An Abortion Story (Full Episode)
I'm currently on my way to a preferred. women's health center. where women in Charlotte, North Carolina. get abortions. It's a Saturday, so the clinic is. probably going to be pretty busy. Saturday also is probably when a lot of. protesters will be here.
If there's one episode of Call Her Daddy. that people should watch and listen to, it's this one. 50 years worth of women's rights in. America overturned instant ended a. woman's constitutional right to an. abortion. Turning row puts every single. one of us in danger.
has done nothing wrong to deserve this. death sentence today. Deserve an end in. the trash can. Did you choose life? Did you choose life? Not with the. clinic. There's an ultrasound down. there. Just go park there. Okay. Go. ahead. Go down there to the ultrasound.
Keep driving. We're good. Keep driving. inside that building. You are not going. to find hope. You're not going to find. help. You're not going to find joy or. peace or any of those things inside that. building. Cuz none of those things can. come from the murder of your innocent. You don't have to go in there today. Don't follow the path of the wicked that. are driving you that are bringing you. into this building lying to you about.
the humanity of your child leading you. like sheep into the Hi there. I'm a. volunteer with the planet. Ma'am, no matter what your. baby's heart is beating, that baby is. precious. The sixth commandment God says, "Thou. shalt not murder.". Call Her Daddy is brought to you by. T-Mobile. Daddy gang, it is time to. start getting treated like the main.
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main character you were always meant to. be. Be the main character at. t-mobile.com/. benefits. I want to start off by having. you introduce yourself. I'm Hala Hills. I'm the executive director of a. preferred woman's health center. Uh, and. I this is my ninth year being here. So, your parents started this clinic. Yes. In what ways has your clinic been. impacted by the overturn of Roie Wade? This is easily the most desperate I've. ever seen patients, which is very. frustrating. However, like we do focus.
on the fact that we are still helping. patients live their best lives cuz like. as an outsider just coming in and seeing. the protesters immediately I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] this is hell and this is. like an easy day. Once you get here and you're driving to. the clinic, you're driving past these. folks who are calling themselves. pregnancy counselors, but they're not with the clinic and. they're specifically trying to stop. patients to explain to them why they.
shouldn't have an abortion or what they. can do instead. You're seeing these patients and their. companions come in and you start hearing. people yelling at you and being like, "You're a murderer. You're a [ __ ] Mama, don't kill your baby.". They're so loud that you can hear it. through the doors and through the walls. And it is traumatizing. One of the worst and most uncomfortable. feelings to have is when a patient comes.
in and like is so distraught and so. upset and you know you ask them what's. wrong and they're like am I going to. die? I'm like honey why did you come in. if you thought you were going to die? And she was like, "Well, I can't have. this baby, but the guy outside tells me. that like people die here all the time.". And I'm like, "The fact that you felt like you were. submitting yourself to what you thought. could be certain death is just so. heartbreaking.". Well, now that abortion laws can be. determined by each state, conservative. America is tightening its grip. So, we.
knew that the United States Supreme. Court was going to overturn Roie Wade. [ __ ] And I mean this with all. disrespect in my heart. You 26 states. will ban abortion. You're talking about. 36 million women of reproductive age. I'm a 15year-old girl and my rights are. being threatened. And I came here. because I'm hoping to not allow these. government officials who think they have. control over my body to do what they're. doing and take us back 50 years of.
fighting. The day that the ruling came down, I had. to immediately call up my staff and tell. them to stop seeing patients because in. Alabama, we had a law that said that all. abortion was illegal and anyone who was. involved could be put in jail. I'm Robin Marty. I am operations. director for West Alabama Women's. Center. And until a few months ago, it. provided about half of the abortions in. the state of Alabama. Now, it just does. reproductive health care. As we sit here.
today, how many states have made. abortion illegal? At this point, we have. 14 states where there's no longer legal. abortion. Now that Roie Wade has been. overturned, all of the states get to. decide individually whether or not there. will be legal abortion, and they don't. have to have it legal in their state at. all. A lot of times people think, okay, that means I have to go to the next. state over in order to get an abortion. Where I'm from in the south, in the Gulf. Coast, there's no legal abortion. anywhere. So, is that when people are.
referring to like an abortion desert? Yeah. An abortion desert means that you. have hundreds of miles that you have to. go through in order to be able to access. a legal clinic. We won't go back. We. won't go back. We won't go back. We. won't go back. We won't go back. There. have been bills in a number of states to. ban common forms of birth control, not. abortion, birth control. I think every. woman in America needs to know this. Should women be nervous and worried that.
birth control and plan B could. potentially become illegal? Oh god, yes. I'm so terrified of it. Um, specifically. in Alabama, we think the next. legislative session that emergency. contraception is going to be banned. And. we think this because right after the. right after the decision, there was a. reporter who went through and asked all. of the representatives whether they. would consider banning emergency. contraception next. And the worst part.
was most of them responded, "I don't. really know what that is, but yeah, we're gonna that sounds like a good. thing to ban. I don't know how it works, but yeah, we should ban it because. that's what we're at. I don't know how. it works, but yes, let's get rid of it. Your baby's heart started beating in. your womb just below your own heart. That child is If you can't name five. parts of a woman's reproductive system, you don't deserve an opinion on women's.
reproductive healthcare. You're not pro-life. You're pro forced. birth. Women are not your incubators. Your religion. does not have a place in my doctor's. office. I drove up to the clinic while this. protest was going on and I I was. shaking. It's [ __ ] terrifying. There's so much shame. As I was driving, a man just started screaming, "Murderer! Murderer!" And a woman shoved her face.
at my car window. And it's like, "Did. you choose life? Did you choose life? Did you choose life?" There's an. ultrasound down there. just go park. there. Okay. The shame that they're. trying to inflict on these women, the. confusion also of like how they make you. feel, it's so overwhelming and it's I. can't I cannot even imagine waking up in. the morning to get an abortion and to. have to [ __ ] deal with this [ __ ]. It is it's insane.
I am Christy Kelly. My regular job is. I'm a corporate accountant. Um, and I. have been volunteering in like some. sphere of reproductive justice for off. and on 20 odd years. Your job is escort. and defender. Okay. So, can you describe. what those jobs do? Sure. So, escort's. job is to, you know, once the patient's. in the parking lot, you get them from. their vehicle into the clinic door. And. the whole point is just to shield them. as much as possible, you know, to.
maintain their privacy and dignity and. to try to shield them from, you know, a. lot of the rhetoric and really nasty. things. Do the protesters ever provide. misinformation to the patients? A better. question would be, do they ever not. provide misinformation? They try to say. things that are not true, like if you go. in there, you will die. An abortion is. not safe, but abortion is incredibly. safe. It is safer. Have you ever had a. root canal or gotten your wisdom teeth. out? You were in way more danger. It's. all scare tactics mostly. Yeah. And.
shame. Yeah. Shame and fear is the. easiest thing to learn about like the. anti-choice stuff and all of that. It's. not about babies. It's never ever ever. been about babies. It's about control. We are having a conference here. conference and I'm trying to enlighten. these nice folks. of their slavery to sin and their need. to repent of their Jesus. I'm free. I'm. concerned about I'm concerned about. yours as well. Why do you think my soul. is in jeopardy? Because you're. supporting the murder of children.
You're in rebellion to God because. children are being murdered inside of. there. What if I don't believe in God? How can I be in rebellion? I mean, you. can stand on a on a interstate and say, "I don't believe in Mac trucks with one. coming at you at 70 mph." So, you are. equating God with a Mac truck and you. need to bow before me when you address. me. Oh, I will never bow because I. identify as royalty. I've always felt royal ever since I was. born. Well, of course you felt royal. You're a white man. Do you believe in. equality of women and men? Um, I believe.
in equality of value. Yes. I don't. believe in equality of function. Like. literally, men and women have different. functions with their with their bodies, with the way their bodies operate. What. is your goal when you show up to this. place? My goal is to try to persuade. people not to take the innocent lives of. their children and offer them. alternatives. Somehow a man's issue. I. do think abortion is a man's issue. Yes. Why is that? Men didn't take advantage. of women and have sex with them outside. of marriage, then this wouldn't be a. thing. Do you think that it would be. helpful if men all at a young age got.
vasectomies and then when they were. ready to financially be able to support. a child, then they get it reversed? Are. you suggesting that the government. institute that as a as a government. program? At this point, we're regulating. the uteruses. We could also regulate the. penises, right? I mean, if we're forced. to have the kids, you believe that? I'm. just asking you. Would do you think that. would help? Um, I don't know. I don't. think it would be helpful for society.
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availability varies by region. See app. for details. I'm Shannon. I am the executive director. of Charlotte for Choice, which is a. nonprofit that helps defend and escort. patients coming into the clinic. What do. you make of the term prolife? I don't use it because these folks are. pro-life would be taking care of the, you know, children that are born, working with houseless population,
helping others. They don't. They also. believe that, you know, help yourself. We'll give you up everything you need up. to two years of life. That's what the. anti tell the patients. We will give you. a lavish baby shower for everything you. need up to two years of life. There's. there's a little bit more involved. So, let's talk about this RV because this is. this is crazy. This is evil and you know. you know in your heart that this is a. murder of your child. What is happening. in this RV? What is the purpose of the. RV? You can have a free ultrasound and.
see your precious baby. They allegedly. have an ultrasound. They say they have a. nurse that gives you ultrasound. They. try to get patients to come on the RV. Young women, we have real help for you. today. We perhaps they give ultrasounds, but while they're doing that, they're. trying to convince them as to why they. need to continue the pregnancy. Please. do not do this today. They also use this. opportunity to hopefully get the. patients to not make their appointment,
miss their appointment time. I can't. actually remember a time where an. ultrasound from that bus was accurate. I've had folks come in say, "Well, they. said they couldn't see anything, like I. was too early to be seen, or you tell. them they're too far along to be seen to. begin with." Like, there's there's real. manipulation here that really works to. keep a patient from getting services. Keep driving. Keep driving. Keep. driving. We don't take money for what we. do. They don't want you to have any. other choices but death. But we have. many choices. Help for housing, food, a.
big baby shower for your child that. covers close to 2 years of the baby's. life. If you're going to tell someone, "We have resources for you." Be honest. about what those resources are. If you. take resources from them, they make them. sign this like really elaborate. contract. You have to give them access. to going to medical appointments, to. posting your image and your potentially. future child's image on social media. They get to use you as a bargaining. success story. That's pretty gross. That's really, really exploitative. And.
there's a huge element of, you know, white saviorism to it, too, that is. extra gross. It does feel very. manipulative, right? Cuz they're going. to say, "We have resources. We can do. this, this, this, this, and this for. you." They don't. We've looked at those. pamphlets. They're the number to the. local social services. It's how to apply. for Medicaid, how to apply for food. stamps. How is that helping someone. inside that building? You are not going. to find help. We hear the religious. rights say that it's okay to do those. kind of lies because it's for a good. cause. It's for God. God's word says the.
sixth commandment, God says, "Thou shalt. not murder." And it just terrifies me. because when you feel that every person. who is for bodily autonomy is evil. They. don't believe the lies and deception of. this world. The wicked people. Everything's justified. [Music]. They believe that they are fighting the. spiritual battle and we are the devil.
Blessed art thou among women and blessed. is the fruit of thy wesoly. Mary mother of God pray for us s I don't. care how many of y'all come out here I. don't care how many times you come out. here people are going to get abortion. abortion is still legal in North. Carolina we are still free you uphold. white supremacy.
you uphold. the legacy of slavery, forced child. birth. How does religion play a part in the. fight for women to have access to this. type of healthcare? Power now. God, heaven, come down. Well, their religion. doesn't like women. When you look at all of the language in. the decision that overturned Joie Wade, it's all hearkening back to the 15 and. 1600s when women were possessions that.
were traded for cows and used to make. alliances, but they weren't people. They. didn't have any control over their. lives. And that's what they like. They. like the idea of women as possessions. They like the idea of women as something. that they can move around and bend. around and will do whatever it is that. they want. And what better way to do. that than to have her exhausted and. constantly pregnant. Being able to. control your own body gives you. independence. And that's not something. that they enjoy. That's not something.
they like. And apparently it's not. something that is part of their. Christianity. My name is Kristen Smith. My name is Ra. My name is Nick. I'm a non-binary. person. My name is Jack. My pronouns are. they them. My name is Victoria Rael and. I had an abortion. I had an abortion. I. had an abortion when I was 20 years old. I found out I was pregnant when I was in. my early 20s. And I had an abortion in. Texas in 2017. The condom broke. I went and got a plan. B. That did not help. And when I found. myself in that position, you know, the.
partner I had at the time, we had a. really tumultuous and complicated. relationship that was not healthy. I was. unemployed. I was just in a period of a. lot of instability. I was living with a. bunch of roommates. It was like the. worst time to find out I was pregnant. I. got pregnant just after my 40th. birthday. Like many people who have. abortions. I was already a mom at the. time. I have three kids and last year in.
May, I found out that we were pregnant. with our fourth. It was unexpected, but. we quickly got excited. uh we found out. it was a boy and we named him Case. Everything was perfect. Um up until my. 20we ultrasound, I knew from the moment. that I saw the positive pregnancy test. that I did not want to continue the. pregnancy. I felt my heart sink to like. the bottom of my stomach and I I. remember I was just crying crying.
because I was afraid. I knew in my soul. that I couldn't watch case be born to. struggle to breathe, to go through any. type of pain, to just lay there and. watch him die. I just I couldn't imagine. it. So, um, I scheduled I called the the. clinic in DC and I scheduled an. appointment. For me, it was not a hard. decision to have an abortion. I was. already struggling to balance work and. being a parent. I felt like my kids.
deserved 100% of my attention. I did. have to face protesters on that day and. it made it really hard. You know, it. honestly. was just really humiliating to have to. listen to people scream about me and, you know, tell me I'm a bad person for. making a medical decision that has. nothing to do with them. Having an abortion is probably one of. the best things that's ever happened to.
me. Having that access is one of the. best things that has ever happened to. me. It gave me freedom. It gave me a. life. I absolutely would not have been. able to carry that to term. There is no. way I would have survived that. I would. have made sure I didn't survive that. I. do think about that pregnancy and think. about what my life would have been like. if I had added another child to our. family at that point. And I'm very glad. I made that decision. I felt so relieved.
that I could finally move on with my. life. I could finally heal. I wanted to. graduate. I wanted to study abroad. I wanted to do so many things. And. because of my abortion, I'm now figuring. those things out. And it changed my life. for the better. Having the right to an. abortion, having my abortion, it saved. my life. It allowed me to become a. parent when I was good and ready over a. full decade later. It meant that I could. grow my family on my own terms according.
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birth during CO and after I gave birth I. had complications, my daughter had. complications and that information got. out somehow. Um, and that led to a lot. of protesters being like, "This is this. is punishment. Your your daughter's. going to die. Like, this is going to be. punishment for all those babies you. killed. This is your karma. This is your. retribution." I used to take it really. personally. I don't as much anymore. Um, just because of the fact that.
if you did, if you took it personally, like it would eat you alive. And I feel. like that's what they want though. I. They want to eat you alive. They want. you to quit. They want you to just make. their lives easier. You have been. personally attacked because of the work. you do. Mhm. Do you mind sharing what. happened to you in Raleigh? Um, so when I was still in Raleigh, um, I. had just gotten out of grad school and. moved back down. And like most people.
who are new to an area, you you know, you make friends, you you go on dates. and things like that. And I. unfortunately went on a date with. someone who I thought was normal and. wasn't. Um, uh, turned out to be a. protester who knew me and knew my family. and knew what I did and had a lot of. feelings about it and in turn took that. out on me. Um, and I was attacked and. assaulted.
[Music]. [Music]. I know her tells. She needs a second. Oh, no.
She's seen me do this way too many. times. I'm sad because I don't think people. understand. It's very hard. It's hard to be an open. book. It's. difficult to live life really publicly. and it's it's difficult when you know. that there are people that want to cause. you harm and Kala is so unbelievably. brave and she just keeps coming back and. she does it over and over and over.
again. You good? Mhm. Obviously, you're still working in this. field. It's very close to you and your. family, but to have something happen to. you like that, like how did you move on? There's a certain level that you don't. move on. Um, I will say that it still. comes up. It catches me off guard when. it still comes up, but obviously I was.
caught off guard in this conversation. because you lock it, you just lock it. down and you keep moving. It's like that. is a thing. It happened. and I have to. now see patients who are in that exact. situation too. So if I can use that to. help them and understand them, one of. the things that I do try to be kind of. open about is and like I keep like Robin. said like I keep coming back and I keep. being this open book is because. quite honestly people need that and they. need to know that they can talk about. it. Don't murder an innocent child.
You're not going to be able to escape. death. [Music]. [Laughter]. [Applause]. the true love of Jesus Christ. These. people, they don't know love. They. spread hate. They take his name in vain. and spread a message of hate and disgust. and vile. Scared little man.
Terrified little men. There's a time. when women are not free. When women are. not free, no one is free. No, we are out. here because men have decided that they. have sovereign power over our bodies, our voices. They're not pro-life. They're pro- hypocrisy, pro birth, and. pro control. All they really care about. is controlling and suppressing women. We. need to let them know that this is our.
body, and we do what the [ __ ] we want to. do with our body. This is not exclusively a healthcare. issue. It has become it is political and. in order to have autonomy over my own. body, I need to get out there and vote. It's like why do I have to vote to have. control over my own body? How are we not progressed enough as a. society where women have equal rights to. men? That's a fabulous question. How long is.
your podcast? Um, I mean, everything's. about inequality, but also it's not just. about women not being equal to men. It's. about white patriarchal men who are. terrified of the idea of losing power. because when they grew up, they've. always been the ones in charge. They've. always been the ones likely to be. running the board meetings. They're the. ones that get called on the most in. class. They've always been in charge. So. much of it is about control. And that. does take you back to the patriarchy. If. you are not assigned male at birth, you.
have less power in this country. You. just do. At some point, we're going to. get to a place where people are going to. have to challenge laws. And you. challenge laws by breaking them. It's. something that quite frankly I'm doing. at this moment by saying it on a camera. because I could get charged with. conspiracy in my home state of Alabama. But everybody should have access to an. abortion. Everybody can get access to an. abortion. And they can do that by. accessing pills online. Every person can. do that regardless of their state by.
going to aac.org, ordering pills, and having them. Interesting the concept of breaking. laws. And let's see, because if every. single woman in America, if we all join. together and we decide, no, we're. actually we do deserve abortions. It's. my [ __ ] body. I'm going to do. whatever the hell I want. There was this amazing protest where 100. women got together and took medication. abortion out in the middle of the public. square. Um, two of them were actually.
doing actual pills. The rest of them. were taking Tylenol or something. Nobody. knew who was who and what was what. No. one was arrested. That's the kind of. [ __ ] we need to be doing. What will. happen when the government in Alabama. sees this? That's an excellent question. and it's one that I'm ready for. At some. point, you have to decide what you're. willing to do in order to make change. I don't think a lot of people understand. what's going on, which is essentially a. war against women and our bodies. Coming.
here has opened my eyes and I feel so. grateful because there's never been a. greater moment that Daddy Gang can. actually affect what's going on in the. world. Like, we genuinely can make a. difference and change. And I hope this. episode shows like this is us. This we. are the women that could potentially. also be going through this one day. And. so if we don't fight for ourselves, who. the [ __ ] is going to? [Music].
What would be your rally cry to people. in America that are listening to this in. their dorm rooms, at home, in their. apartments, wherever they are listening? What would you say to them? First off is. fight. When you fight, you start. building strength. When you start. getting up, when you start getting. momentum, when you start moving, you're. getting ready to battle. And that's some. that is I I hate to use that. terminology, but that's that's what's. going on. This is a very much a battle.
I know it's a broken system and that. voting is such a hard thing in this. country and so complicated, but it's a. broken system we have and to ignore it. just means downfall faster. The idea of. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. You just scorned a whole [ __ ] nation. of women and they are coming for you. Like that is the thing that gets me. through every day is the thought of the. reckoning. I call it the reckoning in my. head because of course I do and it's. going to be amazing and I can't wait to.
watch it. And your audience is who is. going to change everything because. they're the ones who are going to be the. most impacted by this. They are the. first generation who is going to know. what it's like to grow up without. reproductive rights. That is going to. have to face the idea that there are a. bunch of men in power that think that. they deserve less. That they don't. deserve to have control over their. bodies, that they don't deserve to have.
sex just for pleasure. Like what what. good is the world without sex for. pleasure? And they're going to fight for. it. [Music].
