Newsom drops Epstein BOMB on Trump

I'm joined now by the governor of. California, Gavin Newsom. Thanks for. joining me. >> Good Good to be with you in person. >> I appreciate it. First, I have to ask a. question to get this out of the way. Is. there anything you want to let us know. about aliens? Any Any information you. want to divulge? >> Go viral. Go viral. Uh you know, I I actually. prefer to keep that between myself and. sort of my my state security team. >> Well, I I I feel like I'm I'm obliged to. ask a follow-up question. Are you sure. there's nothing. >> I I just There's only so much the public. can absorb. So, I just want to be. careful. >> I do have a serious question. If there.

was something, would would you know? Would they tell you something? You know, that's just something I just wish not to. discuss publicly. I I don't want You. know, you giving this open-ended answer. is not going to help me. >> I'll never forget I I asked some other. presidents some other living presidents. the same exact question, but I never got. a good You see, you got you got a much. more revelatory answer from Obama than. these others. They're tight-lipped. >> Tight-lipped. >> You know, so I don't know. I don't know. if that leads more conspiracies or or. eliminates them. >> It It does. It does. >> does. Yeah, it definitely does. But,

they have I say people believe in like. chemtrails. So, they honestly they like. you're part of that conspiracy on. chemtrails. >> Conspiracy theories are the currency of. the internet right now. So, everything. um And by the way, including why we're. dressed exactly the same today, which. you know, I mean We'll leave it We'll. We'll just leave it leave it vague. Um. okay, so let's let's jump into uh news. of the day right now. We obviously have. a lot going on, but a major story that's. kind of uh been circulating on both the. left and the right side of the aisle is. the issue the continued issue of the. DOJ's throttling of the investigation uh.

into Jeffrey Epstein. Uh recently, James. Comer decided to haul the Clintons in. front of uh the Oversight Committee to. testify. Do you think that Donald Trump. should be uh in that in front of that. committee testifying? >> Well, I mean, what's good for the goose. by definition. Come on. I mean, you. know, they set the tone the tenor. Comer's got to do it. Or if he doesn't. do it, the next administration the next. Oversight Committee needs to do it. By. definition. Come on. They set that They. have set the standard. They lowered the. bar, raised the bar, depending on one's.

perspective, and they made a mistake in. that respect. I mean, what they put out. today and yesterday as relates to some. of the videos and. how Hillary Clinton, you know, ran. circles around him. Even Bill did is, you know, indicative of the mistake that. Comer continues to make as relates to. his oversight functions. But, you know, by definition, the guy who appears more. than anyone else in the Epstein files. and he's more responsible in more ways. and more days for more of the distrust. and mistrust, the redactions, and the. questions, the president himself.

must appear and testify. Why do you think that Comer was so. hell-bent on trying to bring Bill. Clinton in front of the committee or and. Hillary Clinton in front of the. committee? >> the They I mean, it's the Pizzagate. folks. Back to your conspiracy in the. open question. These are the These folks. who just They thrive and live in that. muck. Uh in that sort of dark corner of. the world we're living in. I mean, the. sort of Q world, etc. And so, in many ways, it made sense. Plus, they. want to embarrass the Clintons. They. want to make this a Democratic thing. They want to do it through the lens of.

the prism of a political dynamic. And. they want to move the bright lights away. from Donald Trump. They're doing his. bidding, period, full stop. They're not. supine. They are activists in the cause. of protecting Trump and Trumpism and the. MAGA movement. And he is I mean, he's just so. He's He's so bad at it. That's the difference here. >> We can land it there. Yeah, exactly. And. he's he's just I mean, he is he's. flailing. He's only got a few more. months. That's the saving grace here. Look out when the shoe's on the other.

foot. When you got guys that are. approximate to where we are, Robert. Garcia and these others, they know what. the hell they're doing. And so, you know, these folks better. strap on. They better put Get ready for. Make sure they're not deleting anything. Make sure they got lawyers. And make. sure that they're prepared to testify. because a hell of a lot of a lot of. people are going to be brought in, including the DOJ itself. What would. your message be to all of these Maga. verse figures, the Cash Patels, Dan. Bongino's, Pam Bondis, Alina Habas, all.

of these members of Congress, these. these senators who all through their. even J.D. Vance who threw their weight. behind this idea that the only way to. usher in some degree of transparency, some degree of accountability was to. elect Donald Trump because they were the. ones who would expose this criminal. cabal. of pedophiles who wrote to the the. highest levels of government and then. you've you've got Donald Trump in. office, you've all these people who. built their brands off of off of. condemning what was happening in the. government who are then put in positions. of power like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

and all of a sudden we are immersed in. yet another government-wide cover-up the. very one that they that they claim to. condemn. >> Yeah, the difference is their. fingerprints are all over this and. they're caught. Um you know, in in plain. sight. Uh so they're all going to be. held to their own standards, their own. standards of accountability, the ones. that they were purporting and promoting, those are the ones they were trying to. hold everyone else to. Now they are part. of the problem. They're not on the. outside looking in. Bongino what Bongino. whatever is he's back on the outside uh. but he whiffed, failed and so he either. was lying, knowingly lying the entire.

time. He's yet to apologize for lowing. knowingly blatantly lying about. everything or he's completely in on that. cover-up. And that will be uncovered. The difference is there will be. accountability on the other side. Now. the only thing that can stop that and. it's something we need to be open. uh our eyes wide open to is the fact. that these guys could all get. presidential pardons on the way out. And. I could see a scenario where Trump right. now is deleting everything. Not just. deleting things, literally removing any, just scrubbing everything.

Uh and. >> we already found out that there's three. files uh that contain information about. uh about allegations against Trump. himself that miraculously uh. conveniently didn't manage to get. released. >> Yeah, so look, nothing about everything. it's not complicated. I mean this is. it's just. he's he has done everything he could to. stop these things from being made. public. So by definition there are. things in there that imply that he is. part of the problem. Something big.

is in those files. Period. Full stop. It's not complicated. This is not it's. there's no other rational conclusion and. it's always about him. He doesn't mind. laying everybody else out. He may be a. little uncomfortable about it. particularly if they're business. partners particularly if there's part of. the grift and they're going to be part. of the larger economic opportunities for. him personally but at the end of the day. it's always about him. So there's something in the files that. implicate him in a profound and outsized. way because Trump can absorb a lot.

and figures he can shapeshift, change. the conversation, shock and awe, move to. you know, advance a different agenda and. then move the media focus elsewhere but. even he recognizes whatever's in there. is so immovable in terms of the impact. and damage it would do to him that he. cannot. allow it to be made public. Well, it's. interesting you say that because there. was uh some sound released by Marjorie. Taylor Greene who kind of revealed that. Donald Trump told her that his friends. would get hurt. Which struck me as.

bizarre because. Trump Trump's the main character in all. of the activities that he participates. in. Like he. since when has Donald Trump done. anything to protect anybody else not. named Donald Trump. And so when he tells. Marjorie Taylor Greene we couldn't. possibly release the files because I. wouldn't want my dear friends to get. hurt. And so all I'll jump on I'll fall. on the grenade here. Like like me me. I'll. >> Large ass. Like so do you buy that idea. that Donald. >> again and I only. way I buy that as a. component part a partial.

uh rationale is there's an economic. interest that's tied to that. To your point he'll he'll he'll lay. anyone out. He'll he'll run anyone over. but if there's an economic benefit of. not doing it. Uh if there's some residual damage that. could incur from it, uh he won't. So, it's again, it's just not that. complicated. We tend to overcomplicate. these things. What's interesting is the. some members of the Republican Party are. waking up to it and the fact that the. Republican Party itself even would least.

what they did release is remarkable. because the public opinion is just so. overwhelming that they could not even. resist the reality of their political. situation and they had to buck their. dear leader. So, I want to switch gears. a little bit here. Uh you've written the. new book, Young Man in a Epstein is not. in it. So, if you were looking for. anything on Epstein, it's not in this. book. And this is this is out for sale. So, for anybody looking to to purchase a. copy, again the title is Young Man in a. Hurry and you can get it anywhere books. are sold. There's one particular excerpt.

that I wanted to that I wanted to read. 10 months earlier, Bush had made the. decision to invade Iraq after his. administration's historic campaign of. lies convinced the American people that. Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass. destruction. We could not extricate. ourselves from that costly conflict for. another 17 years. And yet here we are in. March of 2026 finding ourselves on the. the doorsteps of another war in the. Middle Eastern country. And so, given. what you've written about there and what. we all lived through. during the Bush era, what do you what do. you foresee happening as Donald Trump.

continues to kind of jump headfirst into. this thing clearly with no plan? Which. is remarkable because how badly that was. implemented, adopted, and initiated, at. least there was some. vague attempt. at building a coalition and a rationale. >> I forgot who it was. Somebody said at. least at least Bush had the had the the. decency to to to have a better lie. >> lie, yeah. I mean or or at least put. someone else up there to do it, poor. pal. But he tried to build an alliance. and he at least tried to build a.

rationale and try to get the public. buying them. Uh Trump didn't do any of. that. And so, it's consistent by the. way, as you know, he's had more military. air strikes than Biden did in his entire. 4 years in his first year. >> Right. And and that includes, I mean, there there are there are military. actions not just in Iran, but Venezuela, Somalia, Nigeria, Libya. Yeah, and. people forget that. It's the guy who. promoted none of that. So, once again, Trump is consistent in. his inconsistency, the fact that he said. he would never do something like this.

and lied about it. J.D. Vance did same. Uh people like Tulsi Gabbard did the. same. You go through the list of all. these MAGA guys. They lied. And so, that's unsurprising, but here we are uh. with now regional war. We've got the. Gulf states under attack. We've got our. allies under attack. Uh we now have oil. prices starting to skyrocket. We got. Strait of Hormuz, Hormuz, which has 20%. of the world's oil blasting through it. with not a lot of activity. We've seen. the market volatility. Uh we're now. going to pay the price. Six uh members. of the military have lost their lives.

Uh others likely are going to lose their. lives. Uh and again, Trump can't land on. a rationale. No imminent threat. Yes, there was an imminent threat. Oh, inevitably there would have been because. Israel was going to go anyway, says. Rubio. And then they shapeshift again, say, well, no, it was about the nuclear. program. Wait, you just said it was. obliterated. So, that doesn't fall. through. No, it's about the missiles. No, it's about the proxies and the. militia. No, it's about the navy. Uh. they cannot simply land on any. rationale. And so, it's a remarkable. remarkable expression.

uh of sort of this cluelessness in terms. of foreign policy, but the profound. consequences in real time, unintended. and intended that we're all going to. have to suffer through. Why do you. presume he actually did this? So, there's a few Look, if I was going to give my best attempt. to sort of give a rational theory of the. case, >> Yeah. you know, it wasn't. >> this might be imbuing rationality where. there exists none. >> Where there is it. That that. after October 7th and what's happened in. terms of Israel not just in Gaza, but.

the impact of Hamas and the impact of. Hezbollah and some of the Iranian. proxies, what happened in that 12-day. war last year and the degradation of. their nuclear program, not to. obliteration, but the success of those. early strikes. They had a degraded. regime. And they had this sort of. once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, at least. once in 37 years of the current former. regime leader, 47 years overall, to hit. them hard and finally deliver that. punch. You have Netanyahu, who's facing. elections, potentially facing corruption. charges, has opportunity uh to move.

forward an extreme agenda, sort of. Israeli apartheid with the annexation of. the West Bank. He's trying to take over. any. most influence of the Supreme Court, his. own political survival, uh. obviously prodding and pushing in this. respect. And Trump had sort of set. himself up by putting so many military. assets. And I think it was Napoleon or. someone said, "The only use that you. can't that that it is not appropriate. for a sword is sitting on it." And so he. couldn't sit on those assets. Uh and so they moved. And in some ways,

that was not necessarily shocking, particularly after Trump's sort of. drunkenness in terms of his forays in. the Western Hemisphere with Maduro and. how they're going to try to do you know, we'll see where they are adjacent to. that in Cuba. in the sense of purity as it came out of. that that those military strikes on. those on those nuclear sites. So, you. know, from that position and his. position of weakness domestically, his. desire to always be the star, doesn't. care if he's the heel or the hero, uh.

the ease to which the executive branch. can move those operations. and challenge norms, traditions, even. the War Powers Act. in that respect, um it wasn't shocking. But beyond that, what is equally. uh shocking is the fact that it's clear. they didn't even think through who would. operate. They said, "Well, oh yeah, we. killed That was the guy we were hoping. would take over. Uh we killed him as. well and I may or that person too and.

well, we'll see. Maybe maybe the person. he said today could be worse. I don't. know. Jesus, this all happened it could. be worse. >> Yeah. I mean it's it's a jaw-dropping. the incompetency at full display. You. know, I've gotten the question and I'm. sure you've seen this question floating. around too is this idea that you know, while all of this stuff is happening at. the hands of somebody who feels. completely reckless is this some. entrance into World War and so. what what would you say to that? If. somebody asked you that question. I just. we can't allow that to happen and that. just that that's a pit in the stomach. that I just you know, we we we have. agency. We can shape the future.

Congress can shape the future. They being more assertive. I appreciate. you bringing. >> More more assertive. Well, at least. members of our party. You have to have. some assertiveness to be more to be more. assertive. I'll tell you about not the. majority but at least members in the. minority that have aggressively calling. out which I appreciate. So they vote in. favor of bringing back their their own. authority. >> know. I mean I I I've. I I still vaguely remember and and I. think it was eighth grade or or. freshman sophomore year high school the. Constitution. and this notion of co-equal branches of.

government of war powers and and war. powers act. I mean little it's not that. complicated. Uh and so by definition that's an easy. vote for Democrats. Um but look, the the. the nature that this is now and you're. seeing the UAE, you're seeing it. obviously Lebanon's getting more and. more serious uh back and forth with. Israel. Uh the fact that this now is a. regional war um is alarming beyond words. and obviously seen what's what where. China is in relationship to this the. impacts on oil and any oil impacts are.

going to disproportionately hurt them. and their and Asian allies uh United. States allies at least in Asia. Uh where. this plays as it relates to Ukraine. vis-a-vis Putin. I mean Putin's over. three here. I mean the only good thing. look is supreme leader was a tyrant. Unquestionable. That's just a fact. Uh. but there are a lot of tyrants out. there. So was Saddam. Uh there's. consequences when you take out the. tyrant, you take out the leader and you. try to impress upon this notion of a. regime change. And so that's the consequence we're. going to have to live with and we have. to contain that. And and so I hope that.

Congress, public opinion in here is what. really matters. The markets. Seems to be the only thing that moves. thoughts, period. Bond market, stock. market and the oil markets. So you had. mentioned you had mentioned Donald. Trump's. trying to basically usurp some authority. domestically as it relates to these. these foreign incursions. And one. concern that I've had is we saw just a. few days ago the Washington Post. reported that that the Trump.

administration was. basically putting together a memo that. would declare that they have. extraordinary powers in the aftermath of. what they say was China interfering in. the 2020 election. >> go. This would allow them and I think. that the word that the Washington Post. used was to unlock extraordinary. presidential powers over voting. And. then of course once the bombing started. in Iran, one of the first things Trump. posted was Iran had had interfered in. the 2020 and 2024 elections and this is. the consequence of that. And so we've.

seen numerous instances where Trump is. looking for some foreign scapegoat to. give himself the pretext to declare you. know extraordinary powers domestically. as far as our elections are concerned. If he does issue some executive order as. the governor of California, what do you. do in the immediate aftermath of that? >> And there was some implication that he. was trying to connect the the Fulton. County issues with the Maduro as well. I. mean so we've seen this over and over he. tries to exercise these emergency powers. so he can have more authoritarian.

opportunities to assert himself without. any oversight and without any. rational engagement with the coequal. branch of government. Only thing that's. stopped him ultimately are the courts. which is interesting. The only there's a. vague heartbeat. I don't want to. oversell the US Supreme Court right now. But there have been at least two decent. opinions as it relates to tariffs and. obviously National Guard. So, look, where we are is we're calling this out. in real time. We continue to make the. point future happens here first when it. comes to so many of these things that we. are America's coming attraction. We saw. that in the federalization of the.

National Guard. We saw that Greg Bovino. and his mass men, the secret police. We. saw that as relates to what he tried to. do on election day with the board act. teams to chill free expression and. speech. What he did with the DOJ, what. he did by saying this election was. rigged before one vote was cast on. election morning through Truth Social. We made the point and a lawsuit months. ago before the lawsuit was highlighted. in Minnesota. related to the DOJ going after our. voting rules rules. So, we're in. litigation. I was in Fulton County. talking to their elections officials and.

what he's trying to do there to take. over that. I mean, this guy is not. screwing around. The federalization of. the of of or nationalization rather of. the vote and then looking at 15 states. in particular. Why did we do Pro 50? It was all in. relationship that he will go to the ends. of the earth to rig the election, to. steal this election in plain sight. So, yeah, we have to draw the line, litigation, formal authority, use our.

moral authority, continue to remind. people what's at stake, call every one. of these things out. None of this is. we're not overstating things here. We. may be understating. and that report only highlights that. This guy is not screwing around and this. is it for us. This is This is the whole. whole game, 2026. It's only thing that. matters is getting Speaker Jeffries in. office. Only thing that matters is that. we put everything on the line to save. this republic, to save this democracy so.

we can celebrate 220. you know, 251 years of this historic. project. When you went to Fulton County, what did they have to say? It's. jaw-dropping what's going on there. I I. it's actually shocking beyond words. Was. there Was there a Was there a mechanism. wherein that wherein they don't allow. Tulsi Gabbard to get the get the ballots. because she was able to do that at the. end of the day? >> They took everything and now what. they're trying to do is potentially use. again some authority, some mysterious. authority, to then. >> appoint their own election commissioners.

to oversee one of the most critical. counties election in the next. um with the next ballot. I mean, this is. it's happening in plain sight. So, it's. it's not they're not. You know, the the. We uh we may you know, people may tune. in and say, "Geez, these guys are a. little bit uh you know, unhinged in. their comments." No, no. We we're. This guy's unhinged in his action. Yes. And it's happening with the complicit. propaganda network in Fox and this media. that's not calling them out and a supine.

Congress to your point and and his. current speaker who's in on this and all. of the folks out there uh that uh in the. national security and these sort of. power agencies and these sort of, you. know, the DOJ, IRS, all these others. that are all part of of this larger. effort uh to suppress free speech, free. expression, and ultimately impact the. outcome of the election. And remember, if it goes south, he'll likely suggest. that it was rigged and then the vote. count will be in doubt and the prospects.

of even Speaker. Jeffries is going to be put into. question because Speaker Johnson may. play games on the back this. So, I want. to use something that you said to to go. into a. our last topic here and that is you had. mentioned the idea of a complicit media. And of course, we're we're here in Los. Angeles and and we just found out that. moving forward is the merger between. Paramount and Warner Brothers Discovery. beating out Netflix to do so, which. means if it does go through that David.

Ellison, the Ellison family, the. pro-Trump Ellison family would. consolidate even more of their hold on. on the entertainment industry and. specifically on the news because it's. not just CBS where Barry Weiss is in. charge, but now we've got CNN which. would be under the thumb of the Ellison. family as well. And so I've spoken to. the Attorney General Rob Bonta. Obviously, he has some authority. He has. some standing to challenge this if he. decides to you know that his. investigation shows that there's grounds. to do so. From what you've seen on your.

vantage and I know that your office is. different from his office, but just. based on what you've seen, do you think. that there that this is a violation of. antitrust law? Well, they're going to. and look, they they have a a. responsibility to review it sort of. other AGs, not just the state of. California. No state's going to be more. impacted than California. We're going to. be impacted in many different ways. You. can just go to the you know to the the. the the the immediate reality of the. creative community impacts and the loss. of jobs. We've seen with these mergers in the. past even the Fox-Disney merger the.

number of productions that were. substantially reduced, the marketing. teams, the cloud computing. >> And the cost for consumers? Uh going to. also be impacted because you've got more. consolidation, less competition in the. space. It will also have impact on real. estate here in Southern California. And. obviously the streaming components that. are merging, but you saw car. at the federal level already say. everything looks rosy and fine. And the fact that you began with saying. the Ellison family mean David who I know. and but you know, he's there with. Lindsey Graham. at the State of the Union.

And they're not even faking it. They're not even faking it. And so you. know, this is it's code red. You know, and. who no one wants to see this kind of. consolidation. It's Tik Tok. Uh now it's CBS and CNN. I mean, you. think for a second Trump is not going. through the list of primetime can-. candidates to replace the current. primetime lineup at CNN? I mean, I was. just at CNN a couple days ago with. Anderson Cooper and doing his podcast.

You felt the chill there. And I mean, it's this is a chill and now you know. that chill is also going to be reflected. in what's what's not said on CNN. starting yesterday, the day before. The. segments they don't produce as. everyone's preening and auditioning. right now, just trying to keep their. careers going, to save their jobs where. producers start moving. Everybody's in. this shapeshifting space. And that's. what's so insidious about what's going. on. So, yeah, I'm glad Rob's taking a. look at it. He of course sent a letter. even if Netflix was going to do this.

deal to both suitors saying he's taking. a look at that's his legal response and. obligation. But I but I hope all this stuff gets the. kind of vetting that the American people. deserve before it's too late. So, I know. that that that is more of a national. issue, but as far as the entertainment. industry in California, I want to go a. little bit local here because again, we. are here in LA and over the last, you. know, decade or so, the industry has been. pretty decimated. Not just and and we've. spoken about this virtually every time.

that that we have an interview, we speak. about this issue. Not just because other. states have been able to to grab. business from from Los Angeles, but now. other countries are doing the same. And. so, what needs to be done. >> Yeah. to get work back to Los Angeles, to get the industry back into Los. Angeles? Well, I mean, I obviously. doubling. >> had a. a magic wand. So, doubling the tax. credits was great. It was important, but. it was a stopgap measure. We need to. substantially streamline all of the. local permitting, which is a huge issue,

remains a massive issue. You do not have the local permitting. problems in a lot of other states that. continue to persist here in Los Angeles. and in the region. We have to have a. simple one-stop shop as it relates to. that. Not just state permits, federal. permits to the extent there are some. overlays, but notably local permits. So, localism is determinative in that. respect. Number two, the debate about. above the line. as it relates to the tax credit. The. ability to get folks from overseas, particularly compete with the UK, you have to start looking above the. line. New Jersey did a version. Their.

tax credits have actually produced some. results in that respect. That that That. has a lot of support and a lot of. opposition. But again, I'm magic wand. right now. >> Right. So, you'd start to address that. You combine those two things. You have a. much more proactive and assertive. combination of state, regional, and. local support for the industry, support. for advocating to writers to write. scripts that are place-based, which is a. critical component of this. Uh one of. the things we've seen with a lot of.

production that has landed here, it. started with the writer uh that started. drafting and writing in a landscape that. was need every writer to to place their. their their projects on Sunset. Boulevard, basically. >> it. And. And so, it's a combination of all those. factors. I- I- If you're able to say. that, and by the way, I have a crew here. that's that's looking at you and nodding. as you're saying that they're. streamlining the permitting process, and. I know how it goes in Los Angeles versus. other cities. If If it's so easy for you. to say that, why is it not easy enough.

for the city council, for example, to. just enact it? Well, this is exactly. what I'm doing when it comes to the. rebuilding. I was just in the Palisades. talking about some of the continuing. issues as relates to permits and rebuild. uh for the fires itself. You know, it's it's just You know what. it is? It's just layers and layers of. jurisdiction and bureaucracy. LA County. has 88 cities. I mean, just think about. the functionality or lack thereof as it. relates to just different jurisdictions. and how you navigate within the county. when you're doing shoots in multiple.

cities within the county. So, it starts. from that labyrinth and that. perspective. And so, you've just got to. break down all these damn barriers, and. that's about local leadership at the end. of the day. Yeah, we can assert. ourselves. We have executive orders. We. can do the tax cuts as relates to the. film tax credits that we did at the. state level. But localism, I'll say it. again, is determinative in that respect. And it's getting people everybody to. understand how vulnerable this moment is. in Los Angeles. You've got so many great. things happening, so much built. investment and capital. This merger sort.

of offers, you know, they're going to. have to double down on Burbank in many. respects. It's one of the big It's a. huge real estate portfolio play as well, which is important. Uh Netflix still. plays an outside role in terms of. production down here. We're seeing the. industry shift and obviously that shift. has its downside, but also there's some. opportunities there. And so this is a. critical moment. The state will play its. role, but again in terms of. streamlining, reorganizing, recalibrating, deal with NIMBYism not. just from a housing mindset, but a.

filmmaking mindset. Uh everyone has to. understand how vulnerable this moment. is, how we can lose this. Uh and I also. hope that Trump, I'll end on this, also takes this opportunity to do. something for American filmmaking by. creating some incentives federally Yeah. so that we can bring back these. productions domestically. And that also. is a big part of this. Right. Like you. said, I mean. the UK has taken a lot of work. Canada. has been taking work for years and years.

and years. Um if you were so effective at. mobilizing this state as it relates to. Prop 50 and these maps to fight fire. with fire and neutralize the power grab. that we saw in Texas. Is there that same. fervor to uh cut through red tape and. kind of, you know, we've spoken about. the abundance agenda and actually making. liberal governance work? Um is there is. there that same. uh uh desire among. you know, down ballot leadership in this. state to do exactly that, to make.

liberal governance work? Well, I I think. there is. I think the public's had it. They want liberalism that builds. I. mean, that's why we got our the holy. grail housing reforms done last year. But of course I had to put it in the. budget. Still wasn't easy. I had to link. it, which is not where you do. legislation, but it was on land use. reforms and then ultimately, what we. refer to as sequel reforms. And it was. profound, and it will be profoundly. consequential. What's interesting, that. people that opposed it initially were. sort of protecting their local flank, were quietly supporting it, but publicly.

had to oppose it because of politics. But that said, the politics is beginning. to shift. And so, look, I've done 28. executive orders, just waving. you name it, I've waved it, coming to. back to the rebuild of LA post the. fires. And to the extent there's an. executive order I can sign in this. space, I'm happy to do it. >> If you're if you're able to wave if. you're able to wave those things as it. relates to Pacific Palisades and the. fire rebuild, what about statewide? >> It's all through an emergency lens, back. to Donald Trump. And the manufacturing.

of emergencies. So, it's it's a it's a. cautionary point. But in that emergency. mindset, of course, we had it at scale. in COVID, and people can adjudicate the. the merits and demerits of that. But in. these emergency frames, you have a lot. more authority in these. but when you have these sort of slower. deaths, as it were, that are, you know, sort of. flashing yellow lights, it's more. difficult. But I think we're there with. with Hollywood, and I think, look, everyone says the right things. Everyone. I talk to in local government, all the.

members of the board, city council, all. say the right things. It's just a. question of leadership landing and doing. the right things and being accountable. Well, to that end, I'm going to read a a. couple of sentences. from your book here to to end off on. that note. And that was a conver- I'm. going to read about a conversation that. you had on the phone. It was "What the. are you doing here? Why do we work. so hard to win if you can't do something. bold? This is a short life, Gavin. Your. time as a politician to get things done. is just a blip. And so, to that end, I. mean, there is not that much time, and.

and we have the opportunity to. you know, rebuild this state and rebuild. this city, and and and I do hope that. people take that to heart, and and use. the power that they do have to do. exactly that. >> that. And that was in relationship to. same-sex marriage in 2004 before uh. anyone was ready for it. And so, look, that's the spirit that defines the time. It's the abundance mindset. It's the. spirit Look, that I think we have to in. closing acknowledge that Trump has. brought to the endeavor. He's stretched the mind of possibility. of what can be done. It's just.

destruction is not strength. He's not a. builder. He's a destroyer. We need to be. builders. The Democratic Party needs to. be builders. But with that same mindset. of urgency that's reflected in that. quote and I think in the urgency of your. question. Again, the book is Young Man in a Hurry. by Gavin Newsom. Again, I'm going to put. that link in the post description of. this video and also on the screen. Governor Newsom, I appreciate taking the. time. >> Good to be with you. Thank you.