MAJOR UPDATE from US Supreme Court
I'm joined now by US Senator Minnesota. and current gubernatorial candidate in. Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar. Thanks so much. for joining me. Well, thanks Brian. Great to be on. So, I want to talk about the um the new. news as it relates to the Supreme Court. Trump just came out in the aftermath of. the Supreme Court striking down his. tariffs and said that he's going to. basically double down. And so, he said. two things that I want to get your uh. get your read on. The first was that. there are going to be existing tariffs. under Section 232 and 301 that are going. to remain in place. And the second thing.
he said is that he's going to impose a. 10% global tariff, so a new tariff under. Section 122. Obviously, I'm not up on. these different tariff statutes, but I. want to get your um your read here in. terms of whether what he's saying is. true or not. I know you are super surprised that he. is not just accepting the decision of. the highest court of the land. I know. you're also super surprised that he. called them disloyal, unpatriotic, and. wait to boot, swayed by foreign. interests. And that includes Gorsuch,
Coney Barrett, and Roberts. That all. aside, he has had used several statutes. for tariffs. Uh two are the ones you mentioned that. are more traditionally used, that 232, which is about like national security. interests. Other presidents have used. that before on steel uh and things like. that, aluminum. And then the second one. is this 301, which is about violations. of tariff agreements. Those will still. stand. They are more narrow. There has.
to be an investigation. I don't I. actually have uh been in favor of using. those statutes for some things. That's. why we have tariffs, right? Especially. when steel dumping is going on and the. like. But again, he's overused them. But. let's go to what really happened here. The IEEPA statute, sounds cute but. isn't, is the one that he used to assess. these across-the-board tariffs. That's. where the court said, "Wait a minute. It. doesn't have the word tariff in it. You.
can't do it this way." So his response, of course, was to go after the justices. and also to go after, I guess, the. chamber and all the small businesses. that brought the case. But now, here's. this kind of scary part in terms of the. future. He has said that he's going to use. another statute, and that's was your. second question, 122. This really hasn't been used in that. way. I don't believe it'll be upheld. I. don't know, but there is a catch with. this, which is why he didn't use it. before.
After 150 days, Congress can step in and. say, "Uh no, we're not going to extend. this." Congress has recently shown, by. passing something to throw out the. Canadian tariffs, that even some of. Republicans are realizing this is. horrible economic policy and voting with. us to get rid of the tariffs. So that's. a problem he's got under that thing, plus is it even legal? Will it even fit. it? Is he even going to do what he says? And then, meanwhile, we've got people. that are going to want refunds, including every consumer in America that.
lost $1,700 last year. Um but that. aside, it's a lot of importers in the. US. Well, how will it be passed on? That's what he should be focused on. But. instead, he's just lashing out at. everyone and blaming everyone else. instead of taking responsibility for. getting our economy on a better track. If he does move forward with the. implementation of the 10% global tariff. under Section 122, which it seems like. he's hell-bent on doing, and he has, what, you said 150 days to to that this.
lasts 150 days before it has to be. reauthorized by Congress, is that. correct? >> Mhm. So I mean, isn't that putting. Republicans in a miserable position of. having to now, uh. be the ones to shoulder the burden in an. election year of continuing tariffs that. are already unpopular, already raising. the prices of everything from food to. clothing to uh to toys to electronics. Like isn't isn't that screwing over his. own party just months before the voters. are going to be casting their ballots? But he doesn't seem to care. He.
literally called the Supreme Court. justices, the conservatives he had put. on there rhinos at this press. conference. I heard it. I couldn't even. and that's why I don't think he cares. And so they have already started to say. of course behind closed doors over and. over again especially northern states. telling them that these Canadian tariffs. are a disaster. Carney, who's a smart. prime minister, is starting to make. deals with other countries. What else is. he supposed to do? And we're going to. lose long-term markets because of these.
tariffs. So who knows what he'll say. tomorrow, but today the response was. anger and chaos, which is what we're. used to every day from this White House. Um the checks on him? The midterms big big massive check on. him. Uh the court clearly at times will stand. up. And the people of this country who. in poll after poll, especially now. independents, moderate Republicans, are. saying they hate the cost, they hate the. chaos, they hate the corruption. Okay,
so what I want to I want to switch gears. here. You have announced your. gubernatorial run in Minnesota. What's. going to be your priority as governor of. Minnesota? Well, Minnesota has been through a lot. and that's not sugarcoating it because. we've had of course the assassination of. former speaker Melissa Hortman and her. husband, 20-some people gunned down. little kids in a church through stained. glass windows, and then the current, which is 3,000 ICE agents on our street.
with Minnesotans standing up and showing. the world that we're not just a center. of America's heartbreak, we're also the. center of America's hope and courage. So. I learned from Governor Walz at the end. of the year that. the beginning of this year that he had. decided that he wasn't going to run. And. I had to make a very quick decision. I. love my job. I think you know that. And but I love my state more. So my. focus.
the being the governor of the state of. Minnesota if the people give me that. trust is going to be to be a. transformative governor. We need to get. to a higher ground and to me that means. getting stuff done for our state. I've. got a track record of doing that. It. means bringing people together. If I can. pass a bill with Ted Cruz while Donald. Trump is in office, I can do some pretty good things for our. state. And then the third thing is. standing up for what's right. We don't. need a rubber stamp of Donald Trump. I.
have seven Republican opponents right. now. So it's standing up for what's. right, but it's also fixing what's. wrong. And so I'm really excited about this. campaign right now. All right, so give. me some specifics. What would you like. to see at the end of you know, let's say. you've got two terms of of of governor. of Minnesota under your belt. If you've. accomplished what would make it a. success? Bringing costs down for the people of. Minnesota. That means more housing. That means child care. There's all kinds.
of innovative things going around around. our state that I think would be really. helpful. And it means bringing health. care costs down. I also want to get to a. point in our state. where people feel good again. about what's going on in our country. Some of that of course is going to be. changing who's in the White House. But a lot of it is going to be getting. to a better place in our own state. Our. state is the state that brought the. world everything from the pacemaker to. the post-it note. And we've got to. conquer our next frontier and that's.
going to be educating our kids and. making sure that people can buy their. first house. So that's what I'm going to do as. governor. And it is a time like no. other. And for me I've been just telling. everyone that's been 50,000 people and I. was in that March who stood up when it. was 10 below zero and marched that this. is our moment to not look away, to not. look down, but to look at each other and. look up to the North Star and move. forward together. So part of this as a.
leader is just bringing that sense of. optimism in one of the toughest times. we've ever seen. And I do that in the. memory of Alex. gunned down in the middle of the day or. Renee Good. We know how hard this is. going to be for their families in the. year. But our state has stood with them. and I will continue to stand with them. In the event that Trump continues to use. Minnesota as a punching bag and we've. seen that happen thus far.
with these ice deployments at the hands. of a rogue agency that feels like they. can commit crimes with impunity. What is. your plan to step up and stand up to. this administration? Well, the first is the work I can do as. a senator. This We know what happened. this summer where I strongly opposed the. big beautiful betrayal of a bill 75. billion dollars. going to this agency and that is what. allowed them to hire up the way they did. with no training 47 days training.
putting in place a bounty system. When. all is said and done, I think the. country's going to learn that a lot of. times when they picked up legal citizens. and threw them in the car and then threw. them out of the car in the freezing cold. four blocks later or brought them. illegally to a detention center that. this is going to be because they got a. bounty for each person. The lack of. cameras, the refusal to take off their. masks, the fact that they didn't use. warrants, all of this has to change. So. I figure my job in the next few months.
as a senator will be advocate for not. putting all this plowing all this money. into this agency. Uh one proposal is if. you really want to put it into making. people safe, why don't you take the. extra money that ICE got and put it into. local law enforcement to help our. communities. Um so that's. going on and then the second part of. this is following up and making sure. these investigations, working with. Attorney General Ellison, um and other. prosecutors in our state because Pam.
only has already said, the Justice. Department has said, "We're not sharing. the information um from these. investigations with the local. prosecutors." This is unheard of in our. state. When the kids were shot in the. church, when Melissa Hortman was gunned. down, the federal, and this is during. the Trump administration, the federal. agents worked incredibly well with our. very professional State Bureau of. Criminal Apprehension. So that's another. part of my job to make sure we're. following through um on um allowing the.
Minnesota departments um to. have a transparent and full. investigation of these killings. As. governor, even though DHS isn't sharing. any information, DHS and FBI aren't. sharing any information with state. investigators at at the BCA, uh will you. commit, regardless of the fact that. they're stonewalling you, blocking you, um to holding anybody to to to pursuing. some investigation to make sure that if, you know, these ICE agents were indeed.
found to have uh uh murdered Alex Pretty. and or Renee Good, that they're going to. be held to account despite the federal. government refusing to hold them to. account? Of course, and that will be in. the hands of our prosecutors and. Minnesota Attorney General Keith. Ellison. So they are doing that, but. I I would hope that that investigation. would conclude before I even um got into. the governor's office because it's going. to be an entire uh 9 months. And that. Bureau of Crim- Criminal Apprehension,
which is run by a complete pro who's. been supported by both Democratic and. Republican legislators who defended him. when the Trump administration attacked. him, a guy named Drew Evans. Um, he is. going to continue under Governor Walz. that investigation and I would hope that. it would be concluded even before a new. governor would come in. But of course I. would support that investigation. >> We'll leave it there. Senator Klobuchar, as always, thanks so much for your time. >> Okay, thank you. See you later. >> [music].
