Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Allie and AJ, welcome to Call Her Daddy. >> Thanks for having us. >> You guys, the last time we saw each. other was we were hanging out backstage. at my tour, and you were the loveliest. people, and I always have these moments. because I'm like, I watched you guys. growing up. Obviously, I love you guys, your music, all of it. But meeting you. guys in person was so fun to be like,

"Oh my god, you guys are like normal. girls, and we're all just hanging out.". So, I'm so happy we're finally doing. this. >> Same. Same. So happy to be here. >> So happy to be here. Okay, if you guys. are not like touring, if you're not. working, if you don't have all the chaos. of your life, what is your most fun. thing that you guys usually like to do. together? >> We're big like spa people, and we kind. of have been since we were young. Like, we were like hanging out in a spa at. like. 10 and 12, and we were just loving it. And our parents would be like, I I don't. know, they just like love hot dry saunas.

and getting massages. >> Oh, I love this for you guys. >> Spa So, spa. Spa. Yeah. You're going to. the spa. If you have a day off, you're. going to the spa together. >> That's our number one. That's our number. one. >> That or like I mean, literally, it's. like a movie, like just on AJ's couch, just like. ordering in. >> Yeah. How like often do you guys hang. out? >> All the time. >> Yeah, all the time. >> Like every day? >> Well, no, because now that she's a mom, uh-huh. So, now that she's a mom, it's. not every day, and also, we don't live. down the street from each other anymore. >> used to live I'm not even kidding you.

Like, me in my car driving to AJ's 4. minutes. I could walk to her house in. like 20. >> Wait, how far now? >> Now, I'm like an hour and a half. >> What? >> Yeah, I know. >> What happened? >> Well, I had a kid, yeah. Well, really, we moved for like to be. closer to my mom. My mom lives out in. Santa Ynez, so we were like, "Okay, if. we're closer to her, that will help. with, you know, just like child care or. whatever." And then, having more space. cuz the house that we live in in that we.

lived in in the canyon that we ended up. renting out is like a super cool pad, but it's more like it's for a couple. It's not really for a kid. So, we we. ended up renting a place that just had. more space. Like. >> So, we kind of were just like, "We'll. see." But, it's only an hour and a half. Like, it's not that far. >> weekend. >> Yeah. But, would you ever move? >> I love Santa Barbara. >> Okay, you're happy in Santa Barbara. >> I'd move there in a second. >> Okay, okay, okay. >> I really would. I'm not ready yet. I. really love where I am, but I think down. the road I would. I absolutely would.

And I think it's a beautiful place to. raise a son. >> Do you guys play the typical like older. younger sister roles? Do you feel like, or is there anything that you're like, "I don't act like a younger sister and. older sister in this way?". >> they were swapped when we were younger. >> Oh, really? >> much kind of younger sister, and she was. like older sister so yeah. >> And then it switched. >> Why? >> We always joke how when I was young, I. was very shy, and. >> Really shy. >> and I would have her just kind of You. were like my translator. >> Yes. She would like nudge me. It's like, and I'd be like, "She wants a turkey sub. with um cheese and ex- no mustard.

>> No mustard. >> You know, whatever. And it was like. >> She knew. She like knew. It was very. strange. >> Oh my god. You got out of that though. >> I got out of it. And then and then I. think it swapped to being like, "Okay, now I guess I'm the older sister.". >> for me, but yeah. >> No, no. You're like, "Girl, you never. did.". >> Never. But, I think what's interesting. is like obviously you guys then like at. a pretty young age got into the. spotlight. So, like you don't think that. a kid would be shy that then gets into. like this industry. When Disney entered. the conversation, were your parents at. all like, "This is like too much." Did.

they ever try to talk you guys out of. it? >> No, at that point we were fully in. Like, SAG card in hand doing. commercials. >> you. Not me. Cuz I got my SAG card at like. >> of the Future. >> Yeah, yeah. So, like I didn't even have. Like I I mean, I knew the basics of like. this is a mark and stuff, but I learned. like everything on that set. >> Oh my god, wait. Your first gig was Phil. of the Future? I forget. >> Yeah, that's how I got my SAG card. >> Yeah, that's like kind of the Wait, what? >> Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. >> When you guys, like I obviously was. thinking before I like sat down with.

you, I'm like, when you look back at. that era, you think about like you think. about you guys, you think about Demi, you think about Miley, you think about. Selena, you think about the Jonas. Brothers. Like when you were in the era. that you were in because it shaped so. much of our childhood, I feel like. did you guys realize it was that iconic. in the moment or did it literally just. feel like work? >> I think once Cowbells hit, we knew. >> Yeah, and I feel like. when the music started happening on the. channel and that was happening. simultaneously with Phil, I think that's.

when we were like, oh, this is really. like clicking with people. And I do. remember going to I I don't know, I. think. were we with Hollywood Records at the. time? I don't know. I don't think so. >> Weren't they signed on season two of the. show? >> season two, but I think season one of. Phil of the Future had been out. So, no, we weren't signed yet with Hollywood. But for whatever reason we were invited. to Hilary Duff's concert at I think the. Forum or something. And I think you were. with me and like I got mobbed at this. concert and I was like. >> Cuz season one had aired and you were.

>> It was weird. It was like the first real. time I remember being like, oh, like. people know me from this show. And then. it was just, you know, after that it was. still very we had a very normal life, but I just remember being like, oh, people are stopping me because of this. TV show. >> Oh my god, a Hilary Duff concert, like. take me back. Oh my god. >> Cuz I was going to ask like how your. life changed with Phil of the Future cuz. I feel like that was a very, very, very. big moment and I feel like some shows. popped, some shows didn't. That one I. like feel like I watched every freaking.

episode and it was so good. >> Thank you. I it did pop, but like we only did two. seasons, which people kind of forget. >> Yes, that's it. >> That's it. I know it's a travesty. And. then it got canceled. >> Wait, but how many episodes were in a. season? >> 22, I think. >> Okay, that's also so different. Like. these days it's like six episodes and. like. yeah. >> but 20. >> That's still a lot of episodes. >> Wait, yeah, so it was only two. >> Daddy gang, we have a lot to unpack, okay? There's Survivor, The Boys, Euphoria, and I have been on.

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that I'm like a businesswoman and. obviously like you guys can share what. you want, but I was thinking about you. guys and I'm like you were so young and. you guys looked like you were at the top. of the world, but like when you look. back financially, did you feel like as. kids you were compensated correctly? I. don't know if that's like a fair thing. to say. >> Um I don't think we would have known. anything to compare it to. >> Yeah, I don't think. >> it's crazy when you have a job that. young. >> Of course. >> And and in a strange way like any money. that you're making.

>> Of course seems like great. But like I. made like $7,000. >> Yeah, that's not good. That ain't. nothing. >> Like Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah, that is interesting. Like cuz when. >> I mean I don't know what that would. equate to today, but like. >> True. Right? But I guess for a kid show. you're kind of like that's great. That. could go into their college fund. Like. >> And how did you guys handle it with your. parents? Cuz obviously I remember we. were standing in the hallway of my tour. and I looked at you guys and I was like. how did you guys just stay so normal and. you guys are like so lovely. I feel like. you guys are like my girlfriends from. back home and the unfortunate side of.

the industry I feel like we've all seen. is like so many of these kids whether it. was like the parents were abusing the. power and taking his money, the parents. were forcing the. >> We saw it all the time. >> The parents didn't help the kids, so. they were just kind of by themselves on. set. >> They're just like dropped off and left. with the teacher. Yeah. >> What attributed to you guys staying so. grounded throughout this whole process? >> Well, I can tell you we weren't the boss. of our household, that's for sure. Like. just cuz we were working did not put us. at the top. Like we were the kids. >> Yeah. >> Um and then second, like our parents.

were very. very clear about like yeah, you can go. to this event, you can promote this. project, but like you're not going to go. to like some late after-party with a. bunch of adults when you guys are. underage. Like I just feel like when. you're younger, you can kind of get away. if you're in the industry but just. rolling into every situation. >> Yes. >> And you're like a little mini adult even. though you really shouldn't be. >> It's not really the time and place for. that time in your life. Like you just. shouldn't be at those kind of things at. that age. Like a. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, I think. >> Like our parents were very They were.

pretty strict. >> And and like our mom was on set with us. Like. if she needed to be somewhere for you. and I was like on set. she would be gone to like. get you to the audition and then would. be like straight back on set, you know? >> That I feel like that's like the biggest. key that when kids come out now, it's. like there's this like missing element. which was kind of like the parental. figures. >> Yes. >> And like to give the parental. opportunity to people that weren't the. actual parents. >> Totally. >> they are just looking at these kids like.

they're cash cows and really your own. parent hopefully would be the one to be. like, "No, no, no, I need to have some. guidelines for my kids.". >> Right. >> true that you were going to possibly be. Hannah Montana? >> I mean, yeah. I I I mean, it's funny. like. >> She had the offer. >> I had the offer and it was. Phil hadn't ended at that point. It was. like they knew that Phil I think was on. the way out or I told us like. you know, we might not be doing a third. season and and Gary who, you know, was. the head of of the channel, Gary Marsh. at the time. >> and Rich.

>> Um yeah, was like, "This pilot has come. in and we think that you're really. perfect for it. Um, and I just remember. reading it and being like, wait, but I'm. doing music as Ally and this might be. really confusing being Hannah and and. being the character also playing Hannah. Like. >> There would actually be three of you. Three three versions. >> There would be three of you. >> It would be very confusing. >> And I was like, you know, how does AJ. relate to this? And then they they I. mean they literally said, well, then AJ. could play the best friend part. >> Lilly. Lilly.

>> I think, yeah. So they were like, why. don't you have And I was like, but it. feels like it's my show. It's not really. like the Hannah and Lilly show. Um, and. I think at that point, too, I was. probably. like close to being maybe 17 at that. point. Um, which is funny, too, cuz like. we weren't on the channel for that long. Like I I booked Phil at 13 and then by. the time it was over, I was like, you. know, whatever, 16 and a half or. something. So, I was like almost 17, I. think, when. that was offered and I just remember.

thinking like, I've kind of done what I wanted to do. here on the channel. You know what I. mean? In a way. >> cowbells. The music had aired a lot. >> Yeah. >> Channel. >> Cowbells. >> Well, I guess cowbells we were just. starting to like dive into cuz that came. out when we were like 10. >> exactly. Yeah, it did. You're right. You're right. >> I mean, I obviously like uh that was. meant to be for Miley, but that's so. interesting how like those pivotal. moments obviously like everyone was kind. of up for certain roles that like it. would have looked so different with you. guys in that position versus her,

obviously. Um, okay, is it true, AJ, that you had your first kiss with Joe. Jonas? >> Yes, that is true. In a bowling. >> Naomi, bring up all the old stuff. >> I know. I'm like, okay, we got to. >> In a bowling alley. It was so innocent. >> Sweet. A bowling alley? >> It was sweet. >> That's so cute. And did you guys like. date for a long time? >> for a while. I don't um. I mean, for like a young relationship, like over a year is pretty good. >> something like that. >> Oh, that's pretty solid. >> That's a really long time. >> Cuz I feel like I was so curious. Like. all of you guys were on such a different.

shows, but like this was kind of your. high school experience. So like how did. you guys all hang out and like meet on. different shows? Like what was the. social dynamic like? >> We met on tour. So the Jonas Brothers. opened for us and that's when we started. like there was like a spark and I was. like, "Oh, this would be fun." Like we. started dating on that. >> trying to make like something happen. with like me and Kevin and I was like. it's not really vibing and then I mean. bless, but like and then it was like, "No, maybe you can like date the bass. player Greg." And I was like, "No, it's. still not vibing." And I mean like.

again, bless him, too, but. >> Of course. >> just wasn't. I was like, "No.". >> like force that. >> You can't force it. It was like natural. that Joe had a connection. >> It was a natural but we were all. buddies. >> Of course. >> We were and it was a really fun tour. Um. but I think beyond that. so like for me it's like we were. homeschooled our whole lives. We didn't. experience school dances. We didn't But. instead we had tour like at a really. young age. Like to me I wouldn't trade. >> Yeah, I wouldn't trade it. >> any of it cuz I'm like our experiences. on the road were so cool and it's. actually why I love touring as an adult.

cuz I think it was ingrained in me at a. young age that it was a really cool. opportunity to have this moment to. connect with your fans every night on. stage. >> It's not challenging to like go on the. road. >> It's very natural for us. >> Like I think some people dive in as an. adult and they're like, "I don't want to. be on the road." And we're like we love. it. Bring it on. >> Right. It's like it's all we ever know. >> Yeah, it's weird. >> I wouldn't Yeah, there's nothing I would. really trade back. I just wanted to. finish that up. >> That's an amazing answer. Okay, did you. secretly date your Phil of the Future. co-star for 6 years? >> No. >> What? Who said that? >> That's funny. Is this like a thing. online? >> Rumors online that you secretly dated. Phil of the Future co-star for 6 years.

>> Literally can attest. Never even kissed. >> You guys didn't even. >> It was always a friendship. >> No. Although I remember like. >> older than you. >> Well, and in that. that age range felt huge. Like I was 13. and I think he was 16. I think. >> Okay, and that is huge. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I remember during. the test like when I tested for Phil of. the Future and I saw that he was the. other boy that was up for. I was like. he's really cute. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And then of course you meet them and. then you're like oh now we're just. buddies and like there's no chance of. >> became really good friends with his. girlfriend during that show. Like he was. dating her at the time.

>> is true. Yeah. >> Sweet. >> no no no um. >> No. Okay, we're clearing up all the. rumors. >> That is so funny to me. >> Years and years later. Okay, um. obviously we know Disney was like very. strict now that like everyone kind of. like knows the deal. Were you able to experiment at all like. normal teenagers like have your first. drink and like go to parties at all or. no? >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah. >> I feel like we had a healthy like. teenage life. >> Yeah, but like we but we were like not. party girls. Like for whatever that's. worth. I think.

>> lucky having us under. >> Yeah, I mean I mean we should have been. on for like 15 years cuz they would have. been like they're good. We don't need to. be worried about that. >> true. >> Keep going. >> Like yeah, for whatever reason we just. were not like rebellious types, both of. us. And I think maybe part of it was. because we had each other. >> Yeah. >> So it was like we didn't have to act out. and prove ourselves to like. >> nice. Yeah. >> Yeah. No, you're right. I don't even. know what it is. It's like luck, I feel. like. >> Maybe it's just luck. >> But also like Ally and I this sounds. kind of ridiculous, but when we got a. little older but we weren't quite like.

drinking age, people like kind of in LA. started like trusting us as the girls. that would like go into La Due but not. get hammered. >> let them in. They can have a like. >> Like we knew some of the bouncers and. they would just like mark our hand and. they'd be like we trust you come in. So. they were. >> I'm not kidding. They're like they're. fine. >> Like they're never going to be a. liability. >> truly. And we kind of I mean and that. was during the height of all of those. girls. You know we used to see everybody. coming out of the club by ourselves. But. like we were just fine. We were like hi. >> Hi, we'll just be like no problem in the. corner.

>> being like a kiss-ass. It was just like. who we were, which I think is. >> Which I think then made people be like. oh my gosh we're so darling the Michalka. girls like they're just harmless. >> Sweet. >> Yeah, that was pretty funny. >> Everyone knows you guys as Aly and AJ, right? Like everyone it's Aly and AJ. It's Aly and AJ. Have you guys ever. resented. that package deal. concept? >> No, I think we've always. >> duo aspect of it? >> We've never resented that. I think the. only thing that maybe we've been like, "Gosh, I wish we had had like a.

different. band name that wasn't our names.". >> We didn't think it was cool. >> Like as kids we were like, "Why did we. do the Aly & AJ then?" Cuz now it's just. our names. Yeah, and it's very. memorable. >> no, the duo thing didn't bug us. >> Didn't. >> Like when you guys were growing up and. all obviously taking different projects. and if like one was having more success. than the other at a time, like how did. you guys handle that as sisters? Cuz I. have a sister and I don't care what. we're doing. Like we were competitive. You know what I mean? And like we are. always supportive of each other, but I. do feel like naturally there can be.

moments where it's like, "Oh, like. you're getting the better parts or. you're getting the better roles." Or. like, "Did you ever have moments where. you had to like sit down and be like, let's talk this out?". >> the only time where we felt like, "Okay, we're getting. um asked to go out for the same roles. and we feel really strongly that one of. us is really right for this and would. you mind standing down?" Like I think. there were a couple times where we both. got the same audition. >> Sure. Or and but usually one of us would. come to the other and be like, "I'm. really not right for this. You should. just go out for this and I'm just going. to pass.". >> And and the other one wouldn't. Like.

that's happened before where we're like. we've just like said, "Okay, fine. You. go for it." Like By the way, it would. never be between the two. >> be down to the two of us. >> Like our acting is so different. >> So I think our ages, our looks, our. energy, like. >> But we did get asked sometimes to go to. the same audition. >> And I think some of that was just. because of like. I don't know. Some some parts kind of would overlap in. parts where it's like, you know, "20 to. 22 to 25." And we're like, "Well, we're. >> Yeah. But there was never a role. specifically where I was like, "Wow, I. really wish that had been me." And like. kind of bummed him us out. Like never.

Like for me it was like I thought it was. so cool that she was like in Easy A and. Hellcats and like she's done great work. and it always felt like it should be. Aly. You know what I mean? >> that's such a And I always wanted to be. her over anyone else. So if I'm not. going to book it. >> Right. I'd rather them be a family. member No, that's actually like a. healthy way to look at it cuz anyone. that has a sister, I'm like, I want my. sister to win always. And I think. there's you're right. There's like a. natural also like aside from. competitiveness, you're also very. protective of your sibling being like, I.

want her to do the best, but I also. think it's very like healthy that you. guys are able to have that because I'm. not in the same industry as my sister. Like I can't imagine at some capacity. you guys are intertwined and there is a. slight competition in light moments that. but that's kind of healthy that you guys. are like, we didn't feel it that much. >> No. >> No. And like if anything where it was I. mean, I guess you could call it. competitive, it would be like if we. liked the same guy. >> Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. >> Yeah, that would Yeah, that would happen. every now and every once in a while. >> You guys had the same taste growing up? >> Similar. >> Right? >> Yeah, similar. I would say, yeah. Our.

tastes were very similar. Yeah. >> Look at you guys adjusting now. You're. like, what? >> I know. I know. [laughter]. >> Adjusting. >> But wait, stop. So, you guys at one. point would like have a crush and how. would you handle it? >> Well, neither of us would get that guy. >> Yeah. It would just be like, yeah, neither of us would. >> We both would be like. we both liked him and both of us failed. >> Or like I remember this is funny that. you asked us. We were making a record in New York, one. that never ended up coming out, and um. >> We have 10 of those. >> Yeah. No, just one. >> But you're like, one day maybe they'll. come out. >> one. Yeah, two. Um and we were we were.

feeling very cool that we were like, you. know, living in New York for like a. month, no parents, you know, I don't. know. At this point we were like 20. one and 22 and 20, right? Um and every. night we were really obsessed with. wanting to go out to all of these. restaurants in New York. We're like. sometimes it didn't even make sense. where it's like, girl, that's way on the. other side of town. >> 30-minute drive from Los Angeles and you. don't know [ __ ]. >> Love. >> So, we would be like, okay, we're going. to catch or whatever. And we went to. this one restaurant called Laurel. I. don't know why I remember that or if.

it's still around. Um and there was a. cute guy that was our waiter and I left. my number for him on the bill. And I. told AJ and she was like. >> I was pissed. >> And she was like she was like she was. like. >> I was like he was cute and she's like I. know I left my number and I was like. what? Like you mean I could have and I. didn't. >> and almost like you're judging me that I. had done that, you know, and like put my. like put my neck out. So dumb. But. obviously this guy never texted. Rude. >> So he never called. >> So right? >> So she's like I don't need to be. competitive cuz I don't need to be. either. >> We I'm upset And did you guys ever ever.

ever hook up with the same person at any. point in your lives? >> Like overlap of like years later you met. up with someone. >> Like same kiss or. >> Yeah. >> No. >> No. >> No, there's been a couple like. >> close calls. >> Yeah, where it was like I liked that guy. kind of and then it was like oh, no, like AJ and him are kind of dating and. then it would be like over after six. months. >> was a moment where I like tested for. something and the leading guy I thought. was really cool and then Ali actually. ended up dating him later. >> Yeah. >> But I didn't But it wasn't like a I was. also with him. >> No. No. There's never been an actual.

crossover. Thank god. I mean that would. be kind of weird. We we're so enmeshed. in each other's lives. >> I know. It's like you're literally like. one in that concept. Like when I talk. about cuz my sister's four years older. than me and we've never dated the same. guy. But even you talk about it. incessantly with each other like when. you start dating someone obviously. So. it's like I couldn't go to her if I knew. that she liked the guy that I was. >> Right. And she knows all the inside. I experienced. >> And it's different with a friend cuz. with with a family member I would be. like Katherine, you need to get over it. cuz I need to tell you everything. She'd.

be like okay, he was cute but now I'm. over it. Okay, go tell me everything. >> You did She did one time help like. literally held my hand while I broke up. with the guy over the phone. I'm not. kidding you. She was like Uh do you. remember that? It was in Calabasas. You. were like. >> You can do it. >> And I'm like on the phone with him being. like I really don't This isn't right. Like I And I'm like. >> And I'm like you got it. >> No, that is like literally [laughter]. >> That's also so I mean that just brought. me back to that bedroom. Isn't that. funny? >> Calabasas. >> Calabasas, yeah. >> No, we were We were Calabasas kids. I. know. >> Before it was cool.

>> Way before it was cool. >> Love that for you guys. >> One was a Johnny Rockets, you know what. I mean? Like we're that far back. >> I love that for you. We Breaking up with. someone is the worst feeling. I'm like. it's sickening. >> It's so hard. >> It's actually sickening. But that's why. I like people whenever I'm like it's. there's nothing better than having a. sister and it's I feel for my friends. that are like I never had a sister. I. don't know what it's like. It's like. it's a friendship on steroids. It's like. you are literally going to kill for her. >> And it's different than a brother. relationship. >> It's actually almost a diss to call it a. friendship. It's like no, this is living.

on another. >> Yeah, yeah. That's a great point. >> It's like an extension of yourself. >> Yes, yes. >> It's so funny hearing you guys talk. about your dynamic together and. obviously so much of what you're writing. also goes into like love and your life. and your family and but potential. breakup song. I just have to ask the one. question cuz I think it's like I saw a. TikTok. We're going to we have to make. this TikTok and it's someone being like. you guys remember when those two sisters. walked into the studio and they really. said this like. it's so funny. It's to this day still. such an anthem. What inspired that song? >> No. >> [laughter].

>> Not not a real person. >> Not a real person. It's actually the most like it's the. most anti-climactic. >> It was I mean there's no real person. I. don't know. >> I need to pause you guys because the way. you both just paused, I thought I was. about to get like. >> juicy now. >> I hear saying it's like. >> [laughter]. >> record scratch. >> It doesn't exist. >> exist. >> Wait, okay, tell me though. >> I think we just were like what if there. was a guy that was such a like I mean at. this point we were 18 and. maybe younger. Maybe 17 and and 15. writing the song.

>> It's like a date but like very little. actual dating. >> At this point we had probably each had. you would have probably two boyfriends. I barely had one boyfriend cuz I was way. behind behind her. >> Okay. >> So like. >> I'm like she was behind me. >> So we were still a lot of So still a lot. of the songs were like. living in a dream world of what we. thought a relationship was like because. we were still really young. So. to us it was like what if this guy was. like so terrible that he didn't call you. on your birthday and that you begged him. to get your stuff back and he like. wouldn't give it back and then you just. had to deliver it in a box at your. house. >> Surely that sentence is bad. >> It's literally like you two sitting on.

your bed together being like, "Genius. Let's. >> Yeah, let's let's go. >> But you know what's funny though is that. we couldn't drive. I do remember I do. remember we were young we weren't young. enough that we were driving. [clears throat]. >> Since there is no story behind it, tell. me. both of your like most brutal breakups. >> Call Her Daddy is brought to you by. Häagen-Dazs. Daddy gang, I think we all. deserve a little more me time, [music]. whether it's work, school, or whatever. is bringing you down. It's so important. to take a second to slow down and treat. yourself. And lately my favorite way to.

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and associated information based on. TransUnion data. We've got a lot of girlies that listen. How did you get through it? What was. your most like brutal. breakup and how you got through it? Obviously, like we're not naming names, but just like the concept. Like have. either of you ever been cheated on? >> I mean, you and you go first. >> Yeah, I was cheated on. I found out the. guy was like. hooking up with our really good friend. at the time. >> No, how did you find out? >> blew up the friendship and the. relationship. >> Yeah. >> I don't even know how it came out, but. it happened in the Calabasas Commons.

parking lot. >> Stop. >> Yeah, and it was like it was terrible. And we were young, so it was like. obviously it hits hard no matter what. age you are when you feel like wow, I've. been completely. >> But this was like a friendship This was. like a friendship, a girl friendship. that was was basically the breakup. It. wasn't like the guy, if that makes. sense. It was like we had found out some. stuff about her that made us feel like. we didn't really know who she was and. we'd been friends for years. And that was truly the the worst. breakup, and it was a girlfriend. breakup. >> Yeah, that's Those are the worst.

>> And then we mended. Like we're okay now. >> did? You're like okay. >> if we see her at a event or whatever, we. like we'll DM and stuff, but we don't. like hang actively, which is kind of sad. cuz it was a big part of our childhood. But like. >> That is so rough. >> That guy was like didn't even matter. >> Right, you're like it's just the concept. of what happened with the friendship. >> always the worst when like. understandably people are like don't. blame the girl, blame the guy and it's. like you know no for sure. But if you. were almost closer with the girl than. the guy that you were dating, that's. where it's like how do you recover from. those moments? And then it gives you. like full trust issues cuz you're like.

how did I not know that and you could. like hold my hand while I'm crying over. this and little do I know I'm crying cuz. of you. Yeah, that's sick. Okay, Ali go. Um okay, I'm trying to think. Gosh, worst? Um You haven't been cheated on, have. you? I haven't been cheated on. That's. nice. Which is actually good. I know, that's beautiful. >> [laughter]. >> Let's all clap for that. No trauma. Um yeah, no trauma. Um I I'm. trying to think of. hm.

I mean, I've had guys I've I've had more. guys probably break up with me than me. break up with them. Okay. So, I've been. broken up with probably quite a bit. Have you been blindsided by the. breakups? I mean, I feel like I was. blindsided many times. Like Not many. But but but but a lot of them. It was. like, you know, I was being broken up. with because this person was like a. professional athlete and was like I need. to work on my job and like you're a. distraction. I'm like I need to work on. my I'm on a tour bus right now. You're a. distraction. I need to work on my job?

Yeah, I know. Ridiculous. That could. have been a direct quote. No no, that is. the best. >> [laughter]. >> direct quote I've ever heard. A. professional athlete telling you I have. to work on my job. We Do you know that I. talk a lot about that? Yes. Wait, how long did you date? It. wasn't that long, but it was very like. um. That was like a solid year. May maybe. maybe a little I don't even know if it. was a What sport? Hockey? Football? Football. I remember being really. heartbroken by that. Now I'm looking.

back on it like being like. But to any of the girls that are like I. feel like around New Year, a lot of. people end relationships cuz I feel like. everyone's like oh my gosh, like I want. to start fresh. I want to kick this. person to the curb or I want to like try. something different." Like, do you have. any advice when you look back at those. relationships when people ended things. with you? As hard as it was in the. moment, now when you look back, like. give us some advice of how to get. through those horrible blindsiding. moments. >> Honestly, like having a couple really.

solid guy friends was really helpful. Like I would talk to them about this and. they'd be like, "This guy's a total. loser. Like absolutely not." And and you. know, of course you could say that. >> who are saying that. They want to get. with you. But. >> These were like truly platonic. >> Even if they do, okay? It has to be a. lot of guys. >> But they were platonic relationships. that were really like I would I would be. on the phone like talking to Dan, you. know, and be like. and be like "I can't even believe this.". And he'd be like, "This is an absolute sign that this guy. is not right for you and like he was.

only in it because he just wanted to. like. sleep with you and be done and over with. it, you know?". >> Thank you. Um okay, Daddy Gang needs some advice. and I feel like all I'm getting from. this entire episode is you guys are very. wise and you've always been wise and. you've always been like. literally like you guys No, but. actually, you guys have been like people. would let you into the club cuz they're. like Ali and AJ are going to keep it. real. You guys didn't lose yourself to. fame. You didn't lose You guys have like. seemingly very normal lives and you're.

still so successful and you're still in. the spotlight. So we need your advice, okay? >> Okay. >> You want to end a friendship where. you've been drifting apart. Do you have. a breakup conversation with your friend. or do you let it die out? >> [sighs]. >> I've done both. >> I've had more, if I'm being honest, I've. had a couple die outs, not. conversations. Where it's just kind of. like you kind of stop texting and then. it's like. >> They also do. >> Yeah, and then they It's like you kind. of were like we both know this isn't. right. >> Which is kind of a form of ghosting. It's not great. >> is. It is. I think you should have the.

conversation. >> have the conversation, though, do you think those were more extreme. moments? Like did something. >> Yes, it can make it too big of a deal. But but it was usually because it was. based on something that happened that I. was like I can't really not see this now. and it's here and let's talk about it. And this is why I can't go forward as a. friend. >> But I think that's good advice. It's. like you kind of have to gauge where. you're at. If it's just like you never. really see each other anymore but you. have this like weight over you and. they're not being that great to you, you. can maybe let it simmer. >> Yeah, to me some somethings don't need.

like a spotlight. >> True. >> Sometimes sometimes it's not like this. big huge fight. Sometimes it's like. I'm seeing some things about your. lifestyle that doesn't gel with mine or. or that, you know, I don't know, you. weren't there for me in these moments. that I needed you and it's kind of like. showing your true colors and that's. okay. We just parted our own ways. >> Yeah. >> That's like sometimes that's part of. just growing up and being a girl. >> I think that's what's like been so. eye-opening as I've gotten older like. growing apart from friendships is so. sad. >> It is sad.

>> And it's like horrible to look back at. like some of my like high school friends. that I'm not as close with anymore. whatever or just also like recognizing. like we really grew up and we are. different or like we live our lives. differently and that doesn't mean. they're a bad person. You're just like. it doesn't mesh anymore. >> is sad when a part of your childhood in. that way kind of dies and you're like, wait, I just said bye to a friend in a. way that I know I'm not really going to. connect with again. >> And I think it's like sometimes yes, sometimes those are harder than actual. breakups with men sometimes where you're. like, [ __ ] that hurt. But I think. that's a good like bit of advice is like.

you can do both but I think don't. actively seek out a conversation if the. person's going to be like, wait, what. what are you talking about? >> If something happens, absolutely address. it but you can also like let something. simmer if that's like the natural course. of where it was going to go anyways. >> Yeah, and it says a lot if both sides. aren't really reaching out. Then it's. like the natural course was for it to. fizzle. >> That says everything in a way. >> Okay, you find out you were accidentally. the other woman. Do you reach out to her. or do you stay out of it? >> I'm the type that would reach out.

>> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> We're. >> both breathing so heavy. We're all like. I'm like, yeah, I think I would contact. her. >> I would I think I would I yeah. >> I'm the other woman. >> I'm so sorry. I didn't know. Um, well, what's funny is that we've. seen one of our girlfriends our close. girlfriends do that and I it was like I. was kind of being like, don't do this. This is this is cringe. Like why is this. a huge message, you know? >> I don't know if she did it right. >> do it right.

>> I think there's a way you can. >> I mean, I've said that to her face. Like. you didn't nail this. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, she literally wrote. >> like a paragraph. >> Yeah, no, no, no. >> And also then that girl is like, yeah, right. Sure, honey, you know, and then. making her look like she's crazy when. she actually is telling the truth. >> Are you making this up that you're. really the other woman? Like yeah, you. look insane. >> Oh, this is really interesting. Yeah, I. think a paragraph to ever start. something off you got to go in shorter. and just begin the combo rather than hit. it hard where someone's like, oh my god, I need to like read this tonight when I.

have time like and sit down and actually. think about this. But okay, so you guys. would both say something. >> I would be like I'm sick. I'm ill. Like. this this happened. I need you to know. and I'm so sorry. Bye. >> I kind of agree with that. Like I feel. like if you were not again clarifying. you didn't even know you were the other. woman. If you were aware like then. that's a complete different situation. That's like on you but karma is on you. Yes, but if you weren't aware I kind of. agree cuz then even if she stays on her. You know what I mean? >> Totally. At least you had your moment to.

say like this moment happened and I said. my peace and like I can live with that. >> Love this. If you knew one of your close. friends was cheating on her husband who. you're also friends with, how do you. handle that? >> That's really hard. >> That's really hard. That's never. happened, thank god. Has that ever. happened to you? Maybe not husband or. your boyfriend. >> I have known not husband, but yeah, I've. known that there's like shadiness going. on and. >> And you're close to both of them. >> Yeah. And I kind of stayed out of it.

Cuz I just didn't know. >> Did it dissolve on its own with with you. staying out of it? >> I mean I'm not really that close with. them anymore so I don't know what. happened. But I also think maybe that. partially is because it was like. bleeding into every part of their like. when you're lying that heavily in your. life. everything in your life. Like she was. more distant cuz she was being so cagey. about it and then I was kind of like I. don't know. Oh wow yeah I didn't. >> I think it depends on maybe who like. who's the OG friend? Is it is it her or. is it the guy? Like I don't know like if. you met him at the same I mean if you. met at the same time it's it's hard.

>> It's so hard to. >> to think I'd have the courage to say. something or to be like I don't know. like is everything okay? Like. >> Well I want to think if I'm the same. woman who's going to tell the person I. was the other woman and didn't know. until just now I'd be that same person. to say this. >> Like I'd like to think those two ladies. are the same person. You know what I. mean? >> Like bold like. >> I agree. I think what's hard sometimes. in friendship dynamics is like there's a. lot of dynamics I feel like you start to. feel. as you get older and there's cheating. involved. I have found. sometimes I'm not privy to all the.

information of these people's. relationships and a lot of times I'm. like oh you kind of knew that like. Yeah so I'm like if I'm super close if. it was my best friend and I'm fine I'm. hearing something I'm telling her. obviously and be like I love you so much. and I support you. I just needed tell. you I know this and then I'm here. whatever you want to do cuz I think it's. half the time the judgement that people. feel when someone brings that. information. They get so anxious like I. have to leave him now or I have to leave. her now and it's like. I don't know sometimes I feel like I.

come off as judgy when you tell them so. I also think your delivery has to be. like I love you and I know this is so. hard. >> But I saw so-and-so at this restaurant. and this is. >> this information out. But I'm here for. you if you want to talk and like. whatever you do I love you. >> I think now in my 30s that is how I. would approach it but it would take me a. hot minute to come to that. >> Yes. >> like bravery of of like okay we're doing. this. >> You'd call your sister first. You'd be. like what do I do?". >> Totally. We'd rehearse it. I'd hold her. hand while she says the conversation. Or. we would go in person and I'd hold her. hand in person. >> Thanks, Riley. >> Um okay, you accidentally sent a.

screenshot of the conversation to the. person you were gossiping about. How do. you play it off? >> Ooh. >> Have you guys ever done that? >> that? >> You know, no. >> Oh my god, I have. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Have you done it multiple times or. just once? >> in college, I was talking [ __ ] about the. guy that I was seeing and I was like. texting my friend and I was sunbathing. I was at Boston University. I remember. exactly where I was laying. I was in my. little bikini and it was so bright out. and I was holding my phone up texting. and I was talking to this hockey player. He was so dumb and I was just like so.

over. I screenshotted it, send it to him being. like, "Hockey player wants me to go on. his boat later. Like, I'm going to have. to have like a couple drinks.". >> And it went to him. And then what he. What was his response? Was he like, >> He was like, "Now you can unsend.". >> I know. So we're in a good era for that. So now we're fine. So now we're good. >> And I Guys, I literally responded, I'm. pretty sure, like First, I called my mom. screaming. Like, I You guys, I am under. the sun. I realized I did it and I'm. pretty sure he responded like lol at.

first, which is like actually. >> Yeah, that's. >> kind of hilarious. >> like, "Oh, that's funny." Or "She's so. dumb.". >> This is a funny joke, right? >> Yeah, it shows how Yeah. >> I'm like, "It shows how dumb I am.". >> You're like, "I am hilarious." Yeah. No, and then I was like, "lol, I'm just. kidding. Like, I just can't decide if I. want to come. Like, what are you. thinking?" You guys, did he Did he roll with. >> He completely rolled with it. >> Wow. >> So I'm later that night. >> Ooh, but that says even more. >> You didn't send the conversation saying. he wasn't smart. >> Completely. Also, why did I go? I don't. know, I was bored. You know what I mean? Also, I think it was an ego thing where.

I was like, "I have to see this man to. like make sure that he actually forgave. me." Like, this is insane that he. doesn't recognize that I was completely. [ __ ] talking him. >> doing a day. I I would be more likely. for sure to do something like that. 100%. it would be Ally. >> You would? Way over me. >> Like, I'm actually surprised it hasn't. happened twice. >> But it hasn't. Wait, cuz you're just. like you're going to do some like clumsy. [ __ ] where you're like how did I get in. this situation? >> Or you're just like, "Hello, you're on. the wrong group chat." It's like, "Oh. shit." Yeah. >> There will be times where I'll like. sidebar chat to her and I'll be like, "Just so you know, you're talking in a. way that if this leads to more,

>> This is you're on the wrong you're on. the wrong you're on the wrong track. here. >> And she'll be like, "Oh, >> You're like, "Oh, thank you.". >> Totally. Thank you. >> So, yeah. That is kind of like younger. sister energy though. >> The correction officer. >> I call my sister and I'm like, "Are you. okay?" And she's like, "What?" And I'm. like, "Why are you sending that to the. family group chat? You We were just. texting." And she's like, >> "Oh my gosh, I don't know." Like, "Yeah, I'm kind of I'm always doing that.". >> That that that does track as younger. sister energy. >> It is. It is. It's like we we know. everything. Like stay at home exactly. Um, okay, do you guys ever go on double. dates?

>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, I mean with our people now. >> With our guys now. I don't think in the. past have we ever really done that in. the past. I'm trying to think. >> Before Steven and Josh? No, I don't. think so. >> I don't think so. >> That's become more of an adult like. >> Yeah, but it's been like three-wheeling. where it's like two people on a date and. then I'm like, "Hey, I'm here hanging. with you having lunch, you know?" Or. vice versa. >> Yeah, that's. >> Let's talk about Steven and Josh. >> Okay. >> Steven and Josh. >> [laughter]. >> So serious. Ali, you met your husband. when you were in your early 20s. What. made him stand out to you? >> Um, I don't know. I just got a vibe. Like.

this guy is just different. Like he's. really deep. He's very mature. He's just. like tapped into something. >> Where did you guys meet? >> Uh, we met on a set. He was a DP and I. was the like lead actor in this like. really tiny little indie. Um, and I don't know. Like I just picked. up this energy from him that. um, like just instantly I was kind of. like, "This guy is like I'm like safe. with this guy. Like I can really be. myself around him." And he's like.

artistic and he really cares about this. project and how he's talking about it. and how he is on set. He's has very much. like a leadership kind of energy. Um, even though he was very young and it was. the first movie that he was, you know, a. DP on. Um, so I don't know. I was just like, it was. a meant-to-be thing. And at the time, I. was seeing a guy that I was in like I. call it like a kept relationship. Um, >> Wait, what? >> Like I couldn't get out. It was just. like he was a guy who was older than me.

>> A kept relationship? >> like that I had lost my virginity to, to. be completely honest. >> like, girl, we got to get rid of him. >> I was like, I'm good. Like it's it's all. good. Like this is a sweet memory and. moment, but like we're good. We're done. >> break up and he. >> And he was like, I made you a woman. Like that. >> He said that? >> He did. >> Ali is cringe. >> No, so it's cringe. >> cringe. >> We know. How long were you together with. him? >> Uh, like a year, year and a like a year. and a half. >> Yeah, I mean. >> I know. I know. >> Well, she you had a okay friendship with. him in the beginning.

>> It's someone that should have always. been like a guy friend. >> Yeah. >> Like never should have dated. >> 100%. >> We For a man to say that he made you a. woman, I will kill you. >> No, I know. I know. >> cringe. >> that I was like kind of chill, like. almost kind of like a bro, like. >> Yes. >> this is nice, like whatever. Like who. cares? I lost my virginity to you. It's. like not that big of a deal. >> And he. He like had it in his diary. >> Yeah, it's not that big of a big deal. Like, wow, I'm excited about this. >> How did you end a relationship with him? Cuz that's hard. Like to be like someone. that's clearly he was more into it than. you. It was you called it a kept.

relationship, sweet. >> I know. I know. >> you did end it and then remember he like. convinced you to stay in it. >> in it. So I like I we had broken up and. then we got back together. And then I'm. on the this movie like hanging out, you. know, shooting in Sequoia National Park. We're all we're all staying in these. cabins at the base of the mountain. So. like after we would wrap, we all would. eat dinner together. >> out and like. >> hang out and like run lines or whatever. And um, I just remember like. essentially like talking [ __ ] about him. to people being like, I I don't know.

I'm like I'm in this relationship, but. like I got to get out of it. Like, you. know, at this time it was like what it. was like November beginning of November. So I was probably thinking like, you. know, I'm going to try to wrap this up. and and be on my way. But I knew that I. had. I had agreed to do a movie that he was. directing that was next. >> It was the next film. >> I had to do this next movie with him as. a director. And I broke up I broke up. with him at the beginning of the movie. I was so brutal. >> But then had to be in it. >> to be in it. >> Directed by him. >> Yeah, and he would be kind of trying to. be like, "No, like we can make this.

work." And I was like, "We're done. I I. really don't want to do this.". >> Wait, you're so strong. >> It was brutal. It was not I do not. recommend doing that. I recommend just. bailing out of the movie and not doing. the movie. >> True, but also that's like your career. where you're like, like do I do it or. that's tough. >> Yeah, it was a great time. >> Wait, that's also like ladies listening, I have been in that situation before. when you try to break up with someone, anyone. >> And they don't let you go, okay? >> They literally won't let you. >> And they won't let you? >> That means it's really bad. >> Run. Run. Get out. It's kind of like. firing It's kind of like firing someone.

that's like, you're not. >> Yeah, you're not doing this. >> I'm not leaving. >> What? But why would you want me to. leave? >> Like if I'm firing you, you're not going. to be like, "No, I'm not leaving.". >> They'll be like, "No, that's normal.". Like they'll be like ups and downs. Like. sometimes like you'll be you'll be in. and out of love. I'm like, "No, no, no.". This is not okay. >> when someone doesn't want you, listen to. them and leave. >> Yes, believe them. Oh my god. Okay, wait. So when you met Ali's husband, like were you immediately you like. >> in the beginning I was like. >> she was a little judgmental like there's. some She's like there's some crossover. that's happening here. >> a little judgy, I'm not going to lie. Even though I knew Ali was going to get.

out of it, I was like you should have. gotten out of it like 6 months ago and. then you'd be like free and clear, but. whatever. Um but then when he turned into my. husband, you know, he turned into the. husband so I'm happy and he's literally. become like my brother. Like I love him. and I have so much respect for him as a. husband and uh dad. Like to watch him as. a father, like it's really beautiful. Um. but in the beginning I was like, I don't. know about this guy. Like he was really. shy, he was really quiet. I don't do. great with quiet people. Except for like. when I was translating.

>> She was she was a translator. >> But like in general like I'm like come. on like let's go. Like let's have a. conversation. Like I've got a really. bubbly personality and he was just very. quiet. He's like an intellectual. He's. very He's super grounded, super smart. And I think I felt maybe like a little. like okay, here's this like Ivy League. guy. I'm not going to be able to like. carry a conversation with him. He's. probably smarter than me. Like I think I. was intimidated. >> I get that. And again, back to what we. were saying with sisters, it's like. >> You're protective. >> protective and you have to look for her. blind spots. >> Yes. >> That's how I am with my sister. Like. she's dating right now and I'm like no,

what is going on and what it like cuz. I'm just like I want the best for her. So naturally it is your job almost to be. like I don't like you until you prove. that I should like you. >> Yes. And then he did and I was like I. love him. Although two years later when. he proposed, I like sobbed. >> Oh yeah, and you knew before. >> Yeah. I got so Not because I wasn't. happy for Ali. I literally felt like I'm. like I'm going to lose my sister, I. think. Like I had this weird unrealistic. idea that a marriage meant. >> that the sisterhood would be over, yeah. >> Like I literally went up we were living. together in Laurel Canyon and we were.

sharing a place and I went upstairs. I. lived in the top loft and I like closed. my closet door and I sobbed. I was so. happy for her but at the same time I was. like I'm literally going to lose my. sister. And it didn't happen at all. >> Of course, here we are. >> Yeah, here we are. >> But I do think that's really relatable. Like I've talked about this with my. siblings, especially like around the. holiday season you get to spend more. time with your family. And it is kind of. like sad when you start to get older and. adult and do all the things that adults. should be doing and your core family. starts to expand. And it's like now.

you're creating your own family. >> Right, and your own memories and. traditions. Yeah. >> so sad but exciting but I really felt. that a lot of like as we are all growing. older, you're like wait, I want to hold. on to my siblings and what we had in our. core. Don't grow up and don't leave me. >> Yeah. >> But really it's more just like there's. now more memories and there's more fun. and there's more people. >> You mourn that it dies. >> No, but I get why you would freak out. cuz like I'm the same way. >> You're going to On the wedding night. like God bless our dad but like he we. were doing like a dance even though it.

was a father-daughter dance later down. the road. It wasn't my father-daughter. dance. You had had yours but I was like. later dancing with dad and I was like. this is a really sweet moment and dad. goes, "Honey, how are you doing?" And I. was like I'm really happy for them. Like. I feel really good about this and he was. like, "That's awesome. You know what? You lost a sister but you gained a. brother.". >> And I was like what the. >> Huh? >> I [laughter] MEAN IT'S INSANE. >> EVERYTHING I HAD CRIED ABOUT. >> My dad just Our dad talks like that. Like he. And I was like huh? >> You're like wait, come again? You're. like dad?

>> This is why I've been mentally unwell. for the past couple years. >> Yes, unwell but this is also the same. man love you dad shout out to dad and. mom great people. This is also the same. man who like lost his father a few years. ago and Steven never got to meet him our. grandpa. And literally at the funeral told Steven. At the funeral told Steven, "I want you. to meet my dad.". >> And he was dead in the casket. >> in the like that's You know what I mean? Like that verbage is interesting. >> Yeah. >> I want you to meet my dad.

>> [laughter]. >> It's an open casket. You want to shake. his hand. >> And I don't know how Wait, you were. there to witness this. You said that Steven handled it as. >> Steven handled it so well. He was like. okay Mark. Steven's like Mark, I am. going to meet your dad and we're going. to hit it off over here. Stares at the open casket. >> But dads can say some really. >> No, you guys it's unwell. The more and more they get older dads. >> have to smile. My dad has been saying. some crazy Love you dad some crazy [ __ ]. lately. I'm like. >> Huh?

>> Love you dad. >> Love you dad. >> Like you got to just laugh. >> Happy holidays. >> Happy holidays. You're all insane. >> Yeah. Um okay AJ. You have a boyfriend. >> I do. It's been six years. Yeah. >> How did you guys meet? >> We met at a film festival in Napa. Um Ali and I I know it was actually. bougie. Ali and I had made a film with. her husband that had gone to the Napa. Valley Film Festival and he had produced. and starred in a short film that was. shortlisted for an Oscar that year that. was also premiering at the film. festival. >> And it was an amazing short film and him.

and I met and like there was like a. spark but at the time he was with his. girlfriend there and I was dating. someone in Canada. >> Classic. >> I loved long distance for a while which. was just really on that kick. >> Um. and and I just was like gosh I'm going. to know this guy for a while and I don't. know how or why and it's going to happen. at some point but I remember he was. wearing a like lumberjack red black. flannel and I was just like this guy is. hot and he's like salt of the earth. vibes and then down the road a year. later he was single I was single and we.

connected on Instagram. >> And we needed somebody in the video for. take me. >> I had I cast him in the video. >> in our in our video cuz we were playing. vampires and. >> you were like can we kill you in the. video? >> he should be in the video. Like let's. have him in the. >> Yeah. What was your first impression? How did you meet him? When did you meet. him? >> I met him at the at the festival. >> Yeah, I think he was. >> Okay, cuz maybe was there like a panel. panel or something together? I think. yeah yeah and then and then we did the. the video shoot and he was like super. down and then we had a couple. girlfriends come and also be victims and.

they were like down to just kind of like. hang out for the day. >> When they started dating were you. protective or not? >> I don't know. What do you feel like? >> I feel like because you already had. Steven in play. for such a right chunk of your life. you've lost some of that because you're. set and you're like she's got this. >> Yeah, I think maybe when I AJ was. younger I was more protective or more. like who is this guy? Like what are you. after? Are you actually a loser and. you're just like hiding it really well? Um but but I feel like I've always been.

on like good terms with most of the guys. that you've dated. >> like you have. >> Like kind of a friendly banter. You. maybe not as much where you've been been. like friends with my exes. >> True, in a way I've been more judgmental. about who she's dated than the other way. around which again maybe is the little. sister big sister. >> Oh, me too. I'm like you're a [ __ ]. loser. You don't deserve have sister. My. sister's like "Alex, I've gone on two. dates with this man and you just ran. into him on the street in New York. This. wasn't even a planned meeting." I'm. like, "Back off.". >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, "What?". >> Um, okay. I'm like, "Yeah, that's a. nightmare to have me.". >> Your parents are divorced, right? >> Yeah. >> How do you guys think their divorce.

informed how you approached your. romantic relationships in your adult. lives? >> If I'm going to speak for AJ, I think. that. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> No, that's fine. Don't I speak for you? Speak for me. >> Yeah, I think I mean we we kind of do in. general. >> each other. >> Like maybe a bad habit, but. >> Um. I I think that AJ, as the little sister. vibes, was more. like heartbroken by it and shattered and. took it really bad. >> age did they get divorced? >> Um, 21. >> 19 and 21. >> Okay. >> Okay. 19 and 21. >> So like in a way you're old enough to.

know exactly what happened, all the. details. Like I I think there's a there's a. positive and a negative to it, but I. think for us. >> I was shattered. >> it helped that I was on a TV show and I. was living by myself alone for the first. time out in Vancouver. >> Oh, yeah. >> And so I was just focused on that. And. you were like left. >> At home. >> at home with my mom. Still all of us at. that point were living together and you. were kind of mourning the divorce a. little bit with her. So I think in a. weird way you like carried some of that. trauma with you. Where I was kind of.

like, "Bye, I'm off shooting the show. for 8 9 months.". >> you and and then but when you wrapped, we ended up living together we lived. with our mom while she kind of dealt. with getting her life back together. after the divorce. Like we it would. ended up being like a home of three. women. Like we kind of. >> It was like Three's Company, but just. just ladies. >> Yeah. No, that kind of stuff like I know. can like you're right affects people in. different ways. Literally down to like. logistically where you were at in the. middle of your parents getting divorced. can play such a role and like how it. genuinely affected you cuz you got to be. essentially removed.

>> Correct. >> Yeah. >> That's a good point. >> Did you notice anything with like how. that affected when you started to like. engage in romantic relationships? >> There was infidelity with what happened. We're actually like super. close with both parents and I was able. to forgive our father and like I. actually feel like we're in a great. place now, but at the time it was really. hard for me. And I think when I was. dating people, I immediately had this. trigger that like they're going to cheat. on like they're going to like because. how could that happen after 23 years of. marriage? Like I feel bad talking about. it cuz I love my dad, but like it really. was one of those things that became a. trigger point that like didn't really.

need to be there. Like no one needs to. be assuming you're being cheated on. You. just feel like you've seen it now, so. you're like it's going to happen to you. >> It's It's more possible. >> I also think like. you that's such an interesting dynamic. cuz I could be sitting here with someone. that had their parents get divorced when. they were like six and it [ __ ] them. up. I It is interesting hearing you guys. talk about cuz I know this is a very. very very relatable topic which like I. have a friend that has a similar. situation to you guys with your parents. When you are that age and you're. very deep and about to begin to explore.

your romantic adult relationships to. have a foundation that was like pretty. It seems like pretty solid for your. whole. >> Well, people would be shocked, you know, >> to find out like wait, >> Yeah, the family they they broke up. >> So your reality was so like disrupted. I. can imagine that yes, like then you're. like wait, if I can't trust like my dad, then I can't trust any of these men. When really again it's like they're. doing this for the first time too and. that's their relationship whatever, but. it affects you. >> It does.

>> girls. >> or at least I didn't feel like it turned. me off from marriage or not believing in. marriage for whatever reason. >> No. No. >> I think we still like believed in the. idea of it and. and. I don't know. I think we always felt. like okay, there is a. there is a a chance that you can. actually have a successful marriage in. this day and age. You just got to really. work on it. And I think if I'm. >> They stopped working on it. >> Yeah, they stopped working on it. If I'm. going to be the the little Yoda that I.

am in my. >> it bring it. Here we go. >> that I am in my heart. >> I love it. >> I love you. >> I'm joking. But I do love Yoda actually. The child really is. >> the child. We love Grogu. Um. I think that not working on. the relationship between the mom and dad. like is is the whole end of the marriage. because everything was poured into me. and AJ and that was almost like a. scapegoat. And then it was like, oh, we. don't work on ourselves. We're not going. to be in therapy. We're not going to do.

these things. We're not going to make. sure that you are flown out on tour. every, you know, two and a half weeks. while my mom is out of town. >> being the parents that were really there. for the two kids in the industry? >> like, but then your guys' relationship. falls apart. >> apart which uh then affects us. >> Right. I That's interesting. I saw. someone recently talking about um when. people just become their identity is. being a mother or a father. It's like. you can't just be one thing. Like what's. your identity to yourself? What's your. identity to your partner? And that's how. you lose yourself if you're just one. I.

wonder like obviously how old is your. child? >> He's he'll be 8 months. I mean, I guess. when he's when we when this is out like. he'll be, you know, almost 9. >> Oh my god. Yeah. How has like that. concept of like recognizing still. needing to pour cuz you're in the thick. of it right now. Like you've got. basically a newborn. How have you tried. to like work with your partner to make. sure you guys are good even in the. excitement of having like a new child. and that's all you want to talk about? >> Well, I think I think making moments.

where it can be the two of us or even if. like our kid is around, it's like, okay, well, he's like asleep right now and we. can still kind of have like a little. date night and go out dinner and put him. in his little stroller and like it can. still be romantic or we can put a movie. on or we can get away to our favorite. place in Big Sur and it can be. not just all about the kid, you know? >> No, your son is so adorable. Like when. he was out tour, I was like I was like. this is the most calm baby. I literally. walk into your dressing room. He's here. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can see him. I see. him after, yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's in a little He's not in a. matching. We get miniature, but he's in. a. >> Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would have. tried to get the same thing. >> Yeah, we did. >> No, I'm obsessed. >> And they were just like, "We can't get. that turned around in time.". >> "Please calm down." You're like, "Okay, fine." Um okay, before we're going to go. through now, I want to do new music and. we're going to play one last game. because I think it's fun because sister. dynamic. Okay, ready? Who is the more bougie one. between the two of you? Who likes the. nicer stuff? >> I don't know. >> Maybe maybe AJ. She'll splurge on more. like. um. like a skin care thing or like doing.

like like. >> Skin is beautiful. Thank you. >> Facials, massages. >> Oh, yeah, the spa, the spa. >> We both love a spa, but I I tend to like. maybe do it a little too much. >> I was going to say, is that like the. most like what is the luxury thing you. can't live without? The spa? >> Yeah, facials. Like every like 3 weeks. >> it's paying off. Like literally. >> You have great skin. >> Did you ever have bad skin like as a as. a teen? >> Oh my god, yes. So, like I will take all. the compliments. No. Oh my god, you. guys, I had like full Accutane when I. was younger. >> Really? >> But it was just like very hormonal and.

then like I got over it. >> Wow. >> And now like. here we are. Facials. Um okay, who is. more likely to take a secret to the. grave? >> Me. >> I probably AJ. >> Yeah, AJ. >> Yeah. >> You just smiled so. >> I'm like, yeah. >> Yeah, that is true. >> I'm like, come on, [ __ ] it's me. >> But I'm pretty good at keeping a secret, but with each other. Like. >> Got it. >> to the grave together. Do you know what. I mean? Like. >> to the grave that's not a. >> I know, but it's like it has to be. between the two of us. >> Who is more likely to pick a fight.

between the two of you? >> I mean, we both can pick a fight with. each other. pretty like. pretty quickly if it's the right subject. matter. Yeah, the right thing. If it's. like we're disagreeing on something like. how something was handled. Like AJ will. be like, "You had a bunch of typos in. this one business email." I'm like, "Who. cares?". >> Yeah, I'll correct you forever. >> She's like she will She's like, "You're. You're You're writing an email like. you're texting, you know, like. >> I'm like, "This is sloppy.". >> This isn't good for our business. >> I'm I'm "Okay." I'm like, "Sorry." Like. that, you know? Like. >> a fight, but like I usually start. something sooner, I feel like than you.

do. >> That's probably true, yeah. AJ's maybe a. little more fiery. >> Love. If you had to say what is your. biggest pet peeve about each other? >> Mhm. >> I just like started a full fight between. you guys on the pod. >> [laughter]. >> On this podcast. >> Oh my gosh, I have it. >> Wow. >> Oh well. >> Allie started doing this in the last. like year, very consistently. I actually. don't think I have addressed it with. you. Where she'll go, maybe you could do. that. >> Yeah, you're right. It's me. It's me. being like. >> start a sentence that she's asking you. to do something, but instead it's like, maybe you could get that bottle. Like. for Jack. Or like, maybe you could get.

that. >> That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I don't know how you word it exactly. I. think it starts with maybe you could. >> Oh, interesting. >> And it's like a like you want me to? Like you want me to? Or I could maybe do. it. Like ask me the question. >> Okay, so I should just be asking the. question. >> Yes. >> Or just be like, get me this. Get me this. >> I mean, I'd rather you just say like, do. that. Maybe you could. >> Maybe you could. Oh, interesting. >> Oh, that's infuriating. It drives me. nuts. Oh, that's a good one. >> That is a great one. >> Okay, your turn. >> AJ. Um. Mhm. Okay,

we both are OCD and we know this about. each other. But AJ loves to reorganize. an area that I've already kind of. pre-tried to organize knowing that AJ. doesn't like something moved. Like the. shoes or something. I'm like, okay, she'll like it in this corner. And then. it's like moved and it's like the shoes. are just in a different corner, but. they're still. they're still on the ground. >> like, I literally cleaned for you. >> I cleaned for the OCD, like just trying. to get ahead of. >> But that's OCD. You can't the beauty. It. has to be your way. >> You have to be your way. My doesn't make. any damn sense, but it's your way. >> Even if you look at it that way.

>> Nothing logical. It's like this pile of. clothes. >> I did not reorganize this bookshelf. >> I can't imagine your feeling in this. room. >> It's only in my own space. That's what's. weird. It's never in someone else's, ever. >> Who is the first to usually apologize if. you guys are coming back from a fight? >> Probably AJ. Yeah. >> Allie, I don't even remember the last. time you said I'm sorry. >> Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not good at saying. sorry. >> not apologize. Okay. >> No, you said but you're you said you're. usually lightly starting it and then. you're ending it. >> Yes. >> Love that for you. >> I'm a closer. >> Um you guys your new music. Okay, we're.

here. Let's talk about it. You have a. new album coming out and a single. The. single is coming out on January 10th. Love. What is it called? >> What it feels like. >> We were supposed to do that at the same. time but it's fine. >> Yeah, yeah, let's do it again. Ready? >> Okay. >> What is it called? >> What it feels like. >> Wait. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ]. >> [gasps]. >> And five, six, seven, eight. What it. feels like. >> Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Okay, talk to me. about this album. What is the. inspiration behind the music? >> I mean, this record feels like it's.

never been more us. Obviously, every. single album you're hoping to achieve. you know, that 10% better, right? Each. time. Just like you would with like each. you know, season of the show. But I do. feel like we've really stepped into like. our womanhood on this album and I think. part of that is. I think just seeing that. this music. um has been so informed by our live show. and touring and playing songs to a live.

audience and with our band that we've. now been playing with for a few years. has really helped us. identify, okay, this is the kind of. music we want to put on a record and. what we wanted then go out and tour. So, I think it's looking at it from like. the live show is the the top of the. pyramid and how do we get to the live. show? Um and I think a lot of this music was. um created with people that we felt. really safe with and was.

while I was like heavily pregnant. I. mean, I guess we started writing it. right before I got pregnant and then. really the whole making of this album. has been either me pregnant and then. delivering and then album is finished. and delivered at some. >> god, it's weird. >> Yes. Her water broke in like day two of. like pre-production. >> at her house. At my yeah, in the guest. room at like 6:00 a.m. I was texting with Stephen. He was very. He was like I'm like what's going on in. there? He's like I think her water. broke. I was like What? We just started. And then I got really nervous thinking.

OCD. I was like she's going to be pissed. cuz this water is on her bed and on the. ground. Not when it's like your child. Although that is pretty funny. Ali was. like clean it up. >> [laughter]. >> Wait. >> [clears throat]. >> Oh. my god. We Okay, so how long was the. writing process of this album? The. writing was finished. So I would say the. writing took a solid year. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> By the time we were really ready to be. like these are the 15 songs we want to. record. >> We're very like. >> Like just maybe just under maybe just. under a year.

>> Yeah. >> This is a hard question. What is your. favorite song off the album? >> That's hard. I'm so happy with this. record, but I really think my number one. is Michael's song. We wrote it about a really dear friend. of ours that we had worked with in the. industry for years and he passed away. last year. And we were like we have to write about. them. We were on tour during the funeral. We. weren't able to come. Our parents came. on behalf of us, which was really sweet. We're really close to his daughter and. his wife. Literally like a long-standing. member of the Ali and AJ team. >> longest. running.

team member. >> Yeah. >> For us like you know, so it was like it. was kind of almost like a father figure. You know, so it was very hard to come to. terms with it and then we. we felt like this could be a song, you. know. >> Yeah. >> And it's so specific like when you. listen to the song and you read the. lyrics you're like oh this is. this is very specifically about someone. >> Like the very last time we saw him. >> And not knowing [clears throat]. >> of course it would be the last time. >> But I feel like that's such a powerful. message because everyone has experienced. grief so they'll be able to like.

transport themselves probably when. they're like the last time they saw. whoever it was to them that they lost. and they What is your favorite? >> Honestly, it's kind of a tie between two. and I think it's because it has to do. with my son and then the fact that I was. leaving. Laurel Canyon to then live in Santa. Barbara like away from AJ and I wrote I. basically wrote the song with AJ about. um like moving into this new house and.

this new space and it not feeling like a. home and feeling like I was kind of like. summoning it to be this this place that. I felt welcomed in and not not like it. had like bad juju or vibes. I just was. like this isn't perfect and this isn't. right and I want to change out this. doorknob and my husband was just like. okay and I'm like pregnant and like. nesting and I'm just like frantic. I'm. like fix this this needs to be fixed and. it just and and I was like you know what. this would be a good song like. willing this to happen and to make this. space a home and I really love AJ's uh.

the way she sings the bridge um on on. that song. Um the song's called I don't. know what it is and um and I I think. that song just whenever I listen to it. it's almost kind of healing because I'm. finally at a place where the home. doesn't feel like. >> a shell. >> Yeah like a shell it feels like oh this. is a place that has good memories and I. associate like my birth and I birthed in. this living room right here and this is. this wasn't traumatic this was all kind. of what I hoped it would be. >> Oh. >> um so. >> That's beautiful. >> Yeah so I think it's like the the the.

end story of it is really great but it. was very much me struggling to find my. identity within the home and then the. other song that's like maybe uh equal to. that is a song called Dandelions which. is about Jack and we kind of wrote this. pre him being. >> Yeah. >> born which is crazy so. >> Knowing he was coming. >> Knowing he was coming and that we wanted. him to like have this message of hope. and like whatever dreams were not able. to reach he is more than capable of. reaching them himself you know. >> That is And hopefully each generation. reaches more.

>> Oh my god how crazy and cool that you. guys like one day like your son will get. to watch you perform a song about him. live and listen to it and have it. forever. Like that's such a beautiful. gift. >> I mean that is the power of song. writing. Like it really is. I think the. other thing about specifically song. writing and it's funny because I'm. learning constantly about music we've. actually already written, but I'm. learning new things about what we've. written after the fact. Like to me when. a song takes on a new life, but it had a. different meaning when you wrote it. >> Yes. >> Like I don't know what it is. Now when I.

listen to that song and I picture your. home which you've now created from the. ground up that has like a beautiful. nest. I'm like, "Whoa, this is so. different than how we came at this song. writing it thinking we're splitting up. as sisters. We're no longer going to. live in the canyon by each other. We're. like, "What are we doing? We're going to. be torn apart." And it's like, >> Yeah. >> "No, we're just shifting into other. parts of our life.". >> Wait, now that song is like shows your. growth cuz you're like now your house is. a home and now you're so happy and now. you're. >> This is what I love how song writing. teaches you something, but you wrote it. Like and a year later you're listening.

to it differently. >> So cool. That's really cool. That's how how song. writing is. And I think. >> with this record there was so much like. feminine energy around it and I think. part of that was me being pregnant. But. then part of that was us just. going through the growing pains of like. we are getting older and we don't live. down the street from each other. And we. this like we aren't living in our. childhood really anymore. We're we're. out of that phase. >> not in our 20s anymore which we just got. reminded by an executive. >> Yeah yeah, literally. >> Stop. No. >> We went to have a meeting like I'm not. being like a label meeting.

>> They literally like last week. >> The note was like we love the record. We. think it's amazing, but like we're not. here to break women in their 30s. Like. we're here to break pop stars in their. 30s. >> to be like 21 or something?". >> I was like, "I'm 35 and she's 33." I was. like, "We're still young as hell." And I. was like, "Now I'm reminded that we're. not somebody.". >> AJ after the meeting she's like, "I'm. sorry. I just I have to kind of like. like not after the meeting but the. process." After we had heard that it was. a no. So it was like, you know, we did. the meeting and then it was like, you. know, whatever it was 2 days later it. was like, "Oh, a call is coming, you. know, and we're kind of going, 'Okay, well I want I hope it's like positive.'".

And then that was the feedback. And AJ. was like, I just need to sit with this. for a minute. >> Yeah, because I'm like I've never even. thought of myself as not being in the. zeitgeist of like. >> Right, and you're also like, is the. music good or no? Like what does it have. to do with how old I am? And it's like. how many times do you think they've said. that to a man? Probably never. >> Oh, probably never. >> They're not trying to break a. what? >> I know. >> I know. Also like we're not horses. >> And yeah, like you don't need to break. us. >> And we're broken. >> And also. >> I think part of it was besides, you. know, like you said that that.

>> Yeah. >> the fact that it's maybe not ideal age. for breaking a an artist whatever in the. music industry. Um, I think part of it. was also like the album was completed. and done. They couldn't meddle and. change stuff. >> finished. It's finished. >> It's not like, "Hey, here's some demos.". And they're like, "Oh, yes, we love. track one. No to two, three, and six.". >> Change this sound and make that sound. >> And they were like, "You know, and we. wouldn't maybe go down this route like. sonically for you." I'm like, "Like us. playing music and writing the music? Like what what do you mean?". >> Oh my god, it's wild. >> So it was though a blessing that you. guys did it on your own. And you don't.

want to work with someone that doesn't. want to like doesn't want you in the way. you are exactly at right now cuz clearly. you guys said you have other records. that you never put out. This feels right. to you. So go with what feels right. >> It it's it's it's a message that that is. very pure in what it is. There's no like. gimmick behind it. So they're not like, "Oh, I can like It's harder to sell. something." It's harder to sell. something cuz they're like, "What's the. shtick?" And it's like just we're. sisters, we play music, we write, we've. been doing this since we were young. >> But I think that's like the best part. about you guys. Like I have to say.

growing up and listening to you guys, you have such incredible voices, but. hearing you perform live at my tour, I. remember like pinching my best friend. Lauren being like, "Their voices are so. beautiful." Like literally you guys have. like such incredible voices. And what I. appreciate about you guys and about this. album is actually more like that it is. real. It is obvious when people have not. written their music and when they're. told to wear the certain thing and look. the certain way, just kind of like you.

guys are describing you would go into. meetings and you feel people trying to. shift and mold you into something that. you're not. And I think if people are. looking for something in their life. music-wise that's actually going to. connect them to the real [ __ ] that. they're going through, this is more of. the album I think like people right now. are more interested in than maybe who. knows. Sure, you can love pop but like I. really think that you guys are. connecting to something that people are. loving which is authenticity. So. >> It's exactly what you're saying. Yeah, and I and I and I feel like people.

gravitate towards that. >> Yeah, that's why this show works. >> Like it's authentic. >> You can tell. Thank you. Talk and how we. feel and how we communicate with our. >> that was a missing piece. >> Yes. >> Yeah, what was really going on. >> I think it's so exciting to see you guys. like back at it and I think it also is. such a testament to like your ability to. be critical of yourselves to be like we. didn't put out certain albums because it. didn't feel right and we weren't. ourselves. And so the fact that like. this is all you, this was done at a very.

incredible vulnerable emotional time in. both of your lives. Like I think that. the world's is going to be so so so. excited to hear it and they're going to. love it. So I'm so excited for you guys. >> You are so lovely as human beings. I. know we haven't spent that much time. together but like I feel like I now know. you guys enough to be like you guys are. real ones. So thank you so much for. taking the time during the holidays and. coming and sitting down with me. You. guys are the best. >> Happy New Year. >> You could be a you could be a little you. could be A. >> OH, I'M PUTTING IT ON. >> YOU'RE THE YOUNGEST SISTER. >> DO WE LOOK LIKE we're related?

>> You are you are the youngest. >> I'm coming. I'm coming in. I'm going to. put it on. >> Love you guys. >> Love you too. >> Love you. >> [music]. [music].