BREAKING: Epstein files update ROCKS Pam Bondi
I'm joined now by Congressman Ro Khanna. Congressman, thanks for joining me. Great to be back on. So, we have some. new news regarding the Epstein files, and that is that in the UK, the. Metropolitan Police are now seeking. information from the US Department of. Justice to assist in their investigation. of formerly Prince Andrew. So, can you. give your reaction to the fact that. other governments are now seeking the. same files that the US government. refuses to release because they're. actually willing deigning to hold. criminals to account?
Isn't it ironic, Brian, two American. Congress people, um Thomas Massie and. me, forced the release of the files? And. you would think then that the American. government would lead the investigation. and call for prosecutions. But, it's. actually other governments in other. countries that are leading the calls for. investigation and are demanding the full. files, including the 50% that Pam Bondi. has not released. This shows that law. enforcement in Britain believes that the. unreleased files has something to do.
with the former Prince Andrew's guilt or. Lord Mandelson's guilt. And of course, Bondi should comply with that request, but she should also comply with the law. here in the United States and release. these files. And she should actually. start to investigate some of these. people, especially people like Les. Wexner and Leon Black, who have. incredibly outrageous allegations. against them. Can you give an update in terms of.
another piece of news that we have from. the Epstein files, which is the fact. that the House Oversight Committee has. dumped the Epstein accountant and. lawyers' deposition videos? And of course, most of the media is. distracted by what's going on in Iran to. talk about it, but any update as far as. those depositions are concerned? Well, here is what is most concerning. about those videos, and people can see. them for themsel- for themselves. You. had Khan answer one of my questions. saying, yes, the estate paid a.
settlement to the woman who accused. Donald Trump of rape when she was 13, that Epstein paid that settlement. Then. 4-5 hours later, he reverses himself. No, no, no, no, no, I didn't mean that. I misspoke. Then the next day, he. reverses his reversal and he says, now. we can't confirm or deny whether we did. pay this woman who accused Donald Trump. of raping her when she was 13. If you. look at his body language, you can tell. he is so afraid when the word Trump.
comes up. He can just be sitting there. calculating, please don't say anything. that's going to get me on the wrong side. of Donald Trump. And. it's he gave totally inconsistent. testimony. It also shows that there may. have been an actual settlement with this. woman who accused Trump of raping her. Is there a way for the committee to haul. Epstein's accountant, Richard Kahn, to. answer some questions, given the fact. that, you know, this deposition actually. raised more questions than it did answer.
them? Well, he he came in and he. he was deposed. But you're saying, can. we pursue it further? I guess we could, but the real issue is that he may have. perjured himself. He needs to be investigated by the. Department of Justice. Look, Congress. can only do so much. We can investigate, we can get the reports out, we can have. accountability, but in terms of. investigation and prosecution and law. enforcement, we have a whole Justice. Department for that, and that's what. really needs to be doing the work. And.
if they're not going to do it, the next. administration must do it. Is there any. update here in terms of, you know, we. are more than 3 months behind in terms. of when the full Epstein files were. supposed to be released? So far, we only. have 3 million documents out of the 6. million that have been released. Any. update in terms of why Pam Bondi hasn't. deigned to allow us to see the rest of. those documents? No, and we'll know more on April 14th. when she's going to have a deposition, when she's going to have a lawyers ask. her detailed questions, when she can't.
just respond with a flip. answer, and she's going to actually have to. answer these questions under oath. But, there's no excuse. I mean, they claim. because we had a closed door briefing. and I asked some of these questions, they claim that oh, they were they're. just protecting survivors. Really? 3. million documents all redacted just to. protect survivors when survivors are. telling us they want those documents. released. Do you are you confident that she will. show up for the April 14th. deposition given the fact that she.
offered herself up for an off-the-record. briefing with members of Congress just. just a week or two ago and and that you. know, there was some concern that her. doing that would be, you know, her way. of saying, "Well, look, I've I've. already been I've already been. transparent and here I'm here for an. off-the-record briefing and so now. there's no need for me to show up under. oath and do a deposition for for the. Oversight Committee.". I do believe she will show up. The. reason I believe she she will show up is.
there there are Republicans on the. committee. who will not tolerate her avoiding it, but it's not 100%. She refused to give. that 100% confirmation to me or Robert. Garcia when asked about it. So, we have. to be vigilant. I just think it would be. total political malpractice for her not. to show up and Comer himself has said. that she must show up. Why? Because he. sees the votes in the committee. I mean, there are Republicans who would be. outraged. Right. Congressman, to what. extent do you think that what we're.
seeing happen in Iran right now, even if. not the principal reason, could have. some. some some tertiary benefit to Trump in. that it's it serves as a distraction. from the Epstein files which were. otherwise enveloping the news cycle for. months leading up to this point. Well, Google searches are dramatically. down when it comes to Epstein since the. war started. Look, Trump promised not to. get us into a war in the Middle East and.
to release the Epstein files and hold. them accountable. Instead, he has gotten. us into a war in the Middle East and. he's covered up for the Epstein files. It's been a total betrayal of his. voters. But, one of the things it has. done is taken that off the front page. and. he is uh no longer having to answer both. for his own appearance in those files, for the his own allegations that are. against him, or for the cover-up of the.
Justice Department. You know, we heard. as far as the as far as the situation. unfolding in our airports, we've heard. Donald Trump just a few days ago say, "You know what? I was I was brought a. deal by these Republicans and Democrats. to fund the entirety of DHS except for. ICE. I don't want it because, you know, I I want I want the fighting to continue. so that we can try and get the Save. America Act passed." He was pretty. forthright in saying that. We had. Senator Kennedy come out and said and. say the same thing that a deal was. brought to Trump to fund TSA and that.
Trump denied it. Punchbowl News reported. the same thing that John Thune. you know, echoed this same sentiment. And now today Donald Trump has come out. and said that in fact the long lines and. the situations unfolding at the airports. are the Democrats' fault. And so, what. do you attribute the flip-flop to where. Trump was initially perfectly content to. take all the blame for what was. happening with regard to TSA and the. airports and then suddenly today did a. total about-face where he decided that, "You know what? It's not my fault.
anymore. Now it's the fault of the. Democrats.". Well, he's got a real problem and he. knows that. Gas is up over a dollar a. gallon. California almost $7. He's got a problem in terms of the. airline costs if you have to buy an. airline ticket going up because jet fuel. has skyrocketed. Groceries are up because half the oil we. get goes into food products and consumer. products. There's a really an energy. crisis in America, the kind we haven't. seen since 1973 and 1979. And then he's.
got a long lines for anyone who's flown. and unfortunately my job requires a lot. of flying, so I fly all the time. But. let me tell you, the lines are long at. these airports. And people are upset and he's the. president of the United States and he's. caused a lot of this. This was not some. like COVID, something that may have been. unavoidable. He caused it by going into. Iran and he caused it by rejecting. Democratic offer after offer to fund.
TSA. And why did he reject the Democratic. offer to fund TSA? Because he wants. married women, 190 million American. women to show their birth certificates. and their marriage certificates before. they can vote. It is absolutely absurd. and people are seeing through it. In terms of the Republicans feeling the. pressure from Trump, do you think that. they're going to relent? He's either. trying to get, you know, exacerbate this. pain so that Democrats can come to the. table and relinquish their conditions to. fund ICE, which are pretty reasonable,
not wearing masks, identifying. themselves, making sure that any. warrants are signed by a judge, not. having ICE be present at the polls come. midterms. All of those pretty reasonable. stuff. Um but he's clearly trying to to. to exacerbate these problems to either. pressure Democrats into relenting, which. isn't looking like it's going to happen, or pressuring Republicans into nuking. the filibuster to shoehorn this thing. through. Do you think that the. Republicans are going to to kind of. you know, cater to him and and and nuke.
the filibuster in so that he can get the. Save America Act passed? No, maybe they would have. about a year ago. He's weak. I mean he's at 40% approval. under 40%. The laws of political gravity. even apply to him and there are more. Republicans who are saying I don't want. to go down with the ship. I'm not going. to lose my seat in the the the midterms. The reality is that he's going to. quickly realize that he's on. an increasing island and I do think the.
Democrats are going to get our way. I. mean I'm for tearing down the entire ICE. agency given how abusive it is, but the. reforms that we've put forth are such. common sense. It's basically saying. treat an ICE officer like a cop, same. standards. I mean it's not even reform, it's just a uphold the standards you. have for any other law enforcement. officer. Right. Well, you know, this. I I presume that some of the pressure is. coming from the fact that even as Trump. continues to engage in all of this stuff. pretending like political gravity.
doesn't exist for him, we're seeing the. American people speak loud and clear at. the ballot boxes and all of these. special elections. In fact, just. yesterday. the district the legislative district. that represents Mar-a-Lago was flipped. and now it's under Democratic control. and that's a 13-point swing from what it. was in in 20 2024. So, can I have your. reaction to some of these more recent. election wins that we're seeing right. now happen happen in these special. elections or off-year elections where. where there's you know, 11, 13, 15,
20-point swings to the left. There's a new coalition forming in. American politics. They're opposed to. this war in the Middle East that is. driving up costs and making life more. expensive. They're. opposed to elite impunity. They want the. Epstein class held accountable, people. who think they the law doesn't apply to. them and that they get to write the. laws. They are opposed to. Trump's policy of giving tax breaks to.
billionaires and they want something. done to lower their. utility prices, to lower their grocery. prices. And they're voting in that way, and. they're appalled by ICE terrorizing. American citizens. Yesterday I sat. through a hearing where an American. citizen, 16-year-old, said he was held. in a chokehold by ICE agents. While a. mom said that she was threatened to have. her head blown off, an American citizen. So, people are finally reacting to this, and it's an anti-Trump.
sentiment in the American public, because our country, deep down, is. incredibly good and decent and kind. And. yes, we need an affirmative agenda. Don't get me wrong, but let me tell you. something. The anti-Trump sentiment is. very strong in. in in making sure that we will win the. midterms. I I also want to be clear not to just. pin the blame entirely on Trump. Clearly, he's driving the ship, but. Republicans could serve as a check on.
him if they wanted to. They run a. coequal branch of government. They They. run every coequal branch of government, and yet in the House, in the Senate, they have just decided to contract every. ounce of their power to him. Is there. any acknowledgement by your Republican. colleagues in that conference. about the extent to which he is serving. as an anchor around their necks, and. that they are voluntarily ushering in. their own demise by by constantly. deferring to him 100% by constantly. kowtowing to him, regardless of how.
unpopular their behavior is? We discussed this before, Brian, that. I do believe the Epstein Transparency. Act was a historic break from Trump. It. was the first time the Republicans said, "You know what? I'm not just getting on. his train that is going into a place. that is going to lead to loss. We're. going to jump off.". And since then, you do have Republicans. challenging him, hundreds of discharge. petitions. Now, it's not as much as we. would like, but there are Republicans.
upset about ground troops in Iran and. said that that's a red line. There are. Republicans upset about the gas prices. There are Republicans upset that they're. still not being a transparent about. Epstein. There are Republicans upset in. knowing that ICE has gone too far and. it's hurting them with Latino voters and. Asian American voters. So, they see that. they're headed for defeat. And the. question for them is just can they. convince Trump to to write the ship at. all or not? Yeah, well, I think he's. made it abundantly clear that he wants.
to continue to exacerbate this pain that. Americans are feeling because it will. help him. promote his own personal political. agenda, which is, you know, as as he. himself has said, legislation that will. help Republicans win every election for. the next 50 years, which is just. you know, a bunch of window dressing for. a massive voter suppression bill. With that said, Congressman, as always, I appreciate the work you're doing and. thanks so much for the time today. Thank you, Brian.
