MUST-SEE: Jon Ossoff EXPOSES Trump for traveling with young female aide

I think John Oaf just made himself. public enemy number one for Donald. Trump. So, take a look at this clip from. his most recent campaign rally. >> And there's something. uniquely despicable. >> about lying a nation into war, >> treating citizens as fools and those who. serve as pawns. >> Aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. They've. now been at sea for 240 plus days.

without a port call. It's a Navy record. And still And still. And still they serve with excellence. >> And still they serve with excellence. >> God bless the sailors, Marines, aviators, and all aboard the United. States ship Abraham Lincoln.

See, they don't expect luxury. They'll endure hardship. But they deserve competent leaders who. send them into combat only when. necessary. >> And with decisive clarity of purpose, not fools who lie about the purpose and. progress of war. That's right. >> That's right. >> And while the sailors on the Lincoln. fight his war, >> while he fruitlessly drains our. munitions and oil reserves, the.

president sleeps through his meetings. >> He golfs and trades stocks. >> See, he doesn't want to do the job. He wants to build his ballroom and. travel with Natalie on their apparently. defenseless flying palace gifted by the. Amir of Qatar. Oh boy, that right there is one way to.

make some news. So, you likely heard. Osaf's reference to Natalie, and. something tells me thanks to that. speech, we're going to be hearing a lot. more about her. So Natalie Harp is. Trump's executive assistant. Technically, in practice, she's become. something closer to Trump's shadow. She's the woman who follows him. everywhere with a portable printer so he. doesn't have to read anything on a. screen, god forbid. And that earned her. the nickname of the human printer among. White House staff. She's been in Trump's. orbit since 2022. According to the new. book, Regime Change, Harp left Trump.

gushing notes, including one that says, "You are all that matters to me." And. Trump himself acknowledged as much, saying, quote, "All of you will go off. and make money. She'll never leave me.". Referencing Natalie. Now, while the. prospect of an affair is widely. speculated, given, well, given what I. just explained, I should be clear that. there isn't definitive proof of a. relationship, Snopes looked into this. and found that the claim is built on. anonymous sourcing and speculation, not. hard evidence. And even Harp's own.

aranged brother told the Daily Beast. that he doesn't think it's romantic. He. thinks it's more of a father figure. obsession, which sure is its own special. kind of strange, but not the same thing. as an affair, per se. With that said, Donald Trump doesn't exactly have a. solid track record when it comes to. being faithful on his wives. This is a. guy who is on his third marriage, who. apparently openly cheated on his first. wife with the woman who became his. second wife, who was found liable in. civil court for sexually abusing Eugene.

Carol, who paid hush money to a porn. star to bury a story right before an. election, who was caught on tape. bragging about grabbing women without. their consent, and who has more than two. dozen allegations of harassment or. sexual assault against him. And now. there is a very persistent rumor about. his purported relationship with a young. aid half his age that's serious enough. that a United States senator referenced. it in public. So again, when it comes to. plausible deniability, Trump doesn't. have much. It's worth noting, too, that.

this is the same party, the GOP, that. has spent decades telling you it's the. party of family values, the party of. traditional marriage, the party that. wanted Bill Clinton impeached over an. affair, that built an entire political. identity around character, that still. can't stop talking about protecting. families come every single election. cycle. And yet, who did they decide to. hitch their entire wagon to? A guy who. is now publicly accused of cheating yet. again on his wife. Surprise, surprise. And of course, it goes without saying,

but if any Democratic president had even. a fraction of this resume, right-wing. media would be running it as breaking. news wall to wall from now until the. last ballot is cast. But of course, because it's Trump, the party of family. values has decided that the answer is. just total silence, total loyalty, and. of course, zero self-awareness. But the. family values branding was never really. about family values. that was a tool to. win elections and pass policy that helps. millionaires and billionaires. The.

second that it stopped being useful, the. second that Trump became their only path. to power, the values got quietly. dropped. And the only thing that. survived was the branding. And that is. part for the course in today's MAGA. Republican party. Shallow branding with. nothing under the surface beyond, of. course, desperation to consolidate power. for the sake of consolidating power. Now, as far as Natalie Harp is. concerned, the truth is that John Oaf's. point here isn't really about Natalie. Harp at all. It's about what Trump is. choosing to do with his time while, for. example, active duty sailors are stuck.

on a 9-month deployment fighting a war. that he started, which he promised we'd. never get into. It's about a president. who can't be bothered to sit through his. own briefings, but has plenty of energy. to build himself a $250 million. ballroom, which became 300 million, 350. million, 400 million, 600 million. You. get the picture. And of course, a. president who has time to fly around in. a luxury jet gifted by Qar. Osaf isn't. gossiping here. He is pointing out that. the guy who told the USS Lincoln sailors.

that their deployment hasn't been nearly. long enough apparently has all the time. in the world for golf, for stock trades, and joy rides on a plane that a foreign. monarchy gave him. It is a microcosm for. the fact that Trump's presidency is not. about the people Trump promised to help. It is about himself. Need more proof? Assaf lays it out right here. >> And above all, above all, Donald wants. to get money. crypto. >> Yeah. >> How much have you heard about the. president's stock trading?

>> When he first announced the tariffs, you. remember that. >> he called it liberation day. >> and it crashed the markets because it. was clown policy. You remember that? >> Okay, so follow me through on this. He. announces the tariffs on April 2nd of. last year. The markets tank non-stop for like a. week because it's a disastrous trade. policy. And 6 days into the crash, April. 8th, Trump buys millions in stock. I'm.

talking Amazon, Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft, Birkshshire Hathaway. And. then the very next morning, April 9th, he posts on Truth Social, quote, "This. is a great time to buy.". >> Three exclamation marks. >> Okay, now listen to this. 3 hours and 41. minutes after that post, one day after. he bought millions in stock, he canled. the tariffs and triggered one of the. biggest same day rebound rallies in. market history.

>> He's trying to get money. >> And you saw now he's offering paid. subscriptions to presidential. announcements, right? >> Just understand what's for sale here. The sitting president's pronouncements. on war and peace and economic policy. delivered first to paying customers. >> What an absolute crook. Yes.

>> And speaking of crooks, speaking of crooks, >> not a lot of people know this, but. Congressman Mike Collins is literally. one of the most active crypto traders in. the entire Congress, House or Senate. And remember, if that message is. resonating in a state like Georgia, which just a few years ago was as ruby.

red as the rest of the South, then it's. clear that the dam is breaking. It's. also clear that Republicans probably. miscalculated by putting blind. allegiance to Trump over delivering for. their own constituents because these are. the stories that are going to get told. every day for the next 3 months and then. after that, every day until the 2028. election. So, I hope it was worth it. As. far as Republicans are concerned, the. party of family values hitching their. wagon to a cheating predator. The party. of fiscal responsibility blowing up the. deficit. The party of the Constitution.

willing to tear it up for an autocrat. They put Trump over everything. And now. they're going to have to answer for it. You're watching the No Lie podcast. Next. up are my interviews with David Pacman. and Brian Point Dexter, the Democrat. running against scandal plagued Max. Miller. No Lie is brought to you by. Factor. So, there is a direct link. between how crazy the news cycle gets. and how much I stick to my routine. And. of course, because the last few months. have been insane, to say the least, my. ability to eat healthy took a major hit.

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creator and the author of the new book. Pay Attention: How the Algorithms and. Media Wars are sus are suppressing truth. and rewiring your brain. David, I want. to get into the book in just a moment, but first, there was some big news that. broke about how Donald Trump had said. that if Republicans have a poor midterm. performance, it's going to be on them. and not on him at all. He's also uh. refused to come out and really lay his. hands on anybody, hug anybody in his. administration to anoint them, the. successor. So he seems perfectly content.

to kind of marinate in the infighting. that takes place within his own party as. people scramble to be uh the heir. apparent to the MAGA throne. But as far. as him kind of refusing to take any. responsibility for what happens to. Republicans in this upcoming midterms. are concerned, what do you make of that? >> Well, it's funny because he wants to do. this midterm convention thing which. essentially makes it a referendum on. Trump, but if it doesn't go well, then. he had nothing to do with it. This I. think. >> So you mean all the credit and none of. the blame?

>> All the credit, none of the blame. Who. could have possibly guessed? >> This goes back to Trump in 2015, as he. likes to say, when he came down the the. golden escalator and said horrible. things about Mexican people. He doesn't. really care about politics in the sense. of finding consensus, getting public. policy passed. He just wants the the. power. He wants the prestige. He wants. to decorate the Oval Office. What he. really cares about is is it going to be. onyx or granite in the ballroom and this. sort of stuff. And so for him, elections. are almost an inconvenience where it's. it's another election where I have to.

maybe take some hits because my party is. going to get blamed for the things I. failed to do, the promises I made that I. did that I didn't deliver on. Uh, and. he's he's looking beyond that. And I. think 28 is also interesting because he. doesn't really want his successor to do. incredibly well because think about that. retired Trump at Mara Lago. Do you think. his ego would be pleased if he finds out. that his successor is more popular and. is getting things done? Of course not. He wants to be able to sit by the pool. or whatever he does down there and say,

"Look, my successor is failing because I. was uniquely good. I was uniquely. special. I'm really the only guy who. could do it. Without me, the party is. nothing." That's really what he wants. I. mean, isn't there some importance for. him in upholding his legacy at I mean, I. guess I guess lending itself to that. exact point, he sees the necessity of a. Republican successor not there to kind. of um forge their own path, but to. uphold his legacy and make sure that. what he's doing to Obama and Biden's. legacy doesn't happen to him. Yes. I. mean, that's why he's like, look, he.

knows he's not going to be celebrated in. the aftermath of his presidency. So, that's why he needs to rename airports. after himself now. That's why he needs. to erect monuments to himself now. because when you look at this stuff, you. know, from from a cleareyed perspective. with him out of the picture, are you. going to erect monuments to a guy who. oversaw virtually no growth uh uh. watched, you know, in inflation surge. and and started a new war in the Middle. East and failed to release the Epstein. files despite his own promises and gas. prices are rising and affordability is a.

bigger problem than when he took office. Like what is he going to run on other. than the fact that he can erect. monuments to himself? Like that that is. what he's doing in this term. >> Yeah. And this is why he's increasingly. obsessed with stuff that's harder to. sign to make it go away because he knows. that whoever comes after him has the. ability to undo so much of what he's. trying to do with executive orders, etc. If he acquires land, is it Greenland? Is. it, you know, he's posted AI slop about. Venezuela as the 51st state? What. happens with Cuba? that he feels is less. reversible. If he builds a ballroom or.

physically puts massive letters with his. name, he sees that stuff as less. reversible and that's all he's obsessed. with right now. And to your point, it's. so it's so unlikely that whoever. succeeds him will say the reason I'm. able to do this is because of Donald. Trump who came before me. Of course, that's not the case. Trump before. whoever is the next Republican nominee. will be an impediment to Trump because. he's polling 30%. >> Right. Do you think that there will be. some I guess reversion to the mean or.

from what you've done what you've. reported on online have you seen some of. the MAGA coalition which which generally. as I said does re revert back to the. mean are you seeing some of that MAGA. coalition actually crumble away and and. I asked this with the caveat you know. that that I don't want to fall into the. same trap of being like we've got him. now you know finally his because it it. always does seem that we've been saying. this for years that people are are are. are seeing the extent to which whether. it's Trump 1.0 0 or 2.0 the extent to. which he presents himself as this. populist champion. And yet when push.

comes to shove, this guy has nothing to. show for himself other than legislation. that offers up tax cuts that. disproportionately benefit millionaires. and billionaires. But from what you've. seen lately, can you give a state of. play as far as the Republican uh or the. the MAGA coalition is concerned? For the. most part, these are pathetic cowards. who need to hold on as long as possible. in case being aligned with Trump is. still going to be useful for them only. if it becomes incontrovertible that.

they're going to lose unless they go, >> "The Iran war was not exactly my idea.". And one of the things I've been telling. my audience, you know, we we have some. moderate Republicans in our audience or. people who write in and they go, I don't. really agree with your views on anything. other than I don't like Trump, but I. like my senator or I like my member of. the House. And what I've been telling. them is it might sound logical to say. I'm a Republican. I don't like Trump, but I like, you know, who whoever, Chuck. Grassley, as hard as that is to imagine, or whoever,

>> the people you are thinking about. reelecting as your representatives, even. though you don't like Trump, have rubber. stamped 92 to 99% of what Trump has. done. So, we have to do away with this. notion of I'm going to vote for my. Republican rep because I like them, but. Trump's the problem. Your rep has. enabled Trump to do what he has done, and they also need to be voted out, >> right? They they are nothing but pure. vehicles for his like the reality is. Donald Trump could be stopped like his.

worst excesses, his abuses could be. stopped by those very people who are in. place uh to serve as a check on him, but. they've decided to contract all of their. power out to the executive branch. because they feel like it's more, I. don't know, it's it's easier or or. better for their re-election or they're. just too scared uh of of garnering a. primary challenge from the right and so. they just decide that it's that it's, you know, better to stay on his good. side and in turn, as you said, rubber. stamp everything he's done. But these. people are no different from him. They.

they enable him to be what he is without. these Republicans in power who have. decid other than Thomas Massie, who by. the way still votes with Republicans. like 91% of the time. >> Exactly. >> They've all they they are just as. responsible for this. And I make sure. that when I do my coverage of what Trump. does, I I always point out the fact that. it's not just Trump because there will. come a point where the, you know, anti-Trump of it all will will stop. carrying as much weight as it does right. now. But I I make it clear that it's not. just Trump. It's these other people who. enable him and embolden him to do what.

he's doing. Because without the the. these obsequious sickopants like Mike. Johnson, like everybody in the House, like everybody in the Senate, Trump. wouldn't be able to do anything that. he's doing right now. He would be. stopped from the Iran war. would be. forced to release the Epstein files. Um. these tariffs and the trade war that. sent the cost of everything surging. wouldn't take place. And yet here we. are. >> And I think an important point to make. is let's not fall for starting to play. koi with the Thomas Massie, Marjgery. Taylor Green, Rand Paul. You know the as. anti- athoritarians on the left, it's.

inevitable that you will sometimes come. across, hey, the the clock is right, the. the the broken clock is right twice a. day. Rand Paul will say something about. uh constitutional limits and we'll go, "Oh, well that that kind of makes. sense." Or Marjorie Taylor Green will. say Trump conned the the the working. class, but these are not our political. allies. And it's really important, I. think, that we not fall into. These. might be people we can actually work. with, >> right? The bar is so low that all it. takes is like Margie Taylor Green saying. one saying like one reasonable thing.

about Donald Trump before people are. like, you know what, maybe she she's got. a point. Um well, that brings me to to. the book again. And the book is called. Pay attention. How the algorithms and. media wars are suppressing truth and. rewriting your brain. So I got to ask. first and foremost as we discuss all of. this stuff, what was the impetus to do. this? And and I have a good I have a. good um I want to discuss like you know. I think I think you and me having this. discussion from two people who have. contracted a lot of their own lives out. to the toxic cesspool that is the. internet. Uh will be interesting for. some folks. But why why did you think it.

was important to write this right now? There are so many people right now who. are under the impression that you I. don't really need to be involved in. politics. I don't really care about how. these digital platforms work. What I. care about is this thing in my local. community or that thing related to my. work life or my kids life or whatever. What people really need to understand is. that if you are engaging in these. digital platforms on any basis, if. you're scrolling Tik Tok at night or. looking at how instructional videos on. YouTube or whatever the case may be,

what you are seeing is directly related. to how these algorithms work. And the. effect in the political space is. massive. And so if you think to. yourself, I'm hearing about X, so X must. represent what's going on in the. political world, you're getting that. because these algorithms have identified. what is most likely to keep you on the. platform. They're not optimized for what. is true. They're not optimized for. what's best for the working class. These. are tailorade algorithms that are. saying, "What can I do to keep Brian.

scrolling on TikTok for another 15. minutes?" This gives a really distorted. view of what's happening in the world. around us. what we should be asking of. our elected officials, how elections. work and this is how people end up. siloed as I call it where one person is. seeing one set of of of videos, someone. else is seeing something completely. different and there's zero shared basis. in fact from which we can even come. together and go let's figure out what. the best way to deal with housing would. be or healthcare or whatever. So do you.

think that in that respect. because there is a certain type of. content that people respond to and not. even necessarily respond affirmatively. but just respond. >> That's right. >> Uh whether it's it whether it's. agreement, whether it's rage, whether. it's, you know, whatever it may be. >> Does that elevate voices in in what. you've um been able to recover? Does. that elevate voices in terms of what. you've been able to report on and. uncover that are the most extreme? >> 100%. Just take take this example.

Vaccines for COVID have killed millions. of people. That's one view. Yeah. >> Here's another view. You know, the. vaccines are really pretty good at. keeping people alive and mostly out of. the hospital, but as far as. transmission, they're not so good, but. certainly they're very uh uh safe. >> We've lost a lot of people already, right? One of the two things I just said. is true. It's the second one. It's the. really boring one. Which one is more. likely to be shared? Of course, it's the. first one. And and so when you come to. realize that, you start to understand.

why is the stuff that's getting shared. getting shared so much. It's rage, scapegoating, finding a villain, and. fear are the most important emotions. that trigger virality. And the right has. figured out unfortunately how to harness. a lot of that. And so in the book, you. actually talk about why this kind of the. the way that our media ecosystem is. built, the way that the algorithms are. built actually does favor the right over. the left. And so can you talk about. that? Yeah. I mean, take an issue like. for example taxes. If the right has come. up with it's your money. You earned it.

Yeah. You should get to keep it. They. shouldn't steal it from you. Very. emotionally salient, very simple. That's. the rights view. It does really well on. social media. We on the left aren't. going around saying taxes should be. 100%. No, we're saying of course we. would love to keep as much of the money. we earn as possible. If we're gonna live. in a society, you've got to socialize. things like the police at least and fire. and some. >> we've already started to explain. I'm.

explaining it gets lost in these. algorithms. This stuff isn't sharable. So, I don't think it's a lost cause and. we certainly shouldn't give up. You. know, some people ask me, "So, are you. going to like throw your phone in the in. a pond and then go that sounds so nice? >> It sounds great, actually. But but we. would be seeding ground to the worst. ideas." And so, we can't do that. we. have to figure out how to win on these. platforms. And so how do you overcome. the structural disadvantage if you are a. party for whom um you know more I guess.

nuanced. uh uh arguments have to take p like have. to take precedence like it's easier for. the right to just say we want to destroy. everything in government. We don't need. the department of education. We don't. need uh the department of the interior. Let's eliminate it all. Government. should be small enough to drown in a. bathtub. Doesn't that sound good to. everybody? your tax dollar shouldn't be. going to these bloated institutions. And. you're the party that says offers up a a. nuanced argument, a nuanced retort, and. you say, "Actually, we do need the these. are, you know, there are there are under. un under underserved and under. underprivileged communities that benefit.

from the Department of Education being. able to step in and uphold these federal. standards. That's just one agency, but. but you can obviously extrapolate that. into so many other arguments. How do you. how do you overcome the massive. structural disadvantage of the. algorithms and of the way that the. internet prioritizes certain content to. be the side that wins? So, there's two. things we have to do. Number one, we. just have to get better at framing a lot. of this stuff. And so, for example, instead of going directly into the. nuances of zoning, if we're going to. talk about housing, we need to find some.

emotional core, which is if you work, you should certainly be able to afford. to live in the place where you're. working. That's just like it's a basic. starting point and then we kind of fill. in the nuance. That's number one. The. other thing is as you and I have talked. about, you do have to learn to play the. games on these platforms and what works. on podcast is different from what works. on YouTube and what works on YouTube. might be different than what's trending. on Instagram. And we've got to learn how. these systems work. I don't um you know. sometimes people say uh wouldn't you. rather just have really toned down.

everything titles on YouTube etc. I. would love that. But but let me tell. you, once I've spent time thinking. about, researching, recording, and. editing a video, I want to do everything. I can honestly do. Obviously, without. lying, everything I can honestly do to. get as many eyeballs on that piece of. content as possible. If you've got to. use emotional titles on YouTube, I I. think that that's just what we have to. do. >> Yeah. And and it's interesting that you. bring that up. And a lot of people. >> I know for my audience that that is the. the single most annoying thing that they.

have to contend with. I'm sure I'm sure. it's the I'm sure it's the same for. every single person in this ecosystem. Whoever is the first to say, "I'm going. to relinquish these titles and go to. just complete straight news titles,". will be the first person to see their. views plummet. And that's just how it. goes because so long as everybody else. in the ecosystem continues to use. emotional titles, you are just choosing. to either play the game or unilaterally. disarm. That's it. Those are the only. two options. you aren't going to like I. I I mean I created a second channel. called Brian Tyler Cohen News that just.

uses straight titles um for people that. want sharable content, for people that. are just fed up with with any. sensational titles and the the number of. subscribers is smaller and the views are. a fraction sometimes like 1% of what the. other uh videos will get. So, you know, I I I understand there is a, you know, there's a there's a gulf between there's. a there's a chasm between what people. say that they want and and really at the. same time what people still respond to. when they're when they're served certain.

content. >> That's right. And for people who are. hearing this and they're saying, "Listen, I I like you guys. I like what. you have to say, but I just can't deal. with that." There are options for those. folks. The the long form audio podcast. space is outside of this algorithmic. system. you know, the the you have one. episode title for the full hour or. whatever it is. I say to people, you can. exit that. Put it in your headphones. when you're at the gym or commuting or. walking or whatever. You're not going to. see any wild YouTube titles. You're. going to get the content. That is still. a space that hasn't been touched. Books. are a space also where you can sit down.

with no capital letters or, you know, extreme thumbnail images and you can. just see what my thoughts are about. these issues or others. Uh I I think. that there are still opportunities for. that for people who are looking for it. What was the most striking thing to you. while you were writing this book? What. was something, you know, obviously. having spent so much time in this space? Um, I'm sure you set out to write this. feeling like at least you knew. everything that you were going to write. about. Was there something was there. some new discovery that you made even.

after being in this book like roughly 20. years if I'm not mistaken? >> Yeah. Yeah. Since I was four years old, if you can if you can believe it or not. No. No. So the the thing that surprised. me is as I was writing this book, I did. do some research into specific areas. where these algorithms really sort of. changed the course of history. And um. there there's a an anecdote in the book. about Facebook in Myanmar. There was. unrest there. >> I thought you were going to talk about. like Lincoln early days of like Lincoln. >> Exactly. Um Lincoln on TikTok. It was a. whole thing. Right. Um, and you know.

what? One of these things, the things. that I learned in looking at the history. of how these algorithms can really turn. history at this point, these algorithms. are so powerful in influencing what. people know about and therefore public. opinion that you can fment or end a. potential revolution just by what is uh. uh shared algorithmically on these. platforms. Some people may or may not. remember, I believe it was in 2023. leading into the 24 election where Mark. Zuckerberg said, "We after everything.

crazy that happened in 2020, Facebook. will not recommend political content in. the leadup to the election. My YouTube. my Facebook traffic dropped 95% when. that happened." And a lot of people. wrote to me and they said, "This is. because of Zuckerberg's personal. political views." It may or may not be. because of his personal political views, but what it's really about is what is. most profitable for these platforms and. what will keep people on those. platforms. And Zuckerberg decid decided.

there's too much heat around a lot of. this stuff. I don't want to get sucked. into what happened after 2020. Now. things have reversed completely. After. Zuckerberg and Trump had the meeting of. the minds, Zuckerberg said, "We might. have gone a little too far with the. suppression of the political content. We're basically going to turn it back. on." All creators in our space now have. seen traffic on Facebook go way way up. Nothing changed about the value of the. content. Nothing changed about the truth. of the content or or the verality of it. It's just an algorithm that can be. turned up or down at a at a whim.

>> Yeah. You know, there are obviously. macro situations like the one that you. just discussed. But then when we when we. shrink it down into like how it impacts. you personally, you know, I was speaking. with John Favro on offline about this. exact phenomenon and um I asked a. question because he interviews a lot of. people who are who who occupy this uh. this political media space and I asked. is anyone better off healthier from a.

mental perspective uh from an emotional. perspective uh being in this space and. he says know across the board there is. no one that that for whom um their their. emotional health or mental health gets. better the longer that they stay online. It is solely in one direction more time. online worse off as far as your mental. health is concerned. How do you deal. with something like that to I mean you. know obviously you have an intimate. knowledge not only of being in the space.

but but then kind of like in a meta. perspective studying the very space that. you're in. So, you're able to kind of. like see through the looking glass here, but but how how do you think about. occupying a space that you actively know. is there to manipulate how you think and. give you um give you dopamine hits where. there shouldn't be and just kind of feed. off of your rage or your sadness or. whatever it may be. You have to be. proactive about your consumption of this.

content. And if you're basically pulling. out the phone or laptop or whatever in. any quiet moment and then just spending. more time on these platforms than you. want to be, you've got to figure out a. way out of that. And so what what I try. to do is just be proactive and say, "Well, I'm going to look at stuff for 10. or 15 minutes and then that's going to. be it. You're deciding in advance." A. lot of people, this happens with TV a. lot where people just get into the habit. of the TV is on at certain times of day. You're not really looking for anything. specific. you're just kind of I'm going.

to be watching TV during this period of. time. And then often that amount of time. ends up being more than than you're. thinking of doing. With the phones, it's. even easier because the content is. tailor made to you. It's not, well, it's. 7:30, so now the what's on changes for. everybody. It's tailored to you. So, you've got to be proactive. I try not to. even follow what's happening politically. over the weekends. If if something huge. happens, my team will let me know or. something like that of basically saying, "I'm recording on weekdays. I'm. following the stuff on weekdays." the. weekends I'm going to deliberately take.

time off from it. And I think you have. to be proactive like that. That's the. first thing. The other thing I would say. is I don't know. I think that as you go. up in consumption hours, there are. diminishing returns and then negative. returns. You actually are worse off. I. do think that there is value to the. community aspect of if you do find. like-minded communities, especially for. people who don't live in cities and. might be isolated politically, especially if you're on the left. The. platforms that we're on and the the. content we put out can give people what.

is sometimes the only opportunity to. engage with like-minded ideas and. people. And to the extent that you're. controlling your exposure to it and. being deliberate, I think it can be. positive until it goes over and then. starts to become a negative. Yeah. I I. find the same thing. You know, the the. irony of this space is I rely on people. being online as much as they can be to. consume content. Like that that is my. whole platform. My financial success, all of that relies on more people being. in the space. I absolutely without a.

doubt would recommend that people stay. off of these spaces, not consume this. content until they are in a state where. they feel like they can do it health. like in a in a healthy way and then log. off. Like it is more important to have. longevity than just to get people on 24. hours a day to consume this stuff in the. short term. Get these dopamine hits, get. those views, get those shares. Like I I. have seen, look, I've seen firsthand the. way that it chips away. I've been doing. this for about 10 years now and and I.

should let people know like my entrance. into this space was from watching your. videos. Um so so you know I think you. deserve a lot of credit because uh you. just never know when you're out there. making content like who is watching and. what kind of impact that's going to have. and so um so you know on behalf of the. last 10 years of what I do thank you for. for what you do. Um to that point. though, I do think something that that. is kind of important um to think about. here is that a lot of the way that these.

platforms become toxic is when they take. control of what you're consuming rather. than you taking control. And a lot of. people don't realize with most of these. platforms, you can go in and say, "I. want less of this. I want more of that.". >> You can make them work for you rather. than blindly blindly sort of working for. them. A lot of people don't realize you. can do that. >> Yeah. No, and I think it's important to. do so because even look from from early. days when I started in like 2016 2017, I.

was really good at compartmentalizing. this stuff. I would be able to go to. work to write I think I was writing on. Facebook at the time and just starting. to get into videos in 2018 because I. realized there was not a lot of video. content happening. But even in the early. days, I was just writing on Facebook. back when that was the the principal. platform. Um, and uh, and I was able to. do my thing, go to work, and kind of. like switch my brain off into, okay, I'm. I'm I'm at home now. And it slowly kind. of leaks into your personal life. I.

mean, especially when things get so. dire, so bleak, so grim, it's hard to. turn that part of your brain off and it. just chips away at you, you know. And I. I uh there there are always people who. very very kindly let me know how shitty. I look on a daily basis. Let me know how. tired I look. Let me know that I should. get more sleep. And granted, I know that. they most of them do it from a from a. well-meaning place. And then there's. some people that just want to let me. know how shitty I look even if I've. gotten a full night of sleep. Um, but. but I do think I do think it's important.

like we need people to be kind of in in. tip-top form as we head toward midterms, as we head toward the 2020 election, because you're no good good to the. movement if you're just exhausted and. burnt out. And and look, that's that's. advice that I'm really bad at taking. How have you contended with this idea. that every like I don't care what. content creator claims that they don't. contend with this, everybody deals with. burnout. And so how do you do that in a. job where you know look. on that.

weekend off in 2024 in July of 2024. You. already know where this is going. >> One weekend I was like I'm going to go. 48 hours without touching my without. touching my gear. >> Was this the Butler assassin? >> This was the butler. And I was like I I. was in the car almost like like 90% of. the way to Palm Springs from Los Angeles. about 2-hour drive. And I got a 100. texts in the course of 2 minutes and. nearly drove myself off the road, looked. at my phone, it all I saw was Trump. assassinated. >> Oh, is that right?

>> Somebody wrote Trump assassinated. And. uh yeah, so that's what happened when I. tried to take some time off. But how do. you deal with a never- ending news cycle. uh in a job where you have to cover this. stuff or risk, you know, missing a. story, losing some relevance, whatever. it may be, and uh and yet still having. to take care of yourself and your family. and and and keep some piece of yourself. uh so that you don't just become what I. often feel like I am, which is like this. content producing machine. >> You just have to set some limits. And so. for me, it's been like unless there is a.

crazy breaking story, I'm not doing. content on weekends, I'm thoughtful. about, you know, when I get invit. however many days of travel uh are. required and just being a a little more. thoughtful about that. And you know the. fun, it's kind of funny because after. writing this book, some people said to. me, "Aren't you worried that the book is. going to diminish your audience because. you're telling people too much of this. stuff is kind of toxic?" And I'm not. worried about that because there are so.

many people. >> and relatively so few people actually. read books and these platforms are so. addicting and so good that it's like you. can give pe people aren't going to take. the medicine, you know, it's at a. certain point. So I I'm I don't worry. about that. Well, and and what I said. before about like we want people in this. space to a understand some of how to get. a look behind the curtain at how some of. this stuff is impacting them and their. own health so that they can be in a. position where they have some some. agency, some control over over the. things that are guiding their viewing.

habits, their consumption habits, their. decisions so that they can be in this. fight longer and not just not just like. watch these algorithms squeeze squeeze. every bit of rage and fury and joy and. whatever it may out of them in the short. term to the point where you know I get. lots of emails from people that say I. just you know I can't handle anymore I. just need to step back. >> I think there's one other important. thing to mention in the context of this. environment that we're in right now you. just having written your book and and me. with this one. >> this media offenders white house thing.

where we're listed as liberal lunatics. under the broader category of there's. all these categories media offenders. >> I think it's left leftist lunatics. >> leftist oh what did I say liberal. >> liberal oh I thought they said okay but. fine leftist. Um, this is having a chilling effect. I've heard from two people who said, "I'm really interested in this book. I'm. worried if I interview you, it's going. to pull me into this and I am worried. about what it might mean legally if the. White House notices that I'm talking to. you about this book." Like, this is how.

selfcensorship works. This is exactly. their goal. So, we talk about we don't. want to seed the digital platforms to. these people because then the people. with the bad ideas are the only ones. left. We also don't want to allow the. intimidation to take place because even. if technically there's no first. amendment issue with us being on this. list if it chills people's willingness. to talk to us or it makes Amazon say h. maybe we won't uh email anybody about. the fact that David or Brian's new books. are out that has a very real impact and.

that's just where we are right now. And. I would just recommend for people who. are watching right now, grabbing these. books and sending them onto the New York. Times bestseller list and a and and. making sure to support um progressive. content creators offers an incentive. structure for other people to say, "Oh, look how successful these books on the. left are being. I'm going to take my uh. shot at making sure that I can write my. own book and to perpetuate these ideas.". is there's a reason that Donald Trump. likes to promote every single book about. him and Republicans is because that.

gives a huge permission structure for. other authors to say, "Look, look at. look at what happens when all of these. right-wing authors write something, they. always make it onto the New York Times. bestseller list. They always get their. ideas in the zeitgeist. They always get. a lot of attention and they know that if. a random person goes, I might I might. get a book. Let's see what's on the. list." And they go, "Right-wing book, right-wing book, right-wing." That is a. massive massive impact on what people. buy. Totally. It incentivizes people to. do that. So, um, if you can right now, I'm going to put a link right here on. the screen and also in the post.

description. If you're listening on the. podcast, I'm going to put it on the show. notes. Please help David, uh, reach the. New York Times bestseller list. Give a. permission structure, some. incentivization for other authors who. see this to say that progressive media. can still overcome right-wing media. Um, highly recommend the book. It was an. excellent read and uh and again uh a. great way to show some support for David. as he contends with uh you know some. some some pretty heavy-handed tactics at. the hands of this White House. So with. that said, David, I appreciate the time. Thanks. My pleasure. >> We have some major news out of a deep.

red Republican district in Ohio. That's. Ohio's seventh congressional district. where Max Miller because of all the. scandals that he's engaged in right now. uh is trailing in the polls 39 to 44. I'm joined right now by Brian Po Dexter. who is the Democratic nominee uh for. Ohio's 7th congressional district. So. Brian, thank you for joining me. I I. have to ask first and foremost, what was. your reaction to uh Max Miller refusing. to drop out by the dropout deadline and. basically defiantly um uh staying in.

this race despite, you know, the pretty. egregious scandal that he's facing right. now? Well, uh, I didn't really get in this. race because, you know, Max Miller is. terrible in his personal life. I got. into this race because the policies that. he supported and the administration has. brought forward has made it hard on. working families. Um, whether he stayed. in the race, whether they replaced him, um, we were ready to go with our mission. of fighting for working families. Um,

you know, that message has really. rallied support across the political. spectrum from the far reaches of the. Democratic party, even into the. Republican party and everybody in. between. Um, because we're we're. fighting for what I've lived my whole. life, working for a living. Um, it's. harder to make a living now if you work. and uh we need to correct that and and. I'm hoping to get to Congress to be a. voice for working people. In terms of. Max Miller's character, have you spoken. to voters who have voted for Max Miller.

in the past um who have decided that. that what he is accused of doing, which. is to say um uh uh you know, there was. there was there was a report that he had. thrown uh boiling water at his now. ex-wife. Uh that he was being accused of. uh breaking the collarbone or injuring. the collar bone of his own daughter. Has. that resonated with with folks in your. district? >> Well, I've talked to people um all. across the district, uh Democrats,

Republicans, and independents. Um and. yeah, everybody is shocked and and. shaken by uh by these allegations. And. I've said it over and over again, if if. they prove to be true, he should. absolutely be in jail. Yeah. And uh you. know, I think what voters are waking up. to, especially in this district, is that. um you know, there's a two-tier justice. system where if you're wealthy and. well-connected, um you know, you can be you can be u. alleged to have committed severe.

atrocities and it's business as usual. I. mean, we see it in um in the Epstein. files. You know, if those were iron. workers and plumbers and teachers, they. would already been brought to justice. But here we are years and years and. years later and there's no. accountability. And it it's just it it's. it's not so much a Republican and. Democrat um issue. It's more of a uh. wealthy and well-connected issue and. then everybody else. And um I think it. it's under a microscope now uh in this. race and it's uh under a microscope.

nationally with the Epstein files. >> Quick side note here. As you know, I've. been making videos like this for a. decade now. I have never paywalled any. of my content. I never will. But this is. the one time that I'll ask for some. support. I'd like to try and hit the New. York Times bestseller list this week for. my new book, The Day After. If you. haven't yet grabbed a copy, please click. the link on this screen, in the post. description, in the comments, or go to. brianttylercohen.com/book. I really appreciate it. So talk to me. about your district in particular. because I'm I'm especially interested in. how in how um the electorate is.

responding given the fact that look this. is an electorate in Ohio 7th. congressional district that has voted. for Republicans virtually I mean. certainly for my entire career in. politics. And so for a lot of people, and I and I often say this to to folks. who are running in otherwise red. districts or historically red districts, for a lot of people, their political. affiliation is intertwined with their. identity. And so it's not just as easy. as saying, "Yeah, sure. I may have voted. for Republicans in the past. Now I'll.

vote for Democrats." Like for a lot of. people, they are a Republican in the. same way that they are Christian, in the. same way that they're white or black or. Hispanic, whatever it may be. And so how. has that kind of manifested itself or. presented itself while you've been. talking to folks on the campaign trail? >> Well, I mean, Ohio traditionally has. been a uh bellweather state and it's uh. it's it's gone red at times and blue at. times. You know, the the the recent past. it's it's been more red. Yeah. >> And um you know, especially like since.

two uh 2016 when uh Donald Trump came on. scene, you know, he he came in on a. message of bringing back a golden age. for workers. Um, you know, but what what. people are seeing is, you know, we. didn't get that golden age. We got the. golden shower instead. And it's harder. for people to make a living uh here. under his policies. And I think you're. going to see a trend more back towards. those we know who are going to fight for. workers. Like we have shared Brown on. the ballot. Yeah. Trump won this. district by 11 points, but shared Brown. would have won this district in 2018,

you know, and because he's always had. that message of fighting for workers and. and that's, you know, this is a very. gerrymandered district. They they drew. it to protect Max Miller in his seat, but they accidentally drew a perfect. district for me because I'm right from. the heart of the district. I have the. bluecollar bonafide being a 19-year. member of the Iron Workers Local 17, being a family man, you know, um I'm I'm. a girl dad through and through and uh. you know, I am I am representative of this.

district. And what a concept to be. representative of the district you're. running to represent. Um you know, uh my. opponent Max Miller, um he he just. dumped a million dollars into his. campaign to try to buy his way out of. his troubles. Um, and that's so out of. touch with people here in this district. You know, me, I don't have a million. dollars laying around. Most people in. this district don't have a million. dollars laying around. Um, and it and it. just goes to show that he doesn't know. what we're going through. He can afford.

his votes in Congress. We can't. And. that's that's why I'm going to win in. this race. >> What is your pitch to to folks in that. district? I mean, you know, you remember. you you mentioned that you were uh that. you're a member of the Iron Workers and. and so like, you know, for working-class. Americans, for bluecollar workers, for. union members, what is what is your. priority? What do you want to bring to. your district and to the country more. broadly? >> I I you you summed it up right there. It. is. I want to bring the voice of working. people to the halls of Congress. We you.

know, we are one of the most under. reppresented de demographics, people who. work for a living in in Washington. I. mean, we have plenty of lawyers there. We have plenty of u, you know, elites in. Washington. We need more people from the. working class who knows what people are. going through to stand up and be a. voice. Anything that comes across my. desk in Congress, I'm going to be. looking at it from the perspective of a. worker. And, you know, I didn't read. about the issues of workers in a book. I.

I learned about it by, you know, having to juggle the bills. I. learned about it by trying to get one. kid to practice and one from swimming. lessons. You know, I learned about it by. wearing the different hats, you know, the iron worker by day, the father in. the evening and the nurturer, you know, when they're going to bed. You know, that's where I learned my policy. platform from from the everyday life and. the uh everyday, you know, lived.

experience that the average person in. this district lives under. >> Talk to me about a conversation that. you've had with a voter, maybe a. Democratic voter, maybe an independent. or even a Republican that stuck with. you. >> To pick one out of the thousand is uh is. kind of hard. Um, you know, I I h one. that sticks out in particular, uh, down. in Ashlin County. Ashlin County is very. rural. It's, uh, it it's formerly Jim. Jordan's district. Um, it's newly drawn.

to this district. And so I wanted, you. know, early on in the race, even before. the primary, I wanted to, you know, introduce myself to the folks in Ashlin. County. And, uh, so I go to, um, I go to. a, uh, meeting down there. Uh it was at. uh the machinist union hall right in. Ashlin. And I didn't think I was going. to know anybody there. I'm being, you. know, just going to be myself, introduce. myself. And uh I get there before the. meeting. I I have that blueco collar. work ethic. I show up everywhere early.

And uh I'm waiting for people to come. in, greet them as they come in. And this. this old-timer comes up to me, got his. walking cane. He's like, "Brian, you. remember me?" And I'm like, I remember. the face. I can't remember the name. It. was a guy Dave that I worked with on a. construction site about 10 years. earlier. He's like, he's like, "Brother, I'm so happy that you're here. Um, you. know, we need people like you in. Washington. We need somebody who knows. how to do work and knows how to bring. people together and knows what we're. fighting for." And and you know, that.

right there set the tone for my whole. campaign. That that told me that I was. on the right track. I was doing the. right thing. And people are very excited. that I'm in the race. What what did people of Ohio expect when. they not only voted for Trump but voted. for full Republican control? I mean, they sent Republicans to the Senate, they sent Republicans to the House, they. sent Republicans to the White House. And. so, what what did they expect? And then. what are conditions actually like on the. ground in your district? >> Yeah, people expected um a boom, you.

know, we expected uh manufacturing to. come flooding back to America. You know, especially this area. Uh, you know, I. remember growing up in the '8s, we were. we were a beacon of manufacturing. Um, we were the manufacturing center of the. world. >> Yeah. >> Uh, so to speak in the ' 80s, you know, you can you could uh go from one job to. the next in the same day. And uh, you. know, they were we were told that we. were going to flourish and, you know, we. were going to be making more money than. ever and, you know, people's lives were.

going to be significantly easier. And, um, no, that none of that happened. you. know, uh, manufacturing is down right. now. Um, wages have stagnated, costs are. up, and now we're in a reckless war, and, you know, tariffs have driven. things up, and and, you know, people in. my entire life, me included, I worked. paycheck to paycheck almost my whole. life. You know, maybe maybe I have a. little extra to save, but now people. aren't even making it to the next.

paycheck. And and it's really hard, you. know, when you know, gas goes up to $4. I just filled up yesterday was $423 a. gallon. Um, you know, that that that. hits the wallet pretty hard when uh when. you're still not making when you're. already not making it to the next. paycheck, you know, and like ground. beef, a pound of ground beef was uh. $8.50 a pound. >> I mean, I know people who are working in. um, you know, in grocery stores and in. retail that are making $850 an hour.

They got to work a whole hour for one. pound of ground beef. >> Yeah. >> You know, and um it's it's just. unrealistic. And then and then you hear. things like, "Oh, they want to raise. social security age to 70 years old.". Like, I'm an iron worker. How could I be. up on the high steel at 70 years old. welding and and walking around? It's. it's just unrealistic. Anybody who. suggests that is so out of touch and. they don't belong in the halls of. Congress. What would your message be to. voters who had voted for Max Miller the. previous time who are now uh who are now.

up for grabs? What would be your message. to them? >> My message would be the message that. we've been running on um since day one. Um I'm not in this for partisan. politics. Uh I don't I don't care if. you're a Democrat or Republican. I I. want to fight for working families. If. you are if you work for a living, if. you're not the boss, I'm going to fight for you. I mean, the. bosses, they they have the power and. ability to fight for themselves. They. have the wealth. They can fight for. themselves. We need somebody who's going. to be a champion for workers, and that's.

what I want to be. And and you know, I. tell people when I go to um Democratic. clubs and stuff, we are the we are the. welcoming party, right? Democrats, we. welcome people in. We need to make sure. that we are not shaming people for who. they voted for. We're more than who we. voted for. You might have seen things a. little bit differently two years ago or. four years ago, but we always have the. ability to learn from what we do and. always be willing to. welcome people in when uh when they want.

to jump on board, and that's what we're. doing in this race. >> Brian, for those who are looking to. support your campaign, where can they. go? >> Uh they can check out our website at. point dextterforong.com. You can uh read about my backstory. You. can uh watch our videos. Um, I got to. admit though, most of our cool clips are. on social media. So, if you look up. Brian Po Dexter for Congress on any. social media platform, you'll find us. Um, and yeah, um, help us out in any way. you can. >> Great. I'm going to put a link to your. website right here on the screen and. also in the post description. For those.

who are listening on the podcast, I'm. going to put it in the show notes. Thank. you for taking the time today. Best luck. in the campaign trail. >> No, Brian, thanks for having me. I've. been a big fan of yours for a long time. and keep up your good work, buddy. >> Thank you. To listen to the audio. version of this episode, click the link. right here on the screen to subscribe. And of course, to see more video. content, that subscribe button's on the. screen as well.