LIVE: Pam Bondi testifies for Congress amid Epstein coverup

Bren is going to be indicted. [clears throat]. >> What I can confirm is that we have. received a referral from you, Chairman. Jordan, um to investigate John Brennan. His attorneys have made some public. statements. Um but the department is. still bound, of course, by our. long-standing policy of not discussing. matters. What I will say today, I can't. confirm. nor deny whether there is a pending. investigation, but what I will say is no.

one is above the law. >> Mr. Chairman, >> weaponization has ended. >> Yeah. >> Point of order, Mr. Chairman. >> Gentleman from New York is recognized. for a point of order. >> Um, if we want to know whether Mr. Brennan will be indicted, you should. just ask the president. >> Not a point of order, but I appreciate. that trying to make it one. Um, the. gentleman from Georgia is uh is. recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, General. Bondi, it's been reported that uh there. were at one point 1,000 um personnel.

assigned to the task of identifying and. scrubbing Donald Trump's name from the. Epstein files. Were those reports uh. accurate? I believe his name has appeared. countless times in the document. >> There are how many people were released? If if I if I could if I could finish, I'm going to read you the stats.

>> I just simply asked whether or not it. was true that it was 1,000 folks who. were assigned that task. Were those reports accurate? >> There are more than 500 attorneys and. reviewers. I cannot give you an exact. number. >> and and I wanted to ask you I wanted to. ask you about that also because this is. a different question that you're getting. to now. There were 500. uh DOJ lawyers and um and others.

assigned the task of redacting the uh. appropriate information including uh. identities of the Epstein victim. survivors from the Epstein files prior. to their release. 500. Is that correct? If I could have finished my answer, there were more than 500 attorneys and. reviewers who assisted with the answers. I don't want an answer.

>> That answers my question, ma'am. And I'm. going to move on. >> I'm going to move on from Bundy. Would. you agree? Time belongs to the time. belongs to the to the gentleman from. Georgia. General Bundy, would you agree. that your eight years of service as uh. the state of Florida's attorney general, the third largest state in the nation, served as an excellent preparation for. your current role as attorney general. for the United States of America. >> Not only that, I was a career prosecutor. for 18 years. And for 18 years and for.

18 years for 18 years, he ask a question. and doesn't want an answer. This is. theatric. >> Well, no. For 18 years, you prosecuted. uh serious felony cases uh including uh. drug cases. Correct. >> Oh, I prosecuted homicides. I prosecuted. capital cases. I prosecuted domestic. violence cases. I prosecuted multiple. cases. And that's why I feel for all of. these victims. And did you ask Merritt. Garland this while you were sitting.

before? also prosecuted sexual assault. cases and uh child sex trafficking. cases. Correct. >> I answered that question earlier. I've. prosecuted multiple cases when bottom. line experienced and season 18 years. Mr. Chairman, will you remind her of the. rules? The time belongs to the member of. the committee. You are a seasoned times. an experienced prosecutor. Correct.

I think we've established that. >> Yes or no? >> Does he want an answer or not? >> He wants to say want a yes or no answer. >> I think he wants to say yes or no. answer. But I'll I'll live with what you. have already said. Let me ask you let me. ask you this questions. Clearly the. prosecution of sexual assault cases. You. are acutely aware of how important it is. to protect the identity of victims of. sexual assault. Correct.

I have addressed this multiple times. I. think others were cutting me off when I. was trying to. >> I just simply asked, are you aware of. the fact that it's vitally important to. protect the identity of sexual assault. victims as you prosecute their uh the. people they accuse of assaulting them? Isn't that correct? As we have said, >> excuse me, as we have said multiple. times, >> protection of the protection of all.

victims. >> of the victims are protected. You are. protected under Do you want me to answer. or do you want to interrupt? >> Well, cuz you're not answering the. question. You you do a jackal and hide. kind of routine around here. >> and I just want you to answer my. questions. >> What does jackal and hide mean? Well, it. means you're nice to the Republicans and. you turn like uh hide on on on uh. Democrats. But let me ask you this, ma'am. We have the Epstein victim. survivors.

here today. Representative Gyaul asked a. simple question. If you would be so kind. and honorable as to turn around and face. them and apologize to them for outing. them. I mean, how much. how many lives have been derailed. because your department was either. sloppy and incompetent or willfully. trying to intimidate and punish these.

ladies forward. >> The time of the gentleman was the time. of the gentleman has expired. The. gentleman yields back. The chair now. recognizes the gentleman from Wisconsin. for five minutes. Attorney General Bond.

who just a few years ago were openly. supporting strong immigration. enforcement after witnessing criminal. illegal aliens wreak havoc on the. American. communities. Uh, I have a short video I just wanted. to play. >> Of immigrants, we're also a nation of. laws. Undocumented workers broke our. immigration laws and I believe that they. must be held accountable. >> They've committed a crime. Deport them.

No questions asked. They're gone. >> No great nation. can be in a position where they can't. control their borders. While we need to. address the issue of immigration and and. the challenge we have of undocumented. people in our country, we certainly. don't want any more coming in. >> Every place in this country are rightly. disturbed by the large numbers of. illegal aliens entering our country. The. jobs they hold might otherwise be held. by citizens or legal immigrants. The.

public service they use impose burdens. on our taxpayers. That's why our. administration has moved aggressively to. secure our borders more. By hiring a. record number of new border guards, by. deporting twice as many criminal aliens. as ever before, by cracking down on. illegal hiring, by barring welfare. benefits to illegal aliens. >> Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and. simple. When we use phrases like. undocumented workers, we convey a. message to the American people that.

their government is not serious about. combating illegal immigration, which the. American people overwhelmingly oppose. If you don't think it's illegal, you're. not going to say it. I think it is. illegal and wrong. >> Open the borders. My god, you know, there's a lot of poverty in this world. and you're going to have people from all. over the world and I I don't think. that's something that we can do at this. point. Can't do it. >> Yes or no? Would you allow the cities to. ignore the federal law? >> No. >> We simply cannot allow people to pour. into the United States undetected,

undocumented, unchecked, and. circumventing the line of people who are. waiting patiently, diligently, and. lawfully uh to become immigrants in this. country. So, Attorney General Bondi, um, what's the Trump administration DOJ. doing to end the open border policies of. the prior administration that saw. dangerous drugs and criminal aliens.

flood our communities. Congressman, President Trump has worked. tirelessly, as you know, to close our. border, which is what the Democrats had. asked for in that video. President Trump. closed our borders on day one. He is. protecting Americans. He is protecting. our kids from the influx of drugs that. were flowing into this country from. Mexico. The fentanyl precursors that.

were coming from China. These precursors. were taken from China into Mexico. And. in Mexico, they were mixed and freely. taken right into our country along with. gang members, MS-13, TDA, freely coming. into our cities around our country. thanks to Joe Biden's open border. policies. That has stopped under Donald. Trump. it will no longer happen under.

this administration. And he is doing. everything to keep Americans safe. And. let me let me continue. When he was. elected, overwhelmingly by the American. people, the majority of the American. people wanted Donald Trump, one of the. main reasons was border security and. keeping Americans safe. And that's. exactly what he did. And that's why. today the other side sits here. They. yell. They cut me off. They they want to. yell. They want to ask a question and. don't want answers because they want to.

distract from all the great things that. this president and this administration. working hand inand and that includes. Secretary Gnome who has closed our. borders and Tom Hman who has closed our. borders to keep Americans safe and. they're trying to distract from that and. they're not going to do it because the. American people are smarter than that. and they see through their theatrics. >> Thank you. Just quickly, uh, yesterday. Senator Grassley reached out to my. office to tell me that I was one of the.

20 members, uh, that was now disclosed. were under surveillance from Jack Smith. Uh, this brings up the question of. non-disclosure orders and whether or not. they should apply to members of. Congress. But with my phone records. being surveiled as well as looks like 19. other members of Congress, I'm just. wondering how do DOJ views that. time is gentle has expired, but the. gentle lady can respond. >> As I stated earlier, Congressman, anyone's um records who were illegally.

obtained, Democrat or Republican, we. will fight vigorously to stop that. Anything with Arctic Frost, I can't. discuss right now. >> And isn't it true, Madam Attorney. General, the DOJ's changed their policy? You can't you can't do that now. The DJ. is not going to go do that and ask the. judge for for an NDO. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. Good. That that that in and of. itself tells you why this how wrong it. was. The chair now recognizes the. gentleman from California. >> Great. Thank you. Madam Attorney. General, you acknowledged earlier to Mr. Johnson that President Trump was.

mentioned and the release countless. times. You said in the Epstein files. I. I just want to play a video though for. you that I think speaks to the. frustration that many of these victims. have. of times Trump's name appears in the. files. So it could at least be a. thousand times. Is that right? >> The number is a total misleading factor. We have not released anyone's name. We. have not released anyone's name in the. episode filed that has not been. credible. >> Director, could it release every piece.

of legally permissible information? You. can characterize the numbers however you. want it. >> Claim me my time. Director, it sounds. like if you don't know the number, it. could at least be a thousand times. >> It's not. >> Is it at least 500 times? >> No. >> Is it at least 100 times? >> No. >> Then what's the number? >> I don't know the number. [laughter]. >> I understand why the victims are. frustrated. And the attorney general. acknowledged what Mr. Patel would not. acknowledge that it was way more than a. thousand times. But I I want to move, madam attorney general, to weaponization.

of government. And yesterday it was. reported that six members of Congress. had indictments sought against him and. they were not returned by a grand jury. My colleagues have spoken about their. frustration of being in subpoenas and. having cell phone records uh combed. through. Well, in 2017 and 2018, Adam. Schiff and I had our cell phone records. and email records combed through, not by. you, but a different department of. justice under the president. It was in. retaliation for our role in the Russia.

interference campaign. An inspector. general report would find this improper. and that the predicate for it was. absurd. In 2020, after sitting on two. committees that were a part of the. president's first impeachment, an FBI. agent leaked my cooperation in a. national security case where my campaign. was targeted. The president's FBI senior. leadership authorized two statements to. the press that said I was never. suspected of wrongdoing and only helped. the investigation. But that didn't stop. the death threats or my GOP colleagues.

from referring me to an ethics. investigation where Kevin McCarthy's. chairman on the ethics committee would. find the same thing as the FBI. Our. current FBI director would then write a. book called Government Gangsters and. identify a long list of enemies. About a. quarter of them have been either. investigated or indicted. He listed me. at the very top along with Adam Schiff. and during that same testimony refused. to recuse himself when asked if he would. recuse if any case came across his desk. involving me or people on that list.

Since that testimony, his department has. put me under investigation with Senator. and Schiff for the nonsense mortgage. fraud cases that we've seen. I get it. This is what the president does. I've. priced it in. We have a bingo card at. home that my kids have made of what will. come next. I expected that the president. would come after his enemies. But what I. want to talk to you next is serious, and. I did not expect this would happen, and. I'd like your help on it. The president. has inspired death threats against me. and many sitting up here with me. In.

June 2025, an individual left 11. voicemails at my district office. On the. voicemails, they said, "Get the message. to him. I'm going to hunt him down, that. and toss his ass over the. Golden Gate Bridge by my self. Donald Trump's Department of Justice in. the Northern District of California. declined to prosecute. On May 14, 2025, on Twitter, responding to something I. posted, an individual said, "No, it. wasn't, Eric, and now I'm going to kill. you." The Department of Justice from the.

Southern District of Texas declined to. prosecute. May through December of 2025, we received messages at my office that. said, "I hope somebody shoots you and. your children and your wife in the. head." Pew pew, Pew, pew. I would stay indoors as much as possible. and my children unfortunately have to do. that. The Department of Justice has not. charged this individual and cited that. he's a prolific caller and has health. conditions. Although what we have found. in our investigation and his voicemails. is that he has said he will employ.

others to do this. The president can. come after me. It's fine. I'm in the. arena. So are these folks. But we never. expected that the Department of Justice. would not seek to prosecute and. investigate those who are making threats. against us. And that would include those. on that side of the aisle. And I help. I'm just asking for your help to protect. life because life is at risk with the. environment we're in right now. >> Congressman, I completely agree with. you. Uh I I know about several of those.

personally involving you. Um I believe. one has been charged publicly and. there's something I would be happy to. talk to you about um off camera. Um but. I can assure you that they are very. serious. They are being looked into and. I I can give you more details on those. None of you should be threatened ever. None of your children should be. threatened. None of your families should. be threatened and I will work with you. can come into my office any day. I will.

work with all of you on both sides of. the aisle if you are ever threatened and. and I would gladly talk to you after. this hearing about your cases, but I can. tell you some of them are very active. >> Appreciate that. And yield back. >> Gentleman yields back and we're sorry. for what the gentleman and his family. have had to go had had to go through. We. appreciate what the attorney general. said. Um, and I think some of the things. that the gentleman from California. related, we can all relate to, and it's. it's unfortunate, it's wrong, as the. attorney general said, and we we. appreciate the help we get from uh the.

Justice Department. Uh, with that, we. will now recognize the gentleman from. New Jersey, Mr. Van Drew. >> Thank you, Chairman. I don't know where. to begin. Thank you for being here, General. Right. See when I'm right in. front of you. Um, I I just I I have to. mention this first. You know, I use this. word before and my friends on the other. side of the aisle got mad at me, but. hypocrisy. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. But for years. on the other side of the aisle, we heard.

nothing. Crickets, not a word. Nothing. was said when they were in control. Nothing was mentioned basically to last. summer. And the ranking member points. out that he did do something last year. Yeah, he did a letter complaining about. the plea deal for Maxwell, but it wasn't. a big deal. Then we get a new. administration and all of a sudden it's. a big deal and they they feign concern. They're upset. They're investigating. They had all these years and all this. time. And in fact, Stacy Plaskin, we all.

know that name, when they had a. congressional hearing, Democratic. member, were taking texts from Epstein. on questions to ask to go after Trump. So Epstein was using her Democratic. colleague as a tool to go after. President Trump. Just everybody keep. that in mind. And then we talk about ICE. and how horrible it is and and there are. concerns. Everybody wants everything to. go right. Nobody ever wants to see. somebody die. and they complain about it, but at the.

same time, hypocrisy. They encourage. constituents to go after the ICE agents. to challenge them, to hurt them, to. attack them. And that doesn't make. sense. That's hypocrisy. And then we. hear about the concern of, you know, going after Democrats, that the legal. system, that judiciary and Department of. Justice is going after Democrats, but they re literally rework the legal. system under Alvin Bragg and Leticia. James to go after Republicans and those.

sympathetic to Republicans. So, I mean, be careful when you accuse others that. you're not guilty yourself. Be careful of what you say because you. got a history and it's easy to go over. it. You know, I just want to talk about. where we were and where we are now. We. had over 10 million illegal crossings in. the past between 2020 and 24. Over 10. million. There's probably a much bigger. number. I'm being conservative. We were. told the people weren't dangerous, but. they were, General. They were dangerous.

Many of them more than 300 individuals. on the terror watch list during that. time. Violent criminals came across as. we saw consequences where mothers and. fathers, daughters and son, children. were raped, murdered, hurt, abused, beaten, trafficked, all from the drugs. My god, the drugs they brought into our. babies in this country. 73,000. illegals with criminal histories. 20,000. with convictions of assault, robbery,

and sex offenses. 13,000 convicted. murderers in our beautiful country. 15,000 convicted sexual assault. offenders. It was madness. It was. insanity. It's bizarre. It's perverse. What in God's name were you doing? So, we finally are cleaning this up now. We're finally trying to make it right. and safe for our people. So, my. questions are this. General, do you. believe in removing criminal illegal. aliens from our communities will save.

American lives? >> Yes. And given the the cases that you. just discussed, that's proof of it every. single day. President Trump is committed. to that. This entire cabinet is. committed to that and making and keeping. Americans safe. >> Thank you. Would you agree that, and. thank you for doing that, would you. agree that allowing individuals with. known criminal histories to enter and. remain in the United States, we knew. this back then, they knew it, it would. you agree that creates serious risks to.

our public safety? I know the answers, but let's just say them clearly. Yes. >> Would you agree that when dangerous. individuals are released instead of. detained and they were released over and. over and over again and these are the. real issues? This is really what America. cares about. They want their children. and their families to be safe. Do you think if you release them instead. of detaining them that crimes will. happen because of that? >> Absolutely. >> Would you agree that I'm sorry? >> And it did. >> And it did. Thank you. Would you agree.

that cooperation between and this is a. biggie and I'm going to ask you to. elaborate on this. This is a big deal. This is why some of the problems we're. seeing in some of the places like. Minnesota are happening. That. cooperation between federal and local. enforcement, which we always used to. have, helps remove violent offenders. from our communities that we should be a. team. >> Yes. >> And can you elaborate on that a little. bit? In other words, when the local. enforcement is forced by the.

politicians, not their fault, not to do. their job and not cooperate, why does it. create the situations that we see where. we have need for crowd control? By the. way, they're not peaceful. Those are not. peaceful protesters. We know what a. peaceful protester is. When you spit on. on law enforcement, when you push them, when you hit them, when you beat their. card, if you can answer the question. Thank you. Time back. >> You may answer the question. >> Thank you. Yes, I spent four days myself. in Minnesota, in Minneapolis. Um, what I.

will say about some of these sanctuary. cities, some of these Democratic cities, law enforcement, they quietly want to. work with us. I've spoken to law. enforcement in multiple cities um who. want to work with us. And yes, we're. going to do everything we can to keep. our citizens safe whether or not these. um Democratcontrolled. sanctuary cities do or don't. >> And damn it, that's what really matters. I yield time as expired. >> Mr. Chair, I have a UC.

>> Um Miss Crockett from Texas is. recognized for UC. >> Thank you so much. Donald Trump's. approval rating implodes on his. strongest issue. This is from Newsweek. today. It says 40% of people approve of. Trump's handling of and border security. while 60% disapproved. >> Without objection, admitted. Now I. recognize the gentleman from California, Mr. Lou.

>> Thank you, Attorney General Bondi, for. being here today. I'm going to show you. two photos. >> Thank you. >> I'm going to show you two photos of. former Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew. attended various parties with Jeffrey. Epstein. Under the law Congress passed, you were allowed to redact photos to. protect the victims of Epstein's sex. trafficking operation. You redacted the. photos of this victim's face because you.

were following the congressional law. Is. that correct? I'm sorry that we redacted the victim's. >> because you following the congressional. law, correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. You have now established that we Please. put the photos back up. That we are. looking at a sex trafficking victim. Under the Federal Victims Trafficking. Protection Act, not only is Jeffrey. Epstein guilty, but anyone who.

patronizes Epstein's sex operation is. also guilty of a crime. That's why I. find it absolutely despicable that you. sought to protect Epstein's clients like. former Prince Andrew. Last July, you. closed the case on Epstein's abusers. The July 2025 memo from your Department. of Justice stated, quote, "We did not. uncover evidence that could predicate an. investigation against uncharged third.

parties.". These two photos, please put the photos. back up. These two photos staring you in. the face are evidence of a crime and. more than enough evidence to predicate. an investigation against former Prince. Andrew. So, I ask you, Attorney General. Pam Bondi, why did you shut down this. investigation last July? And why have. you not prosecuted former Prince Andrew? >> I don't believe you asked Merrick. Garland these questions when he was um.

attorney general and set before. >> I agree with you. I'm playing my time. I. agree with you. I agree with you. During. the during the Biden administration, I. called for people looking at Epstein. files. Mayor Garland dropped the ball as. did Attorney General Bill Barr, as did. Alex Acasta. A whole string of failures, but you are in charge. You have the. power to change things, to hold these. men accountable, and you're doing the. opposite. You're protecting them. So, I. want to move on to another man. >> Can I answer Donald Trump? I want to. move on another question.

>> Answer your question about protecting. >> You answered the question. >> You're saying no. I love this. >> I want to discuss another man, Donald. Trump, who is all over the Epstein files. like former Prince Here's the video. [music]. >> [music]. >> Like former Prince Andrew, Donald Trump.

attended various parties with Jeffrey. Epstein. I want to know, were there any. underage girls at that party or at any. party that Trump attended with Jeffrey. Epstein? This is so ridiculous. and that they are. trying to deflect. from all the great things Donald Trump. has done. There is no evidence that. Donald Trump has committed a crime.

Everyone knows that this has been the. most transparent presidency. He's the. one that those reclaim my time. I got. your answer. You said there's no. evidence. Trumpman, please my time the. legislation. This This is my time. This. time belongs to the gentleman from. California. >> Okay. I'm going to put up another. document from a witness who called the. FBI's National Threat Operations Center. because I believe you just lied under. oath. There is ample evidence in the.

Epstein fun. >> Don't you ever accuse me of a crime. >> I believe you just lied under oath and. this is all on videotape. You said. there's no evidence of crime. I'm. showing you here is. >> a witness statement who called into the. FBI's threat operations center. He drove. Donald Trump around in a limo. He. overheard what Donald Trump said to. Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so. angry he was going to stop a limo and. hurt Donald Trump. And he met a girl who. said she was raped by Donald Trump and. Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head.

blown off and officers at the scene said. that could not have been suicide. No one no one at the Department of. Justice interviewed this witness. You. need to interview this witness. immediately. Epstein should rot in hell. So should. the men who patronize his operation. And as we say here today, there are over. 1,000 sex trafficking victims. And you. have not held a single man accountable.

Shame on you. If you had any decency, you would resign right after this. hearing concludes. >> Gentleman has expired. Uh. >> May I respond? >> Yeah, I don't know how you respond. No. one can. did not ask a question. Mr. I. did not ask question in California. He. does not want to talk about I did not. ask a question in his state attorney. I. did not ask a question. >> Committee will be in order. The. gentleman has yielded back his time. I. think our next witness will be more than. happy to uh let the attorney general.

>> Madam Attorney General, would you like. to. >> Gentleman from Alabama is recognized for. five minutes? >> You have you have a few minutes to. >> Thank you, Congressman. This this is. what Congressman Lou didn't want to talk. about. He didn't want to talk about. all the crime that is happening in his. state. California refuses to honor detainees. because of its dangerous sanctuary city. policies. The refusal means California. has released 4,561.

criminal illegal aliens, criminal. illegal aliens onto its street. The. crimes of these aliens include 31. homicides, 661. assaults, 574. burglaries, 184 robberies, 100 1,489. dangerous drug offenses, 379.

weapons offenses, and 234. sexual ual predator offenses. That's why. they are deflecting. That's why they're. trying to talk about the Epstein files. That's currently happening in his home. state. Attorney General, thank you for being. here and I wanted to make sure you had. time to respond. Uh, I'm going to change. gears a little bit and and uh um in. October when you were testifying before.

the Senate, I know you and my friend. Senator Katie Britt discussed concerns. of infiltration of the illegal Chinese. vapes into our country. As a father of. three, obviously I'm worried a little. bit about this and I believe that many. parents in the country share our similar. concerns. Can you provide an update on. DOJ's work in this space over the past. few months? >> Yes, and and thank you for bringing that. up. We're talking about the the vapes. Um, and this should be an issue where. both sides of the aisle can work. together on. Parents need to understand,

children need to understand that so many. of these are being manufactured in. China, sent to our country, and have the. potential to be laced with lethal drugs. We've seen an overdose. We need to get. on the front end of this before we have. another crisis and children are dying. I've partnered with Secretary Kennedy, of course, at HHS on this matter, but. thank you for bringing it up. You know, they're selling these things um as.

flavored vapes illegally in many stores. around the country. Um, we, Secretary. Kennedy and I actually did a we went and. and did something on this and and it was. sadly the day that Charlie Kirk was. assassinated and so it didn't get a lot. of attention. Nor should it have after. that happened. But yes, we're continuing. to work on that and thank you for for. bringing that up. That's happening in. all of our states. And I would ask. everyone here, I know Congresswoman Ross.

was just nodding, it's happening in. every state. And not only are they laced. with THC, many of these vapes, but they. could be laced with fentanyl. We have. had a child I I wish I could think of. the state it was in, but we have already. had someone overdose. And we got we have. to get together on this and we have to. get on the front end of this. And I. would love to work across the aisle on. this to protect our kids. How many. school kids do you see now vaping? And. it's not only I I believe a vape has 20.

cigarettes, but but you know that's. that's one vape is 20 cigarettes. I I. believe it is, but also what they could. be laced with because so many of them, the majority of them are manufactured in. China. >> Sure. And if you need additional. resources, please let us know as you're. going through the process. And I'm going. to change gears one more time on you. >> Um, under the Biden administration, there was a lot of confused uh or a lot. of confusion created when parts of the. DOJ began treating software developers. like financial institutions. Even when.

they did not hold or control anyone's. money, they were simply building the. technology. That uncertainty c made it. harder for Americans to build innovate. here at home. Earlier this year, the. deputy attorney general issued a memo. tit entitled uh ending regulations by. prosecution. a clear a clear break from. the Biden administration's approach and. and I think it's important that we. that's a good step in the right. direction. But can you talk a bit about. how the DOJ is now putting that memo. into practice especially when it comes. to making sure that people are just. writing the software and don't control.

the users funds and aren't we don't want. them treated as an unlicensed money or. they're un they're not money. transmitters. So. >> yes and we're doing everything. Gentleman yields back as jump for. Arizona for unanimous consent. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a number. of UC's.

>> Gentlemen can proceed. >> Thank you. Bombshell new docs show Trump. called police about Epstein in 2006. >> Without objection. >> Kla Harris defends Biden administration. decision not to release Epstein files. Without objection. >> Why weren't they released during the. Biden administration? >> Without objection. >> House Democrat Stacy Plask exchanged. texts with Epstein during 2019. congressional hearing. >> Without objection. >> New York judge allows Epstein victim's. claims against Plasket to proceed. >> Objection. >> Hakee Jeffrey solicited funding from. Epstein in 2013 after finance year was.

convicted child sex offender. >> Objection. Jeffrey Epstein was invited. to DIM fundraising dinner and to get to. know Hakee Jeff by firm working with. Brooklyn's Barack. Without objection, >> an email from Lesie Gra to Jeffrey. Epstein uh concerning Hakee Jeff. fundraising. Uh Epstein file says Biden was replaced. in 2019. Question mark. >> Without objection. >> Thank you. Uh gentleman yields. Uh back.

The uh gentleman from California is. recognized. Mr. craft. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and uh welcome, Miss A.G. Bondi. I agree with you. Um. our top priority should be protecting. Americans. In my past life in the California State. Legislature, I did a lot of work on. solving sex crimes, passing legislation. to update our codes. Uh and I found that. the biggest challenge to solving sex. crimes is reporting them.

Victims have to have the guts to stand. up to report those sex crimes. But it's. not easy. It's the most unreported sex. crime there is. I mean crime there is is. sex crimes. It's painful, humiliating. A. lot of time the victims don't think. anything's going to come out of their. reporting these crimes. Then we have adults who as children were. molested, boys and girls, who will live.

in silence for the rest of their life. I believe the Epstein files are just one. of many sex ring, sex crimes taking. place in our society today. I hear 1,200. Epstein victims, some additional victims as young or 9 to. 10 years old. The challenge I have today, what bothers. me today about this hearing, Madame AG, is what's the message we're sending out. there on Main Street?

Shouldn't ask a question I don't know an. answer to, but I'm going to ask the. victims behind you right now. First, can. you please stand up? And then can you please raise your hand. if you think after everything you've. heard today, you feel that AG, the feds. have your back. Do we have your back? Raise your hand if you're confident that. we got your back. And that's the issue. Madame AG, we got to make sure that.

victims stand up and report the crimes. Otherwise, we're going to be taking step. backwards. Today, AI, cyber, social. media, the new realm for people to be. hurt, attacked sexually. These are the areas I'd welcome the. opportunity to work with you on. It's. not your problem. It's not my problem. It's our problem. But to have redacted. redacted files that are not showing us.

the names of these predators is wrong. These are very powerful people. This was a very expensive business. and we [clears throat] don't know who. they are. I don't imagine they're very. prominent Republicans, very Republican. Democrats and we are covering up for. them. We got to know what's going on out. there. Madam AG, I it looks like you. want to say something. I'm going to give.

the opportunity to address my statement. I look forward to working with you on. any crimes involving. child sex predators, children, and also. cyber crimes. That is a tremendous. problem now throughout our country. AI, you are correct, AI is causing um great. problems online regarding we're working. on that though. AI is an incredible. tool, but it also can be fraught with. peril with victims of of crime. I I've.

experienced that with someone I know who. we've been trying to help. I look. forward though to working with you on. that in all cyber crimes. Can I can I. >> please go ahead. >> and and as I said before to any victims. we ask them to come forward to our. office and we want to work with them. I. have never not worked with a victim and. I believe I've actually spoken to. several of you. >> Madam if I can reclaim my time me. >> I can reclaim my time. I just think we.

start out by making sure those. redactions are unredacted. those Epstein files to make sure that. the public, according to the law, following the law, that those names in. those files are made public. We have to. make sure we tell those predators there. is no place for them to hide and if they. commit the crime, they're going to fry. for it. It starts with showing us the. names of the perpetrators in the Epstein. files.

>> May I respond to that? >> Sure. >> Okay. So if any man's name was redacted. that should not have been, we will of. course unredact it. If a victim's name. was unredacted, please bring it to us. and we will redact it. We were given 30. days to review and redact and unredact. millions of pages of documents. Our. error rate is very low. The victims are.

right behind you. We've got to convince. them. >> that we're doing a good job. >> Everything we can protect the victims. We will do everything we can. >> I'm out of time. >> Gentleman yields back. The gentleman. from California, Mr. Kylie, is. recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh good morning, Madam Attorney General. I wanted to. return to a point uh that the chairman. raised at the beginning of this hearing. uh which is these jurisdictions uh that. refuse to offer to honor detainer. requests from immigr immigration and. customs enforcement often called. sanctuary uh jurisdictions. Uh now I.

know that you are not involved directly. in immigration operations per se but you. do deal with the legal issues uh. surrounding these jurisdictions. So. let's say we have someone who's here. illegally uh who has committed a crime. that like the thousands of people you. mentioned in California, murderers, sexual predators, uh drug traffickers. if that individual is uh in detention in. a jurisdiction that has a sanctuary. policy where they do not honor ICE. detainers versus uh in a any other. jurisdiction where they do. How does the.

nature of uh apprehending that person? How does the nature of ISIS's. involvement in that operation differ in. those two circumstances? >> Well, I believe you've seen that in. Minnesota where um where people were not. cooperating with us. I believe there a. lot of local law enforcement did want to. cooperate, but we are doing everything. in our power to arrest and deport. illegal criminal aliens. And that is not.

going to stop under Donald Trump's. administration. You know why sanctuary. cities are so dangerous? What we've seen. in Minneapolis, where do all the. criminals go? The crim the gangs, TDA, MS13, where are they going to go? they're going to go to a sanctuary. jurisdiction because they believe. they're protected and that's not fair to. the citizens of those cities. >> Yeah. And this is a point that there at. least used to be a lot of consensus on. uh the idea that you know it's better to. do uh a handoff to the immigration.

authorities in a custodial setting. rather than releasing them where they. have to be apprehended in the community. This is Alejandra Morcus when he was. before this committee. uh not exactly a. paragon of uh border security. Uh but he. said, "I do not consider it in the. service of public safety to release an. individual into the community when that. individual can be released to. immigration and customs enforcement for. prompt removal." Now, his words are one. thing. His actions are another. Uh but. when you have jurisdictions across the. country, including my state of. California, doing systematically.

precisely the thing that even Alejandra. Morcus said threatens public safety, I. mean, what does that say to you? It's a danger to the citizens of your. community and thank you for fighting to. protect them. >> Absolutely. And you know, we're having. this conversation right now in relation. to homeland security funding and I. believe there are some common sense. reforms that have been proposed that. folks on both sides uh would agree makes. sense. But those reforms have to go hand. inhand with reforming this reckless.

practice of refusing to cooperate, refusing to honor detainers, and. declaring oneself to be a sanctuary. So, I'm hoping that we can find bipartisan. support for what has long been a. bipartisan principle. uh want to go to a. second topic which is the schoolboard uh. memo uh which uh I know that you have uh. rescended and uh it was initially uh. promulgated by attorney general uh. Garland when uh he came into office with. President Biden uh essentially opening.

an investigation into parents who were. showing up at schoolboard meetings and. uh and expressing their views on COVID. policies, mass various other uh issues. uh and using the full apparatus of. federal law enforcement and. counterterrorism uh to go after these. parents. Now, he said this was because. there was an increase of threats, but. when uh even his own FBI director, Christopher Ray, was before this. committee, he said there was no evidence. of an increase in threats. Yet, nevertheless, when I asked him if he. regretted the memo, uh Attorney General.

Garland said there was absolutely. nothing wrong with the memo. Now, I take. it you disagree with that, having now. rescended it. >> Absolutely. That was one of the main. focuses of President Trump and this. administration. We will protect parents. at school boards. We will protect. children in schools. We will protect. parents rights for their children's. education. in our school system in this country. We. will protect Christians. We will protect.

everyone who wants to freely protest. If. Christians want to protest in front of. an abortion clinic without being. arrested, they will do so. >> Thank you very much. And and finally, uh. I thank you for your efforts to step up. uh the detection and rooting out of. fraud. Uh my home state is California. Any idea if there might be any fraud. going on in California? Well, we are. establishing, as you have heard, um, a. fraud unit, and I'm sorry you're having. to deal with that in your state, but the. Calvary is coming and we have Colin.

[clears throat] McDonald who is. hopefully will be confirmed soon. We're. working on Minneapolis. I don't know if. you were sitting here when I said that, but California was um was right up. there. I'm sorry to say for both sides. of the aisle that California is right up. there with fraud. It's it's out of. control, but we are coming to your. rescue. Donald Trump is coming to the. rescue. >> Well, thank you very much. And. unfortunately, I think you'll find that. what's happening in California pales in. comparison to what's been going on in. Minnesota. Uh, thank you. I yield back. >> Gentleman yields back. The gentleman. from Maryland's recognized. >> Um, actually, I think the gentle lady.

from Pennsylvania from Pennsylvania is. recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Miss Bondi, I'm. here. On September 25th, President Trump. signed a memorandum known as NSPM7. purporting to address domestic. terrorism. But Americans across the. political spectrum were immediately. alarmed by the memo's blurring of the. line between unlawful conduct and. constitutionally protected speech and. activity, as well as its call to.

investigate, prosecute, and dismantle. groups that the president and Steven. Miller described without evidence as. quote an organized campaign of radical. left terrorism. Now, counterterrorism. experts were further alarmed by the. administration's singular focus on. left-wing extremism, combined with the. sudden deletion from the DOJ website of. decades of research and law enforcement. analysis, which had concluded that.

right-wing extremism possesses poses the. greatest terrorism threat to Americans. The president's memo broadly and vaguely. links violent conduct to ideologies and. it targeted specifically anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti- capitalist. beliefs as well as quote hostility to. so-called traditional American views on. family religion and morality. End quote. President Trump has repeatedly and. openly, however falsely, tried to brand.

his political opponents with these. sentiments listed in his memo. But as. you know as a lawyer, holding beliefs. that the White House disagrees with is. not a crime. And the statute defining. domestic terrorism requires criminal. acts, not just thoughts and ideas. That's why legal experts, nonprofit. leaders, religious freedom, and civil. rights advocates immediately raised the. alarm that the new presidential. directive was a politically motivated. attack on civil society designed to.

silence those who disagree with the. administration. So, Miss Bondi, section. three of that memo directed you as. attorney general to submit to the. president and Steven Miller a list of. groups or entities whose members are. engaged in acts that meet the definition. of domestic terrorism. And then on. December 4th, you directed the FBI to. work with a variety of law enforcement. uh entities to compile a list of groups. and entities engaged in such acts. by.

January 3rd, 2026, and to update that. report every 30 days thereafter. So, can. we assume that you or persons under your. direction at at the Department of. Justice have prepared that list of. groups or entities who are designated as. domestic terrorist organizations? And I. just remind you that's a yes or no. question. Did you prepare? >> I'm not going to answer it yes or no. But what I what I will say is I know. Antifa is part of that. I will I will. talk to you about that. February 5th,

2025, an Antifa member was arrested in. Minneapolis. Did you ask a question and don't want an. answer? This. >> the answer is yes. >> Time belongs to the gentle lady from. Pennsylvania. Gentle lady can proceed. >> Okay. So. will you commit to providing this. committee with any list of organizations. that you have recommended be designated. as domestic terrorist organizations?

>> We will comply with the law in all. matters. Will you commit to provide this. committee with your list of um entities. that you recommend be um designated as. domestic terrorist organizations? >> I'm not going to commit to anything to. you because you won't let me answer. questions. >> Okay. Well, then we do understand that. your current position is that you have a. secret list of people or groups that you.

are accusing of domestic terrorism, but. you won't share it with Congress. And. I'd remind you that when the US. government designates an entity as a. foreign terrorist organization, it must. report that to Congress and to the. entity because. the government can make a mistake and. the entity has the opportunity to. contest it. So your position seems to be. that if you falsely designate an. American or an American organization as. a terrorist group, there's nothing they.

can do about it. I think we get it. You don't want to. answer the question. >> No, you don't get anything regarding. public safety. >> Thank you. >> Nothing. >> Thank you for the insult. It's clear you. didn't come to Congress prepared to. answer questions that the American. people have every right to have. answered. But if you were to prepared to. answer truthfully, here's what we expect. the facts to show. The administration is. keeping lists of Americans who the White. House says are engaged in domestic. terrorism. Those lists could include.

Americans who have not committed any. acts of terrorism but simply degree. disagree with this administration. People like Renee Good and Alex Prey. And your list may include clergy, elected officials, and members of um. indivisible groups across the country. And those lists likely don't include. Proud Boys or Oathkeepers who were. actually convicted. Americans have never. tolerated political demagogues who use. the government to punish people on an. enemy's list. It brought down McCarthy,

brought down Nixon. this administration as well. >> And you're right back. That's why we're. so glad they rescended the. [clears throat]. >> memorandum targeting parents. For. goodness sake, as the gentleman from. California just pointed out in his five. minutes, the gentleman from Kentucky is. recognized for. >> May I respond very briefly to her. statement. >> Well, I think we can do that probably on. uh one of our one of our members. >> Okay. Thank you. I don't want that to. get away. Thank you. >> Y Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Behind me, I.

have three documents from the DOJ. production that are emblematic of the. massive failure of the DOJ to comply. with the Epstein Files Transparency Act. To my right is an email that was sent by. the victim's lawyers to the DOJ. It was. a list of names not to redact or sorry, a list of names not to release. What did. the DOJ do with this email? They. released this email in the document. production. Literally the worst thing.

you could do to the survivors, you did. And they're getting phone calls. A lot. of these people didn't want to be known. And we know you touched the document. because you redacted one name and you. redacted the lawyer's name, but you left. the survivor's name there. The next. document I want to show you in that was. in the title, the victim's survivors. names. All right. The title of this one. is child sex trafficking. co-conspirators. fully redacted.

And by the way, I'm going to unredact. them here. Les Wexner is in this now. Your. assistant dep your deputy attorney. general said, "Oh, well, he appears. hundreds of times in the files, but he. doesn't appear in this file until I. forced you to release it, where he's. listed as a co-conspirator, not to tax evasion, but to child sex. trafficking, not to prostitution,

not to money, child sex trafficking. And then finally, what we have here is. the third exhibit that I have is. emblematic of the FD302 release. These. are the documents that we need that. you're holding on to and overredacting. because they have the names of the men. who are implicated. How do we know? Because the the survivors gave testimony. to the FBI and it's in there. And what.

happens when you go to the portal at the. DOJ to look at what's behind this. redaction? Another redaction. So, we. can't even see them. And then there's. some of these files you've pulled down. from the website that we will never see. because we can't search the redactions. So, I have several questions for you. Who's responsible? Are you able to track. who in your organization made this. massive failure and released the.

victim's names? Are you able to track. who it was that obscured Les Wexner's. name as a co-conspirator in an FBI. document? Do you have that kind of. accountability? >> I believe Wexner's name was listed more. than 4,000 times about I had. >> Yeah, I already told you that. This is. where he's listed as a. >> finish my answer. Come on, let me finish. my answer. We corrected that within 40.

minutes. He was already You're acting. like everybody's trying to cover up. Wexner's name. Reclaiming Reclaiming my. time. I'm gonna answer this question. Reclaiming my time. He was Mr. Chairman. This is how this works. >> Can I have my time? >> He was He was Mr. Chairman. >> The gentle lady can can give her answer. The time belongs to the gentleman from. >> All right. I'm reclaiming my time. >> Can I give my answer? >> I'm going to put the language of the. bill up on the screen. >> Chairman. on that. >> Here's a political joke and I need to. give my answer on that. Let we'll let. the we'll let the attorney general.

respond and then the gentleman can move. to his next question. It's my time. >> Within 40 minutes, you asked me a. question. Within 40 minutes, >> Wexner's name was added back. >> Within 40 minutes of me catching you. redhanded. >> Red hand. There was one redaction out. and we invited you in. We This guy has. Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to. get You're a failed politician. I want you to watch the video. Mr. Chairman, please restore his time and. remind the witness of the roles here.

>> There is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case. yesterday. >> that he traffked to other individuals. >> Is that your position as well? >> My position is any victim who comes. forward, of course, we would love to. hear from them. 1800 call FBI. Did you. ask Merritt Garland that the last four. years? Did you talk about Epstein? >> I am reclaiming my time. I'm glad you're.

asking about Mary Garland. >> This is bigger than Watergate when I. don't answer a question. >> This goes over four administrations. You. don't have to go back to Biden. Let's go. back to Obama. Let's go back to George. Bush. This cover up spans decades and. you are responsible for this portion of. it. And that's where the. >> I want to know at what point at what. point. >> did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex. Wesner was not a co-conspirator? Because. our Epstein Files Transparency Act.

requires you please put it back on the. screen. >> He's to release the internal decision. about whether to prosecute him or not. And it's not in the files and it's not. in the files for any of these other men. time of the gentleman has. >> May she answer. >> and he's a hypocrite because he voted. against the ban that we were talking. about on deep fake AI porn. Only two. people voted against it and you were one. of them, hypocrite. >> The uh the gentleman's time has expired.

>> She didn't answer the question. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Mr. Chairman, could she answer the. question? >> Chairman, I was wondering. >> the gentle lady's allowed the attorney. general is allowed to respond the way. she wants to respond to any member's. questions. Republican, Democrat. >> I have unanimous consent request. >> Gentleman's recognized for a UC. >> All right. This is an example. I'm I'm. submitting these 302 forms that are. entirely redacted even when you go to. look at them. >> Without objection. >> I'm submitting a a witness statement.

that implicates Les Wexner. >> Without objection. >> I'm submitting an article from the New. York Times. The DOJ released nude photos. and identifiable pictures of the. victims. I'm submitting a letter from AG Bondi to. Cash Patel. imploring him to quit keeping the files. when you found out that they were. keeping files from you. >> because they're still redacting files. that you. >> chairman. Are we going to recess for. votes?

>> Yes, we are. >> I'm submitting for unanimous consent a. document of 17 individuals who've. resigned because of the Epstein files. >> Without objection. Just want to check on what time what. time uh how much time we have left in. votes. But one thing I've learned here. of late that they'll wait on us. >> How much time do we have? >> Oh, they just called. Okay. Uh the the.

chair now recognizes the gentleman from. Maryland. >> And thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, I want. to start by saying I appreciate what you. said, Attorney General Bondi, and you. said it to me personally, uh, that you. take the personal security of every. member of Congress seriously and that. people can contact you about that. And. in these times, that's a very serious. matter. So, I thank you for that. Um, article 2, section 1, clause 7 of the. constitution is the domestic imalments. clause. And it says that the president. is limited to his salary in office and.

cannot receive any other money from the. federal government while he's in office. It cannot be inc increased by $1. This. president is the first president in US. history who has repeatedly sued the. federal government sued the federal. government for $230 million uh for the. judicial search warrant at Mara Lago. which was perfectly lawful and was never. struck down. But now he's suing the IRS. for10 billion dollar. He's suing the IRS.

for $10 billion, which I think is around. 80% of its annual budget. Um. [clears throat] because. his tax returns were leaked and they. were illegally leaked by a private. contractor who actually is in prison. now, Charles Little John. But he wants. $10 billion. Now, um, well, I I want to. I want to ask you the question of. whether you think it would violate the. domestic imalments clause for you to. settle that $10 billion case or any of. the other, uh, claims that the. president's made against the government.

He himself has remarked, uh, it's. interesting because I'm the one that. makes the deal, right? And he says, I. kind of have to work it out with myself. Do you think it would violate the. domestic emalance clause for the. president to work out a deal from people. who are his subordinates under his. unitary executive theory to get money in. one of these cases? >> I'm not going to discuss pending. litigation. >> Okay. So, theoretically, you're saying. uh because his uh privacy rights were.

violated uh in that tax case and they. were. I'm with the president on that. I. mean, his Mara Lago thing is ridiculous, but there's no doubt that his tax. returns, despite the fact that he. promised to release them, despite the. fact that every other president released. the tax returns, uh, he suffered. embarrassment when it showed that he. hadn't paid taxes for several years, and. he had a right for that not to happen. Now, I want to turn back to the Epstein. survivors because President Trump may. have been a little bit embarrassed by. the release of those uh, tax returns.

How much do you think the claims of. these survivors are worth? As um the. good congressman from Kentucky just. pointed out, there were lots of. survivors who had decided for reasons of. their own never to release their names. That determination was represented to. people in Congress and we built it into. our federal law that their names could. not be released. And yet you published. their names, their phone numbers, their.

addresses, personally identifying. information. If Donald Trump can get $10. billion theoretically from the. Department of Justice, how much should. these people get for a far worse. violation of their privacy rights and a. far greater danger established to them. in their lives? >> Do you even know who Chase Mulligan is? You're so obsessed with You don't do. you? I'm going to teach you the rules. again. You're the attorney general of. the United States. We have rules here.

obsessed with him. >> You're the attorney general of the. United States. >> I'm obsessed with Donald Trump. You have. Trump derangement syndrome. >> Mr. Chairman, I'd like my time restored. I'd like my time restored. >> In your district in your district and. you don't even know about it about. keeping children. predators belongs to the gentleman from. Maryland. Gentleman can proceed. >> Yeah. And I I just I want the whole. country to look at this because this is. the attorney general of the United. States whose job is law enforcement. We've never had a witness who has. misunderstood our rules and been unable.

to conform his or her conduct to our. rules before. We have only five minutes. and so we use our time to ask you. specific questions. >> How long are you? >> Excuse me. I I'm not yielding to you. right now. I'd like that second reward, too. So, Miss Bondi, the way it works is. we ask you a question and you answer it. And if you go off on a wild goose chase, another tangent, you start reading. statistics or you start talking about. stuff going on our district. And by the. way, I invite you to my district. Come.

to my district. But that's not what. we're here to do today. Okay? So, and. you do that, then we're allowed to say. we reclaim our time. At that point, you. have to be quiet. You have no choice. You have to be quiet. So, I hope you. understand the rule at this point. Now, here's what I want to ask you. your law enforcement. We've seen all. kinds of evidence of crimes and when we. go over to the Department of Justice for. the four computers for every member of. Congress, we see more evidence of. crimes. Will you create a joint task. force of [clears throat] the Department.

of Justice and governors and state. attorney generals and district attorneys. across the country to investigate the. crimes that have taken place against. these victims and more than a thousand. like them. The DOJ is not doing its job. Will you create a task force with state. and local law enforcement to make that. happen? >> Gentle lady can respond if she wants to. >> Thank you, chairman. He called Chase. Mulligan a wild goose chase and didn't.

even know who he was. He is a defendant. in your own district who prayed on. girls. >> Mr. Chairman, >> well, you know what? If he were part of. the FBI investigation, you wouldn't do. anything about online chat rooms and. committed sexion. Yet he didn't even know in your tiny. little district who he was. Mr. >> Chairman, she's embarrassing you. >> He's about to be. >> This is your committee and she is. embarrassing me. >> On you. >> The time of the gentleman has expired. I. would remind the committee that last. Congress, Secretary was here numerous.

times and he wouldn't answer our. questions even when we sent them to him. ahead of time in writing. So that's what. we've had to deal with. I think the. attorney general is doing just fine. We. have votes shortly. I will go to the. gentleman from Virginia and then we will. take a bro a break to head to the floor. >> I I thank the chairman, Attorney General. Bondi. Thank you for being here and I. wanted to thank you for your work at DOJ. in restoring the rule of law. uh. encouraging transparency surrounding. Jack Smith's partisan investigations.

into President Trump, declassifying. information about the Russia collusion. hoax, um cracking down on sanctuary. jurisdictions, and establishing the. National Fraud Enforcement Division. Let. me first go to uh securing the border. and immigration enforcement. Our new. governor has recently rescended 287G. cooperation between the state and ICE. Uh can you talk about have you evaluated. the public safety impact? How that would. affect u safety in Virginia to withdraw.

that support and what that would do uh. to activity criminal activity involving. illegal immigrants in Virginia? Yes, it would be detrimental. And and as. as you know, Congressman, we one of the. top members of MS13 in the entire. country. was living in Virginia. >> Yeah. >> In a suburb um among all of us, living. not even probably half an hour away from.

where we are now. and the cooperation. previously. um with the governor with the members um. the members of of the state of Virginia. helped catch him and take him off our. streets. an illegal MS-13, one of the. heads for the entire country was living. in Virginia and and it's a shame that. that's happening now. And and and thank. you for bringing it talking about it. because um we're going to keep America.

safe and and when people feel like they. can flee to these cities and states and. be safe, they can't because Donald Trump. is going to protect Americans. We're. going to protect the citizens there. whether or not the governors, the mayors. are going to do it or not, but President. Trump is. We're going to keep Americans. safe from violent gang members like he's. been doing this last year. >> We appreciate that. We appreciate your. your work to make that happen in. Virginia and keep Virginia safe. Uh I. want to move on to the fraud enforcement.

division that you've established. Uh my. understanding is that this initiative is. intended to centralize coordinate. enforcement of fraud laws related to. government programs. You've talked about. Minnesota, you've talked about. California. Would this affect Virginia. as well? Because we have fraud in. Virginia as well. >> Absolutely. And we um look forward to. working with you. >> Would this affect things like um. long-term care accountability, senior. living facilities engaged in Medicaid. fraud, including systemic overbilling. practices, and the misappropriation of. taxpayer funded benefits. >> That is exactly what it's set up to.

help. >> Okay. I know that uh whether it was. related to fraud specifically or another. subject that under the Biden. administration there was um a sitting. member of the Virginia General Assembly. under investigation. Is that. investigation still ongoing? >> Can you speak to that? >> I can't discuss that. >> Okay. I'm going to move on to. uh the Second Amendment rights of.

law-abiding Americans. Uh last year, President Trump signed the one big. beautiful bill into law which uh. included the Hearing Protection Act, part of it that was sponsored by myself. and and Congressman Clyde. Um it reduced. the National Firearms Tax, $200 tax on. suppressors and shortbarreled firearms. to zero. And while the tax has been. eliminated, uh the NFA's registration. and paperwork requirements remain in. effect. And uh your uh your DOJ has said.

that that would even though the tax was. reduced to zero um that the registration. requirement is still uh somehow. necessary even though with regard to um. Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act. when that mandate was uh when that tax. penalty was reduced to zero you decided. that the mandate was no longer. necessary. How are you how are you. justifying the existence of this. registry? >> Congressman, that's pending um. litigation right now.

>> It is. It is. And I would hope we would. reconsider you would reconsider that. >> I yield back. >> Gentlemen, yield. Gentlemen, >> I yield to the chairman. >> I think I think that uh. >> Attorney General Bondi, why did Jack. Smith have to pay some secret source. $20,000 of taxpayer money? Do you know. the answer to that? I can't discuss um anything on that. matter, but that's a good question. Chairman Jordan, it's a good well said. it's a good question because he. subpoenaed just about every Republican. in this town. Got half the Congress's.

phone numbers if you were a Republican, >> but he has to pay some secret source a. bunch of taxpayer money. We'd like to. know the committee like to know how many. other sources he paid. Was it more than. $20,000? Why he had to do those? We'd. like to know when you can if you could. get that information to the committee. I. think when you think about the guy who. was trying to put the president of the. United States in prison, ridiculous as that whole thing was, we'd. kind of like to know the answer to that. if you could. And with that, we're going. to stand in recess. We will go as. quickly as we can and vote. We have two.

quick votes on the floor and we will be. back. There is actually some lunch if. you all need it. We have for our. members. And since you're back here, you. can have some. We we normally have. plenty. Mr. Chairman, we'll take a. recess. Before we before you gave out, can I ask for unanimous consent to enter. to a record the article entitled uh. inside Trump's DOJ dated October 16th, 2020? >> Without objection, we stand in recess.

We're live on Capitol Hill where. Attorney General Pam Bondi is testifying. on the priorities of the Justice. Department, notably the Epstein. investigation. This House Judiciary. Committee hearing is currently in a. break. When it resumes, we'll have live. coverage here on C-SPAN 2. Right now,

While this Judiciary Committee hearing. is in a break, we're going to have live. coverage here on C-SPAN 2 when they come.

back. But right now, here's an earlier. portion of the hearing. And the gentleman from uh Colorado is. recognized for five minutes. [clears throat]. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. here. Uh, Attorney General Bondi, six days ago, you posted online, quote, "If you come. for law enforcement, the Trump. administration will come for you." End.

quote. I want to show you just a brief. video. It's about 30 seconds, and I'll. ask you a couple questions about it. >> You guys are disgusting, man. You guys. are disgusting. A former a former law. enforcement. You're disgusting. You are. the Nazi. You are the gesturer. You. can't see it cuz you're chasing your. pinching, right? pension, your. retirement, right? That's what runs your. life, your retirement. >> The sad thing is they're not even going. to get their pension because it's going. to be your. >> shame on you. Shame on them.

Attorney General Bondi, that man works for you now, right? >> Who was that Congressman? >> The man in that video. >> The one who was in the police warn body. cam footage, the one allegedly yelling. kill him at police officers on January.

6th. >> His name is Jared Weise. >> He does work for us. He works for you at. the Department of Justice. >> He does. >> This is an individual whom a federal. grand jury indicted for two felonies and. four misdemeanors related to his. participation. in the attack on January 6th. One of. those charges was forcibly assaulting, resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, and interfering with. police with the intent to commit another. felony. This is who you choose.

as the chief law enforcement officer of. the United States of America to hire at. the Department of Justice. Someone on. video. yelling kill him at police officers. Right. >> I believe he was pardoned by President. Trump. >> Oh, he was pardoned. You're right. You're right. Pardoned by President. Trump for his offense. Pardoned for. yelling kill him at police officers. And. yet you expect hardworking police. officers across the country to believe.

that you take law enforcement seriously. You could imagine the reaction of so. many folks across the country hearing. the chief law enforcement officer of the. United States refuse. to even condemn what that individual. whom you've now hired. did. But in any event, let's talk a. little bit about some of the other. divisions within the Department of. Justice and what's happened over the. last year. You're familiar with the.

public integrity section of the DOJ's. criminal division. I think it's referred. to as PIN. Is that right? >> Yes. >> Okay. Do you know which presidential. administration. under which the PIN was first created? >> I can tell you what administration that. the weaponization was ended under. >> I'll reclaim my time. This wasn't a. trick question. >> You don't get to reclaim your time. Madam Attorney General, >> because I don't like him, >> Mr. Chairman, explain to the witness. that that he does reclaim his time. >> Because I don't answer a question to. your satisfaction, >> Mr. Chairman. Madam Attorney General, the time belongs to the gentleman from.

Colorado. >> The president under which PIN was. created was Gerald Ford. It was created. after Water. I'm not asking a question. Madam Attorney General, the. administration under which it was. created was Gerald Ford. When you first. started as the attorney general of the. United States, there were 35 people. working in that office. There are now. two people working in that office. because you have gutted it. How many. people work for the National. Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team in the. criminal division today? >> Can I answer the question about PEN? >> I've asked you a question. How many.

people? >> You asked me a question, but you don't. >> How many people work for the National. Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team? >> You won't answer. How many? >> I'll answer Pen. >> You [laughter]. pin will not be actually You know what? What's funny about this? I'll say to the. chairman, >> what's funny about this chairman? You. know what the answer is? And I think the. I understand why does not want to answer. the question because you eliminated the. national cryptocurrency enforcement team. last year. So I understand why you don't. want to tell the American people who. works there. I understand why you don't. want to talk about Solomon in your.

district. >> In any event, Mr. Chairman, will you. stop the clock so his time is not wasted. by the witness? >> Very generous with allowing extra time. when we have these little disputes. >> I understand you got the time. I might. as well ask the chairman these questions. because what is your question? What's. profound? >> The questions I've asked. >> the crime in your asked, Mr. Chairman, >> are not trick questions. They're not. gotcha questions. They're actually basic. questions about how the Department of. Justice functions and the unwillingness.

of this attorney general to answer them. in good faith. When a member of Congress. asks how many people work at the. National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team. and the attorney general refuses to. answer it, it is not a coincidence. It's because she eliminated the team. Why? Because her boss, the president of. the United States, is making money hand. over fist, $1.4 billion dollars over the. course of the last year through. cryptocurrency holdings. I think what is.

happening at the Department of Justice. is a disgrace. Mr. chairman and I would. urge you to gain control of this. hearing. With that, I yield back the balance of. my time. >> Yeah. I I I would ask the gentleman, does he agree with the standing up of. the deputy attorney general for dealing. with fraud? That's something that's. happened in this administration. First. time you talked about pin uh that. happened with this justice department. >> We're talking about this committ. >> Mr. Chairman, had you answered the. question in had the attorney general.

answered the question in that way? Perhaps this hearing would have some. modicum of resembling something that has. typically been fairly conventional, an. oversight hearing of the Department of. Justice. >> Gentleman's time is expired. The the the. gentle lady from Wyoming uh is. recognized for 5 minutes. >> Attorney General Bondi, I want to. express my gratitude to the president, you and your team for your continued. efforts against extreme anti-energy. policies taken by states and cities that.

serve only to increase costs on the. American people. This is an issue of. great concern for Congress as well as. the consumers. At the behest of networks. of non-governmental organizations and. anti-growth activists, Democratic. controlled states and cities are. enacting laws and pursuing coordinated. lawsuits that would impose retroactive. liability on energy producers for past. global emissions based on speculative. future climate change harms. The. proponents of these plans call them. climate super fund laws, but in reality.

that is simply window dressing for taxes. and fees imposed on consumers and. businesses that don't even have a a. presence in these states or communities. But if you look at the billions of. dollars they hope to gain from these. efforts, the real goal here is to. increase their already mismanaged state. budgets by imposing fees on consumers. and businesses in energy producing. states such as the state of Wyoming. I. would describe this as the tobacco. litigation on steroids. Vermont has. enacted such a law and another has.

recently gone into effect in New York. Similar laws are under consideration in. a number of other states. Clearly, this. problem is spreading. [clears throat]. Would you agree that Congress has not. authorized states to impose retroactive. liability against energy producers and. lawful carbon emissions? >> Yes. And would you also agree that. protecting consumers is a core part of. the DOJ's mission? >> Absolutely. >> Would you further agree that combating. state policies that seek to hide and.

shift the true cost of programs like. these uh uh onto consumers fits within. your mission? Yes. So, Attorney General. Bondi, fossil fuels are the foundation. of the US economy, and the recent winter. storms underscored that gas, coal, and. oil remain essential to grid reliability. and heating our homes. Can you confirm. that the DOJ is fully committed to using. all available legal tools to stop these. state and local level attacks on. domestic energy production?

>> Congresswoman, we are committed to that. and so is the entire administration. We. talk about that a lot. >> Thank you. Thank you. The president's. April 2025 executive order directed the. DOJ to identify and act against state. laws that burden the burden US energy. production. What concrete actions has. the DOJ and the administration more. broadly taken to carry out this. directive? >> Well, we filed four lawsuits. We we are. filing multiple lawsuits. Many things. are pending within this office to carry. that out. >> Okay. States continue to invent new.

causes of action to pursue state climate. lawfare as is evidenced by Michigan's. recent novel claim related to antitrust. violations. The city of Boulder, Colorado has also filed such a lawsuit. despite refusing my challenge that they. actually forego the use of fossil fuels. if they I disagree with them so much. Does the Department of Justice agree. that these novel approaches require a. federal response and will the department. pursue such an approach? Yes,

Congresswoman, and we'd be happy to talk. to you more about that. >> Wonderful. Thank you. Multiple climate. lawsuits, multiple climate lawsuits are now. advancing toward trial trial, even in. states that rely on those energy forms. to provide heat and electricity for. their citizens. In fact, in any. community that they all rely upon fossil. fuels in some fashion, is the department. actively considering intervention to. protect federal supremacy over. interstate emissions and energy policy?

>> Yes, we'd be happy to discuss that with. you. >> Thank you. And clearly, this is an area. in which Congress has a role to play. To. that end, I'm working with my colleagues. in both the House and Senate to craft. legislation tackling both these state. laws and the lawsuits that could destroy. energy affordability for consumers. To. that end, are there any authorities or. tools that DOJ and the administration. don't currently have at their disposal. that would be helpful in that e effort. that Congress could adopt? >> Well, we work with multiple agencies.

throughout the administration, but I'd. be happy to talk to you about that more. >> Wonderful. Thank you. I appreciate your. effort in this regard. >> And may I have 20 seconds of your time. before to address something? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Your colleague um Senator Nagus Nagus um. didn't want to talk about crypto because. he said I was a disgrace talking about. crypto because he didn't want to talk. about the tremendous crime in his.

jurisdiction. He voted no on preventing. violence against women by illegal. aliens. Yet on June 1st, 2025, Muhammad. Solomon attacked members of the group. run for their lives in Boulder, Colorado, where an 82year-old woman. sustained burns on over half of her body. and eventually died from her injuries. >> I believe that she was a Holocaust. survivor. She was.

>> the time the time the gentle lady has. expired the uh gentle lady yields back. and the gentle lady from uh Georgia is. recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Miss Bondi, as the. Florida Attorney General, attorneys from. your office handled the appeal of my son. Jordan Davis's murder, which was denied. As a result of the efforts of those. attorneys under your watch, the court. actually upheld the life sentence for a. man who used prejudice as his defense. for murdering my son and scarring his.

friends for life. >> Attorneys from your office under your. management worked hard to remove a. dangerous man from the community who. terrorized innocent people like my son. and his friends. The compassion and respect that my. family received throughout that ordeal. were critical in helping us keep faith. in the rule of law and justice. Based on my experiences, I have seen how strong victim services,

sustained investigations, and. wellsupported prosecutors can make a. meaningful difference in the lives of. families who are grieving and suffering. Miss Bondi, just yes or no. Would you. agree that government officials should. be respectful and supportive of victims. families as they mourn? >> First, Congresswoman, thank you for for. talking about that and I'm so very sorry.

for what happened to your family. >> Thank you. >> And and yes, I agree with that with all. victims, including the ones sitting. behind us today. I absolutely do. And. also, thank you for voting yes on the. Lake and Riley Act. >> Thank you for that. >> Thank you. Okay. So, your answer is why. the recent treatment of families in. Minnesota raises really serious concerns. for me. Because shortly after Mr. Alex. Prey was murdered, administration. officials referred to him as an assassin. and called Mr. Prey the definition of.

domestic terrorism. They [snorts] also. lied about Mr. Prey holding a gun and. threatening officers. After Ms. Renee. Good was murdered by ICE officials in. Minneapolis. Administration officials. also accused her of being a domestic. terrorist and investigated her wife in a. clear act of retaliation. The statement. Mr. Petty's mother made after the murder. resonated with me more than you'll ever. imagine. She said that, and I'm quoting, "The sickening lies told about our son.

by the administration are reprehensible. and disgusting." End quote. And I assure. you, I know how it feels to hear lies. that are told to justify the taking of. someone's son. They were used by my. son's murderer as a defense. And those. lies still affect me today. He was. called a thug and he was called a gang. banger. And the attorneys from your. office actually defended my son's name,

his memory, and defended his honor. I'm. certain that Mr. Py's mother watched. videos of her son, Alex, an ICU nurse at. the VA hospital, using his phone to. record federal agents. She also watched. him getting pepper sprayed, kicked, hit. in the head, and surrounded by at least. seven agents before having his gun. removed from his waistband, which he. legally carried. And she watched second lers seconds. later as two of those agents shot her.

son, Alex, at least 10 times. The. administration was quick to spew an. incorrect narrative and call him so many. things that they wanted us to ignore the. truth that we actually saw with our own. eyes. Miss Bondi, will you denounce the. statements that were made to tarnish the. names of Alex Prey and Renee Good? And. will you protect their names like those. attorneys back in Florida under your. watch protected my son's name?

What I will say is we are looking at. everything to shed light on what. happened that day and it is an ongoing. and active investigation. Both of those. cases and I assure you they will be. investigated. investigating. We understand that. But. will you do everything in your power as. you have done for my case as you are. asked to do as you've sworn an oath to. do. It is your responsibility to make. sure that you are following the rule of.

law. Those families in Minnesota, they. deserve the same respect. They deserve a. full investigation, which you have not. even begin to do yet. So, what are you. saying is that they don't deserve any. respect for a full investigation into. their murders. >> Well, that is incompetence on your. behalf. The American people do deserve. better. non-commmitment to defending the. rule of law is what we see from you. >> I will always stand up for survivors and. I heard you say earlier when you told us.

that you will fight for them as well. And based on the information before us, these families have not received the. same commitment to investigate what. happened to their loved ones. Nor have. they received the respect that I I would. expect from the nation's top law. enforcement officer. Investigations have. been slowwalked. They've been cancelled. and the special agent assigned to Renee. Good's investigation resigned. >> following [snorts] pressure from your. officials to reclassify Miss Good's case. of the gentle. >> family seeking answers and.

accountability. The withdrawal of. investigative resources simply. unacceptable. >> expired. The gentle lady yields back. The gentleman from California is. recognized. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh Madam. Attorney General, U. I I get the sense. that we've lost a little perspective. here. uh the most fundamental. responsibility of government is to. protect the lives and property of its. citizens. Now, you cited some crime. figures in your opening statement and I. wonder if you could repeat them because. I think it's one of the most. extraordinary achievements of the.

Department of Justice in our history and. I don't think some of my colleagues. heard you clearly. >> Thank you, Congressman. And would you. mind if I address something that that. >> Congresswoman McBth wouldn't let me. address first? >> Go right ahead. Uh the the reason that. that she wants to continue to talk about. Minnesota, which we will all day long, is she doesn't want to talk about her. own jurisdiction in Atlanta, because she. doesn't want to talk about Christopher. Welchure who traveled across state lines. to try to meet him. And nothing's funny.

about this to meet and molest a. 14-year-old girl in Georgia. That's why. they're watching the clock. The American. people should know for the second it. runs out because they don't want to. address anything in their jurisdiction. They're elected to represent people in. their jurisdiction. We prosecuted. illegal aliens who ran a largecale meth. operation in the Atlanta metro. >> You understand we don't prosecute, right, Miss Bundy? >> Madam Attorney General, um I'm sorry,

Mr. >> Mcccleintoch. So, yes, the statistics I. spoke of earlier, Congressman, um under. the leadership of the FB of the FBI, historic work has been done. um a drop. 20% in the na nationwide murder rate in. 2025. Least murders in our country since 1900. And that is to the work because of the. credit. >> It's not just homicides, is it? It's. also other violent crimes, robbery. Could you go through that list real. quick?

>> Yes, Congressman. 100%. increase in violent crime arrest in 2025. compared to 2024. What's that done to. the violent crime rate in the country? >> It's plummeting. 1,800. >> Wait a minute. Wait a second. Do you. mean to honestly tell us and you're. under oath that if we take violent. criminals off the streets, we end up. with less crime? [laughter]. >> I certainly hope so, Congressman. And. that's our goal. And that's. >> that's an extraordinary concept. And I'm. afraid it may be lost on some of our.

Democratic colleagues of of I I I look. at these numbers and they're absolutely. staggering. It didn't happen by. accident. It happened because of. specific policies that you've. implemented this year. Would you? And. you mentioned a few of them. Would you. continue? >> Over 6,000. child victims located, 22% increase. Over 1,700 child predators arrested, 10%. increased. Over 300 human traffickers. arrested. Let me jump down to DEA right.

now. That was just FBI under Terry. Cole's leadership. And I I I talk to. these people almost daily, our. directors, and the amazing work that. they're doing in all of your. jurisdictions on the left and the right, working together to take drugs off our. streets. >> Right. And and I assume that our. Democratic colleagues, some of whom. represent some of our most crime plagued. cities and communities, have thanked you. for this extraordinary accomplishment. >> Thank you, Congressman. We've seized.

more than 9800 kilos of fentanyl and 47. million fentanyl pills. That affects. every single person in this room. Doesn't matter what political party you. are. People, everyone in this room knows. someone who's died from fentanyl. A. parent, a child, a sister, a brother, a. friend, a neighbor, a relative. Everyone. here knows someone who has been impacted. by that. That is the common ground that.

I wish we could find to work together in. this country to take these drugs off the. streets. And someone nodded with vapes. >> Well, in your opening statement, you. said this historic success in protecting. the lives and poverty of Americans has. occurred when when local governments. have cooperated with you. >> Let me ask you, what are the greatest. impediments you're facing in bringing. down crime across the country? Well, when local governments of course do not. cooperate with us. Um, and that's where. criminals flee in jurisdictions.

[clears throat]. where they know they will be protected. by local governments. And this is all. about working together. And we have. shown that in what we did in DC, what. we're doing in Memphis, working together. with Democrat mayors in these cities. right here in DC. And very quickly if. you could tell us about the safe cities. program and give us your read on what. what cities that avail themselves of. this program can expect. >> Yes. So so far of course we've been. working in Washington DC right here to.

do everything we can working hand inand. with the mayor with Metro PD to keep. everyone safe in DC. And it's worked. It's been a tremendous effort. And now. we're in Memphis working with the mayor. in Memphis as we talked about earlier. doing everything we can. And these are. iconic cities in our country and we want. to help every city in this country who. wants and asks for President Trump's. help to make America safe again. >> Gentlemen,

>> Mr. Chair, I have you se. >> Let the record show that Democrat was. applauding the attorney general's answer. there. Uh. the unanimous consent. >> Yes, please. >> All right. The gentle is recognized. >> Mr. I have a few unanimous unanimous. consent requests. I would like to submit. into the record this New York Times. article titled Alex Freddy's Prey's. friends and family denounce sickening. lies about his life. [clears throat] I. also would like to submit this Daily. Mail exclusive interview with uh Vice. President JD Vance titled JD Vance. refuses to apologize to Alex Py's family.

after spreading ICE assassin claim. One. more. My last submission request is a. New York Times article titled FBI agent. who tried to investigate ICE officer in. shooting resigns. >> Without objection. >> Thank you. >> Uh the chair now recognizes the gentle. lady from North Carolina. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman. >> Attorney General Bondi, I think you and. pretty much everybody else here and. throughout the country believes that. convicted sex offenders don't deserve. special treatment or privileges in.

prison. And yet, Galileain Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator, received perk after perk in prison. In. July, she had a two-day interview with. your deputy and President Trump's former. defense attorney, Todd Blanch. Just days. after that, Maxwell was transferred from. a federal correctional institution in. Florida to a minimum security camp in. Texas, which she as a sex offender would.

normally be ineligible for. At this new. facility, as the ranking member talked. about, um, and by the way, it's. nicknamed clubfed. We've heard reports that she's been. afforded special privileges, puppy time, private workouts, personal mail, secretarial services. Um, Attorney. General Bondi, does a convicted sex. offender like Elaine Maxwell deserve. special treatment and prison in and. privileges in prison? Yes or no?

>> Let me be crystal clear on this. No. And. let me tell let me let me keep going. No, let me keep going. >> Perfect. Well, I. >> I did not know she was transferred. I. asked you yes or no. was not transferred. to a lower. >> Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock and. remind the witness of the rules. One. rule she needs to understand. >> I'm glad that we're agreeing. So, when. we're agreeing, we can move on to some. other things. But I want you to know. that every time she does get these perks. and it's been publicly reported that her. the folks she's abused, the survivors.

who are sitting here, they see. themselves as being denied justice. They. feel retraumatized. And I'm glad that we. agree on that, but she should not be in. that prison. >> and she needs to be moved back to a. maximum security prison as as soon as. possible. But what she has told another. committee here is that she won't. cooperate with them unless she gets. clemency from Donald Trump. It's just.

crazy to consider that she can be. wielding this kind of influence within. the administration. But that begs the question, who ordered. her to be transferred to the minimum. security prison that she was ineligible. for? Who signed off on the special. privileges? Was it Mr. Blanch? Was it one of your. other subordinates? So, please can you. tell us who sent her there since you.

don't agree she should be there? I said I do not agree she should receive. special treatment. She was transferred I learned after the. fact to the same level facility and that. is a question for the Bureau of Prisons. I was not involved in that at all. The. same level facility. I don't know why, but you know, instead of talking about. Gerlain Maxwell, who hopefully will die. in prison, hopefully will die in prison, you should talking about Arena Zerutka.

>> I have a couple of. >> died on a subway, >> right? And I absolutely. >> You don't talk about that. >> I have been talking about it and. actually helping with these issues. But. we're going to move back to you. >> I bet we are. >> Yes, of course. Because you're here to. testify. That's what the whole point of. this endeavor is. So, of course, we're. moving back to you. It is all about you. So, as we've heard, she she took the. fifth in response to every single. question. in that committee hearing and her lawyer.

dangled the offer of clemency. Should Donald Trump pardon or commute. her sentence? Should she be released. from prison? Yes or no? You said you. hope she dies there, so I'm hoping the. answer is no. I already answered that. question. >> Good. I'm very glad. I really like this. bipartisan agreement about you. But you. don't want to talk about Ireina Zerutka. You don't want to talk about.

>> I talk about her murdered by a violent. crime. >> But I am not here to testify before. Congress. You are. That is your job. today. That's what you're getting with. attacking. Um, I want you to know that. your your your own um DOJ employee, he's. recently been demoted and had some other. problems, advises on pardons. Do you. think he will be advising Mr. Trump on. any kind of clemency or pardon for.

Golain Maxwell? I am not going to speculate. And you. couldn't even identify properly. That's. why you don't want to talk about Ireina. Zerutska. You couldn't properly identify. her relative. >> I absolutely embarrassing. >> have been and her family, by the way, appreciates all of the condolences, all. of the help, everything that our law. enforcement in North Carolina has been. doing to help her family. Her family.

feels well treated. Thank you. And I. yield back. >> Gentle lady yields back. Gentleman from. California is recognized. >> I'd ask unanimous consent to enter into. the record an article by former attorney. general William P. Bar entitled Why Pam. Bondi didn't publish all the Epstein. files in 30 days. The answer is simple. It was not possible from the Wall Street. Journal. >> Well said. Uh without objection, the. gentle lady from Florida is recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May Madam I'm. sorry. May May I respond 20 seconds to.

to something that Congresswoman Ross. said? >> Go right ahead. >> Thank you. She also opposed a sex. offender registry as head of North. Carolina ACLU. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Attorney General. And. I'd like to pick up where you left off a. moment ago because we convene here today. as a committee for the stated purpose of. conducting oversight of the Department. of Justice. And so it's critical for us. to focus first on the mission of the. department and assess your success in.

discharging it. So the mission of the. department is to enforce federal law, defend the rule of law, and protect the. American people from violent crime, terrorism, drug trafficking, fraud, and. exploitation to promote public safety. And what we have heard today. unequivocally is that President Trump's. Department of Justice, under your. leadership, Attorney General Bondi, is. doing exactly that. Just a moment ago, you shared with us some incredible.

statistics. That the United States under. your leadership has achieved the lowest. murder rate in. 125 years. That in the first year of. this administration, murder is down 21%. Robbery is down 23%, carjacking down. 43%, and gun assault down 22%. That is what public safety looks like. Under your leadership and that of. President Trump, you've located more.

than 6,000 child victims of trafficking. and exploitation, arrested, 1700 child. predators, and apprehended more than 300. human traffickers. Significant. increases. And those aren't just. statistics. Those are precious lives. that your department and the men and. women of federal law enforcement have. saved. Madam Attorney General, you've mentioned. a couple of specific criminal trends. during this hearing that I'd like to. discuss with you further because one of. our important roles in Congress is. making sure that our laws and our law.

enforcement stay ahead of predators as. technology evolves. I lead legislation. in the House along with bipartisan. co-sponsors on this committee to make s. sex extortion a clearly defined criminal. offense. We actually passed that out of. the House of Representatives. Uh we have. a bill to promote Operation Renewed Hope. to help rescue more child victims and. the Defiance Act to provide legal. recourse to victims of deep fake AI. intimate images. I would love to hear.

your perspective and what you are seeing. related to these technologybased. criminal trends, sexion and AI deep. fakes. What are you seeing at the. Department of Justice? And why do you. believe that efforts to combat these. types of crimes are important. sextor? And thank you for supporting. that, Congresswoman. I think that was a. bipartisan effort actually. I I think. many of you on both sides of the aisle.

supported that. Thank you for that. You. know, um as a career prosecutor, it's. horrible seeing that and seeing that. that young women and and often young. boys have been exploited with sextortion. and and I see thank you both sides of. the aisle nodding on that. It it's it's. it's horrific. The suicide rates go up. Um, and that's why we have to do. everything in our power to protect not. only young girls,

adult women, boys and men from. sextortion because it is happening and. we're doing everything in our power. thanks to your legislation, all of you, to stop that. I'd like to hear a little bit more about. some of the Department of Justice. programs uh like Project Safe Childhood. and the Internet Crimes Against Children. Task Forces, partnerships that bring. together federal, state, and local law. enforcement. Uh sometimes the work. between those those law enforcement. groups together uh really creates some.

incredibly powerful income outcomes and. some great success stories. I know you. as Florida's attorney general had a. tremendous amount of leadership in our. state trying to make sure we were taking. care of children. Uh also the elderly, protecting them from fraud, uh ending. drug trafficking. Tell us a little bit. about some of those departments within. DOJ. >> Yeah, when when you talked about um. Project Safe Neighborhoods, we we've. done a lot of that in Florida when I was. state AG and actually back when I was a. state prosecutor prior to being attorney.

general. Um, that is so important. I. feel like what we've been doing in DC. too with the take back DC and make DC. safe again is similar to that. Going. into the neighborhoods, working with the. community, seeing law enforcement. officers out there playing basketball. with kids who live in the neighborhood. It's pretty remarkable what we've seen. firsthand. Citizens in Memphis saying. that they appreciate they can walk. outdoors now and they feel safe. people.

coming up thanking law enforcement and. working hand inand with them. We will. continue um all of all of these programs. and and working jointly with both sides. of the aisle to to keep our families. safe. [snorts]. >> Thank you for that, Madam Attorney. General. Mr. Chairman, I yield back. >> Lady gentle lady yields back. Uh. gentleman from Tennessee is recognized. >> Thank you. I'd like to introduce for the. record uh a letter a letter to Director. Gabbard from uh Mr. Warner and uh.

and Mr. and a letter of response from. her to them about who invited her to. Atlanta and a copy of the search. warrant. >> Uh and I'd also like to just make clear. for the record the reason people in. Memphis weren't going out was because. the ice was on the was on the ground and. we were afraid we'd fall. But other than. that, we go out all the time. >> Uh gentlemen, uh without objection, there's miss consent. The gentle lady. from Vermont is recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Attorney General. Bondi, according to your department, a.

child is sexually abused in the United. States every nine minutes. And the vast. majority of survivors never get justice. And that's one of the reasons why I. think the Epstein case has resonated so. deeply with so many Americans. And the. other reason, I think, is because it has. revealed a two-tiered system of justice. And the powerful are protected and the. survivors rarely get any accountability. And the Epstein files contain evidence. of a multi-deade international criminal.

conspiracy involving some of the. wealthiest and the most powerful people. in the world. There's evidence of. financial crimes, political corruption, sex trafficking, and of course, horrible. sexual abuse. And I want to remind. everybody, this isn't a game. These are. real people. people who have suffered, who are sitting here with us today, and. they deserve answers, and they deserve. accountability, and I'm here to try to.

get some for them. Now, I've seen some. of the unredacted Epstein files, and. obviously, as you know, President. Trump's name is all over them, but so. are the names of other senior Trump. officials. Howard Lutnik, Secretary of. Commerce, John Failen, the Secretary of. the Navy, and Steven Fineberg, the. Deputy Secretary of Defense. These men. were appointed by President Trump to. senior positions in his administration. All of them have clear and confirmed. ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Attorney.

General Bondi, yes or no? Has the. Justice Department asked Secretary Letic. about his ties to Epstein? >> Excuse me. Secretary Lutnik um has. addressed those ties himself. I'm asking. you, has the Justice Department. specifically asked Secretary Lutnik. about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein? >> He has addressed those ties himself. >> Has the DOJ asked Secretary Failen about. his ties to Jeffrey Epstein?

>> I don't know whether he has addressed. those or not. >> Has the deputy um sec has deputy. secretary Fineberg talked to the. Department of Justice about his ties to. Jeffrey Epstein? Yes or no? Has the Department of Justice. talked to Secretary, Deputy Secretary. Fineberg about his ties to Jeffrey. Epstein, which are clearly spelled out. in the files. It's a very simple. question. It's not a trick question. I'm. just asking you. >> Yeah. I'm stunned that you want to.

continue talking about. >> Oh my gosh. Instead of my time, I'm. asking you not a trick question, a. simple question. >> Okay. So, what is clear is we have. evidence. >> Do you know who created is senior. We. have evidence that three senior. officials within the Trump. administration have ties to Jeffrey. Epstein. And what I ties mean. >> I can conclude from what you are saying. that you have not talked to them. >> What does ties mean? >> I think Americans would be shocked to.

learn. that you are not interested in talking. with these officials who have ties to. Jeffrey Epste. across the world prominent men who've. been exposed in the files have resigned. their jobs in disgrace and that's a good. first start and that same standard. >> not saying the word same standard should. apply here and Americans want. accountability. >> who is Chris M. >> was the president aware please stop.

talking it is not your time to ask. questions it is not your time I'm. reclaiming my time Mr. chair belongs. time belongs to the gentle lady from. Vermont. >> Was the president aware of Secretary. Lutnik's ties to Epstein when he chose. him to lead the Department of Commerce? >> Was he aware? >> Chris Men was a border patrol agent. >> Okay. So, I'm going to conclude that the. president in fact did know about his. ties because he was the next door. neighbor. >> Shame on you.

>> Oh, for goodness sakes. This is. pathetic. This is pathetic. Mr. Chair. will be in order. I am not asking trick. questions here. >> The American people have a right to know. the answers to this. These are senior. officials in the Trump administration. This is not a game. Secretary, >> I'm attorney general. >> My apologies. I couldn't tell. By 2008, we knew that Epstein was a. convicted sexual abuser. And we now know.

that Lutnik went to Epstein's Island in. 2012. How was that not a dealbreaker for. the president? And why aren't you asking. questions. of the commerce secretary about what he. saw when he was at the island, which he. lied about not ever going to? Why are. you not asking these questions? And I. see that my time is almost expired. So I. will say this, do the right thing, Attorney General. Meet with the. survivors. They have been asking for a.

year. Meet with the survivors. Do the. right thing. I yield back. >> Gentle lady yields back. The gentleman. from South Carolina is recognized for. five minutes. >> May I have 20 seconds of his time? >> That'd be up to the gentleman. But. >> uh absolutely, Madam Chair. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um I I was curious. if you congresswoman um asked Bill. Clinton that. Um didn't hear didn't see. one tweet, not one. I didn't see one. tweet when Joe Biden was in office about. Bill Clinton. Um, didn't ask Merrick.

Garland anything about Epstein, not once. when he was. >> And also, I want the record to reflect. that, you know, with this anti-Semitic. culture right now, she voted against a. resolution condemning. I just want to be clear. >> Do you want to go there, Attorney. General? Or do you want to go there? Are. you serious talking about anti-semitism. to a woman WHO LOST HER GRANDFATHER IN. THE HOLOCAUST? >> My time. I really.

>> The committee will be in order. >> Talk to Jared Wise about anti-semitism. >> The ranking member. >> knows that. >> I'm going to Can I get like 30 seconds. back? You know, >> balance took the whole committee knows. I've been very making sure everyone gets. their five minutes in the. >> general. I'm going to talk about. sanctuary cities for a second, >> which uh limit the federal government's. ability to enforce immigration law. Uh. they're kind of a new thing that. Democrat jurisdictions are doing. Uh. they're in violation of federal law. During President Trump's first term, he.

rightly targeted sanctuary jurisdictions. to try to force them to cooperate with. federal immigration law. federal. immigration law, mind you, that was. voted on in 1996, most recently in a. bipartisan Congress signed by a Democrat. president, but they are in violation of that law. These states and jurisdictions uh feel. entitled to certain grants. Of course, y'all are combating that. Um, do. sanctuary policies limit the federal. government's ability to accurately.

estimate how many criminal legals are in. the country? >> Yes. >> Thank you. This means that the number of. legals could be higher, probably higher. Uh, does this hurt the federal. government's ability to carry out. immigration laws designed by Congress? >> Yes. Congressman, >> uh, in your opinion, do you believe that. the Biden Harris administration and. Democrat pro-sanctuary policies make our. community safer? And uh, for the. American taxpayer, do they make do.

sanctuary policies make our communities. safer? >> No. Congressman, >> uh, I want to do a brief, uh, video to. highlight. sanctuary cities.

So, what's strange to me, if you look at. this board behind me, in New York, uh. there are 7,000 criminal legal aliens. since January 20th of last year, uh that. have been released into the public. because New York is not honoring. detainers requested by ICE. Uh. California similarly, has released 4,500. criminal legal aliens. Uh there are. 33,000 under detainer in California. alone. And of the of the people.

released, I just think I think it's. remarkable that those released in New. York, 29 homicides, 200 assaults, almost. 200 burglaries. These are people that. are released into our community by these. states that refuse to cooperate. Last August, Michael Jordan Castellano. uh Fonka, a criminal illegal alien with. ties to trend trend shot two people in. front of five children in the sanctuary. state of Colorado. DHS lodged a detainer.

on him. He's awaiting trial, but the. question is whether Colorado sanctuary. policies will prevent him from being. removed from the country. Yes or no? Do. you think that sanctuary jurisdictions, if they cooperated with ICE, those. illegals in custody could be transferred. to ICE properly instead of being held in. taxpayer funded jails and then released. into our community? >> Yes, Congressman, >> wouldn't it be more efficient and safer. then if Democrats simply cooperated with. the federal government? These sanctuary.

jurisdictions cooperated with the. federal government and honored ICE. detainers. And why? Why do you think? Of. course, because so many criminals are. running to sanctuary jurisdictions. Many. of your colleagues across the aisle who. we've seen speaking today about Epstein. don't want to talk about the illegal. criminals in their own jurisdiction for. that reason. And yes, we need to do. everything we can to work together to. make America safer. And they're not. doing that. >> This is not a partisan issue. People.

want to feel safe in their communities. Nobody wants a criminal legal alien. released into the street. I think that. the thing that maybe the American people. don't quite understand is that when you. do not honor a detainer, as we've seen, an illegal is released into the public. and now it's up to ICE to maybe. apprehend them. >> rather than behind the courtroom passing. them off from one law enforcement to the. next. Is that true? >> Absolutely. What do you think the What. do you think? What What is the. Department of Justice doing right now to. combat sanctuary policies in our.

country? >> We're doing everything in our power. obviously to combat that. Donald Trump. is doing everything he can because we. are going to make America safe. We are. going to get illegal criminal aliens out. of this country. We're going to get the. gangs out, TDA, MS13, all of the gangs. in this country. We're going to get the. drug dealers out and the drugs. And. that's what we've been fighting to do. And I wish we could do it on a. bipartisan basis, but they just can't do. it. >> And the decrease in numbers speak for. themselves. Thank you for your work. >> Gentleman's time is we have some UC's if.

that's okay. >> That is okay. >> Okay, Mr. Con. >> Thank you. UC on the National Institute. of Justice's study on undocumented. immigrants having an offender rate lower. than US-born citizens. Like to enter. this in the record from 2024. >> Without objection. >> And I have several myself, Mr. Chairman. Um, The Guardian. Um, January 26, 2026. Why is Trump granting clemency to. convicted fraudsters? >> Objection. >> January 20, 2026. NBC. Trump's pardons. forgive financial crimes that came with.

hundreds of millions of dollars in. punishment. >> Objection. >> Uh, Washington Post, December 19, 2025. Trump's pardons wipe out payments to. defrauded victims. >> Without objection. >> And um, finally, May 30th, 2024, Trump. found guilty by Manhattan jury on 34. felony counts of fraud. Without. objection, gentleman from Illinois is. recognized. >> Thank you, uh, Chairman, Attorney. General Bondi. Glad you finally made it. here after hiding for four months from. this committee. I understand why you're. hiding from us. Chairman,

>> you're one of the worst attorney. generals in our history and an. instrument of Donald Trump's lawless. authoritarian agenda. And I'm glad the. American people are seeing who you are, how you act, and the lack of good. values. You weaponize the Department of. Justice to target immigrants, working. families, and anyone that Trump deems an. enemy of the state. All to protect real. powerful criminals. Including in your.

administration, my Democratic colleagues. have focused on your cover up of the. Epstein files and your passion for. protecting pedophiles and child. traffickers. That alone is grounds for. impeachment. But there's so much more to. your corrupt tenure as attorney general. You directed prosecutors to investigate. elected officials in welcoming. jurisdictions, and you got thrown out of. court when you sued Chicago, Cook. County, and Illinois. You directed. prosecutors to prioritize low-level.

immigration cases while gutting. enforcement against corporate criminals. and public corruption. You revived. draconian. 1998, which should be repealed to illegally. send people to a torture prison in El. Salvador. You fired over a 100. immigration judges, including the. assistant chief immigration judge in. Chicago without cause and installed.

unqualified military judges whom you. instructed to deny asylum in violation. of the law. You prosecute the. president's enemies like Jim Comey and. Tish James while giving impunity to. federal agents who are murdering and. brutalizing and terrorizing constituents. including in Chicagoland in my. neighborhood. I saw it last year. firsthand. You and Cash Patel covered up the murder. of Sylvio Viegas Gonzalez in my district.

by ICE agents. You tried to investigate. Renee Good instead of the ICE agent who. murdered her. And you tried to cover up. the murder of Alex Prey by CBP agents. You bring fake charges against. protesters like the Broadview 6 and. Marimar Martinez whom your. administration labeled a domestic. terrorist. This is the monastery teacher.

who lives in my district while. protecting thugs who terrorize us and. DHS authority. That's what you do. Protect and enable the criminals who are. plundering our society and destroying. what's left of democracy and the rule of. law. Epstein accompllices, mass DHS. thugs, corporate criminals, Tom Holman, Eric Adams, insurrectionists, the list. goes on. And you talk about fighting. crime, but you protect any criminal who.

helps you and Trump turn our country. into an authoritarian. gangster state. And after all this, nobody supports you. I'm talking about. I'm not talking about Democrats. I'm. talking about conservative judges who. are condemning the rampant lawlessness. at DOJ under your leadership. Your. prosecutors are qu quitting in droves. over being forced to prosecute low-level. immigration cases, including in.

Chicagoland. Your MAGA base despises you. because you're covering up the Epstein. file. How ironic. And even your own boss. has repeatedly complained to your staff. about you, calling you weak and. ineffective. Weak and ineffective. That's what Donald Trump thinks of you. already. You will not win. However, Chicago land rejects you. The American. people reject you. Our communities have.

demonstrated our strength and resilience. in the face of cruelty and cowardice. Democrats must impeach and remove. lawless officials like you and Christine. Gnome and impose accountability for. every criminal action. But you can spare. yourself more humiliation. resign now. and submit yourself to accountability by. the American people. Mr. Chairman, before I yield back, I ask unanimous. consent to submit for the record this.

Wall Street Journal article. dated January 12th, 2026 and titled. Trump has complained about Pam Bandi. repeatedly to AIDS. Thank you and I. yield back. >> Objection. Gentleman yields back. The. gentleman from Texas is recognized. >> I thank the chairman. >> May I have 20 seconds, please? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Let's hear the opposition research. >> Thank you. That's absolutely right that. they're not running for um he's not.

running for office again because well I. don't know why you're not running for. office again but after the filing. deadline. after the filing deadline you publicly. announced you would not run when your. chief of staff Patty Garcia announced. and took your seat. >> that's a state matter that isn't a. federal matter you should investigate. crimes belong you should investigate. violations from Texas. The time belongs. to the gentleman from Texas. >> And a little flexibility on the time. I.

appreciate the chairman. Um, Madame. Attorney General, am I correct that. under your leadership, the Department of. Justice has prosecuted cases of. non-citizen voting? So, it's false as. some of my Democratic colleagues have. claimed that it doesn't happen. >> Yes. >> I asked that today because we're voting. on the Save America Act today to enact. common sense policies to ensure only. American citizens vote in American. elections and and uh enact federal voter. ID laws. But it's true, for example, that in just this month, a federal grand. jury in New York indicted two men with. illegally voting in federal election and.

making false statements. Muhammad Mazaml. and Muhammad Shaquille were non-citizens. at the time they registered to vote. This happens. It happens regularly and. you're prosecuting those crimes. Correct. >> Yes. >> But does that prosecution of those. criminals overturn their previously cast. votes? >> That's all pending. >> But it does not overturn votes that. they've cast. Right. So passing the same. would help deal with that problem. >> Yes, congressman. >> Second question. As attorney general, you're in charge of the executive office. of immigration review. Correct. >> Yes, Congressman.

>> The Biden mayor orcus regime caused. immigration court case backlog to. explode. Correct? >> Explode. >> Does that sound about right that in. September of 2020, four months before. President Biden took office, there was a. backlog of 1.5 million cases, but by the. time President Biden left office, the. backlog reached nearly 4.2 million. cases? >> I It sounds about right, but I don't. have the exact numbers. Um, it would be. accurate to say that most individuals. who file for asylum have a meritless or. fraudulent claim. >> Most I don't have the numbers. >> Oh. So, does it sound correct that of.

the asylum cases adjudicated in FY 2023. under the Biden regime that only 14%. resulted in asylum grant and only 12% in. fiscal year 2024? Does that sound. correct? >> It sounds correct. I don't I'm sorry I. don't have the numbers. >> Could you get that information to us to. verify that? >> I get all that information to you. Um, under the Trump administration, immigration judges complete an average. of 65,000 cases per month, the highest. average completion rate in at least a. decade. Does that sound correct? >> That sounds correct. >> Miss Monti, how many new cases under. EOIR received in fiscal year 2025 have.

have you all had? And of those, what. percentage have been granted asylum? Do. you know? >> I can try to get you those numbers. I. thought I had those. >> That'd be great. Um because I'm my. question is whether President Trump's. decision to pause asylum in the wake of. the shooting of a National Guardsman by. an Afghani here in Washington DC in the. nation's capital helped to stop the. backlog in your office. Does that sound. correct? >> Yes, Congressman. >> My point being that the leadership of. this administration is ending the. backlog, reducing the backlog, making. sure that we don't have fraudulent. asylum claims clogging it, and keeping. Americans safe. Is that correct?

>> Yes, Congressman. So, a couple other. quick questions on another important. topic um that has been raised by both. colleagues on both sides of the aisle. with respect to the Epstein case. A few. questions. One, Jeffrey Epste was. charged in July 2019 for sex trafficking. under the Trump administration in his. first term. Is that correct? >> Yes, Congressman. >> And that Gelain Maxwell was charged in. 2020, also under the Trump. administration. Correct. >> Yes, Congressman. So, it is safe to say. that the the administration led on that. issue and that there was silence in the.

previous administration. Is that. correct? >> Yes, Congressman, almost complete. silence from everyone who's been trying. to still talk about Epstein. They didn't. say a word under the Biden. administration. Nothing. >> And I I want to make one other point and. then another question that is that is. important. I want to make one. observation that is that we've heard the. the information today which is troubling. that Jane doe's that victim's. information was made public and was. unredacted in the files that were. released on Friday. So my question is.

some of us had argued when we were. dealing with the discharge petition in. Congress that when Congress inserted. itself into the process that we needed. to be very careful to ensure that we. were protecting victims. So a question. that is both I just want to make that. clear that some of us were fighting for. that here and we didn't get a chance to. amend it or change it. So that was. concerning but a question a little more. pointed I have to say is why though were. the victim's names released that. shouldn't have been that there were. names in the files that these Jane Does.

that their names shouldn't have been. made public when there were some. accusers whose names were redacted. That's question one. And question two. was that Gelain Maxwell was put in jail. for trafficking minors. Rightly so, and. you properly said here at this table, you hope she dies in jail. Well, I want. to know, will anyone besides her or. Epstein, which I congratulate President. Trump's previous administration and this. Department of Justice for continuing all. of that, but that they were indicted, but will anyone else be indicted and.

prosecuted under this given the. information that's in front of us? So, two questions. >> Thank you for letting me answer that. they didn't want to hear my answer on. the other side. Um, yes, given the the. tight time frame of 30 days, I believe. we got everything released within a. little over 60 days. I'm talking as fast. as I can. My time is up. We did the best. we could immediately. If if everyone's. been coming to view the documents, if. someone's name should not have been. redacted, we're releasing it. If. someone's name was redacted, we said.

right away was not redacted and should. have been, meaning a victim. We went. back and redacted it. Um, we're doing. everything we can based on the t tight. time frame and over three million pages. that we released that Donald Trump. signed for pure transparency. Second, uh, what was your second. question. >> about whether an another individual will. be indicted? >> Absolutely. Thank you for asking that. And they they never wanted to hear the. answer to that. We have pending. investigations in our office.

time. The gentleman has expired. Unanimous consent request from the. gentle lady from Pennsylvania. >> Thank you. I have uh several UC's. receipts. >> Um the I'd like to have unanimous. consent to introduce the National. Security Presidential Memorandum 7 dated. September 25th, 25. >> Objection. >> The Bondi Department of Justice memo. dated uh December 4th, 2025. >> Objection. An article from Newsweek. entitled DOJ deletes study alleging rise.

in far-right terrorism dated September. 18th, 2025. >> Without objection. >> Uh notice article from October 3rd, 2025. Trump's directive on organized. political violence could lead to. increased surveillance of his critics. >> Without objection. >> Washington Post article September 25th, 2025. Trump targets domestic terrorist. terrorists but only mentions the radical. left. >> Without objection. Uh, Idaho Capitol. Sun, October 18th, 2025. Rest easy. Idahoans. The No King demonstrators are.

American patriots. >> Without objection. >> Uh, attacks on freedom of speech. What. nonprofits need to know, published by. the National Council of Nonprofits, the. largest network of nonprofits in. America. >> Without objection. >> The Freedom from Religious Foundation, warns that Bondi memo weaponizes federal. law enforcement against non-Christians. and dissenting viewpoints. >> Without objection. A Ken Clippersstein. blog from January 28th, 26. ISIS secret. watch lists of Americans. >> Without objection.

>> And an inter intercept article from. February 2nd, 26. Trump calls his. enemies terrorists. Does that mean he. can kill them? >> Without objection. Uh, the gentleman. from Florida is recognized. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, good. morning, Attorney General Bondi. >> Good afternoon. >> Oh, you're right. It's good afternoon. It's been a long day. Uh, I wrote this. this morning. U we've known each other a long time. Uh. and I'll always be appreciative for your. assistance when you were attorney. general in Florida after the shooting at. my high school at Marjorie Stoman.

Douglas uh in my hometown of Parkland. when we passed a bipartisan uh bill, the. Marjorie Stoman Douglas School Safety. Act, which was the largest policy. response to a school shooting uh in. American history. You your department. also prosecuted to the fullest extent of. the law constituent of mine and former. felon that had plans to kill me when he. was picked up by law enforcement after. he was target practicing in his backyard. with two rifles, a scope, a silencer, three 3,000 rounds of ammunition, an. anti-semitic manifesto. My name was the.

only name on their target list and my. kids found out about this from their. friends at school. So, thank you. >> [snorts]. >> However, the most transparent administration in. American history. Before Trump, we. didn't know the word transparency. Apparently, it's been 12 months since. you gave Republican influencers part one. of the Epstein files. You said the list. was on your desk. Then a memo came out. and said that there was no list. Phase. two of the binders never happened. The. president of United States says the. Epstein thing is a hoax. He blasts his. own base for wanting the release of the.

files. He blamed Barack Obama. Republicans voted against the release of. the files in the rules committee. Then. they refused to even return to the rules. committee until they could be protected. from future votes on the release. Speaker Johnson sends Congress home a. day early before break. They sent the. deputy attorney general to meet with. Maxwell. She says something favorable. about the president. Miraculously, she. gets transferred to a minimum security. facility. No one can explain why. Miraculously, the leaks to the Wall. Street Journal stop. We come back from.

break. We have the Massie discharge. petition. Republicans drop a rule, a. non-binding resolution trying to kill. the Massie discharge petition. The White. House says passing the Massie discharge. petition is a hostile act. Trying to. stop the necessary 218 signatures, according to Republican members that. signed it, the White House brought them. into the situation room. You know, the. place where the president goes for time. of war, promising things like. appropriations or maybe even to primary. them. People in the room say, "You were. there." It didn't work. We get the 218.

signatures. We eventually passed the. Massie petition. You guys didn't release. the files. You were forced by the by. Congress, every member of the House. except one and the entire Senate. The. reason the president signed it is. because it was a veto proof majority. We. can't agree on anything. And yet the. entire house but one member and the. whole Senate forced the administration. to release the files. Cash Patel under. oath said Sen to Senator Kennedy, "The. FBI is not in possession of any credible. evidence that Epstein traffked girls to.

anyone but himself." We know now that's. not true. According to documents, Epstein had a worldwide sex trafficking. ring. Girls from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Paris, modeling agencies sending. him girls. He even had a relationship. with a summer camp where he groomed. girls at a picnic table. Glain Maxwell. says 29 Epstein associates cut secret. DOJ deals. Turns out there is a list. Six names readily available if you. unredact them. Co-conspirators named but. we got them when you unredact them. Maxwell recently tells a house oversight.

committee that she wants clemency to re. release more names. Cash Patel under o. said Trump's name appears less than a. hundred times in the files. We now know. that's not true. Trump's name appears. more times in the Epstein files than. God's name appears in the book about. God. Okay, by the way, this is the Trump. Bible. Move over King James. Trump's. name also appears more times in the. Epstein file than Harry Potter's name. appears in the seven books about Harry. Potter. Lutnik says that in 2008 he went. to Epste's home, says he had a massage.

table in the living room. That Epstein. said he got one every day, that it was. the right type of massage. He and his. wife decide to leave and say they'll. never be in a room with him again. Howard then says, "I'm sure the Epstein. stuff is all on video. He was the. greatest black mailer of all time.". Well, how would Howard know that? But. now the files are public. And in 2012, we find out that he and his family are. on Epstein Island after after after. Epstein plead guilty to state charges. I'm from Florida. I take my family to. Disney World, not to Epstein Island.

There are documents in the files that. dispute the president's claim that he. kicked Epste out of his club. Allegedly, the president said Epstein that he asked. Epstein to leave. Supported. Now, that. that's disputed though by statements uh. from the manager of the club. Now, Madam. Attorney General, I have like 25 seconds. left. So, because I'm curious uh and I I. just I'd like to see you flip to the. Jared Moscowitz section of the binder. I'm interested to see what staff. provided on the on the oppo on me. And. because we're in the Olympics, I'm going.

to give it a grade. I just want to see. how how [laughter] how good it is. So, give me your best one. >> So, first of all, nothing is funny about. mocking the Bible and holding up a. Bible. That's what you did. You made a. joke and I find it. That's all I have to. say. >> I want it from the burnbook. I want it. from the burnbook. Which is the best. one? What you got? >> Has expired. The gentleman from. Wisconsin's recognition. >> Thank you. First of all, I'd like to. clear something up that was said earlier. and is frequently said and is manifestly.

not true. Uh and that is the supposed. small number of crimes committed by. immigrants or illegal immigrants in the. country. um that has been um based on a. poorly done study by the Kato Institute. and I believe the Kato Institute itself. has even updated that study. The the. reason um that we know that study is not. true is that those statistics are not. out there. For whatever reason, when.

somebody is arrested, even for very. serious crimes, we do not have on the. paperwork whether that person is a legal. or illegal immigrant. Okay? If I go to. one of my local sheriffs in Wisconsin. and ask them how many illegal immigrants. in your jail, they will say, "I have no. idea. We don't keep track of that." When. I tour the federal prison rights out. outside of my district that I ask them. in this federal prison, how many of your.

inmates are illegal aliens, they will. tell me, "We have no idea. We don't keep. track of that." So, whenever you hear a. Democrat or anybody or a pundit uh say. that, "Oh, there's so few illegals. committing crimes," it is based on. nothing because those [clears throat]. statistics are not available anywhere. What I would offer in the next round of. appropriation bills, if one of my. Democrat colleagues wants to help me. out, perhaps in appropriations, we can.

get funds to add to all the paperwork uh. whenever anybody is convicted of crime. as to whether or not they are citizen or. non-citizen and then we will have the. statistics. But otherwise, whenever you. hear somebody say on MSNBC or wherever, "Oh, so few crimes are committed by. illegal immigrants," they don't know. what they're talking about because. nobody has those numbers. Okay, there's. the first thing. Now, the next thing I.

want to point out, um, we have had what I think is an. unprecedented, um, situation in Minnesota in which they are. not assisting ICE in dealing with uh, crimes that are going on up there. In. other words, ICE is left to its own. devices. When I talk to my local. sheriffs, they tell me that whenever a. federal agency is engaged in work in.

Wisconsin, they always make themselves. available in case that federal agency. needs assistance. This could be something like D like ICE. under uh DEI uh DI. It could be D uh. drug enforcement. It could be ATF. It. could be FBI. It could be Secret. Service. It could be the US Marshal. Nobody that I have been able to find, any sheriff in the state of Wisconsin,

is aware of any circumstances in which. they did not make themselves available. to federal law enforcement either if. they need somebody extra to do. surveillance, to just park a a marked. car outside the area, to assist in uh. apprehension of a criminal if they need. a distance uh assistance with an. additional SWAT team. uh if they need to. transport somebody, local law. enforcement is always there. Now, you.

are not in charge of ICE, but you're in. charge of several other agencies. Have. you ever heard of anything like what's. going on in Minnesota where the uh the. governor or the local mayor refuses to. give assistance to federal law. enforcement? I have in Portland and some other cities. um where where they weren't cooperating. But as I said, I spent about four day I. did spend four days in um in Minnesota. and I believe many of the local law.

enforcement wish they could work with us. to make their city safe. >> Okay. Now, uh we'll we'll switch to. something else. And first of all, I'd. like to thank you for doing this today. You're obviously very bright, obviously. very confident, and something I love. you you you uh you tolerate fools. gladly. So, I appreciate that trait. Um. you you suffer fools gladly. Um in. hearings like this, we off often focus. on new initiatives undertaken by the. department. Today, I'd like to give you.

an opportunity to discuss actions. implemented under the Biden. administration's Department of Justice, such as the foreign influence task force. that you have since terminated. And you. know, it's always rare to see uh uh. anything in the government terminated, but could you elaborate on those. decisions and highlight the. accomplishments of your tenure at. justice? >> Thank you for asking that. Um we are out. of time, but may I answer? Um chairman, >> go ahead.

>> Thank you. Um the Biden administration. weaponized um the Foreign Corruption. Practices Act and on February 10th, President Trump issued an executive. order pausing that for a DOJ review. Um, under Deputy Attorney General Blanch's. supervision, a comprehensive review was. led and um, the department issued new. guidelines protecting all Americans. Um, and protecting against the weaponization. that happened under the Biden.

administration. >> Time. The gentleman has expired. Gentleman yields back. Gentleman from. New York recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Miss Bondi, I. went over to the department yesterday. for a couple of hours to review some of. the unredacted materials and I am. looking forward to your detailed. explanation for why you have withheld. almost half of the documents which is. required by the bill. >> Now, obviously there are 3 million. documents, so I didn't get through much. >> But one thing I didn't see was the.

client list that you said you had on. your desk a year ago. I did however find. a couple of important documents. An. 86page prosecution memo from the. Southern District of New York and a. draft indictment from Florida against. Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirators. For reasons that I cannot understand nor. are permitted by the bill, they were. still redacted even for members of. Congress. So, Miss Bondi, will you. commit right here to immediately.

providing those two documents in. unredacted form to members of Congress? >> Not a not a complicated question. >> Uh, well, I I I guess it is for you. because you have a law degree and those. are privileged. >> Okay. They're they're not privileged, but we will discuss that later. I also. found an email that I have right here. from Jeffrey Epstein to Gain Maxwell.

that was unredacted and it included. notes of statements that Donald Trump. made about his prior relationship with. Jeffrey Epstein. Now, there is no reason. for this to be hidden from the American. people. There is no privilege. There is. no attorney client privilege. And I see. you're checking with your staff. And I. can assure you staff, this is not under. attorney client privilege because it was. sent from Jeffrey Epstein to Gileain. Maxwell. Will you commit to publicly providing.

the unredacted version of this so that. the American people can understand the. extent of Donald Trump's lies about his. relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? >> You're about as good of a lawyer today. as you were when you tried to impeach. President Trump in 2016. Have you. apologized for that in 2019? >> So are will you not will you unredact. this? Will you und council on that? Privileged. >> I'm asking you, will you unredact this? >> Privileged. >> Privileged. Of course. >> I look forward to discussing this more.

Now, these are obviously improper. redactions. >> And let me stop. >> I'm I'm talking I'm privilege. Quiet. >> Don't yell at me. If they're not. chairman, will you stop the clock? This. is on your time. It's not on Mr. Even. though you used your improper reduction, >> you'll like my answer to continue to. protect belongs to the member. >> Be happy to release them. >> We'll stop the clock. We'll stop the. clock. Time belongs to the member. Go. ahead. >> Even though you used improper redactions. to protect Donald Trump and other.

predators associated with Jeffrey. Epstein, you did the exact opposite. thing with the survivors and victims of. this scheme. So their identification information was. really the only thing required to be. redacted and it was not and it's clear. this was not a mistake. This was not by. accident. This was not because you only. had 30 days when you really used 75 and. that doesn't even include all the hours. last March that you were redacting it.

But I'll tell you why it's clear it. wasn't a mistake. There is an email. entitled Epstein victim list. There are. 32 names. One is redacted. 31 are not. So someone looked at it and decided to. redact something. And I will tell you. that that is clearly intentional to. intimidate these survivors and victims. Now in a interview last week,

>> how will you tell me that's intentional? >> In an interview in an interview last. week, Deputy Attorney General Todd. Blanch, >> you can't go off script. said that any. victim that wants to speak with the. department has done so hopefully. Well, thanks to the incredibly brave people. sitting here behind you, we can actually. ask them if that's true. Now, with the. survivors and victims who are here, please stand up one more time. Just by show of hands, how many of you. or your loved ones actually have met.

with the Department of Justice and. provided testimony and estimate and uh. evidence? None. And of those of you who have not. met, which is everyone, how many of you. have reached out either individually or. through a lawyer or representative to. offer to provide testimony and evidence? All of them. And of those you of you all. of you who have reached out, how many of. you were denied or ignored by the.

Department of Justice? All of them. And despite the shameful. and despicable efforts by Miss Bondi and. her department to intimidate you, how. many of you are still willing to speak. to the Department of Justice? All of. them. Well, Miss Bondi, it looks like. you have some more witness. >> and I yield back. We will go to the good. gentleman from North Carolina, Congressman KN. Thank you. >> May I have a moment, Congressman? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you.

>> Here we go. Here's the photograph. This. is why he wanted to repeat everything. that had been said previously on. Epstein. This is his state, New York. You. probably don't even know who this is. Wahed Muhammad from Afghanistan. >> Yes, because I'm no longer a prosecutor. >> Convicted of assault. Wow. He represents New York. Wow. Yet he. doesn't care about the illegal aliens. convicted of crimes. Assault and. homicide. No longer a prosecutor, so he.

doesn't care about his constituents. Here we go. Arson. El [clears throat]. Salvador. Miguel Palacios. Ferman Flores Ramales. Mexico. Rape. Let's talk about the 70% of immigrants. who are detained without a criminal. conviction or arrest. >> Stop the clock. Stop the clock. Time. belongs to Congressman. Not. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Madam Attorney. General, I want to be sure that the. American people understand exactly what.

we're referring to when we talk about. sanctuary policies. They are often. framed in sort of innocuous terms like. we refuse to take part in immigration. law. And when you add up all of the. population represented by these cowardly. politicians in sanctuary jurisdictions, whether it's a county, city, or state, sanctuary jurisdictions account for. roughly 40% of the United States. Now, in reality, it's much more than just a. passive exercise. Is that not correct?

>> Yes. >> It's unbelievably active. And in terms. of breaking down these terms, I want to. break it down as clearly a term as I. can. What is a federal detainer for the. American people? Please describe it. >> A federal detainer is is when someone is. held in federal custody. >> Yes. And when a federal detainer is. issued to local law enforcement, they. are obviously in local or state custody. Correct. >> Yes. >> And federal officers take note of that. apprehension and they say, "We want to.

come and apprehend him or her to deport. them." Isn't that correct? >> Yes. And in these sanctuary. jurisdictions, whether it's California, Illinois, New York, or other places, even in North Carolina, there are. sanctuary jurisdictions. That federal. detainer often prompts not any. cooperation, not any assistance, but a. release onto the streets. Isn't that. correct? >> Yeah. And Congressman, a federal. detainer is federal law. Yes. That. people must abide by. Yet these.

jurisdictions, many of these. jurisdictions are not abiding by that. And we hear a lot of talk from the other. side about victims, about victims of. violent crimes, sex crimes, murders, whatever it may be. But I want to be. very clear, illegal aliens who have been. arrested for committing some of the most. heinous crimes, they have been released. by sanctuary cities, by sanctuary. states, rather than being turned over to. the federal government for deportation. Isn't that correct? >> It is. And it's um it's sad for all.

Americans that that any jurisdiction. would do that. These are some of the. most violent criminals I think we've all. seen. >> Yes. And despite their best efforts to. obstruct you and the president in making. us all safer, I just want to go through. a quick list again of the. accomplishments that you have um been in. part responsible for achieving. True or. false? The country now has the lowest. murder rate in 125 years. >> Yes. >> True or false? 62 major cities are now. reporting rapid decline in murder rates.

>> Yes. True or false? Robberies are down. nearly 20% over the last year. >> Yes. >> True or false? Violent crime is down. almost 15% over the past year. >> Yes. >> True or false? Right here in Washington. DC, violent crime is down almost 30%. since President Trump took office. >> Yes. And the number may be even better. than that, but yes. Good. Yes. >> True or false? The DEA has seized over. 200,000 kilograms of cocaine since.

President Trump took office. I believe so. And um 200. hold 78,500. kilos of meth and more than 260,000. kilos of cocaine. >> Unbelievable. >> That's lives saved every day for all of. us, for families, for children. >> And then true or false, the Department. of Justice under your leadership has a. 92% success rate at the Supreme Court. >> I believe so. >> Or ballpark.

>> Ballpark. And then true or false, this. administration is attacking the waste, fraud, and abuse that we have seen in. places like Minnesota that is removing. billions of hard-earned tax dollars from. this country. >> Absolutely. And President Trump is. committed to doing that in every city in. this country. And Madam Attorney. General, just to be very brief here, I. want to be sure that you know that many. on this committee. made very serious efforts to try to. amend the Epstein petition to give you. the resources and the time to protect. victims, to go through and to have the.

the the necessary runway to thoroughly. go through that file. Unfortunately, those requests were met with refusal and. we were unable to make the necessary. amendments. But thank you for being here. today. >> Thank you. Good gentle yields. >> Good gentleman yields back. Uh we turn. to the good lady from California, Congresswoman Kamlager Dove. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Attorney General, for being here today. I want to talk with you about an issue. on which there is broad bipartisan.

agreement, the importance of ensuring. trust between the American public and. those government officials who wield. powerful law enforcement. responsibilities. So, attorney general, would you agree that it is important for. law enforcement leaders to be honest? >> Of course. As well as members of. Congress. >> Thank you. And would you include. yourself as a law enforcement leader?

>> Of course. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You know, President Trump has also uh well, he has. referred to himself as the chief law. enforcement officer of this country. So, do you believe that President Trump is. honest? >> He is the commander and chief of the. United States of America. And not only. is Trump keeping this country safe, he. is keeping this world. It's a simple. question which I do. He is the commander.

and chief. Last June, Minnesota lawmaker. Melissa Hortman, her husband Mark, and. their dog were brutally murdered in. their home. And your USA's office in. Minnesota investigated this crime and. obtained a sixcount indictment of the. murder suspect, stating that he had. intent to kill, injury, harass, and. intimidate Minnesota legislators. And I. have the copy right here. I read through.

it. Yet a few weeks ago, President Trump. suggested publicly that Minnesota. Governor Tim Walsh was behind these. murders, posting on his truth social. account a video raising this conspiracy. theory. And it wasn't true. And you know. it wasn't true. Or else you would not. have brought an indictment against the. subject. Do you know what else Trump has. said? He has said he has cut gas prices. by 1,400%.

False. That he won the 2020 election. >> Actually, gas is down to a $1.99 a. gallon. Thanks to that he didn't know. Epstein. Maybe $5 in California. >> It's my time, Mr. Chair. That he sent. water to LA during the wildfires. False. That Governor Westmore of Maryland. called him the greatest president of his. lifetime. False. So many tales, too many. to keep up. But I want to go back to. what he said about Tim Walsh. Do you.

agree that President Trump undermined. public trust in law enforcement by. suggesting that Governor Wals was. involved in the Hortman murders? >> I am not familiar with that statement. Well, that is a disappointing response. and it is also why your office and. Donald Trump have zero credibility. because I know and you know it was a. right-wing extremist who murdered the. Hortman's and you and the president are.

being dishonest with the American. people. Last fall after the horrific. shooting of Charlie Kirk, President. Trump was asked if there were extremists. on both the left and the right. and his. exact words were, "I'll tell you. something that's going to get me in. trouble, but I couldn't care less. The. radicals on the right oftentimes are. radical because they don't want to see. crime. The radicals on the left are the. problem and they're vicious and they're. horrible and they're politically savvy. Do you agree with this statement?

You're taking too long, Madame Attorney. General. But you know the answer because. your own department has addressed the. question. In 24, the DOJ's research arm. issued a report on domestic terrorism. stating that the far number of far-right. attacks continues to outpace all other. types of terrorism and domestic violence. extremist. The DOJ published the report. and after the president made those. comments, the DOJ took the report down.

And I sent you a letter asking you a. simple question. Why did the D Justice. Department remove the data that shows. rightwing extremists have killed more. innocent people than leftwing. extremists? >> Did you refer to immigration enforcement. as domestic terrorism? >> You should answer my question. you're on. my time, but you won't. And what I am. asking you to do is put the report back.

Restore the data. Stop scrubbing. important data from your website. Stop. taking down reports that you know the. American people need to know about. There are violent, dangerous people out. here with real threats. And the danger. from your agency comes from the covering. up of these threats that could hurt. American people and put our lives at. risk. Do better. And with that, I yield. back. Mr. >> Gentle lady yields back. The gentleman. from North Carolina is recognized. >> May I have [clears throat] one moment?

>> You may. >> Her district includes Culver City and. she's not talking about any crime in her. districts. Nothing about helping crime. in her district. She's not even worth. getting into the details. Well, thank you, Madam Attorney General, and we are grateful to have you here. today. And let me just say that um. you've shown great perseverance today, and I think you're coming to the last. lap here of those of us that are left, but I applaud your strength and I. applaud your resolve. Um,

Madam Attorney General, as a pastor for. over 37 years now, I take serious issue. with any attempts by agitators to. disrupt church services or activities at. houses of worship. And I just want to. take a moment to clarify some things. I. realize you can't talk about pending. cases per se, but I do want to ask some. very general questions for. clarification. Does the DOJ consider. unauthorized entry into a house of. worship to be protected activity under.

the First Amendment when undertaken by a. member of the press? >> Unauthorized with the intent of. >> Unauthorized with the intent of. disrupting. Yes. >> Okay. >> Even if it's a blogger like Don Lumen. >> Correct. How does the DOJ distinguish. between news gathering activity and. expressive or protest conduct when a. press defense is asserted?

Congressman, I I met with the pastor of. that church and what happened there um. was horrific. Of course, the press is. welcome in I would hope all houses of. worship, whether it's a synagogue, whether it's a church, any house of. worship. Um, however, what happened. here, it's a pending case again, but. within the four corners of the. indictment, um, they were quote gearing up for a. resistance. They entered a house of worship and I.

think the video speaks for itself. Um. what happened in there, what the video. doesn't show is there were approximately. 400 parishioners in there on a Sunday. morning. >> Families um grandparents with canes, children upstairs in in um Sunday school. who were their parents were blocked from. getting to them once this resistance. took place. And they had named it. Operation Pullup. I've um it was.

heartbreaking for those families. They. were terrified. I think they've all said. that and u nothing like that should. happen in this country and under my. watch it won't. Thank you. And and just. to clarify, accosting members of a. congregation and creating a scene marked. by intimidation and threat inside a. house of worship would not be protected. first amendment activity. Correct. >> Absolutely not. And a grand jury has. indicted individuals over that. Thank.

you. One other question just shifting a. little bit. Um, you know, my home state. of North Carolina has been making. national headlines at times, particularly in the city of Charlotte. We've made pleass. uh for our governor to get involved, bring in the National Guard. Our uh. Fraternal Order of Police had pointed. out that we were about 270 local cops. below what we needed in order to. adequately police the city. And yet the. governor has declined to offer to. partner with the federal government to.

bring in reinforcements to Charlotte. I. want to give you just a few moments, really the balance of my time, to. explain the impact that Memphis SAFE. task force has had on crime and safety. in Memphis because I know there was a. place we saw that cooperation has tended. to breed great results and I would love. to hear a little more about that. >> Thank you. And I I have numbers for you, too. Um. well, and we're all right here in DC. We're all living right here in DC. And I.

think we've seen the remarkable impact. that it has working with members of the. Democrat party on this with law. enforcement, with the mayor, um do with. the police chief doing everything we can. to make DC safe. Um, as of February 9th, there were nearly 10,000 arrests. This is DC. >> 1,000 illegal gun seized since the. operation began with carjackings down.

81%. from this time last year and violent. crime down 42%. DC [clears throat] is safer because of. it. Um, we know we had a National. Guardsman shot and we had a a beautiful. young woman killed. I went to her. funeral and I keep in touch with the. National Guardsman um who who was shot, his parents um he's doing great. He's a. miracle. Please continue to pray for. him. I I know my time is up, but same.

results I spoke about earlier um in. Memphis and we're still working on that. with the help of um make Memphis safe. again. Well, again, I I think it just. draws an incredible contrast between. what we've seen happening in Minneapolis. versus what we've seen happen in DC, what we saw happen in Memphis, and what. I would love to see in some ways, if we. could ever get our governor to work with. us in North Carolina, to happen in. Charlotte. But with that, I yield back. Thank you. >> Time of the gentleman has expired. That. gentle lad is recognized.

>> Thank you. Do I seek unanimous consent. to introduce into the record the. research that Representative Klugger. Dove and I referenced concerning the. threat of right-wing domestic terrorism. which the Department of Justice scrubbed. from its website in September. >> Without objection, the uh gentle lady. from Texas is recognized. >> Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. And to. be clear, I'm not going to ask any. questions of this witness because this. witness has revealed that she has no. intentions of answering questions. But. instead, I'm gonna ask some very basic. questions really quickly of my colleague. Becca Balant if she will answer. Right.

or wrong, raping children? >> Wrong. >> Right or wrong, killing random citizens? >> Definitely wrong. >> Right or wrong, enriching yourself as. the sitting president of the United. States? >> Definitely wrong. >> Okay, thank you. Cuz I probably never. would have got that with our witness. Our witness who somehow is a lawyer but. does not understand how it works with. witnesses. I'm not really sure what law. school she went to and what all kind of. cases she tried, but typically when you. come into a space and somebody's a. witness, then they sit there and they. answer questions instead of asking.

questions. And then we also have this. objection that we use as lawyers called. non-responsive. When a witness fails to. actually answer the question, but. nevertheless, let me address the. survivors because that's exactly who. they are. They are not victims, they are. survivors. Let me say thank you for. having more courage and moral clarity in. your pinky fingers than the entire. Department of Justice. We are currently. the laughingtock of the world partially. because of the failed leadership within. the DOJ as we see kings and queens.

fallen everywhere around the world. But. we don't know the basics of right and. wrong in this country because it's not. about partisanship. And that's why I. applaud Thomas Massie because he's the. only person on the Republican side that. has a backbone and knows how to stand up. to corruption. But nevertheless, let me. keep going. My Democratic colleagues. have been attacked this entire committee. hearing. They have been lied on. And. frankly, the American people weren't. looking for that. They were looking for. answers about the corruption that they. see coming from this administration. In.

the w in the written testimony of this. witness of of this particular witness, she stated that when she took office, she had two main goals. The first was to. end the weaponization of justice and. second to return the department to its. core mission. Not only have you lied. about both, you've intentionally done. the exact opposite. You're spending more. taxpayer resources arresting journalists. than you are prosecuting pedophiles and. creeps. In fact, your boss, the. president of the United States, stated.

that this administration, quote, took. the freedom of speech away and at your. direction, DOJ has arrested Don Lemon. and Georgia Fort. And I might add that. y'all actually had a judge that rejected. y'all for trying to arrest Don Lemon. before, just like the grand jury. rejected y'all as it relates to Senator. Kelly. Just like a grand jury rejected. y'all as it relates to Senator Slackin, just like the case against Tish James. was dismissed. and the case against Mr. Comey was dismissed. I completely don't.

get how it is that you're sitting at the. top of DOJ cuz you don't seem to be good. at your job. You're spending more. taxpayer resources arresting these. journalists. In fact, we know after Georgia Fort and Don Lemon. were arrested, we know that there were. homes of journalists that were raided. We know that threatened prosecution. against students protesting your actions. and forced tech companies to remove apps. used to track ISIS activities. But let's. circle back to you protecting pedophiles.

and creeps because I want to talk about. the president and his possible. involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, I. don't know what the president might have. done with Jeffrey Epste, but unlike this. administration, I believe that facts. matter. So, let's talk about the facts. Fact number one, Donald Trump is one of. the most named people in the Epstein. files. At least 5,000 files contains. more than 38,000 references to Trump, his wife, or Mara Lago. Fact number two, Jeffrey Epstein and Galain Maxwell made. young girls available to Trump on.

multiple occasions. For example, according to this file, Galain Maxwell. presented a young girl to President. Trump, who spent more than 20 minutes. apparently flirting with her. Here's. another example. This shows notes from. FBI investigators that describe Jeffrey. Epstein transporting a victim to Mara. Lago to meet with President Trump where. he bragged to Trump that quote, "This is. a good one." Now, I'm not saying that. the president is a pedophile, but there. is a lot of evidence in these files that. suggests that he's very close friends.

with a lot of men who are pedophiles. What's crazy about all of this is just. that this is a big cover up and this. administration is engaged in it. In. fact, this administration is complicit. But there are numerous others like how. the DOJ is attempting to obstruct. justice in the investigation of the. rogue agents who have murdered American. citizens. Or how the DOJ seized voter. data from Fulton County in an attempt to. steal the 2026 midterm elections. Or how. federal agents have Tom Hman on tape. accepting a bribe in your agency killed.

the investigation or how your agency is. ready to give the president a $230. million day payday which is. unconstitutional. The Constitution is. clear. The president shall not receive. any payment except his salary while in. office. The fact of the matter is that. you will be remembered as one of the. worst attorney generals in history. An. attorney general who has prioritized. obstruction over justice, corruption. over the law, feelalty to the president. over loyalty to the constitution. And. Mr. Chairman, I will yield. >> Gentle lady yields. Gentleman from. Missouri is recogniz Excuse me.

Gentleman from Kansas, the attorney. general, former attorney general. Uh Mr. Schmidt is recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. chairman and uh General. [clears throat] Bondi, thanks for being. here. Did you have anything you wanted. to say before we talk? >> I do. Thank you, Congressman. Thank you, my friend, for many years. Um I find it. interesting that she didn't even want to. try Congresswoman Crockett to ask any. questions because she certainly did not. condemn her leader, Hakee Jeff, for. taking money from Jeffrey Epstein after.

Epstein was convicted. And I will be. brief to give you your time, Congressman. This is what she didn't. want to talk about. Texas from Cuba. convicted homicide arson weapon offense. >> convicted. So what we talking about? Convict some of these perpetrators that. raped these women that are sitting. belong. to even acknowledge they are here. >> Time belongs to the gentleman from. Kansas. >> Mr. Chairman, could I have a few seconds. back to make up for the yelling? Thank. you. General, did you have anything.

further to say? >> Texas convicted of homicide. Ceil Joseph from Dominican Republic. Texas convicted for kidnapping rape. Khaled Khan from Afghanistan. That's why they want to talk about. Epstein and not what's happening in. their own states. >> Thank you, General, and thank you for. being here. And um this has been quite a. spectacle to observe today. I think it's.

sad. I ran for Congress because I. thought we had serious problems in this. country we wanted to try to fix. together. And this performance today, not yours, General, but some of my. colleagues, has not shored up my. confidence that uh we are up to the. task. You and I served together for. eight years when you were attorney. general of Florida and I in Kansas. Uh. you serve professionally. I'm glad to be. able to serve with you in these new. roles and I'm glad you're there uh both. generally and today. Part of the reason. I ran for Congress is because in my. former role, I saw uh in the real world,

in my state, the consequences of failed. US immigration and border security. policy. And I'll spare you the lengthy. recitation, but let me give you the. short version. I sit here and think. about a fellow who was running, I. believe it was drugs for the cartels and. shot a police officer in Oklahoma, drove. across the border into my state, kidnapped an old man, and then invaded a. house and shot at cops before uh we. ultimately uh neutralized him. He's in. prison now for I believe the rest of his. life. Uh I'm thinking about a drunk.

driver who was in our country illegally. Never should have been here and one. night killed a young deputy on southern. Johnson County, Kansas. Uh who was. making a traffic stop on another. individual. Drunk driver ran into him. Never should have been here. Shouldn't. have happened. Thinking about a guy who. was deported repeatedly, came back and. ultimately murdered, I believe it was. four people in Kansas City, Kansas, and. then fled to Missouri and killed a fifth. guy. He died in prison. I'm thinking. about a guy we prosecuted who wasn't. supposed to be in this country who raped. a child in a little rural county up. north on the Nebraska border and we sent. him to prison for I believe the rest of. his life. Thinking about a guy who.

wasn't supposed to be here at all who. murdered I think it was his wife or his. domestic partner in an act of domestic. violence in northwest Kansas. Thinking. about another guy who was here and. joined up with some folks who were. citizens and committed a crime spree and. then thought he might get caught. So, he. killed one of his accompllices and we. sent him to prison for the rest of his. life. And that's just the ones I'm. thinking about sitting right here. And. you know what's common in all of those? They all committed violations of my. state's law. They were caught by my. state's law enforcement. They were. prosecuted by my state's prosecutors. They are serving time in my state's.

prisons. And if and when they ever get. out, the United States has said they. need to be sent out of this country. because of what they did. There's a. list, you're holding up photos, general, there's a list on the Department of. Homeland Security's website. It has. about 280, 290 people like that in my. state of Kansas. And you know what? We. haven't made headlines like Minneapolis. We haven't made headlines like Memphis. We haven't made headlines like Los. Angeles. And you know why? Because our. cops are professionals. And our. politicians by law allow them to do.

their job and to work with federal. agents for safe handoffs in order to do. everything that's supposed to be done. Justice under state law and the justice. of deportation on the back end. So, I. want to do something that's been rare. here today, General. I want to ask you. about public policy. Donald Trump won't. be president forever. I would like to. lock in some of these gains we have made. in public safety. Should we be exploring. the idea, for example, of beefing up. 287g partnerships or maybe replicating. that so that state prosecutors can work. more closely with federal prosecutors to. get deportation orders as well as state.

convictions? >> Absolutely. >> In terms of sanctuary jurisdictions, when a sanctuary jurisdiction says as a. matter of politics, go pound sand to the. feds. We won't honor your detainer. So, they release those people I'm talking. about and into their communities. and. those people commit another crime of. property or violence against citizens, should those citizens have some type of. civil redress against the jurisdiction. that is a matter of public policy turned. those people loose who created the new. victims? >> Yeah. And Congressman, it's it's risking. the lives of of all all of all of the.

citizens of that jurisdiction. >> And you've been sued a lot or the. administration has by folks who don't. like your policies. >> hundreds of times. >> You've won many of those. >> Yes. Isn't it the case that the law says. under rule 65 that when you win those. and there's a wrongfully entered. injunction that there's supposed to be a. monetary remedy for that so there's a. cost? >> Yes. >> And didn't the president direct you and. other agency heads to start seeking. bonds in those cases? >> Yes. >> And should we beef up the law in that. area by codifying that requirement going.

forward? >> I would love to discuss that with you. >> Thank you, General. Thank you for being. here. >> Gentleman yields back. Well done. some. of the questions he raised. We plan on. taking up a markup in a couple weeks on. the whole sanctuary jurisdiction issue. With that, I recognize the gentleman. from Texas. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you. uh Madame Attorney General for for. taking the time to to speak with us. Uh. we certainly really appreciate it. I've. got a series of questions for you that. we can uh get through pretty pretty. quickly. I I think um can you tell me is. is it true that the Biden Harris DOJ.

raided President Trump's home? >> They did. Did the Biden Harris DOJ allow. Jack Smith to spy on over a dozen. Republican members of Congress? >> Absolutely. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ seize the phone. of a sitting Republican congressman? >> Yes. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ and Jack Smith. pay at least $20,000 to confidential. human sources to provide information on. President Trump? >> At least. >> At least. Did the Biden Harris, DOJ, and. FBI fail to apprehend the suspect who. placed pipe bombs near the capital ahead.

of January 6th? Yes. >> Did the Biden Harris G DOJ target. parents as domestic terrorists? >> Absolutely. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ target pro-life. Catholics going so far as to interview a. priest and a choir director? >> Yes. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ send FBI SWAT. teams to arrest pro-life advocates with. no criminal histories? >> Yes. Did the Biden Harris DOJ use the. FACE Act to target pro-life ad advocates. while it allowed anti-life agitators to.

vandalize, destroy, and firebomb. pregnancy resource centers and churches? >> Multiple times, I believe. >> Multiple times. Did the Biden Harris DOJ. ever determine who leaked the DOS. decision? >> I can't discuss that. No. Oh, no. Under. Biden No. Under Biden Harris. >> Got it. >> No. Did the Biden, Harris, DOJ, and and. FBI target whistleblowers for revealing. waste, fraud, and abuse within the. department to Congress? >> Not to my knowledge.

>> Did the Biden Harris DOJ refuse to say. whether it coordinated with Alvin Bragg, Fanny Willis, and Leticia James in their. lawfare against President Trump? >> They refused. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ swalked the. criminal investigation and prosecution. of Hunter Biden? >> That's an understatement in my opinion. >> Yep. Did the Biden Harris DOJ uh. determine who brought cocaine into the. Biden White House? >> They did not. >> They did not. The Did the Biden Harris. DOJ cover up the. >> As far as we know, they did not.

>> Right. That's right. Did the Biden. Harris DOJ cover up the extent of the. Russia collusion hoax? >> Absolutely. In my opinion, yes. Did the. Biden Harris DOJ DOJ, excuse me, seek. leniency from a federal court for an IRS. contractor who leaked sensitive tax. information on over 7,600 Americans, including President Trump? >> Yes. >> Did the Biden Harris DOJ sue Texas. because the state wanted to secure its. own southern border?

>> Yes. >> And finally, did the Biden Harris DOJ. attack SpaceX for hiring too many. Americans? >> I believe they did. Yep. >> Unbelievable. >> It It is unbelievable. And I I. appreciate that a lot of this is is. being cleaned up under your leadership. Um so thank you for returning the DOJ. back to its core focus, which is on the. rule of law. And I think that we see the. results of that. I've got a few more. similar questions for you. How have uh. over the past year since President Trump.

has been in office, how have murders. trended in the United States? Since. President Trump has has been in office, the murder rate has um dropped to a. historic 20% drop in the national murder. rate. Lowest since 1900. >> 20% drop in one year. That's incredible, isn't it? And that's thanks to the. incredible men and women of law. enforcement, um, FBI, DEA, ATF, everyone. working together to solve violent crime. along with our sheriffs, our local law.

enforcement working as a team throughout. this country and our great state and. federal prosecutors. >> Yep. And how have robberies trended? >> Have they gone? Even if they've just. robber Oh, robberies, all violent crime, it's a. all violent crime. Violent crime has. decreased as well as robberies. >> So murders, violent crime, the country. is more safe now, it's fair to say, would you agree, than it was a year and. a half ago under Joe Biden? >> Absolutely. And Director Patel is.

working tirelessly to catch those, I'm. sure you've been seen, on the most. wanted list. >> He he and Deputy Director Bonino from. day one said, "We're going to get the. most wanted list." And that's what's. been happening, working hand inand with. with all of our agencies. >> Yep. And I want to thank you for that. Thank you for the work you've been doing. to refocus the DOJ again on doing your. core job. We're we're very happy with. it. And I'll yield the remainder of my. time to uh to the chairman. >> I I appreciate gentlemen. I I would just. say earlier one of the Democrats said.

that they said who who who are you? Who. you are? And I I think you're the you're. the attorney general who I think on the. first day disbanded the fittiff first. day on the job presented the memo that. required spying on parents that Mr. Garland had issued and stood up the. weaponization working group. I think you. did that all on day one. >> Day one. >> Uh not to mention you're the first. Justice Department that's put in place, as we've talked about earlier, this this. deputy attorney general for combating. fraud. Um so we we appreciate that and. of course all the things that Mr. uh Mr.

Gil pointed out with the crime stats. that have went down. So our last. question of the day but not the least, the gentleman. Well, I'm sorry. We got. to have two more. We got Mr. Ander and. then Mr. Bonger. So Mr. Bonger, you. Well, let's go that way since you're. here. You ready to go? Mr. Bomberg and. then we'll come back to Mr. Andre. >> Uh thank you Mr. Chairman and thank you. Attorney General uh Bondi. You know. being a freshman on this committee uh. you always uh uh get a bit surprised I. guess even one year into my term here. how theatrical uh days like this uh can.

be. Um. but I think you've performed well today. and answered the questions well today. and that's a credit to you and uh and. appreciated by the uh American uh. people. You know, the Epstein issue is. certainly important and is important uh. for the victims. I I think both I and. the American people have a little bit of. uh trouble taking the Democrats super. seriously on this issue when they have. been so uncurious about uh President. Clinton's uh relations with uh with uh.

Jeffrey Epstein. And even myself, I had. no idea that there was actually a. sitting Democrat congresswoman who had. taken substantial campaign donations uh. for Mr. Epstein only when that came. light on the floor with the potential. resolution and you would think there. would be more outrage on those types of. things if they were going to be taking. uh credible but uh but we do know the. performance value of what goes on in. this uh in this committee. Uh I want to. talk about the big things that. Department of Justice uh is doing. And.

when I look at the dramatic decrease in. crime in this country uh in the in the. last year since uh the Trump. administration has come, you'll see the. board behind me. Violent crime plummets. across major US cities. And I guess so. my first question would be when it comes. to the big stuff, how are you guys. getting this stuff so right? uh what is. what is the what contributes uh from. your perspective to this dramatic. decrease in crime in major US cities. under the Trump administration?

When I first took office, I I met with. all of our agencies and the the one. thing that that stuck with me that that. one of the heads of one the department. said to me, one of the law enforcement. department heads, "President Trump has. taken the handcuffs off us so we can. keep the people of America safe." And. that's what he's done. He has given our. law enforcement officers the tools that. they need and the backing that they. need, the support that they need to.

combat violent crime and all crime. throughout this country. And you know, I'd be remiss, we've talked about the. FBI, we've talked about DEA a bit, but. but can I please brag about ATF? Um Rob. Sakata and Dan Driscoll of course who. has been our acting head of ATF have. done a remarkable job stopping guns from. flowing in to Mexico not harassing gun. owners. 26,965.

violent crime cases have been initiated. including more than 4,300 firearms. trafficking cases. more than 1,200 of. those are tied to gun trafficking in. Mexico. I I talk to them almost daily. >> Thank you. >> And they're working so hard. >> Well, thank you uh attorney general. And. you know, I look back at this last year. and we've had this historic tax uh cut. uh yesterday in the Wall Street Journal,

the National Council or National Cancer. Foundation ran full page ads thanking. Congress, the administration for doing. more for cancer research than has ever. been done before. I was just meeting. with Habitat for Humanity out in the. hallway and they came and thanked us for. doing more for Habitat and Humanity. So. there's been so many uh so many. accomplishments, but I really think this. crime deal is the biggest deal of all. Um but I do have some concerns on this. issue and those also are respect to how. we keep people safe with sanctuary.

cities and sanctuary states. And I. remind everyone and I as I sure you know. uh madam attorney general that when we. had the terrible terrorist attacks of. 9/11 uh the number one recommendation of. the 9/11 commission was to reduce. barriers between all levels of law. enforcement. They specifically pointed. to things like fusion centers, joint. terrorism task force and getting local. law enforcement and federal law. enforcement to work together and. communicate on a regular basis. And I.

would just like your perspective because. we have a more complex global threat uh. than any time since World War II. We. still have Islamic terrorism. We have. spies from China, uh Iran, Russia, all. these things. And what does sanctuary. cities and states do for communication. law enforcement? How does it make us. less safe? >> Well, sanctuary cities and states are. attempting to prevent communication. among all the law enforcement agencies.

And of course, that's keeping all of. America less safe, especially when the. violent criminals are fleeing to those. jurisdictions because they believe. they're protected. But with all of our. joint task forces, I see it every day, Congressman, how well despite despite. what these liberals are trying trying to. do, Donald Trump's administration is. working tirelessly tirelessly to protect. all of Americans and all of our agencies. working hand inand to keep America safe.

>> Well, you guys are getting the big stuff. right. You look at that decrease in. crime across the country, you ought to. take a victory lap. Well done. >> Gentleman yields back. The gentleman. from Missouri is recognized. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Attorney General Bondi, for being here. on this long day. And I want to thank. you most of all for your leadership in. your whole career defending victims. And. now, I want to take uh a moment to talk. about you protecting victims from a. different kind of child abuse, that. medicalized child abuse that goes under.

the banner of gender affirming care that. far too many of my Democrat colleagues. enthusiastically support and. unapologetically support. Shortly after. returning to office, President Trump. signed an executive order uh direct. directing HHS to review the clinical. evidence and determine whether sex. rejecting interventions caused more harm. than good. HHS re reached the same. conclusion that the UK and Finland and. uh and Sweden reached that the risks are. serious and that imposing this this.

so-called care on minors was not. appropriate. Um, this executive order. also directed you as attorney general. general to quote, uh, work to draft, propose, and promote legislation to. enact a private right of action for. children and the parents of children. whose healthy body parts have been. damaged by medical professionals. practicing chemical and surgical. mutilation, which should include a. lengthy statute of limitations. Last se.

last September, you transmitted that. bill to Congress. It has been my honor. to introduce that bill as the Khloe Cole. Act. We named the bill after Khloe Cole. who sat where you're sitting uh just a. few years ago on her 19th birthday. >> during a hearing chaired by now Speaker. Mike Johnson. I'd like to play a clip of. her testimony that day to reminders of. our story. on puberty blockers and then. testosterone. The resulting. menopausal-like hot flashes made.

focusing on school impossible. I still. get joint pains and weird pops in my. back, but they were far worse when I was. on the blockers. A month later, when I was 13, I had my. first testosterone injection. It's. caused permanent changes to my body. My. voice will forever be deeper, my jawline. sharper, my nose longer, my bone. structure um permanently masculineized, my Adam's apple more prominent, my. fertility unknown. I look in the mirror. sometimes and I feel like a monster.

I had a double masectomy at 15. They. tested my amputated breast for cancer. and I was cancer-free. Of course, I was. perfectly healthy. There was nothing. wrong with my still developing body. or. my breasts. Other than that, as an. insecure teenage girl, I felt awkward. about it. After my breasts were taken. away from me, the tissue was. incinerated. Before I was able to. legally drive, I had part I had a huge. part of my future womanhood taken from.

me. I will never be able to breastfeed. I struggle to look at myself in the. mirror at times. I I I still I still. struggle to this day with sexual. dysfunction. And I have massive scars. across my chest and the skin grafts that. they use that they took in my nipples. are weeping fluid today. And they were. grafted into a more masculine. positioning. They said. Chloe testified that day what that what. she needed was was mental health.

therapy, but she never received it and. she was not suicidal until after they. did these horrible things to her. uh she. pleaded with Congress to act so that. future children would not suffer what. she did. Uh last week was a major. turning point in this this for this uh. for these medical malpractice claims. when a dransitioner was the first to. successfully hold doctors liable uh with. a $2 million settlement for what they. did [music] to that poor girl. Just days.

later, the American Society of PLA. plastic surgeons and announced that they. would no longer do transgender surgeries. on minor in the minors in the AMA. followed suit. Uh this proves that if. the bill your DOJ drafted uh were passed. into law, these barbaric practices would. end immediately because all victims. would be able to be able to hold those. who harm them accountable. Could you. share with us a little bit about your. work in advocating uh for victims like. Khloe and what a private action right of.

action would mean for victims like her. and their families? >> Yes. And and first, Congressman, thank. you for championing this bill. >> And also to to Chloe, what a brave young. woman to come before this body. [clears throat]. >> Yes. >> And. >> at age 19. at age 19 and talk about what. happened to her. Um, it's not about just. giving relief to children who have been.

harmed. It allows victims um whose. healthy body parts have been damaged to. seek relief and obtain relief and and. thanks to you and we are proud to work. hand inand with you on this issue. And I. I think it's pretty sad none of our your. colleagues on the other side of the. aisle even brought that up. But I I I. hope they support this to protect all. children throughout this country. >> Well, General Bondi, thank you so much. to you, to your department, to President. Trump. I yield back.

>> Gentleman yields back. >> I've just saved some UC requests for the. end, Mr. Chairman. >> Okay, go right ahead. >> Thank you kindly. Uh record low crime. during the Biden Harris administration. crime down in every category in 2024. under Biden. FBI report says Trump takes. credit for violent crime drop where. rates were already falling. um from NPR. Trump administration. targets ATF with plans to cut jobs and. ease gun restrictions. And then the a. few oldies but goodies. I've introduced. these before about the claim that we.

didn't have anything to say about. Epstein before the Trump administration. Raskin joins call for attorney general. to reopen Epstein case and publicly. release Acasta misconduct investigation. in documents March 1, 2019. Oversight. committee plans hearing with Acasta on. plea deal with Epstein July 10, 2019. And finally, 68 House members call for. resignation of labor secretary Acasta. July 10, 2019. >> Without objection, uh, Attorney General. Bondi, thank you for your service to the. country. Um, and thank you for being.

here for a long day. We appreciate your. willingness to uh come and answer our. questions and the great job you're doing. for um our country. And the I got one. thing I got to say. This concludes. today's hearing. We thank our witness. for appearing before the committee. Without objection, all members will have. five legislative days to submit. additional written questions for the. witness or additional materials for the. record. Without objection, the hearing. is adjourned.

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