UPDATE on DISBARMENT for Jeanine Pirro

We now have insane new news from the. Department of Justice where it looks. like the former US Olympian David Hearn, who the Department of Justice had. dropped charges against just days ago, may be again in the DOJ's crosshairs. I'm joined by Norm Eisen, the. inddehaticable Norm Eisen, who. represented David Hearn in this previous. case. Norm, can you explain this update. here and why the DOJ may be looking into. yet another prosecution attempt against. uh David Hearn?

Uh, I would explain it as, uh, outrageous, uh, retaliatory, harassing, and wrong. Um. Dave Hearn, who uh my colleagues and I. at Democracy Defenders Fund have been. representing, got the news uh from uh. reporters today that uh after DOJ.

dropped his case and admitted there was. no evidence, uh the US Attorney's Office in DC made. that extraordinary ary filing to dismiss. the case and the judge has dismissed the. case. Uh the according to media reports. the department of justice. [clears throat]. justice has been asked to look at. whether he could be charged again uh. perhaps with a misdemeanor.

It's so outrageous. I hope DOJ won't do. it. Davey hopes they won't do it. But my. co-consel and I, Mary Dorman at the. Washington Litigation Group and Steve. Lavine. at SPTO are ready uh to continue doing. battle. Um it's all the more reason that. we're asking the court to. dismiss Davy's case with prejudice. That.

means DOJ can never bring it again. Boy, they really provided exhibit A for our. motion with with these news leaks today. >> Quick side note here. As you know, I've. been making videos like this for a. decade now. I have never paywalled any. of my content. I never will, but this is. the one time that I'll ask for some. support. I'd like to try and hit the New. York Times bestseller list this week for. my new book, The Day After. If you. haven't yet grabbed a copy, please click. the link on this screen in the post. description in the comments or go to. brianttylercoen.com/book.

I really appreciate it. You know, this. has become a recurring theme with this. administration where they have done the. same thing that they're doing with your. client Davy Hearn to Kilmore Garcia. where they have a federal official go. into court and say that that his. deportation was the result of. administrative error and then the Trump. administration goes after him anyway. And so can you talk about the difference. here in the chasm I should say between. what what a normal DOJ should do which.

is which is try to prosecute these cases. on the merits when it's worth doing and. what this department of justice does. which is just try to make an example out. of people who ultimately just hurt. Donald Trump's ego by virtue of acting. as a counter to his narrative. Well, uh, Davey, uh, simply touched the. reflecting pool and starting the day. after he was charged, we filed motion. after motion proving that he was.

innocent. Our very first motion, July. 10th, uh, had photographic evidence, including relying on the Department of. Justice's own evidence showing that the. the pool was unchanged before and after. he touched it. Uh and then we filed. motion after motion hammering that his. innocence. was well established. Uh then DOJ, the US attorney's office.

finally agreed. That's when they. dismissed the case. Now they gave a. baloney. excuse, Brian. and they say, "Oh, we. didn't realize he was innocent until the. Department of the Interior gave us. information showing that the actual. cause of the damage was a botched, rushed installation of the new lining of. the reflecting pool. Come on. We had. established that in our filings. Everybody in America knew that was the.

cause. So, they gave that phony reason. But they did throw the case out. The. judge has signed an order saying the. case is dismissed. The only question now. is will it be dismissed with prejudice. that means can never be brought again or. without prejudice which would allow. these kinds of shenanigans that DOJ is. up to of scapegoating an innocent man. And this is more proof it should be.

dismissed with prejudice. Let's have an. end to this. But I'll tell you what, Brian, they picked on the wrong guy. My. client is a three-time Olympian, many. time world champion. uh canoist, and he's used to stress and. he's hanging in there and he's fighting. back. If they can charge him, the. government could charge anybody and. we're not going to let them get away. with this. You know, you laid out.

exactly why this case is going nowhere, why it was going nowhere in in the. criminal prosecution and why it would go. nowhere if they tried to charge Davy. Hearn with a misdemeanor. You have the. Department of Interior that came out and. already admitted, already conceded that. the reflecting pool lining coming up was. the result of a botched job, not the. result of vandalism. So, this thing is. done. And so what does the. administration get by continuing with. this circus even recognizing that the. outcome is doomed? Is it just to harass.

and cost him money and cost him stress. and make an example out of him? >> Yes. the the process is the punishment. right as you say and let's distinguish. the department of the interior provided. the information then the department of. justice US attorney's office part of the. department of justice said based on all. this uh department of the interior. information it's clear the cause of the. damage was a botched rushed vandalism.

uh but it's very embarrassing saying uh. for the administration. The president is. openly angry, disagrees with his US. attorney, Janine Piro, and now they're. going to um torment uh Dave Hearn, an. innocent man, harass him, and torment. the country. Brian, uh just, you know, imposing that um form of punishment. It's a kind of torture. Yeah. Um but uh.

Dave Hearn is tough and as difficult and. stressful as this is, he is fighting. He's going to prove his innocence. His. lawyers are going to stand by him come. what may. And the American people are. standing by him. And even Trump's allies. are saying this is too much. Uh so it. exemplifies the cruelty of this. authoritarian regime and its impact on.

average people. It's horrible. Norm on. the initial idea of the indictment even. existing for Davy Hearn that came as the. result of Janine Piro bringing an. indictment that was based on false. pretenses. Bringing indictment that she. herself claimed she had quote tremendous. evidence for that we now know didn't. exist. And so I I know there's been some. talk of disbarment of fi filing a. complaint with the bar association for. Janine Piro. What are next steps on that. front? >> Uh well um right now Brian we're focused.

on getting the case dismissed with. prejudice. Um all legal options are on. the table. I think some of the important. ones [clears throat]. are to demand an independent. investigation of what happened here. this miscarriage of justice. Uh our. friend Jamie Rascin, uh you know him well, also champion of. justice. Uh he's called for an. independent investigation. Um and the.

Senate has done the same. Senator White. House followed this case uh closely. together with Senator Heinrich uh asking. for that. We need Office of Inspector. General Investigations. We need office. of professional responsibility review. and other legal remedies too. There's. nothing American law abores more than. targeting an innocent person. But for.

now um my focus is uh getting this. dismissal with prejudice and then we'll. uh consider what other review uh and. steps are necessary. Everything's on the. table. Well, I will put a link right. here on the screen and also in the post. description and for those who are. listening on the podcast in the show. notes to Democracy Defenders Fund uh to. support the invaluable litigation that. you're bringing on behalf of not just. folks like Davy Hearn but Americans. across the country. So, thank you for.

the work that you're doing as always and. thanks for taking the time today. >> Thank you, Brian. Always great being. with you. [music].