Pam Bondi drops SHOCK update on Epstein files

This is Democracy Watch. Mark, at long. last, we finally have an update on the. Epstein files. This one comes direct. from Pam Bondi herself to a judge. Can. you explain what happened in court? >> Yeah, it's more excuses. It's excuse, excuse, excuse. You know what? It's not. It's not the Epstein files. So, another. letter from Pam Bondi to the federal. judge who is overseeing the Gla Maxwell. case and and the release of these uh. these records pursuant to this uh this. new law by Congress. By the way, all the. records were supposed to come out.

December 19th, right? Like, so they keep. sending these letters saying, "Your. honor, we're doing a really great job. Let us tell you what a great job we're. doing. We're reviewing records, and. we've got lots of people reviewing the. records, and we're doing a phenomenal. job." But here's my question, Pam. Where. the are the Epstein files? Okay, enough with the letters. Enough with the. self- congratulation. Enough with the. you have hundreds of lawyers reviewing. millions of pages. Where are the Epstein.

files? And you know, Brian, if you look. into the background of all this, you. know that this is just another way of. delaying because Pam Bondi last year on. February 27th said she wanted all the. Epstein files in her office. on July on. July in July of last year, she and Cash. Patel put out a a statement out of the. Department of Justice that said they had. reviewed 300 gigabytes of records and. they had collected all these records and. they were like, we keep hearing all we.

keep hearing is they're reviewing and. reviewing and yet all they produced is. 12,000 out of a couple out of a couple. million. >> So, at what point does the judge. actually see this letter by Pam Bondi. and say, "No, like these excuses aren't. going to fly. I'm I'm tired of being. jerked around here and we need these. files actually released before, you. know, we go to the next step, which you. know, we we had spoken about the. prospect of of Thomas Massie and Roana. trying to push for a special master. But. but when at what point does the judge.

not accept these excuses being put. forward by Pam Bondi? >> Look, isn't this the problem that we. have been talking about over and over. again? Not just in this case, but in a. whole bunch of cases. you know, there. was just a judge that said uh that he. wanted the head of ICE to show up in his. courtroom because uh you know, there had. been, you know, violations of his court. orders. Like over and over again, we. keep hearing judges saying, "Oh, you've. been disregarding my orders. Oh, you've. been disregarding, in this case, a.

federal statute." And you and I keep. doing these videos and saying, "Okay, when is a judge going to finally say. enough is enough?" Right? I don't care. what the excuses are. I don't even need. you to show up in my courtroom. I'm just. going to impose the as you say the next. step whether it's in some cases. sanctions in case like this appointed of. special master like but the judiciary is. bound up in these traditions of assuming. that when the department of justice. tells them something Yeah. that they. take it at face value. They take it that.

it's good faith. So when you have the. attorney general filing a letter saying. we've got you know we've moved heaven. and earth to review all these records. the judge you know thinks okay well. they've done they've moved heaven and. earth rather than saying I don't. understand uh Ms. Bondi General Bondi. you know Congress passed a law and told. you this was your top priority. So stop. telling us that you're patting yourself. on the back for making this a priority. when Congress told you this was your top. priority for the next 30 days. And I. should note by the way that you've been.

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delay tactics because at the end of the. day, there's nothing in the law that. forc that that imposes any consequences. or forces um any enforcement. And so and. so as long as she can just kind of jerk. around a judge, then she knows that. that's the worst that can happen, you. know, given the fact that that the law. didn't include any consequences. >> Well, I mean, yes and no. I mean, the. law didn't say if the Department of. Justice violates the law, right? It.

didn't say that, but it did give a. deadline. And you know, Congressman Kana. and Congressman Massie gave the judge a. pretty good solution, right? And not one. that is punitive towards the Department. of Justice. I mean, you know, I'd be. more punitive towards the Department of. Justice, but they just said, "Look, if. DOJ can't get it done, if in fact the. dog keeps eating their homework, if in. fact they've got too many records, too. many places, and they keep finding new. ones, and they don't have the lawyers, you know, rather than belly aching about.

it, let's just hire a special master, appoint a special master, you know, probably a retired judge, someone very. well respected. They can tap into a lot. of resources that apparently DOJ can't. figure out how to tap into. um and and. you know and get these files released. And I thought that was a pretty good. solution. And it's a shame that the. judge didn't agree with it or didn't. think that he had the power to agree. with it because in these times, you. know, where we have extraordinary. actions by the Department of Justice, we.

have extraordinary actions by the White. House. We have a White House that. controls the Department of Justice. And. we have a White House and Department of. Justice that clearly don't want you, the. people watching this video, to see the. Epstein files. Like that's the bottom. line. Like they don't want you seeing. them because they know that if those. Epstein files are released and you set. aside the legacy media and Lord knows. what they'll do to like, you know, gussy. it all up. People like Brian People like. Brian will give you the Epstein files. Like one of the things I love about.

Brian is he shows you the record, then. he talks about it. So like he'll put the. Epstein files on the screen and then. then brief you on it and that's what Pam. Bondi doesn't want. >> Mark, what about the fact that the DOJ. keeps engaging in other projects and you. and I have spoken about the fact that. DOJ is trying to get voter files, for. example. So the DOJ clearly has other. resources to expend on on all of this. other the legality of the. legality of which is suspect at best. But can a judge take into account the. fact that the DOJ out of one side of.

their mouth is saying, "Hey, we don't. have enough resources to get the Epstein. files to you despite the fact that they. were due 7 weeks ago." But out of the. other side of their mouth, they can say. the DOJ has plenty of resources to be. able to demand the voter file, uh, the. voter roles from, you know, 24 different. states and and and 10 other Republican. states, which by the way, you are. litigating in 24 different jurisdictions. across the country. But can a judge take. that into account when Pam Bondi uh. offers up this bogus excuse that there.

aren't enough resources to get this. thing out uh despite the fact that it. was due weeks and weeks and weeks ago. >> Yeah. Look, the judge should take all of. that into account. And look, the judge. should just take into account the fact. that Congress passed this law, >> right? [laughter] Congress's job. It's. Congress's job to set the priorities for. the executive branch. The whole point of. the executive branch is to make sure the. law is is take care of the law is. faithfully executed, right? So, it's. actually not DOJ's decision to. prioritize this versus that. That's. Congress's job. And Congress gave them a. deadline. And their obligation was to. meet it. And that might mean not.

bringing more voter suppression cases. It might mean not bringing uh more cases. to try to access voter files to to screw. with the 2026 election. It might mean. not, you know, dedicating more lawyers. to figure out how to, you know, send two. year olds and fivey olds, you know, to. to to wherever they're sending them, right? like like there's it's a bit the. Department of Justice has a lot of. lawyers. I mean, it's got thousands and. thousands of lawyers. And by the way, there are FBI agents who could be. reviewing these files and they've got. lots and lots of those. There are FBI.

analysts who could be reviewing those. and they've got lots of those, right? Like there are and then there are. lawyers at other government agencies. that could be tapped. I mean, maybe some. of the agents in ICE or the lawyers in. ICE could be veetailed to review the. Epstein files. I mean, you know, like. rather than doing what they're doing in. Minneapolis, there's there's no shortage. of people in the Department of Justice. and in the government to review, let's. just call it 2 million records. There.

are lots of civil cases, right, handled. by private law firms that have more than. two million records that have to be. reviewed and they get them reviewed much. faster than is going on here. And the. biggest law firm is not as big as the. federal government. >> Right, Mark? By the way, towards that. end, didn't Donald Trump make deals with. some of these big law? >> I mean, he he's owed all of this proono. work anyway. Why not take advantage now? >> Yeah. They're not so interested in the. big law firms spending uh proono time.

reviewing the Epstein files to get those. put out, huh? >> Yeah. Last question here, and this is. this is kind of uh you know, zooming out. a little bit. In your estimation, do you. think that we will see the full breadth. of the Epstein files released? So, that's a great question and it's one. that I get all the time. People are. worried that we will never see the worst. of the Epstein files because there will. be an effort to destroy them or withhold. them. I don't think they're going to get. destroyed. I do think we're going to.

wind up having a fight over records. being withheld. And here's the thing, Brian. Remember just in the first 1% and. that's all that's been released. Actually, less than 1%. Yeah, >> even there remember in the first. [clears throat] rounds of production how. many records were redacted in like. really extensive ways that everybody was. like pointing to the statute and being. like you're breaking the law because. you're not allowed to redact anything. other than victim names. Like I don't. think those games are behind us. I think. those games are actually much more in. front of us. You know, one of the things.

in this letter that they mention are. videos and that they are redacting. videos. Like, you know, you can redact a. video to to take out the images of the. women and girls who are victims. Something tells me that the redaction. and the withholding on those videos is. going to be broader than that. I don't. know that, but I suspect it. I don't. think the White House and the Department. of Justice are going to let the most. incriminating records out. forget about. victims. Again, we got to protect the.

victims. But I think that Donald Trump. is not here for that. And if you ask me. why it's taking them so long and why. they keep doing this wheel spinning, I. think it's because, and again, it's just. my opinion. I don't know this. It's the. Department of Justice is in a state of. semiparalis. They are reviewing the. records. The higher-ups want to know. what are in them. Remember, we had those. reports going back over the summer when. the FBI did their review. Remember there. were all these reports the higher-ups. wanted to know what they were finding. and not finding. Like I think that there. is something going on in the push and.

pull of this review that is not just. about the actual review of the records. It has to do with what records they want. released in what order and what sequence. with what. And I think when this is all. said and done and they say they are. complete, mark my words, there will. still be records that were not released. and there will still be records that. have been redacted inappropriately. Well, again, highly recommend for. anybody looking to follow excellent. coverage of exactly this story and other. legal news, other voting rights news, other democracy news. Democracy Docket.

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