OMG: JD Vance issues JAW-DROPPING announcement

I'm joined now by the co-host of. PodSaveAmerica, Tommy Vietor. Tommy, we. had a pretty disgusting clip surface. today with who else but J.D. Vance. Let's see what he said today. >> Do you plan to apologize to the family. of Alex Sprague? >> For what? >> For, you know, labeling him an assassin. with ill intent. >> Well, again, I just. described to you what I said about Alex. Sprague, which is that he's a guy who. showed up with ill intent to an ICE. protest. >> it is determined if it's determined that. his civil rights were violated by this. FBI investigation, will you apologize to. that family? >> So, if if this hypothetical leads to.

that hypothetical leads to another. hypothetical, will I do a thing? >> So, Tommy, that was J.D. Vance being. asked about his initial response to the. Alex Sprague shooting, where of course. he called him an assassin. He was part. of that, you know, cadre of Trump administration. officials who viewed their role in all. of this as not getting to the bottom of. what happened, but instead painting a. narrative before. before anybody was able to actually see. the facts. So, your reaction first and. foremost to what we heard from Vance. >> Yeah, I mean, J.D. Vance is the smear.

merchant in chief. He gleefully. retweeted Stephen Miller's claim that. Alex Sprague was an assassin who quote. tried to murder federal agents. Before that, J.D. Vance called Renee. Good a deranged leftist. Now, actually, she was just a mother of three who was. out observing ICE activities. And so, what you know, the pattern from J.D. Vance is he is willing to say and do. anything that gets him more power or. that keeps him in power. And I think. that is what we're seeing here. And that. is why he is detestable. He's also.

whiny. He acts like he is the victim. here for being asked the question, not. the individual who was murdered. And I hope that Republican voters find. him as repulsive as we all do and that. he is not the Democratic nominee in. 2028, but God, that guy sucks. >> I want to talk about that for a moment. And and I don't I don't do horse race. politics, certainly not about 2028. because, you know, there's so much stuff. that we have to figure out before 2028. to even have the luxury of a free and. fair election in 2028. But just on this. idea of what we're seeing from J.D. Vance, I mean, to your to your point,

like he is utterly contemptible. He also. doesn't have the same charisma that and. I know people are going to scoff at. this, but the same charisma that Trump. has at least with Republican voters. Do. you think that that reads when you see. stuff like this? >> I do. I really look, Donald Trump, I. realize people hate him, but before he. was in politics, he was one of the most. famous people in the world. He was his. his brand was a billionaire. His brand. was the guy on The Apprentice. The there's a lot of people who still. know him as that. That it's. aspirational, right? Like people want to.

be rich. They want to be famous. They. want to be successful. That was the the. image he sold to the world. Trump also, like when you see him on the stump, yeah, he's nuts sometimes and a racist. and a misogynist and he can be awful and. he does the weave and pretends it's like. a. it's a strategy, but he can be funny. Uh he makes the crowd laugh. He. entertains them. Like people stick. around for hours and hours to listen to. this guy. I can't imagine listening to. J.D. Vance read anything longer than a. menu. It sounds like hell on earth. So, yeah, he sucks. He's got no rizz.

>> And he's got no rizz. Well, look, this. this is kind of like one piece of bad. news in what has been a decidedly. horrendous week for the Trump. administration as far as the news is. concerned because aside from, you know, J.D. digging his own grave on the Alex. Pretty shooting and kind of the ICE. the ICE overreach that we're seeing. right now, we also had a brand new. tranche of the Epstein files released. This was I believe the biggest one yet. Trump has been named in there God knows. how many times. There's There's like. memes going around the internet that say.

Trump is named in the Epstein files more. than Harry Potter's name pops up in the. Harry Potter series, like all seven. books of Harry Potter. >> Who counted that? That's That's amazing. What is that? >> Ho- hopefully some AI. Like if if AI is. needed for anything, that's what AI is. needed for. >> Thank you, Claude, or whoever, yeah. >> Yeah, that's that's where our that's. where our water is going. Um. but but one of the points that I that I. think worth noting in this latest batch. of the Epstein files is just how many. Trump administration officials were. listed in there. We had Kevin Warsh who.

is Trump's new pick for the Fed chair. We had Howard Lutnick, Trump himself, and and just this this massive. >> Elon Musk was in there quite a bit. Were Was any of this surprising to you. given the fact that, you know, the Trump. administration has been doing its level. best to claim that in fact the Democrats. are the ones who really got hurt by this. latest release? >> Yeah, I look I I was sort of. surprised in a few ways. I was surprised. by like the totality of Epstein's. relationships and how global his network.

was. Like the guy the guy's literally. friends with multiple royal families. The guy was getting forwarded readouts. of conversations that were happening in. 10 Downing Street at the height of like. the the Eurozone debt crisis. He was friends with folks in the Gulf. He was helping the former Prime Minister. of Israel plan his post. uh government life. Like this guy was. really dialed in. But on top of that though, he there's. all these emails where he is sending. like disgusting crude commentary about.

women. And then there's other emails. where he's sending messages that seem. like they're two with his victims that. are incredibly threatening and cruel and. manipulative. So like this guy I like. the the the web he we we wove is broader. than I thought. And like the depth of. the depravity of the people around him. is far worse than I ever could have. imagined. >> Yeah, there was a there was one email in. particular that really that really kind. of shocked me. And and and that's that's. given what we already know about what. these emails are. And we can put that.

that email up here on the screen. It's. it's from redacted to Jeffrey Epstein. He said, "Thanks for a good time last. night. The littlest girl was a little. naughty." And and what I mean obviously. the contents of that email aside because. the depravity is is on full display with. those contents. But, what was striking. was the fact that the sender was. redacted. And we've been told by Deputy. Attorney General Todd Blanche that the. DOJ is not looking to prosecute anybody. for the Epstein files. Uh that there.

were apparently no co-conspirators. This. whole thing was just a sex trafficking. ring where Jeffrey Epstein trafficked. girls nowhere to no one. And yet we have. stuff like this. Notwithstanding the fact that the DOJ. didn't redact plenty of names in these. files. Like there were victims' names, there were images that were not. redacted, but they had plenty of time to. redact the senders of an of an email to. Jeffrey Epstein saying, "Hey, thanks for. thanks for a good time at the hands of. your littlest girl last night." And uh. so just you know, what what did you.

think when you saw that? >> I Look, I mean, I just think the hard. part about all of this is despite. getting, you know, millions of new. documents sort of released by DOJ, I. just don't trust anything they say. Like. Kash Patel is still claiming that there. was nothing actionable in these files. that could have led to the prosecution. of of other individuals that Epstein. trafficked. How How is that possible? Um. Kash Patel is also out there saying uh. that he still thinks Jeffrey Epstein. killed himself. Like really? We I just. feel like I just I don't believe a word.

they said. I don't believe that they. weren't spending the vast majority of. their time doing everything possible to. cover up for Donald Trump and the people. around him, whether that is redacting. documents, destroying documents, making. sure some things like never saw the the. light of day. And you know, like Thomas. Massie and Ro Khanna, the members of. Congress who authored the legislation. that led to this release, are going to. try to do their best to review um the. the redacted portions. uh that were withheld, but like that's a. monumental task and and they just don't.

know what might still be hidden from. them by these liars. >> Yeah, so I spoke with Jamie Raskin on. the Judiciary Committee, and he said. that Todd Blanche has agreed to meet. Um. also spoke with Ro Khanna. Also said. that Todd Todd Blanche has agreed to. meet so that they can have some some. visibility into these files. Um of. course, there was also an effort by Ro. Khanna and Thomas Massie to go to court. and get a special master to be able to. oversee all of this stuff. So that would. basically take it out of the hands of. the DOJ and into the hands of the court.

because the court would directly oversee. the special master. Um that effort. failed because there wasn't a lawsuit so. there was nothing to compel. to. to legally compel the DOJ to have to do. this. But. >> Interesting, yeah. >> Um there there are some folks who do. have standing. Like for example, I mean. there are arguments that Thomas Massie. and Ro Khanna themselves do have. standing if they want to bring an actual. lawsuit. The survivors have standing if. they want to bring a lawsuit. So this. special master question is is not over. And I think frankly, given the way that. the administration has comported itself.

with regards to these files, getting it. in the hands of a special master is is. not just is not just um something that. the that these members of Congress. should seek to do. It's it's absolutely. necessary because this administration's. been engaged in this cover-up for the. better part of a year. I mean we found. out last February by Pam Bondi that the. files were quote on her desk and she was. just waiting to review them. And and. it's been a year and we still don't have. the files. Um we also know for example. that that there were other.

co-conspirators thanks to emails that. were written by uh by prosecutors within. the DOJ that say oh that say that there. were 10 co-conspirators. Um you know, guys in New York and Ohio. and and Florida. And so we know this. stuff exists and this administration has. done its level best to to make sure to. kind of obfuscate all of this stuff. So. they have no credibility left. The only. way to actually get to have some shred. of credibility left is to make sure that. it gets in the hands of a special. master. >> Yeah, there needs to be some sort of. independent review. I I'm I think that's.

a great idea but you know, I'm sort of. agnostic to what form it takes. ultimately. Like the good news in the. near term is there are so many documents. now in the public domain. The Trump administration can vet them. for obvious things like removing Donald. Trump's name or whatever, but they can't. vet the kind of information or leads. that those documents generate for a. great investigative journalist who want. to continue pulling this thread. So as. much as Trump says like the story is. over, we need to move on. Like I think. it's just beginning. Also, eventually. hopefully Democrats will win back the.

White House. We will be in charge of the. Department of Justice. There should be. some sort of independent review or. congressional hearings or I don't know. 9/11 style commission like whatever the. form might be. to ensure that you know what you just. described happens which is some sort of. independent honest review. And also. hopefully like a lot of these documents. probably existed in a bunch of different. places. You know like Trump can try to. burn them at DOJ, but are they sitting. in a New York FBI office somewhere? Are. there documents in Florida? Like we just. don't know.

>> Well, consider too. Consider too if we. find out that there were efforts by this. administration to obfuscate. what actually exists and and protect. these people from from prosecution, they. can put themselves in a position where. they become accessories after the fact. And so if you have DOJ officials, Todd. Blanche, Pam Bondi, just because they're. they are federal officials now. First of. all, they're going to lose that. protection, you know, the protection of. Trump's DOJ once they leave office. And. if in fact a crime was committed to.

prevent these people from from facing. the accountability that they deserve, any prosecutors can bring these charges. against them. I spoke with both. Keith Ellison and Rob Bonta, the AGs in. Minnesota and California about the fact. that you had members of the DOJ who were. pre-clearing these ICE agents. And if in. fact we find out, you know, that that. they committed state crimes because. we're never going to see any. accountability at the federal level, but. if they committed state crimes by. assassinating Rene Good and Alex Preddy. and instead that they sought to to.

pre-clear these guys and prevent any. real accountability. Um those people, the Todd Blanches of the world, Pam. Bondis of the world, can themselves be. in a position where they get charged. with accessory after the fact, uh you. know, if if they're in front of an. actual prosecutor. >> Yeah, and your point about state charges. is important because sure, Trump can. give them pardons for federal crimes. Uh but that's a tough political sell, right? It's like, "Oh, I I preemptively. pardon you for anything to do with the. Epstein files, Pam Bondi." Like, nothing. shady there. But uh she he cannot pardon. them for state crimes. So, you know.

They should uh worry about that. >> And finally, um Tommy, one more point. here. And that is that we found out also. in their effort to kind of get us to, you know, diffuse our attention onto. something else, that Republicans are. going to be hauling Bill and Hillary. Clinton in to uh to testify in front of. Congress. So, uh do you think this is. going to finally satisfy their their. desperation to get our attention off of. Trump administration officials and onto. the Democrats, um in light of Trump. basically trying to shoehorn in this.

idea that this is not a Republican. problem, it's not a Trump problem, it's. a Democrat problem? >> Yeah, I mean, I they can try. I just I. sort of think it's just more likely to. keep the entire issue in the news. Um. maybe there's really uncomfortable. questions for Bill Clinton. Uh if that's. the case, I don't really care. Um he is. [clears throat] being treated. differently than others. Um it it is. certainly unfair that Bill and Hillary. Clinton have to testify and Donald Trump. does not or, you know, others in the. administration do not. It's clearly a.

partisan agenda-driven exercise, but if. he has information that he can provide. about Epstein and his crimes and his. co-conspirators, then he should do that. And I just, you know, nine Democrats. voted uh to hold Bill and Hillary. Clinton in contempt. Clearly, uh Dems. are far more focused on actual. accountability and, you know, getting. the victims some truth and. reconciliation here and some justice. Uh. Republicans just want a political. weapon, but whatever. >> That's That's a great point because. think the the Trump Trump team thinks.

that if they can just get Bill in there, that it will reflect poorly off of. Democrats. But Democrats don't care. about Bill Clinton. Democrats don't care. about anybody who is involved in the. Epstein files. Like the the cultish. mentality that Trump has is just him. projecting how he views the Republican. Party, rightfully so. And so he knows. that if he can just like or he thinks. that if he can get a a person with a D. next to their name and get them in the. spotlight and prove that they've done. something wrong, then the whole party. will somehow rally to their defense and. it will just kind of.

filter down into the, you know, into the. the the usual reductive D versus R. fight. But no D's care about Bill. Clinton or anybody who is involved in. the Epstein files. And this certainly. not in the same way that you have a lot. of Republicans rallying to Trump's. defense. So if there are any Democrats, them. Like we we don't care. No. one's rallying around anybody who's done. anything wrong or who is implicated in. any way in the Epstein files. And so I. think that this is him thinking it's. going to, you know, this is going to be. some some.

silver bullet, but but it's not. >> Yeah, I I got There was a Politico. interviewed some of the Democrats who. voted to hold the Clintons in contempt. Uh Congresswoman Sara Jacobs said the. following, "Anyone should be held. accountable regardless of political. party." And then they asked her. whether Democrats would have been less. likely to hold a former president of. their own party in contempt two decades. earlier. She said, "I don't know, man. I. was in kindergarten.". >> [laughter]. >> Perfect response. Like who cares? >> Wait, look, I actually I'm I'm fine with.

this, not only because I don't care. about Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or. any Democrat or any Republican or any. human being who is involved with Jeffrey. Epstein, but also because if Republicans. want to establish a precedent where you. can haul former presidents and their. wives in front of Congress to answer for. the Epstein files, that's fine. Like I I. I I I'm I'm actually in favor of that. precedent. So, haul as many people in. front of Congress as you want, uh hold. anybody accountable who is who is. engaged in any type of wrongdoing, and.

and look, there will be a world where. Trump is no longer in office. And if. this is how he wants to spend his uh. post-presidency life, then more power to. him. >> Enjoy. Enjoy, sir. >> Enjoy. Well, to that end, I think that a lot of. focus among the right right now is. trying to get people to, you know, focus. on something else, to to distract. everybody by pointing at Bill Clinton or. whatever it may be. This is a concerted. effort on the right. Our job as members. of progressive independent media is to. push back against that. So, a small step. that everybody watching can take right. now to help amplify these voices and and.

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