BREAKING: Trump PANICS amid SHOCK bad news
Something pretty amazing got virtually. zero coverage because of everything. that's going on right now with Iran, with gas prices, with Epstein, and on. and on. But on Tuesday, Democrat Chris. Taylor flipped a seat on the Wisconsin. Supreme Court, expanding the liberal. majority from 4 to 3 to 5:2. But the. real story here is this. Back in 2024, Trump actually won six of the eight. congressional districts in Wisconsin. But on Tuesday, Chris Taylor won seven. of the eight congressional districts, meaning a flip of support in five seats.
The only seat in Wisconsin that didn't. have higher Democratic support than. Republican support is Wisconsin's fifth. congressional district. And that went. from a 22point margin for Trump to a. 9-point margin, meaning a 13-point swing. to the left. And that's a 13-point swing. in the reddest district in the in the. state. The biggest swing in the state. was actually in Wisconsin's third. district where there was a 28 point. swing to the left. And if we see these. kind of numbers play out nationally, then the House is gone for Republicans.
And in fact, the Democrats would also. take the Senate. And better news yet, the candidates that Democrats are. fielding for the Senate are as strong as. they come. Uh Roy Cooper in North. Carolina is pulling between 8 and 18. points ahead. Shared Brown in Ohio is. pulling one to two points ahead. James. Terico in Texas also pulling one to two. points ahead. Mary Pelah, who you'll. hear from in a few minutes from now, is. pulling roughly four points ahead. We've. got strong candidates in Maine, in. Michigan. And with Trump continuing this. unpopular war, with gas prices.
continuing to rise with inflation still. surging, doesn't look like things are. going to get better for Republicans. anytime soon. And clearly those. Republicans are aware. 36 of them in the. House and seven Republicans in the. Senate have already announced that. they're not seeking re-election, which. is the most of any point in nearly a. century since this data was compiled. starting in 1930. For comparison, the. 2018 midterm cycle uh saw 34 Republicans. choose not to run for reelection. That.
was a cycle that resulted in Democrats. flipping 40 seats, the biggest midterm. victory in modern American history. The. Republicans retirements right now are. greater than in 2016 2018. And again, it's clear why. Remember, Trump and his. party ran on a few central promises. Affordability, cheap gas, no foreign. wars. And what happened? The exact. opposite on all counts. Grocery prices. have risen since Trump took office in. January. Uh consumer prices overall are. up during Trump's second term. Inflation.
is now expected to rise beyond 5% which. is nearly double what it was when. inflation public enemy number one Joe. Biden left office. Gas prices are at. their highest point in years. And then. of course the war in the Middle East is. an abject disaster, leaving uh the US in. a position where we are weaker and Iran. is stronger after all of this. None of. which of course is going to stop Trump. from lying about it. But what Democrats. learned in 2024 is a lesson that Trump. and Republicans are learning right now, which is you can try and convince people.
not to believe their own lying eyes, but. grocery bills, utility bills, and. expenses don't lie. And they are all. more expensive thanks to Trump and the. GOP. And here's what almost impossibly. makes all of those lies even worse. Trump isn't just hurting Americans. financially right now. He's also. enriching himself in the process. So, while we're all paying more, while. health care and food assistance are. being gutted, while costs are rising, Trump is showering himself in gold and. crypto, building himself a ballroom and. arches, profiting off the presidency,
using his office to line his own. pockets, and he's doing it in broad. daylight. And it turns out people in. this country don't like to be conned, especially by a guy who ran a whole ass. campaign decrying con artists in. government. And don't take it from me, Trump has lost the support from even his. most vocal allies, Margie Tiller Green, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Alex Jones, Candace Owens, because they're making. the calculation that their careers are. probably going to last longer than. Donald Trump is. And given the way. things are going, they're probably.
right. So they figure it's more. convenient to just drop him now, knowing. full well that he's already lost the. base with the way that he's governing. And so they're just skating to where the. puck is going, not where it is right. now. So, while the retirements and the. resignations are already historic, frankly, I'd probably expect more. because Trump has made it next to. impossible for these Republicans to win. as we head toward midterms. And. honestly, these Republicans haven't done. themselves any favors either with their. collective fear of upsetting dear. leader. A party of desperates and.
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Donald Trump just over the last 24, 48. hours, especially as it relates to Iran, can you talk about some new update that. you have regarding the 25th Amendment? >> Sure. Um well, the the update is really. just that there was overwhelming popular. revulsion and angst about the president. threatening to commit war crimes and. potentially genocide in Iran. And our. constitution is definitely not.
customuilt for somebody like Donald. Trump. I mean, it's taken us, you know, two and a half centuries to get to a. president um who is imposing this kind. of stress on our constitutional system. But the closest thing we have to deal. with a situation like this is section 4. of the 25th amendment. And it's not. perfectly. congruent with the needs of the time, but it may be the closest thing, which. is why so many people have seized upon.
it. Um, and so I'm happy to explain its. architecture and then what conceivably. could be done. >> Yeah, I would like to to hear both of. those things. >> The 25th amendment is all about. continuity and stability in government. So the it was passed in 1967. and section one of it says that um the. vice president becomes the president of. the United States in the event of a. vacancy. that was actually necessary.
because it was never really clear before. that whether the vice president was just. an acting president or really was the. president. And so this establishes the. vice president becomes the president if. there's a vacancy. Um the section two of. the 25th amendment says if there's a. vacancy in the vice presidency, the. president nominates uh a vice president. and that person um is uh elected when he. or she gets a majority of the vote in. the House and the Senate. Section three,
and both of those have been used, of. course, section three of the 25th. Amendment is about a temporary. disability. I like to think of it as the. the colonos colonoscopy provision. because it's been used in a number of. cases of presidential colonoscopy where. a president goes under for several hours. um and. willingly, voluntarily, and freely sign. something saying the vice president will. have the powers of the president uh as.
long as I am under anesthesia and I'm. away for this period. And that's been. used multiple times. Okay. What. everybody's talking about is section. four of the 25th amendment. And what. this says is that the vice president and. a majority of the cabinet can determine. that the president is unable to. successfully discharge the powers and. duties of office and thereby transfer. the powers of the office to the vice. president. Now the president has the.
opportunity to uh challenge that and. oppose that in which case it goes to a. vote of the Congress and there needs to. be a twothirds vote in order to maintain. the transfer of power. Now here's the. wrinkle. Um the section four of the 25th. amendment says the vice president and. majority of the cabinet can initiate. this process or the vice president and. the majority of a body set up by.
Congress for these purposes can. determine that the president uh is. unable to discharge the powers and. duties of office. In 2017 and in 2020 in. the first Trump administration, I. introduced legislation to set up this. body. And my argument was it's not just. for Donald Trump. It's it's a body that. will be a standing continuing body in. perpetuity because it could happen to. any president. We have 535 members of.
Congress. We've only got one president. and a lot of things can happen to. someone. So we set up a body that. includes former people who served in the. executive branch of government, former. presidents, vice presidents, cabinet. members, and various medical people, physicians, psychologists, psychiatrists, neurologists. You can. check out that bill online and we may. reintroduce that bill um uh to.
accomplish the purpose of having a body. there in the event of a crisis. But. still the vice president is uh a. necessary and critical actor. You don't. get anywhere without the vice president. acting. But at least this board could. substitute for a cabinet that refuses to. deal with a crisis. And it could be any. kind of crisis. It could be a medical. crisis. It could be an accident. It. could be, you know, a psychological. breakdown. It could be a person goes. missing. I mean, who knows, right? But.
this board is set up for the purposes of. acting along with the vice president. >> Well, I think what's clear now is that. that kind of legislation wouldn't move. forward with, you know, with with the. the signature required being Trump's own. signature. And so I guess the question. that I have with in the absence of. legislation like that is isn't Trump's. cabinet set up in such a way that the. sole qualification for them being there. is their undying slavish devotion to.
Trump. And so, you know, in these calls. for the to invoke the 25th amendment, again, absent uh some type of working. group that's that's actually capable of. of delivering an objective um an. objective uh opinion on all of this, isn't it kind of a fool's errand to. engage in a process where we have to pin. our hopes on people like JD Vance and. Pete Hegsth and RFK Jr. who, you know, if nothing else, are only there because. they will be undyingly loyal to the guy.
Yeah, that is the paramount. qualification for service in the Trump. cabinet, which is why his cabinet. meetings are so embarrassing. It's just. people going around in Stalinist fashion. talking about how great the dear leader. is. Um, and so that's why I say this is. not a panacea for what hils us right. now. Um, people were desperate when. Trump was making these threats uh. yesterday. um hard to believe it was yesterday. It.
seems like a lifetime ago now, but uh he. was making these horrific threats and. people were angstridden and looking for. a way to deal with it. Similarly, impeachment, which is for treason, bribery, and other high crimes and. misdemeanors, is a process that has. traditionally taken a long time uh to. get through. and you need a majority. vote in the House and you need a. twothirds vote to convict in the Senate. Um, so that also is not an ideal.
response to the kind of emergency that. everybody thought we were in yesterday. And so to to to that end, I mean, look, you know better than anybody, having. having led the the Senate trial in. Trump's uh impeachment, how difficult it. is to get Republicans to vote against uh. to vote against Donald Trump. And this. is an even more obsequious Republican. party than we've had in the past because. even those people who were independently. minded, they've largely been.
excommunicated from from the Republican. party except for maybe Thomas Massie. Um. and so and. >> and they're working on excommunicating. him. >> Right. Right. And and they're and. they're they're leaning in hard on that. And so for people who look at this, and. this is I guess a broader question, but. people who look at the rhetoric that was. used by Donald Trump in threatening to. decimate an entire population to commit. genocide against 93 million people. overtly, he may have walked back from, you know, his his most um alarming uh.
threats, but like it's still the same. guy. Like even though he's not saying it. today, what he was saying, you know, 24. hours ago, he's still the same person. We all know what he's capable of because. the toothpaste is out of the tube. And. so what do you say to people who. recognize the danger of this person, but. don't see an avenue to do anything about. it and and and think that like our fate. is largely in the hands of someone who. is dangerous, reckless, and and frankly. pretty unhinged. >> Well, it's well put. I mean, I I see it.
the way you see it. And again, um, we. don't have a constitutional architecture. that's designed to deal with this in. emergency fashion. The reason people got. on the 25th amendment was because it was. the closest thing. And all really that. the Democrats can do is what we did do. during um the the pre-Trump impeachment. period after January 6, 2021. I. introduced a resolution calling on Vice.
President Pence to summon the cabinet to. invoke section 4, the 25th Amendment to. transfer power away. And we passed that. in the House of Representatives, a. non-binding resolution. But as soon as. we passed it, within minutes, Vice. President Pence issued a statement. saying that he would not uh call the. cabinet together for these purposes. and. this would only deepen the divisions in. the country following January 6th. Then. we proceeded to vote to impeach uh.
Donald Trump for the high crime and. misdemeanor of inciting violent. insurrection against the republic and. against the constitution. Um and we. moved in fairly record time uh to try to. get this done, but still it took many. weeks. And of course, although we had a. 57 to 43 vote in the Senate, um, which. sounds like a resounding victory, we. still fell 10 votes short of the. requisite 2/3 to convict. We were, you.
know, 10 votes down because Mitch. McConnell simply refused to do the right. thing. Although he said Donald Trump was. morally, ethically, practically guilty. of what the House managers had charged, still he felt that there was not. jurisdiction to try a former president. despite the fact that that contravene. two centuries of precedent. >> Yeah. Um, look, I I I would also note. for for folks looking for some solution. here is that we have and and I know that.
it might feel reductive to say or feel. like cold comfort right now, but we have. we have elections happening every week. in this country where Democrats are. overperforming. You know, in in just the. last 24 hours, Democrats have been able. um to win another seat, flip another. seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court um. uh uh widening that um that majority on. that court. and we have midterms coming. up and you know Republicans have to. contend with the albatross around their. necks. That is Donald Trump's unpopity. for all of this. So this is not just.
happening with no consequence. People. are seeing what's happening. Um they're. they're. >> Democrats picked up 20 points in. Marjorie Taylor Green's district. Yeah. >> And and she was probably part of that. I. don't know how she voted, but if I had. to guess. Uh but absolutely, you're. right. I mean that is going to be the. final check here. Of course, we have to. defend the integrity and the security of. the election. >> Yeah. >> Against someone who's proven himself to. be perfectly willing to try to overthrow. the electoral system in the electoral. process in uh 2021. Um we there are.
other internal checks along the way. I. mean the military um is uh has not just. the right but the duty to reject lawless. orders, unlawful orders of the. president. And uh I think despite. Secretary Hegsth's determination to. purge the military of people who are. still doing their jobs, there are still. people there who I think would stand by.
their oath to the Constitution. >> And I should note, Congressman, that. even Tucker Carlson said as much when he. came out. Tucker Carlson was part of. this, you know, band of right-wingers, including Margie Taylor Green, including. Joe Kent, um, who who, including Alex. Jones, who had come out and basically. said exactly that, that if the military. is getting this unlawful order, like for. example, to commit the war crime of. decimating an entire population, that. according to the UCMJ, you have to defy. an unlawful order. So, you know, that. that spans the entire political.
spectrum. >> Um, I want to switch gears here. And so. ju just to underscore the point you just. made um the first amendment itself the. right of the people to speak to organize. across party lines is also a check. against this president. Everybody needs. to be speaking out and organizing and. those of us in the Democratic party have. an obligation to be bringing these. people in to say we have a home for you. a party that is going to stand up for. constitutional democracy and freedom and.
the rule of law. >> Well said. Um I want to switch gears. here to Pam Bondi. Uh the DOJ had come. out and basically said that Pam Bondi. doesn't have to appear for her sworn. deposition on April 14th because that. deposition that subpoena was for the. office of the attorney general. It was. in her capacity as attorney general. Now. that she's a private citizen, it no. longer applies. Can you talk about the. legality of of kind of the the mental. gymnastics that the DOJ is doing by. trying to diffuse responsibility here?
>> I mean, that's just a question of fact, Brian. Does the subpoena subpoena the. attorney general of the United States, whoever that might be, or does it. subpoena and name Pam Bondi? If it names. Pam Bondi, she's got to go. Uh, it's. just very simple. If it said the to the. attorney general of the United States, uh, you know, that would fall presumably. then to the acting attorney general, Todd Blanch, but that's not what it. says. And, uh, are they offering Todd.
Blanch instead? Uh, I mean, there would. be a little more credibility to that. facious position if they were offering. to send him, but we know that they are. in full-blown cover up mode. They've. been doing everything in their power to. try to prevent enforcement of the. Epstein File Transparency Act. That. requires them to turn over all of the. files and they've only turned over half. of them. And of the half that they've. turned over, uh, there are tens of.
thousands of redacted pages. So, they. are out of compliance with the law. And. this just furthers their, uh, contempt. and their disobedience of the law. Do. you have confidence that Pam Bondi when. she does appear for that deposition, that's with the oversight committee, I. know that you're on judiciary, but but. just more broadly, that when she does. appear for this sworn deposition, with. the oversight committee, that she. doesn't sit down and the first words out. of her mouth when she's asked her first. question, which is, you know, can you. state your name for the record is, I'm.
I'm uh invoking uh executive privilege. and I'm not going to be answering any. questions. >> Well, first of all, I mean, executive. privilege would be off point. I mean, invoking the fifth amendment privilege. against self-inccrimination. might be more relevant for someone in. her position, that is someone who's. participated in uh a lawless cover up. and potentially a criminal conspiracy to. suppress the truth about what's. happened. But it's hard to see how she.
first of all, you can't assert executive. privilege on behalf of someone else. the. president would have to assert executive. privilege and it's in very narrow. circumstances when uh you know there is. the president receiving advice from. someone uh about uh a matter that comes. within the executive purview but that's. not relevant to Pam Bondi's uh testimony. to the judiciary committee about uh her.
compliance with a federal law that. compels tells her to turn over all this. information. >> Well, she if she tries to claim some. type of privilege, even if it's attorney. client privilege, I don't know if that. would actually work. Whether you're the. attorney general and your conversations. or your, you know, your your. relationship with the president of the. United States, I don't know if that's. necessarily attorney client, even though. the current attorney general does just. so happen to be the criminal defense. attorney of the current president of the. United States. But that notwithstanding,
um I I'm wondering if that's even still. valid considering the fact that there's. not actually any ongoing investigation. There's not any ongoing prosecution. All. that this is is we're just waiting for. the other 3 million documents in a. closed matter. The Epstein Files. Transparency Act, this is a closed. matter. We're waiting for these files to. be released. And so would any of this. any claim of privilege, attorney client, executive privilege, whatever it may be, would any of that apply given the fact. that there's not actually any ongoing. investigation or prosecution? First of.
all, the right person has to be invoking. the privilege. Um, only the president. can invoke executive privilege. You. can't invoke the privilege on behalf of. the president. Okay, so that's number. one. So the identity of the invoker is. wrong there. But secondly, you can only. invoke any privilege with respect to a. particular question. Like when you said. she sits down and she's asked her name. or what her job is or her position now, she can't invoke the fifth amendment. privilege uh on that because that you.
only can invoke a fifth amendment. privilege um if you might be. incriminating yourself. And so that's. not going to incriminate her. So it's. with respect to particular questions. Um, and I mean, if she invokes the fifth. amendment privilege against. self-inccrimination when she's asked. about why she's not turning over certain. documents, that in itself is extremely. damning. It's basically saying we were. involved in some kind of criminal. conspiracy to suppress particular kinds.
of information. But I I don't know that. she can get away with that for the vast. majority of questions they want to pose. to her. >> Last question on that, and that's. building off the exact point you made. If she does indeed invoke the fifth. amendment to avoid self-inccrimination, is that something that a future attorney. general um could look or a future. department of justice could look into um. as some you know as part of an. investigation in the future into the. fact that this law right now is being. violated and there is a cover up. happening in real time?
>> Well, it certainly could lead Congress. as well as a future attorney general to. wonder what the hell's going on. I mean, it's it's a extraordinary thing for an. attorney general of the United States to. invoke a fifth amendment privilege. Uh. we saw that when Attorney General Bondi. appeared before the House Judiciary. Committee, um she essentially refused to. answer almost every question posed to. her by a Democrat. Yeah. Um,
>> but she did get some good burns in. >> uh she they were completely irrelevant, immaterial, and uh nonresponsive as we. would say. And as a as a lawyer, she. should understand all of those things uh. as good as she thought the burns were. But um. you know if she is asked questions. uh directly under oath about what she. did, she can't start talking about uh. the Dow Jones industrial. She can't.
start talking about what's taking place. in people's uh districts. Um all of. those things are non-responsive. questions and she could be held in. contempt of Congress. Now, all of that. presumes the willingness, right, >> of Chairman Comr or a majority of. Democrats and Republicans together on. the committee to enforce the law. I. believe that Nancy Mace is very serious. about enforcing this subpoena. We'll see. if she can round up a couple other. Republicans who would do the same thing.
We have on the judiciary uh committee. Thomas Massie who's serious. But we've. got to go from having one Republican. who's willing to stand up and tell the. truth to having several Republicans. It. won't take many more because there are. margins are so uh razor thin in. Congress, but we need some more. Republicans to step up. >> Well, I appreciate your voice on this. issue and I appreciate you taking the. time today, Congressman, as always. Thank you so much. >> Thank you so much, Brian. >> I'm joined now by the co-host of POS. Save America, Tommy Vtor. Tommy, thanks. for joining.
>> Brian, good to see you. >> Good to see you. So, we have uh a little. bit of a meltdown by the president now, and it's aimed not toward any Democrats, but his own formerly most vocal. supporters. I'm going to read just a. little bit of it right now. I know why. Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace. Owens, and Alex Jones have all been. fighting me for years, especially by the. fact that they were especially by the. fact that. >> Yeah, it's incoherent. That's not on. you. That's the reading is really hard. because it's incoherent. especially by. the fact that they think it is wonderful. for Iran, the number one state sponsor. of terror, to have nuclear weapons. because they have one thing in common,
low IQs. They are stupid people. They. know it, their families know it, and. everybody else knows it, too. And he. goes in to do personal attacks on each. and every one of them, which actually. kind of carries some weight. But as we. see more of these um you know these. high-profile Trump supporters or or MAGA. supporters, right-wing podcasters speak. out against Trump. Does this feel like a. permanent break or just a speed bump. where, you know, of course everybody on. the right eventually comes home to daddy. because that's where the money is,
that's where the attention, that's where. the clicks are. I think in the media. space there's always room to come back, you know, because you're right, like. these the look these folks Tucker I. listened to Tucker Carlson's episode. where he like firmly broke from Trump. because of that Easter tweet where Trump. threatened genocide and then said like. all praise be to Allah and was like, "Open the straight, you. bastard.". >> Standard Easter stuff. >> Yeah, it's just standard Easter stuff. Most, you know, important Christian. holiday. The kind of thing you do, treat. the f word if you're the president. >> Right. Praise be to Allah. Tucker, I.
think, was sincerely furious, sincerely. offended, uh, is sincerely worried that. Trump is going to use a nuclear weapon. in Iran. Like, it was a 45minute. monologue, like unloading the clip. Um, I also suspect though that this is the. one of a series of of episodes Tucker. has done talking about his opposition to. war with Iran. And I, you know, he's. like us, like he's probably seeing. numbers on the back end. He knows where. his audience is going. He's someone. who's known to kind of skate to where. the puck is going, as Mr. Gretzky once. did, I guess, not said, did. Um, so.
yeah, I mean, I think like I think it's. a very substantial break. It's a. reshuffleling in the party. They know. Trump's a lame duck. They're trying to. figure out like what comes next. Um, that said, you know, a welltimed dinner. at Mara Lago or the White House could. probably do a lot of fixing. >> Yeah, 100%. I I I wonder though like. what kind of an impact this is going to. have on the party more broadly. I mean, do you think that this has this has no. negative impact because if Trump is a. lame duck anyway that this becomes what.
the new iteration of the GOP ultimately. is? >> I mean, I just think like going into the. midterms, it's going to be a turnout. election. And if Tucker Carlson is. telling his huge audience that Trump has. like it wasn't just that like he. disagreed with Trump on policy, it's. like he lied to you. He's acting in a. way that is satanic, you know? And and. at least for right now, I mean, regardless of what the GOP looks like. moving forward, at least for right now, these midterms are going to be a. referendum on Trump. Absolutely. >> And so, like, you can pretend that it's. going to be some, you know, like some. some new postTrump world, but so long as.
Trump is still in the White House, there. is no world in which these voters don't. don't send a message to Trump by virtue. of how they vote in November. >> And like normally when there's a war, in. the first month, there's a rally around. the flag effect. Like George W. Bush got. a 14-point bump on average. His father. got like a 30 point bump. Even Jimmy. Carter during the first month of the. Iran hostage crisis got like a 30 point. bump. Trump's approval rating has gone. down four points, right? Cuz like. Democrats, independents, like normal. people are like, "Why are we at war with. Iran?" When you add on top of that, like.
these kind of MAGA influencers, like. you'll see people say actually, you. know, if you look at polls of MAGA. voters, they're not moving away from. Trump. Well, of course they're not. Like. if you're a self-described MAGA voter, you are basically like a a Trump fan. But if they are hearing from close Trump. friends, close Trump allies, >> people who have cache in that world. Yeah. >> Yes. Uh like Alex Jones, his quote was, "How do we 25th amendment his ass?". >> Yeah. >> That was what he said on his show. Like. that is going to erode Trump's support.
with people he needs to turn out in a. midterm to to keep the house. Is there a. world where some of these people are. actually like e even if Tucker is going. skating to where the puck is going and. they're kind of seeing the writing on. the wall and they're making it easier, you know, giving themselves a a. permission structure for the G for the. GOP because these still these people are. still Republicans for the GOP to, you. know, have some postTrump iteration. where they are still anti-war and and. Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and. Candace Owens and Alex Jones can all.
come out and say we opposed Donald. Trump. It's it's you know he isn't. reflective of this right-wing movement. We are and so we can still you know. carry the mantle as the anti-war party. Is there a world where still they're. going to be shedding some supporters by. virtue of what's happening right now. that like even Tucker and Megan and. Candace and Alex's efforts to kind of. claw back this uh this moral high ground. that it's still going to that there's. going to be people in their audiences. that there's going to be people, you. know, in this country who voted for. Trump who are going to say, you know. what, like we've forget what forget what.
you guys are trying to convince me of. that that you that you're still. anti-war. I'm I'm not buying it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Look, I I think there are. going to be a lot of NAGA voters who. probably hear what Tucker and Megan and. Candace are saying and they're like, "Shut up." You know, like, "We like. Trump. We trust Trump. You guys told us. to trust Trump for like the last 10. years, so we're going to keep doing it.". Um, that that group will exist. I think. there'll be far more voters who are just. like pissed that gas prices are going. up. Yeah. >> That they they'll be pissed that they. feel lied to. I mean, that's what's so. powerful about these arguments is again,
it's not just like some esoteric foreign. policy thing. They're like, "You said. you wouldn't do this, then you did it. You lied to us, and that's bad." And. what what this really tells me, Brian, is I think in 2028 2028, there will be a. big actually isolationist lane in the. Republican uh presidential primary. And. JD Vance thinks he can still fill that. I don't think he can anymore. I think. it's a good chance Tucker Carlson is the. guy out there on the stump trying to. fill that. So, like stay tuned. >> No, I I I agree. And in fact, the way.
that you know JD Vance is already going. to be trying to do that is that he and. his team have leaked to Politico that. he's an Iran war skeptic just days ago. They leaked to the New York Times that. the lone skeptic in the room is JD. Vance. That doesn't happen unless he or. his team are trying to to get some play. on this idea. But Vance is trying to. have it both ways. He's trying to both. be the skeptic in the room while every. time he's confronted with this question, especially when he's confronted. alongside Trump, he's like, "I know what. you and the media are trying to do with. these gotchas. I'm supportive, you know,
100% of the way with Donald Trump and. and you're not going to you're not going. to, you know, cause some internal rift.". And so, again, he I mean, it's just. outright disdain for his own for his own. supporters to to to to basically try to. have it both ways and think that nobody. has enough sense to recognize what he's. trying to do. First of all, that New. York Times story is Maggie Haberman and. Jonathan Swan. It was an excerpt from. their book coming up. I think it's. called Regime Change. They got like they. got verbatim quotes from like situation.
room meetings with like eight or 10. people in them that happened a couple. months ago and the war is still ongoing. Like they had like verbatim quotes of. the chairman of the joint chiefs in a. like wildly sensitive meeting. It was. unbelievable. And you're right on the. Vance front, like Vance was like he ran. as a skeptic of wars, but then in this. piece it's like he knew Trump was for. it, so he tried to advocate for like a. limited military effort, but then he. figured out Trump really wanted to do. it. So then he told him to go allin and. like it's like JD Van, you've taken. every single position. And like everyone.
in that story, they're now trying to get. right for history and be like, "Oh, we. thought it was a bad idea. We thought. the Israelis were full of shit." But. it's like what did you do to stop it. when you had a chance? There were 10 of. you in the sit room making the call. Like if you didn't put your foot down. then or say something then or make the. case then like you. You you failed. And you know as far as as far as Vance. is concerned like this is actually part. for the course for him because he will. take any and every position that he. needs to take in order to advance. himself personally. I mean he called.
Trump America's Hitler and now he's the. vice president of America's Hitler. He. claim VP Hitler. Yeah. And so he he I. mean he built his brand off of this. idea, you know, that that for for uh. what was his book? Hillbilly Elegy and. like looking out for the little guy. And. now, you know, his major legislative. achievement right now is a tax cut that. overwhelmingly favors millionaires and. billionaires. I mean, just every. position that JD Vance could stake out, he's staked out. He has no no. long-standing principles other than his. own his own advancement in in politics.
And frankly, it's it's worked for him. thus far, but I think uh you know, he's. going to hit a wall when when we get to. the point where he tries to claim that. he's on the right side of history when. it comes to the Iran war. And and every. every tangible example is going to show. that that's complete. >> Yeah. At some point, he's going to run. for president in 2028 and he's going to. be on the stage with someone. It could. be Tucker Carlson. It could be like a. Rand Paul and they're going to say, "I. actually voted to oppose this war. I. fought this war before it happened. You. were in the room. You could have made a. difference and you failed.
So, let's talk about the specifics of. what we're seeing right now. Obviously, this is all pretty fast moving. We're. recording this on Thursday evening, but. as of right now, the only thing that. kind of um delayed the total. annihilation of Iran was was that there. was apparently uh a framework agreed to. between Trump and Iran. And we haven't. seen any specifics in the framework. other than what Iran has released, which. is like this 10-point plan. nothing from. the American side as far as I know, but.
the Iranian agreement says that Iran um. reserves the right to be able to to. continue enriching uranium uh to charge. tolls for ships that go through the. straight of Hormuz. Uh that that you. know uh that the US would pay for. repairs and. >> they want us to lift all sanctions. >> Lift all sanctions. So, you know, I want. to talk about two things. One, what can. you read into this based on the fact. that that agreement was released but we. have nothing from the American side? And. two, based on what I'm reading from that. agreement, it doesn't seem like the US.
actually got anything for all of the. lives, wounded, money, st global. standing that we've expended by virtue. of being there. >> Yeah. So, like just the the kind of like. tale of the tape here was Trump. threatened genocide. He threatened to. exterminate Iran's civilization by. blowing up all their power plants and. bridges. And then he got to his own. deadline. And it seems very clear to me. that he received a lot of push back and. did not want to do it and wor they. worked with the Pakistanis, the White. House to figure out this way to like.
kick the can down the field for two. weeks. Yeah. >> And as part of the statements that came. out about that delay, Trump said that uh. the the 10-point plan Iran put forward. was a a quote workable basis on which to. negotiate. And I would imagine that when. the Iranians heard that they were like, are you kidding me? Like this is the. greatest negotiating job we've ever. heard. It's a It's a gold mine. But. frankly, they could have put anything. out because Trump just needed an excuse. to take an off-ramp. >> Trump needed an excuse to not do the.
crazy he said he would do, right? Because it was literally genocidal. And. so, um, right now we're in this place. where there's going to be some talks on. Saturday. JD Vance apparently is going. to lead them. Steve Wickoff and. Jared Kushner will be there. >> Why Why wouldn't Jared Kushner be there? But now like they have 10 days from that. point or whatever to try to negotiate a. deal that includes I mean you read from. some of the Iranian wish list. It's like. end all hostilities. Uh guarantee that. US and Israel will not attack Iran. again. They want a ceasefire in all the. theaters of war including Lebanon where.
the Israelis are still pounding the hell. out of Hezbollah. They want all the. sanctions gone. They want control of the. straight Hermuz. Um they want uh money. for reconstruction. Like it is a. maximalist list. And so now the United. States, we're in a position where let's. think about the core goals of this war. Uh preventing Iran from getting a. nuclear weapon. We bombed their sights. again, but the 900 lb of highly enriched. uranium is still sitting in Iran and. they are like saying that not only will. they not give it up, but that they. reserve the right to keep enriching. Um. yes, we've sank a lot of their ships and.
take it out of their air force and. whatnot. But. >> well well if if they're able to charge. you know this toll of lose then we're. basically gonna give them give them a. vehicle with which they can pay to. rebuild all of this stuff. >> We're going to fund their Pentagon. budget but like by like three four five. exit you know like multiple times. And. then the other big issue was their um. support for proxy groups like Hezbollah. and Hamas. Again if they have this. windfall from putting a toll on ships in. the straight or humus they'll be able to. give a lot of money to Hezbollah. So.
when you like look at the tail of the. tape here and think like okay what did. we get for this? We are Iran is in a. stronger geopolitical position now than. they were beforehand because they have. pulled this lever on the straight of. Hormuz and they figured out like they. can control the global economy. So I. want I want you to put yourself in. Trump's shoes right now. What do you say. if you're the White House and you're. looking for some way to spin this as a. win? like how I mean I'm looking at this. as we have at least 13 service members.
who've died. We have 400 wounded. We. have oil prices surging. I think they're. at like I don't know if they're at like. $150 per barrel. Um that's in turn going. to raise gas prices here at home, but. it's also going to raise the cost of. everything cuz now it costs more to. transport those things. Uh we have we. have our global reputation is just in. tatters because we're led by a. genocidal lunatic. And and and so like I. don't I don't know how you can spin this. and and Iran now has has you know this.
with this plan in place would give them. the ability to rebuild their military. from from new and gain a lot of money. And so I don't know how you can spin. this as a win. What would Trump call a. win here? uh like a truly I mean there's. nothing he can do at this point that. will end up in like an actually better. place than we were in before the war. started. I don't think like maybe he can. cut a deal with Iran where they will. agree to ship out the highlyenriched. uranium in return for some huge. concession like getting rid of all.
sanctions on Iran. Maybe they will give. up this toll road um through the. straight of Hormuz idea for something. similar. But like again, it's a massive. concession. Like they will use they will. reap a huge windfall of money. They'll. be able to sell oil again on the global. markets and then they will be able to. rebuild their navy and their air force. and their ballistic missile program. >> And by the way, won't won't if there's a. toll that's implemented, won't those. costs be passed on to consumers? Because. now there's a brand new expense, a brand. new tax that's being imposed on every. single ship that passes through which.
will ultimately just raise the co just. be passed on to to those who need it. It's just a giant tax on the global. economy which I think everyone in the. world right now would be willing to pay. to like get past this acute crisis. because we're at a place where I think. like a dozen ships went through this. rate of hormuz on Thursday. Then the. average is usually 130. There's 400 some. odd uh ships in a backlog and that means. that oil and gas isn't getting through. It means fertilizer isn't getting. through. Farmers can't turn on their. tractors let alone plant crops. Like. there could be a global food crisis. So.
things are going to get dire real fast. Well, adding to the confusion here is on. True Social. I'm seeing another post. where Trump says, "There are reports. that Iran is charging fees to tankers. going through the Hormoo Strait. They. better not be, and if they are, they. better stop now." President Donald J. Trump. So, again, this you would think. that it would be a little bit outside. the the the realm of of reason for him. to complain about this when this is. already listed in the framework that. they publicly released and we have. nothing from our end to refute it. Th.
this is what. Jonathan Carl from ABC News tweeted uh. yesterday on April 8th that morning. This morning I asked President Trump if. he's okay with the Iranians charging a. toll for all ships that go through the. straight from he told me there may be a. joint US Iran venture to charge tolls. Quote, "We're thinking of doing it as a. joint venture. It's a way of securing. it. Also securing it from lots of other. people. It's a beautiful thing. Make up. your mind, buddy.". >> Yeah. And and also I'm sure that that'll. happen right around the same time we.
have our joint cyber security task force. with Russia. >> Yeah, that I remember that one as a deep. cut. It's going well. It's like look, I. mean, no one holds this guy. accountability accountable for anything. he says cuz he just flails around all. day long. But like when you look at the. priorities they laid out going into the. war and where we are now, it's a. catastrophe. Never mind the like. remember when he was going to pretend to. ride to the rescue of the Iranian. protesters. >> Yeah, >> that's not going to happen. There's a. pretty wide gulf between we are here to. make sure that we can free the Iranian. people from the from the yoke of the.
Islamic Republic to we going to bomb the. entire country and eradicate Iran from. the face of the earth. Like that's a. that's a that's a pretty big leap there. >> Yeah. And like look, Trump didn't take. that like genocidal step of bombing all. the civilian power plants. And like if. he had done that, right, like every. hospital doesn't have power, so everyone. like on a ventilator or an incubator is. just dead. But like they've bombed like. 30 schools. They've bombed all kinds of. civilian infrastructure. So like now. they're leaving the people with of Iran.
with a new supreme leader who's the son. of the old supreme leader but much more. hardline. And then the IRGC like the. military leadership in Iran has a much. firmer grip. So these people now live in. like a completely decimated country with. an even more hardline regime. Like we. this is the worst case situation for the. Iranian people. >> Last question here. We have seen how. Trump went from Venezuela, which was a. pretty easy regime change, to Iran, which was a pretty clear failure. Not. going great. Um, but he's he's been. pretty clear that he wants Cuba to be.
next. This question was asked to me by. Alex Wagner uh on her show just a couple. of days ago, and I want to get your. thoughts on this, too, because there are. two tracks he can take. On one hand, he. can see that, hey, maybe regime change. isn't such a good idea. it doesn't work. out so well. So maybe I'm just going to. like, you know, uh take uh take take the. L here and just not up again. Or. does he recognize, damn, my my ego got. real bruised on this Iran situation and. so now I need an easy win and Cuba is.
not going to be uh not going to be the. same situation as Iran. So let's let's. try, you know, to to end on top here. >> I am pretty nervous about um what's. going to happen in Cuba because he's at. Mara Lago all the time. He's surrounded. by a bunch of like, you know, kind of. like hardline Cuban Republicans. Marco. Rubio is his secretary of state, national security adviser, and like kind. of top adviser on foreign policy. Rubio's primary mission is regime change. in Cuba. Now, like how exactly that.
would manifest is not totally clear. Like are they just going to continue to. starve everyone on the island? Maybe. that's their path forward to regime. change and then some sort of negotiated. thing. or will they like decide to tell. the Delta Force guys to mount up again. and do some. >> commando operation? I mean, look, the. truth in the Venezuela thing is like I. think time will tell if if it was a good. outcome for the world, for the. Venezuelan people. Like Baduro is a. terrible guy. Obviously, it was an. extraordinary military operation, but it.
was this close to going really badly. because that lead helicopter pilot took. like four bullets in his leg. And if. that guy is killed and that helicopter. crashes, like this thing is remembered. very differently, right? It's like, so. Trump had been dancing through the. raindrops on these military operations. until Iran, there's no guarantee that. like, you know, the Cuban military won't. get off a lucky shot and kill a bunch of. service members and something goes. really wrong. So like, God help us all. if he thinks it's a good idea. >> Well, that seems like the right place to. leave off. God help us all. >> Hopeful. God help us all. Well, look, I.
think um it's especially important as. Trump tries to, you know, collect people. who are going to run cover for him as he. engages in this genocidal lunacy, uh to. keep elevating the voices of of uh folks. who are going to actually do real work. and and let you know what's going on. So, highly recommend if you're not yet. subscribed to Pave America, click the. link right here on the screen and also. in the post description, subscribe to. Potsafe America. Completely free, but a. great way to support their work and make. sure these guys get in the in the uh in. the uh algorithm even. Damn right. Algo.
time. >> Algo time. I'm joined now by candidate. for the US Senate in Alaska, Mary Pelto. Thanks so much for joining me. >> Hi Brian. Thanks for having us. >> So right now there is new polling that's. out that shows you leading your. Republican opponent Dan Sullivan by. about five points. Um for those people. in, you know, who are watching Alaska. who feel like Alaska is perpetually out. of reach, what is your response in light. of this new polling? Well, Alaska is actually 12% Democrats,
25% Republican, and over 60%. independent, nonpartisan, undeclared. And so that just goes to show you right. there, the majority of Alaskans prefer. kind of a nonpartisan conversation. We. have unique Alaska challenges. We are. constantly looking and collaborating for. Alaska solutions. And I think that if. we're we just keep things plain spoken. and common sense, you can reach anybody.
>> So I want to talk about what you have. been saying on the campaign trail to the. voters of Alaska. Um can you speak a. little bit about your your plan to fix. the rig system in DC? And I asked this. especially in light of the fact that, you know, a lot of fixing the system in. DC or draining the swamp was in large. part Donald Trump and Republicans. platform in 2024. And of course, now. we're seeing a situation where Americans. are paying more for everything thanks to. a trade war. Gas is more money thanks to.
to the war in Iran, which by the way is. an a is a war that Trump promised he. would never engage in. And so we've. we've seen this song and dance before. And so how does that um can you talk a. little bit about what you're offering. and how that kind of informs uh what the. voters are expecting? >> Yeah, you know, I came up in a system in. state politics in the legislature in the. late 90s and the 2000s. It was a. different time. It was um there wasn't.
social media. Things weren't nearly as. partisan. There people had a much more. collaborative outlook at the state. legislative level and in Congress. And. so I took a 14-year hiatus. And so. coming back has been just a real shock. And especially seeing the degree to. which partisanship. has um clobbered up the system to such a. degree. We have really a do nothing. Congress. We haven't the US Congress. hasn't passed a budget since I think.
1998. It's been continuing resolutions. year after year. And now it's even going. slower than that where there's we're. chunking it out. There's tanches of the. budget that we're doing in sections. >> Yeah. >> Or whole sections that aren't getting. funded at all. This really goes to. illustrate what a dysfunctional system. we're currently in. And this is not some. kind of partisan jargon. I think. everyone to a person across Alaska is. feeling that disconnect between our.
public servants and our lives. We can. all feel directly even though it's all. you know happening in Washington DC. clear across the continent we can feel. the degree to which the shift has been. focused to the agendas of the. millionaires and billionaires and not. the working households. So, I just went. out. I went to six villages on the. Bearing Sea Coast in the lower Yukon. And the degree of hardship is just very.
palpable when people are paying $10 a. gallon for gas, $10 a gallon for stove. oil, and they're having to decide. whether to buy $5 worth of diesel to. heat their home, or a case of uh Top. Ramen or cup of noodles to feed their. family. Things are very stark. And I. just think that this feeling of being. forgotten and left behind is just now a. universal feeling.
Are you know I'm sure that in a state. like Alaska, which is which is. historically uh a Republican state, how. have those conversations gone with. people for whom their partisan. affiliation, their political affiliation. is is kind of intertwined with their. identity? I'm sure there's people there, you know, whose whose grandparents voted. Republican and whose parents voted. Republican and they've voted Republican. and that's a a point of pride and it's. probably not so easy to just be like, "Oh, yeah. Voted for Republican my whole. life. My family's longtime Republicans.
I'm just going to vote for a Democrat.". Obviously, times are different now, but. what have those conversations been like. for people who are recognizing, you. know, the what Republican leadership has. has wrought? Well, I think, you know, there's a lot. of soulsearching going on among old-time. Republicans, people whose families have. been Republicans for generations, and. they look to people like Abraham Lincoln. or Teddy Roosevelt as standard bearsers. or either of the George Bushes even at.
this point. And then to where we are. now, I think um it's it it can be very. depressing. And and I do have to say. that the for those people who have grown. up democratic year, you know, generation. after generation and have um you know, role models like JFK or FDR um you know, these are tough times for for Democrats.
as well. And and the the conversations. that I like to think about are with the. over 60% of Alaskans that proudly say, "I'm an undeclared. I'm nonpartisan. I. vote for the person I think is a good. person. I vote for the person who I feel. has compassion and understands what. we're going through and is going to work. really hard on our behalf." That's those. are the people that I'm um really. encouraged by. I want to talk a little. bit about about um what specifically you.
would like to see in the Senate. Can you. talk a little bit about your your. priorities uh issues that you'll be able. to champion if you're elected? >> Well, you know, I'm always real careful. to make sure that I'm not overpromising. and I am very focused on November 3rd. I'm obsessed with election day and I. want to make sure that people understand. that this is not a foregone conclusion. We're still 210 days out from the. election. Um things can change overnight.
and we just have to make sure that we're. disciplined and and um moving forward. every day. But I also um want to. illustrate that I've had many, you know, two decades of of public service under. my belt. And I have always worked for. Alaskan families and Alaskan working. families and um you know people who are. living hand-to-mouth and always thinking. of ways we can uh diversify our economy, boost our economy, get more funds to.
families that are struggling and and. just and and this is I'm not talking. about um one socioeconomic bracket. I. feel like most of us are in that feeling. like we're struggling and and. financially we're losing ground every. month. Um but you know I think when I. talk about anti-corruption agenda. I am very serious when I say I find it. unbelievable that these things aren't.
illegal as it is. things like being u. members being on corporate boards, things like um being allowed to do stock. trading. Even after sitting through confidential. briefings, having that ability to do um. stock trades, it it it's just really. surprising that there is such a um. ambivalence or just an you know, an okay. feeling about the the status quo. I I I.
think that a lot of folks don't know how. much you can personally gain by being um. a member. And I think it's worth noting. that the incumbent has quadrupled his. personal wealth in the 12 years that. he's been there. His agenda really seems. to be for millionaires and billionaires. and not the working people of Alaska. So, I want to point out that in terms of. airing commercials and ads in in your.
state, it obviously is much different. from a market like um like New York or. California, you know, Los Angeles, whatever it may be. And so can you talk. a little bit about for people who are. considering where to to put their. dollars if they're contributing to. campaigns? What it would mean to, you. know, to send 10 or 20 bucks to your. campaign in Alaska versus another. campaign in a major metropolitan market. like, you know, Manhattan or or or Los. Angeles or or, you know, Dallas or. whatever it may be.
So Alaska has one of the least expense I. think the least expensive media market. in the country but we really make up for. that in terms of travel costs and as. Alaskans we are we were very spoiled by. our um federal delegation in the past. We really expect candidates we expect. our representatives to to come to our. villages to come and come to our towns. and talk to us face to face and um that. is extremely expensive. When I was um in. Congress and running for reelection, I.
got a phone call from DC saying, "Why is. it 800 times more expensive to travel in. your district than a a standard house. district?" And it's just because we're. so large and um so spread out. If we. were our own country, we'd be the 18th. largest country in the world. We're. really big. At low tide, you could put. three three Texases within Alaska. We. have more coastline than all of the. lower 48 combined. We are just a vast um.
different state. Um really there are. like six states within our state. And. people really do have an expectation of. face-toface communication. And I find. that face toface communication is the. best. There's nothing that can replace. that, you know. And I've really enjoyed. going out and listening to people. People have a lot they want to get off. their chest. people have a lot that they. are juggling and they want to talk about. it with someone. They want to share. their ideas for solutions. So, um and.
and that takes a lot of money. It takes. uh a lot of money and time um to get. even a yard sign out to the hinterlands. to a small village. It's about $25 per. yard sign. And if you're living in a. small village, that is the only way that. you participate in a statewide campaign. like this is putting up a yard sign in. front of your house. So, it's really. important that we have yard signs and. are shipping them out. >> I want to I want to ask one more. question before we before we wrap. And. that is, could you give an example of a.
moment that stuck with you from the. campaign trail that kind of, you know, serves as a as a pretty um accurate. microcosm for for what your campaign. represents? Has there been a moment or. or an anecdote uh or somebody that. you've met that that's really um kind of. put the whole thing into perspective. here? Well, I I went to a village on the lower. Yukon and you know, it's really hard for. people who rely on salmon, not just for. their economic household, you know, not.
just um having that um kind of. foundational food source and that. nutrient source, but really the ability. to teach your kids how to be Alaskan, how to be native. Um you can't really do. that with words or books. Yeah, >> it really is taught through hunting and. fishing and sharing all the values that. come with that. Learning how to read the. weather, respecting your catch, sharing. your harvest, um firearm safety, gear.
safety, um all of those things. When. we're not able to fish, when a community. has been told for seven summers they're. not allowed to fish, it's just soul. crushing. It it's both um very. concerning on an economic everyday. level, but it's also really concerning. on, you know, in terms of wellness, in. terms of um how, you know, for so many. people across Alaska, getting outdoors. and participating in hunting and fishing.
is the bulk of their wellness plan. And. to be able to then be told, you know, this is not something that you are. legally allowed to do, and if you do it, your gear will be confiscated. your. firearm will be confiscated. That that. is a very tough conversation to have and. especially if you're in a community. where you're not talking to people in. charge, people in charge aren't finding. their way to your community to have. these tough conversations. So, um you. know, and and the fact that they're. paying $10 a gallon for gas and heating.
fuel and they know it's going to go up. when that first barge gets in after. breakup after after the ice gets out of. the river. So, we, you know, there's. just so much concern and um we are ready. for some good news and we're ready for. people to start working together to help. us dig our way out of these concerns. >> All right. Well, that seems like the. perfect place to leave off. So, I'm. going to leave it there. Again, for. those who are watching right now, you. can go to mpelola.com if you're looking. to contribute. It makes a big.
difference. I'm going to put that link. right here on the screen and also in the. post description of this video. Um, if. you're listening on the podcast, I'm. going to put it in the show notes. Mary, I I could not thank you enough for. taking the time today. Um, and uh, best. of luck in the campaign trail. >> Thank you, Brian. Appreciate it. >> To listen to the audio version of this. episode, click the link right here on. the screen. And please make sure to. subscribe. And of course, to see more. video content, that subscribe button's. on the screen as well.
