.

his career and. he just had a whole different vibe about. him than these LA guys. >> And then, that wasn't the case, and you. write a lot about how you would catch. him cheating. >> Yeah. >> Which. we've I mean, I think I can say a lot of. us most of us have been cheated on and. it's one of the worst feelings. >> Yeah. >> When was the first time you caught him. cheating? >> Well, the you know, whenever he would go. on these tours all the time, I would. always get Twitter messages from my from.

fans that watched the show and they. would warn me and tell me that he was in. a bar in Oregon that night making out. with his friend and they loved me and. they just want me to know. So, whenever. I would confront him, he of course would. say, "They're just lying to you cuz they. don't want to want you to be happy. They're fans. Don't believe other. people. You're going to believe them. over me." So, then I started thinking, "Okay, well, I'll give you the benefit. of the doubt." And so, I tried to block.

it out and constantly believe him cuz I. didn't want to believe it, but I kept. getting these messages. And then we were never ever dating like. solidly, consistently for more than like. 6 months ever at a time until I got. pregnant. Um because I was always. filming or traveling and he was always. gone traveling and had his life. So, it. was this off-and-on relationship where. it's not a secret that it was toxic. I.

mean, there's pictures of me crying all. the time on the street or. >> Yeah. >> you know, there's footage of it. everywhere. >> Can you explain some of the red flags. and manipulation tactics that you. experienced in your relationship with. Corey? >> It's like So, I always disregarded. everything and I wanted to be in love. I. loved him and I wanted it to work so bad. that I was willing to change myself and. do whatever to make him happy. That's a. huge red flag. If someone doesn't trust.

you or they're constantly. you know, wanting you to delete your. social media accounts or constantly. wanting to go through your text messages. or you're not allowed to talk or go on. or you can't even go have a girls dinner. without being blown up the whole time. because you're being accused of going. out to cheat or there might be a guy. there that you run into. Like those are. all red flags. Run. >> it almost I'm sure made you at times. feel paranoid of like, "Oh my god, now I. can't do any of this because he's going.

to get mad." And when you're thinking. all the time about making sure your. partner doesn't get mad, like that's not. healthy. >> not even enjoying yourself. So it for me. it got to the point where. you know, I would rather not go out. because I'd rather not have to deal with. the fight and the accusations. And it wasn't just like a day fight. It. would string out over like. a week or. or something would happen and it would. come back and like, you know, it was all. projection. And then. if he thought I was cheating on him with.

one of my producers, you know, when I. was on the travel show and I didn't at a. certain time when I was in bed, like. hell would break loose. And then because. of that I wouldn't hear from him for. three or four days and then I'd find out. he was with all these girls in his hotel. room. So it was this really toxic. struggle. It's like. now girls that go through that and they. see those red flags, like pay attention. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> I think also something you said to. anyone listening that I definitely have.

experiences like the when they keep. saying that you're the one cheating, that usually means they're the one. cheating. Like you said, projection. Like why are you so obsessed with me. cheating? I have not done anything to. make you think that. >> And you usually start finding the truth. out after. Like and that's the thing. with my ex and our relationship, I would. forgive and then things would be. amazing. And then I would find the truth. out three months into us being amazing. and it would be like, "Not again.".

>> Good. Call Her Daddy is brought to you by. Depop. I feel like we all have that one. chair in our bedroom that becomes the. I'll deal with it later pile. Well, for. me. that pile has slowly taken over my. entire chair and the whole floor and the. whole room, okay? And there are pieces. in there that I have been meaning to. sell since my 2020 tie-dye sweats era. Yes, I know. Let's not talk about, you. know, also the barrel jeans phase. Guys, remember that? That trend was simply not.

for me, okay? It came and went quickly, thankfully. Um but that's where Depop. comes in because what feels wrong in. your closet might be exactly what. someone else has been searching for. Depop is a resale marketplace where you. can buy, sell, and discover second-hand. fashion that you'll actually be excited. to wear. And I know reselling can sound. a little intimidating, right? But they. make it so easy, guys. You literally. just take a picture of your item and. Depop helps with the rest, even. suggesting a price to help it sell. One.

of the best parts is the buyer pays for. shipping and there are no seller fees. So you keep more of your money. Amazing. We love to hear it. And you don't even. need a printer. You can choose a. convenient drop-off and call it a day. Whether you're cleaning out your closet, looking for a Friday night out outfit, or just experimenting with your style, Depop has something for everyone and. every style. If your closet needs a. reset, start with Depop. Download the. Depop app now and start listing today.

Call Her Daddy is brought to you by. Shopify. Maybe you're finally ready to. launch a full-blown brand, whether it's. online, in person, local, or global, Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. of starting a business. Plus, it's. actually fun to build. Shopify helps. your products get discovered everywhere. from Google to YouTube to TikTok to. Pinterest. Literally, you name it. Someone could buy your product from an. Instagram ad that links to your Shopify. store, or you could literally just drop. the link under a video. It is that easy.

Daddy Gang Shopify is rooting for all of. us to build some passive income, okay? People are shopping through AI more than. ever and now with Shopify, they can. complete a purchase right inside an AI. conversation. Basically, anywhere your. customers are, Shopify lets you sell. there. I love being able to sell merch. directly to the Call Her Daddy channel, so everything is in one place for the. Daddy Gang. Shopify makes sure there's. nothing between seeing your product and. buying it. Build your store, own your.

audience, and create something that. lasts. Start now at shopify.com/daddy. You wrote in your book, "I had grown used to being woken up in. the middle of the night by Corey. standing over me yelling and cursing. things like, 'You're pathetic. You're a. failure. You're a fake cunt.'" Yeah. To what extent were your family and. friends aware of the abusive nature of. your relationship with Corey?

>> They weren't aware of that. I tried to. hide it from a lot of people, um, because. it's embarrassing. It's humiliating. And. that's after. I, you know, I had my daughter and I. wanted it to work. I had hope, but it. just gradually kept getting worse. And. you I thought if I if we got married and. now we have this beautiful child. together, like things would be great. He. could now know that I'm his. Like, I'm. not going to cheat on him. Like, stop. worrying about that. Like, this is my.

life now. So, again, it was projection because. coming home so late and calling me those. names and making accusations and not. having any self-control, that was a huge red flag, too. And I I. hid it for a long time. >> Yeah. I really appreciate you saying. that cuz I think a lot of people can. relate to that, like feeling embarrassed. to tell people. And that's another sign, right? Like when you're hiding it from. the people that love you the most that. would accept anything that you come to. them with. Like it but it's so hard to.

just open up about it because there's. also part of you that wants it to get. better and and believes it can change. You wrote also about. finding the naked photos and the sex on. his phone. >> Yeah. >> And I have personally experienced that. and literally your heart. >> It rips your heart out. >> In those moments, how did you keep it together? >> I had to because I remember when I'd see. that, it's like I had to get up the next.

day and go film and try to pretend like. everything's fine. And I would cry. I. I kind of started to learn how to block. it out and like show up with a smile, do. what I needed to do, and cry after. Like. you just It's like you turn it on when. you need to for cameras cuz otherwise. and and I this happened with Heidi a. lot. I would always she knows me so like. we would start talking barely in a scene.

and she'd say one thing and then I. couldn't hold it together and I'd just. start crying. And they didn't show a lot of that but. it's like I couldn't help it. >> Right. >> So. um. yeah, it's hard but whenever you see. that. it's hard. I cried, I was mad, you know, I yelled. I was like get out of my. house. Get out of my house now and he. wouldn't leave. He would not leave. So I. would go sleep in the other room and I. would end up leaving my own house in the. morning and you know, then he would be.

it's my fault because I wasn't giving. enough attention or I didn't do this or. you know, so then it's like what? Like. this is such a mind. >> Again, it's almost gaslighting. Like you. just caught him doing something and. somehow in 2 seconds it's turned around. on you like well, you don't give me. enough attention. That's why And he's. justifying like him getting nude photos. And I remember you wrote about how. you're like, "And then I would try to. convince myself like maybe the girl. didn't mean to send it to him." And like. >> I know, but then I would get a message. from the girl because he called her and. she would write me saying how he loves.

me so much and they just talk about me. all the time. And I'm like, "Yeah, but I. saw your entire vagina and what you. wrote to him." Like, "How are you. and you're a fan, but like you're going. after my boyfriend? Like, what? It's. just talk It's weird. It's. >> very toxic. >> Yeah. >> You write about when you found out you. were pregnant. And you talk about how. Corey was like so excited. He was. so excited, so ready to have this baby.

with you and for the future. Did you. believe that Corey could change once he. became a father? >> I did. Like 100%. >> Yeah. >> And I remember he was you know, there is. these ups and downs and especially once. Cara was born and it's like the happiest. I'd ever seen him. And he was so excited. to be a dad and just for this new. chapter in our lives. You know, but. things gradually got worse. It kept. getting worse and worse and worse.

>> How Were you so lonely? >> Yeah. Gosh, I'm going to get like teary. I'd go This is another It's like hard to. go back. >> Yeah. >> Um I was, but I had my family. So, I. sold my LA house cuz I didn't feel safe. there. And I I took a break from TV. And I was like, "This is my life now. I'm going to make it work." Like, I am. I'm such a fighter and so determined and. you know, my main priority was my baby. and making it work with him. And I moved.

in with my you know, moved in with my. parents. I was stayed with them until my. house sold. I was back and forth. Um but I thankfully I I my family and. friends. Um. >> So, did they kind of then start to. realize cuz now he's like not even a. part of your pregnancy? >> they did, but they also knew that his. career, he was in, you know, Budapest or. he was in Australia for 3 months or he. had to be here. Like that was his job. But at least like don't disappear for 4.

days. >> and not even text you back. He wasn't. even calling you or texting you. You. were like. >> So that drove me crazy and I again, that's something I didn't want anyone to. know either. >> Yeah. >> because. I was stressing out, but I I didn't want. it to appear like that. Like I really. wanted it to work, so. >> And cuz like when you're pregnant, you. that's supposed to be a time where. you're stress-free and and you're trying. to So I can understand why you probably. were just trying to like keep it. together because you're like the energy. for my baby. I just need to like be with. my family and not focus on that.

>> of learn how just to change your focus, your priority. And my priority is to be. healthy. for this baby and do whatever it takes, no matter what happens, like this baby. is my everything. >> So once you gave birth. was. Corey You write about basically like it. it was. a struggle for Corey to be a good dad. Did you trust him to parent without you. there? >> You know, when we were together with.

Kira, he was an amazing dad. You know, he made her laugh, he played with her, he'd bring me food, he'd he was very. helpful. Um, but he was gone all the. time. He was always gone. But that, you. know, he he couldn't just be with her. He had to have all of his friends there. and turn it into like a drinking fest. And it's like, can't you just be with. your daughter one night or two nights, just you and her and not make it a thing. or like a friend thing? >> I mean, I can't imagine like. I'm not a mother, but I I can't imagine.

the. anxiety you have the minute you have. your child and everything every step. they're taking or breath they're having, you're like, "Oh my god, I you need to. focus on them." And when you wrote about. in the book. how you walked in and your daughter had. throw up. >> Oh, yeah. >> all over her. >> Well, she had it it was like stains all. over the bassinet. And when I got home. that day, I knew when I FaceTimed him. and they were drinking and running. around naked in the living room, the.

music was loud, I knew right then, I was. like, "Okay, your priorities are not. right. Like, this isn't happening. again." Because she I think she was only. four or five months. So, you know, you have to be you can't drink. or have too much fun. You have to be. there, like mentally, in case something. happens or they wake up and they cry. You can't go drinking with your friends. and then pass out with a baby upstairs. >> You then get married. What was going.

through your head the morning of your. wedding day? >> Uh, there is so much. Um, and I got. married, you know, five months after I. had my baby. And I remember my sister. was there the night before and was even. like, "Trina, you don't have to do this. Like, let's get on a plane and let's go. Mom and Dad will handle it." Like, I was. like, "I can't do that though. Like, we've gone this far. All of our family's here from Australia,

from like, everywhere is here. Like, everyone's here on this island for a. week. And I was such a people-pleaser at. that point, which now, I mean, I've done. so much healing and I've grown so much. If I could go back, things would be. different. Um, but yeah, I was I just. kind of was in robot mode. It's kind of. like jumped back into this like mode. that I used to get in on the hills where. almost like performance mode. Like, "Okay, just get your hair and makeup.

done, walk down the aisle. Everything's. going to be fine. Just get through it. Everything's going to be fine. >> It's so sad, too, cuz comparing it to. The Hills, it's like you've learned to. how to kind of like just turn it on and. off. Like turn yourself off and turn on. like just get through it mode. And yet we're talking about like your. life. Like this is This wasn't being. filmed. This is your wedding. Like it's. What advice would you give? Cuz I know a. lot of women that have written in being. like, "I don't know, but I'm getting.

married." What advice would you give to. someone who's waking up on their wedding. day with a pit in their stomach knowing. they don't want to, but they feel like. they should? Like. What advice? >> Don't do it. Because once you bring a. baby into it into the world, things. don't get easier. It gets harder. And. then marriage on top of that with. finances and parenting and decisions, like that all makes such a difference. And it's not just dating or having your. space to go to anymore. Like you're. together with someone forever. So, don't.

rush into getting married. Take your. time. >> Things. kind of got worse. You write about a. moment where he physically pushed you. and you were holding your baby. Can you kind of. walk me through that moment of what you. were feeling? >> I It was kind of like that fight or. flight mode. Like I kind of froze and I. didn't know what to do, but things kept. escalating. And when I was pushed back,

you know, and Kira started screaming and. crying and then I started crying and. then he realized what happened and then. he started crying. It was just like everything just. spiraled and it got worse and. it's like, you know, that's when my family got involved and. when the police got involved. And that's. after going to therapy and trying to. make it work, it's like. you're not changing. You're not wanting. to change. Like, I can't do this.

anymore. >> Not only is it obviously not okay to. shove you, but the image of reading it. of you holding your daughter while he's. shoving you, it's just like. heartbreaking. Because it's going back. to like the fight was wasn't it about he. thought you were cheating again? >> not that I was. I knew that he was. And at that point I. was so numb, I didn't care. I was kind. of like, and I talk about this in the. book. I got to the point where I was.

almost like, I'm glad that you're. cheating. Like, go be with anyone you. want. Just don't touch me. Like, I don't. want to be around you. Your energy, like. everything, it just made me want to run. >> I think it was. very. admirable of how you wrote about how. like you knew the minute you called the. police. it was going to be kind of over. >> Yeah. >> Can you if someone's listening explain. where you mentally were at where you. knew like that you needed to do this for.

you and your daughter? >> I knew that that moment I called the. police. that's the end of it. And and I knew. that after what had happened and just. the he wasn't going to change. And I. gave him so many chances. And once I had my daughter, it's like I. wasn't living for me anymore. It was my. life now is to protect her and to make. sure she has the best life and. and I knew that it would go all over the. tabloids because it's public records, which it did, which I was dreading and.

that's why I didn't want to do it. I. wanted to keep our life private. And it did go everywhere. You know, it's. humiliating. >> After you called the police, was that. also when you got the restraining order? >> Yeah, so that kind of came after because. he kept showing up at my events, following me, making a scene. He kept. calling, he kept showing up, and it's. like. leave me alone. So, you know, after even. eventually my lawyer was like, "Audrina, this is not right. There is enough.

evidence." She's like, "I'm getting you. a restraining order." And I was like, "Well, are you sure that's the right. thing to do? That's going to go public. now." And like, it was constantly like I. had to stop caring about the public and. what people thought and just do things. for me and what was good for me and my. daughter. >> Sometimes those extreme measures are. imperative at that point because. how much farther would it go if you. didn't, you know? >> Yeah. So, in my mind that's where I knew. this is it. It's time. And I was so.

depleted energetically, emotionally, physically, spiritually. I was I mean, everyone around me knew that something I. was just I lost so much weight. I was. isolated. I wasn't myself, and I was. trying to get back out there and smile. and like. but it just I it wasn't there. So, I. just knew like it's time. >> You wrote a lot about how the. mental abuse affected how you viewed.

yourself. You wrote, "When you're told. you're a piece of [ __ ] every day, you. begin to believe it. It becomes your. reality. You stop fighting back and. slowly start to die inside.". How did you. get the strength to leave when you feel. so depleted like that? >> I got the strength through going to. church. >> Wow. >> to God. I literally me and Kiera would. go every Sunday. I got into a a small. group. I had support. I had a support. system and guidance, and I would cry all.

the time and like. I finally built up that courage and just. kept praying. And I was like, "Is this. the right thing to do? Divorce doesn't, you know, at the time it didn't run in. our family. Like you married, you you. like hash it out till the end. You make. things work. So, it was really that decision was. really, really hard for me to do, but. going to church and just having faith. and. doing what was right for my daughter. Like that's that's what helped me.

through it. And I I think that was the. best decision I've made. So, I I'm in. such a happy I mean. I'm in such a good place now. I'm happy, my daughter's happy, you know, she. you know, she has the best of both. worlds and she's with all of her family. and her school and like I. I'm just I'm healed enough where I'm. open to dating now. >> Since your divorce, have you been able. to.

try to find healthier relationships and. are there things you're immediately. looking for and having boundaries now? >> maybe a little. too hard of boundaries. >> Audrina, no such thing. Okay, I love. this for you. >> My friends are like Audrina, your. standards are up to here. Like, you. know, it's like I love to flirt and. whatever, but no, I it's like I'm not. dating for me anymore. And it's my. daughter, too. So, it's whoever I date. next is has to be the real deal. It's.

not just I'm not just going to bring. them into my life to meet my family or. my friends or it'll be someone that no. one will really know I'm with until it's. solid and it's good. And then people. will be like, oh, wow. That's that's where I'm at right now. >> I love that for you so much and you. deserve that. What do you wish people. understood. about what it's like to be inside of an. abusive relationship? >> Um it doesn't have to just it's not.

Sometimes when people say abusive. relationships, they think physical, but. abusive relationships aren't always. physical. It's emotional. It's being. called a piece of [ __ ] It's. you know, being put down all the time. Internally, it takes a long time to. recover from that and to get your. confidence back and. to feel like you're you again or. like you are lovable. Like someone will. love you again. Like don't believe that. you're never going to be loved again or.

you're not good enough. Like you are. So, it's just, you know, it could be a spiritually, physically, emotionally, any kind of abuse. It's. just that word doesn't necessarily mean. physical. >> Yeah. >> Um. and it's, you know, toxic relationships. Like it's not right. You got to get out. of it. You need support. Like get. yourself out. And it's not easy. Once. you're in it, it's like it's like you're. you're swimming and you're trying to. keep your head above water and you're. barely breathing and.

you need someone sometimes to come and. pull you out. You can't do it on your. own. >> Audrina, thank you so much for coming on. I like. I your book truly like I felt like it. was such a journey to read and there. were so many fun moments, so many. intense moments and it all really came. together and I feel like I'm excited to. just see what you do next because we've. watched you for so freaking long and I'm. like sad that I'm not going to be able. to see you on TV, but you have a podcast. now. >> Yes, the podcast with Brody and Frankie. It's a Hills rewatch, but we talk about.

other things too. It's not just The. Hills. So, >> Is it fun for Do you think it's like a. fun thing to rewatch or do you think. you're like. >> No, I. Okay, can I be honest? It is so cringey. for me to watch. I cannot watch it. without having like a glass of wine. >> You're like I didn't say that. >> It's like what was I thinking? Like And. then I think, okay, this is great. Like. one day when my daughter's old enough, I'll watch it with her and be like, this. is what you're not doing and this is. what will happen if you do what I did. >> I truly don't know a world without The.

Hills. You guys basically like created. reality television in the sense and it's. it's going to be sad for it to be gone, but I'm excited for the podcast. >> Maybe when we're like old people again, like give it another. 20 years, we'll be like 50, 60, ready to. do it again. I don't know. >> Let me be so clear, I would watch. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Audrina. >> Thank you so much. That means a lot. >> Thank you. >> Thanks.