Vance HUMILIATED in front of studio audience as crowd ERUPTS

I know J.D. Vance is on his book tour, but I'm not entirely sure that he. doesn't just have a humiliation fetish. >> Trump can't run again, and he'd be a. little too exciting for me anyway. So, it's either going to be you or Rubio. Here's my deal breaker for your side. >> Okay. >> Okay. Under Trump, you guys have two. outcomes in the election can be. Either. we win or they cheated. That has to. stop. And the person who. >> [applause].

[applause]. >> And that means. the person who has to stop it would be. you. or Marco. >> [laughter]. >> Can you tell me you will do that? Will. you bring us back to the middle at least. on that where we concede elections, where it's not either one of those two. options? >> Okay, Bill. So, this is where I'm. probably going to lose you here, but. here here's here's. >> happened about eight minutes ago.

>> [cheering]. [applause]. >> LOOK, I I I I DON'T THINK that we should. not concede elections, but I don't think. that's what's going on. I think that if. you go back if you go back to the. president's core argument, he was making. an argument about problems that existed. in 2020. And here's the problem that I'm. most focused on. The president I've. talked a lot about this, and I think we. we we we share a perspective here, but. set to the side the stuff that really. gets you and your audience very angry.

about whether the count was legitimate. in Georgia or Pennsylvania or any of. these other states. Is it true that. large technology companies, some of whom. have financial interests that exist. outside the United States of America, were they censoring information in the. run-up to an election? And set to the side the stuff again, the. Georgia stuff, but it is is. >> was That was litigated. Dominion. The. Fox News paid us. >> Bill, I'm I'm actually I'm I'm trying to. make the more the more middle ground. argument here. The biggest criticism I.

had of the 2020 election is that you had. technology companies that were quite. literally censoring negative information. about the left and promoting negative. information about the right. So in a. fundamental sense like if if the First. Amendment says that we have a free and. open debate and then the American people. judge based on that free and open. debate, the sense in which I think the. election in 2020 was rigged, I'm sorry, is that you had technology companies. that were putting their thumb on the. scale in a way that completely.

obliterated the real open exchange of. ideas. Now, by the way, it didn't happen. in 2024, but it happened in 2020 and it. was a problem. >> Well, you're going [applause] to get a. big pat on the back when you go back to. the White House. >> Bill Maher says under Trump it's either. we win or they cheated. That has to. stop. And of course, Vance doesn't agree. and instead devolves into this weird. tangent about tech companies censoring. information in 2020. So let's talk about. that. The story Vance is referencing, the Hunter Biden laptop story, did not.

flip the 2020 election results, full. stop. And anybody who's trying to. convince you otherwise is a complete. complete fool. Here's what happened. Twitter blocked users from sharing the. New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop. story in October of 2020. Twitter. executives have since acknowledged that. that was done in error. Fine, that is a. legitimate critique. But here's what. Vance and every Republican out there. conveniently leaves out of that story. Why were tech companies doing heightened. content moderation in October 2020 in.

the first place? Because in the months. and years before that, Republicans have. spent every waking hour screaming that. the 2020 election was about to be stolen. before a single vote had been cast. They. spent years flooding social media with. disinformation about voting machines, mail ballots, and dead voters. Election. deniers basically deployed four core. false narratives. Conspiracy theories. depicting voting machines as vehicles. for widespread fraud, false claims that. mail-voting and drop boxes were. insecure, baseless accusations of votes.

being cast by non-citizens or dead. people, and false claims of fraud in. vote counting. They built the entire. ecosystem of disinformation, and then. they act shocked that platforms started. over moderating in response to that. You. don't get to light the house on fire and. then complain that firefighters got some. water on the furniture. And more importantly, and I cannot. stress this enough, one of the. indefensible assertions that keeps. re-emerging is that social media. companies efforts to limit sharing of.

the New York Post story cost Donald. Trump the 2020 election. There is simply. zero credible evidence that this is. true. Biden won by over 7 million votes. in the popular vote and flipped multiple. states. The idea that suppressing a. story on Twitter for a couple of days, a. story that was still being covered on. Fox News, Breitbart, the New York Post. itself, and every right-wing media. outlet in America, somehow cost Trump. the election. is not a serious argument. It is cope.

It is a fairy tale that Republicans tell. themselves so that they never have to. reckon with the fact that Trump was just. a bad candidate who lost the election. Just a quick note here to say that if. you appreciate my work, which is and. always will be 100% free, a small ask is. if you could please pre-order my new. book The Day After, which explores how. Democrats must finally wield power if. they're fortunate enough to get it back. I'll also be on tour in DC, New York, and LA mid-July. You can grab tickets to. the tour and you can pre-order the book. at the same link, which I'll put on the. screen and in the post description of.

this video. You can also find them at. briantylercohen.com/book. Again, I'll never paywall a single piece. of content, but this is the one time. that I'll ask for some support for a. book that I really think meets this. moment. Thanks so much. But, let's. follow Vance's logic here, that the. purported corruption of the president's. son was potent enough to flip an. election, and that's why the evil. communist Marxist Democrats had to. suppress that story. I'd love to know, if Hunter Biden's foreign business. dealings were so catastrophic that they. constituted election interference, then.

what do we call what the Trump family. has done and is doing right now, which. was orders of magnitude worse and. continues to be orders of magnitude. worse? Like, let's start with Ivanka. In 2017, her business won preliminary approval. for three Chinese trademarks on the same. day that she dined with President Xi. uh at Mar-a-Lago. In 2018, the same week. Trump announced that he would try to. save jobs at ZTE, the Chinese. telecommunications giant, Ivanka's. business was awarded registration.

approval from the Chinese government for. five trademark applications. A month. later, her business got registration. approval for three more Chinese. trademarks on the same day that her dad. announced that he would lift sanctions. against ZTE. In all, at least 28 foreign. trademarks were approved for Ivanka. Trump while she was working in the White. House. No smoke for Ivanka by J.D. Vance. though, huh? Then there's Jared Kushner. Kushner. formed an investment firm right after. Trump left office, and 6 months later, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi. Arabia, controlled by the Crown Prince,

invested $2 billion. $2 billion. And. here's the part that should make your. jaw drop. A panel that screens. investments for the Saudi sovereign. wealth fund expressed concerns about. Kushner's new private equity firm, citing issues like the firm's. inexperience and unsatisfactory due. diligence on the firm's operations. Saudi Arabia's own advisors said this. was a bad deal, and the Crown Prince. overruled them anyway and sent $2. billion to the guy who had just spent 4. years shaping US foreign policy towards.

Saudi Arabia. As Republican Chris. Christie put it, and I don't often quote. Chris Christie, this grift from the. family is breathtaking. Or how about Don Jr.? When the Pentagon. announced a $620 million loan to a small. North Carolina startup linked to Don. Jr., ProPublica found that the request. was made by Peter Navarro, a White House. advisor and close friend of Trump Jr.'s, and of the dozens of companies under. consideration at the time, Vulcans, that. was the company, was the only deal. initiated by a top aide to the.

president, with Pentagon staff being. told to work late nights and push it. through in a matter of weeks because, and I quote, "The call came from the. White House. We have to get this done.". So again, if Vance thinks that. corruption from the president's kid is. bad enough to render a candidate. disqualifying, then why is there not a. single word when the corruption is. coming from his own side and is, again, orders of magnitude worse than what. Hunter Biden did? And the reason is. Vance is not actually offering a good.

faith excuse. He is lying to cover for. the fact that he will never rule out. crying rigged elections because that is. the entire Republican playbook, and it. always will be. Election denial is not. an accident or an aberration in today's. GOP. It is the strategy. It is the. principal tool they deploy every time. they lose, and they have zero intention. of giving it up. Look at the evidence. Nearly 300 election deniers ran for. state and congressional offices in 2022: governorships, secretaries of state,

attorneys general, positions. specifically chosen because they have. direct influence over how elections are. certified and administered. And when. those candidates lost, many election. deniers cried fraud, win or lose. Kari. Lake warned that if we don't win, there's some cheating going on before. her primary. And then when she won, she. accepted the result without a word about. the rigged system that she had been. screaming about for months. Do you see. the pattern? The system is rigged when. they lose, the system is fine when they. win. That is not a principled position,

that is a scam. And note what Vance specifically said. 2020 was rigged, but not 2024." Why not. 2024? I don't know. Let's think for a. second. Were tech companies not. moderating content in 2024? Of course. they were. Was social media not. influential in 2024? Obviously it was. The difference between 2020 and 2024 is. that Republicans won in 2024, while they. lost in 2020. That's it. That's the.

entire basis of J.D. Vance's theory of. election integrity. We won, therefore it. was fair. We lost, therefore it was. rigged. That is the intellectual. framework of a sore loser, not a. statesman. And that's why Bill Maher's question was. so important and Vance's non-answer was. so revealing. Because what Maher was. really asking is, can your party be. trusted to participate in democracy, a. functioning democracy? And what Vance. was really saying is, only if we win, which means the answer is no. They.

cannot be trusted. They will not. concede. They will not accept results. They will not stop, because the threat. of crying rigged is one of the most. powerful tools they have. It depresses voter confidence. It fires. up the base. It raises money. And it. gives them a pretext to challenge. results in court or out of court. Why. would they ever voluntarily give that. up? Bill Maher wanted a simple answer, and he didn't get one. But the. non-answer told us everything we needed. to know. >> [music].

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