BOMBSHELL: Hidden Epstein files IMPLICATE TRUMP

I'm joined now by Congressman Ro Khanna. Congressman, thanks for joining me. again. >> Always a pleasure. So, Congressman, we. have some major news as it relates to. the Epstein files. Can you speak about. some missing files that implicate Trump. that have taken over the news cycle? This is the most disturbing. development since Thomas Massie and I. started the pursuit of the Epstein files. issue. And here's what's happened. There. is a woman who has accused Donald Trump. of sexually abusing her when she was a. minor child. There are four times that.

the FBI interviewed her. Only one of. those interviews has been publicly. released. Now, you know that if someone. is being interviewed four times by the. FBI, the FBI obviously took it. seriously. The sex trafficking unit. there took it seriously. The F-3 of. those interviews are missing. And Rogers. Schallenberger and the and NPR. journalist discovered this because there. was a document that Massie and I forced. release that said that all four of those.

interview memoranda were produced to. Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell, during. discovery, but they are not public. And. so, the question is why the cover-up? Why what's in those three FBI. interviews? What did this. woman allegedly say about Donald Trump? And why do we not have those documents? Is there going to be some way to recover. those documents? Well, first of all, they're in clear. violation of the law. So, public. pressure is the first thing. Obviously,

people say, "Well, is it really going to. work?" It's worked in the past. I mean, we've forced a half of the release of. the files because of public pressure. But, if not the courts, I mean, you. can't just blatantly violate the law. There are people who could sue to make. sure that this these files actually are. released. The question is have they been. tampered with? Have they been blacked. out? Have they been damaged? But, there. are legal ways of getting the documents. And these documents exist in multiple. places if they produced them to Maxwell, so they've got to be careful with. tampering.

And what are next steps in terms of of. what you can do on your end to get these. documents to the forefront? We are looking at possibly passing. Epstein Transparency Act 2.0. I would. join with Nancy Mace and others saying, "Can we get the forced release of the. not just these three documents, but the. survivor statements to the FBI in. general?" CNN did a analysis and they. found that there are at least 90 or so. statements that the survivors made to.

the FBI that are that are missing. And. those are the most. powerful things. That's where the. survivors are naming who are the men who. engaged in abuse or rape. And so, you. know, but to have a case where you have. three documents missing in the. allegations against the President of the. United States, this is an enormous scandal. Well, if the DOJ was willing to flout. the law, because that's what they're. doing by withholding these documents, what's to stop them from doing the exact.

same thing if the Epstein Files. Transparency Act 2.0 is passed? Well, they're claiming privilege and. they're claiming that there's ongoing. investigations. I mean, they could do. the same exact thing, but it would be. much more directed the Epstein 2.0 bill. saying we want specifically these. 302 documents. But my sense is that the. most likely outcome is a legal outcome. It is. us going to the Southern District of New. York, either the survivors or Marci. Hamilton or someone filing a lawsuit to.

require these documents to be produced. And any watchdog group could do could do. it as well. Just file a lawsuit in the. Southern District of New York to force. compliance with the law. And then if we. take back the Congress, of course we can. subpoena. And you say, "Well, they won't comply. with the subpoena." That's true. But, you know, we can try. The final. point is there may be people at the FBI. and at the DOJ. who. recognize what happened is wrong and. can become whistleblowers. In terms of.

bringing this in front of a judge, instead of going on these piecemeal, you. know, efforts to in front of a judge to. get individual pieces of paper released, what about what about resuscitating your. effort along with Thomas Massie to get a. special master to oversee all of this so. that it's not like, "Okay, let's let's. try to get, you know, a few 302s here, a. few witness testimonies here." Like this. person having somebody like that in. place would would would negate the need. for all of these subsequent court cases. where you know you're going to butt up.

against Pam Bondi. I wholly agree and that's why Massie and. I proposed this in the first place and I. think our idea is looking now to be more. thoughtful and wise. I mean, what we. were saying is. don't have this determination made by. Bondi, don't have it made by the court. of public opinion on Twitter or the. internet. Have a special master look at. the documents. And imagine if a special. master had done these documents and. said, "These redactions are legitimate, these aren't. Here's what we're. releasing." You would have had so much. more public trust for the whole process. You wouldn't have had the survivor's.

compromise. And so, that is the ideal solution. But we're. looking at something that is. a huge urgent issue and that is. did the Department of Justice. selectively refuse to release testimony. because the allegations were against the. President of the United States. I mean, that is an enormous cover-up if true and. if it's not true, then they should just. release it or explain why they haven't. released it. Right. I want to talk about. Hillary Clinton's private deposition.

Can I have your reaction to the fact. that the first thing that happened in. this deposition that Republicans, you. know, you have a lot of Republicans who. claim to take this seriously and yet the. first thing they did was create a. spectacle by having Lauren Boebert leak. a photo to Benny Johnson so they could. tweet it out and get the optics that. they were so desperate for. How can they. both claim that they're taking this. whole whole thing seriously, while at. the same time turning it into a circus? Well, Ryan, you know how much I've been. passionate about the Epstein transmittal.

act, which Ben and I led. I'm a senior. member of the Oversight Committee. I. didn't show up today because I thought. it was outrageous that Hillary Clinton. was being deposed. She has nothing to do. with any of this. And it was a total. witch hunt. I am showing up tomorrow. with President Clinton because I do. believe that President Clinton has to. answer for. what he knew and and what his. relationship was with Epstein. But to. drag Hillary Clinton into this was. totally political. You had the leak. You. had people asking questions totally. unrelated to Epstein. And I think she.

conducted herself with. dignity. And you know, she set a clear. precedent now that is going to be very. hard for Donald Trump and Lutnick and. others to avoid answering questions. And. so, you know, they wasted. their time in a circus. The American. people see through it, but what they're. going to ask themselves is well, where. why are Lutnick and Trump and Bondi not. answering questions? Yeah, and I think that's the the perfect. point here. Was there some recognition. by these people that now that they've.

established this precedent where former. presidents and former presidents' family. members can be hauled in front of. Congress to answer questions about. Jeffrey Epstein? Do they recognize that. that will also apply to the one guy. who's at the top of this cover-up? Who. who. >> One day, by the way, will be a former. president. >> Oh, Trump does. That's why he was. saying, "Oh, I'm not so sure it's a good. idea to go after the Clintons." Look, there were there was the Trump rule, which was that. he refused to comply with the subpoena. to the January 6th Committee. That was. the precedent. Now, Bill Clinton and.

Hillary Clinton have set a new. precedent, and that is that former. presidents and families testify. And you. can be rest assured that once we are in. the majority in Congress, one of the. first subpoenas is going to be to Donald. Trump. What about the the rest of his team, as. you were mentioning? There are a number. of people in his administration. Um Howard Lutnick, there was a photo. released and I'm going to put that on. the screen of him on Jeffrey Epstein's. Island. That was obviously uh hidden. until just now. There's also Kevin Warsh. who's Trump's pick for uh for the Fed. chair. Elon Musk is in the file. I mean,

there are so many people within Trump's. orbit who have been wrapped up in this. thing. Is there any reason, at least. among your Republican colleagues, why. these people aren't also being hauled up. to answer questions? If Hillary Clinton. who had nothing to do with Jeffrey. Epstein is being hauled in front of the. the oversight committee to testify, is. there any reason why Howard Lutnick who. was smiling in pictures with the guy. wouldn't also be called in to testify? >> We're being governed by the Epstein. class. It's absurd. All over the world. you're seeing prosecutions and. resignations. Just today, the World.

Economic Forum CEO resigned. You've had. a prince former Prince Andrew prosecuted. investigated. The Lord Mandelson uh. arrested. You've had the former. Norwegian Prime Minister arrested. And. Lutnick who's all over the files, who. lied about his relationship with. Epstein, who had alleged business. dealings with Epstein is still sitting. there as America's ambassador to the. world for business. Uh he needs to. resign. He needs to be hauled in front. of Congress. And every person in a. senior position who's uh had ties and.

allegations to Epstein in the Trump. administration needs to come before our. committee and offer an explanation uh. and uh and explain to the American. public what they were doing in their. judgment. You know, that's what we need. to be worried about with the people. currently ruling in this country, not. someone who was in in office or even a. first lady 30 years ago. Is there any Is. there any interest by your Republican. colleagues who obviously hold the. subpoena power in the majority and not. in the minority? Is there any interest.

by your Republican colleagues to bring. some of these people forward? Or is it. just that, you know, as long as you have. proximity to Trump, you've got a a magic. force-field around you. Some of them, Nancy Mace and others, have said that they would support. something. We're going to file for a. subpoena and try to force the issue, but. the the reality is they may say that. publicly, but when it comes to the vote. of subpoenaing, they're very, very. hesitant to do anything that's going to. offend Donald Trump, but they're losing. credibility not just Brian, we've. discussed this, not just with. independents and Democrats. They're. losing Republican Republicans. They're.

losing MAGA voters. The most unpopular. people in the Trump administration right. now are Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and. Lutnick because they see them part of. the swamp that Donald Trump said he. would drain. In terms of next steps now, what what is. what is next for you to get some more. accountability? And you have been, you. know, dogged in your pursuit of this. So, what what do you anticipate is going. to be the next step? Well, we are. going to call for select committee to to. have these Epstein hearings or at least. have oversight, have Epstein hearings.

We are going to continue to pursue legal. options with the Southern District of. New York to get these files. We're going. to going to continue to be very vocal. about accountability for Lutnick and. others in the administration and other. rich and powerful men who have emails. saying they visited the ranch or the. island. And by the way, this story is. not going away because every day we see. some new resignation, new revelation. People are going through these files and. finding more and more and more. So, Nancy and I will continue to call for. accountability. And then there are more.

legislative options as well. But what. we've seen is that when we keep pushing, when we keep fighting, more things get. released. And finally, Congressman, why do you. think it is that, you know, amid all of. this jingoism about American. exceptionalism and amid the fact that a. huge issue in the 2024 campaign was. exposing this criminal cabal of. pedophiles, and that's largely owed to. the right wing in this country, that. when this stuff is finally actually. coming to light, and a lot of it born.

out, that the only accountability is. being had overseas and yet right here in. this shining city on a hill where we. beat our chest about democracy, can can. we not find a single person who. who is going to lose their job over. their involvement in all of this? Yeah, it's the only side of government. I. mean, we they have people that have lost. their jobs in the private sector and. more pressure is being put, but we've. had no investigations, not even of Les. Wexner, who said that even with all his. ties, no investigation, no prosecutions.

And the irony is that there were two. American congress people, Thomas Massie. and I, who got these files released. You. know, our names are known all over England, I'm told. And yet in the United States of America. even though there were members of. Congress, American members of Congress. who started this, we have no. accountability. Sarah Fitzpatrick. tomorrow is a huge piece in the Atlantic. coming out talking about how we got. these files released and why there is.

such a jarring hypocrisy of how the rest. of the world is reacting and what we're. doing here in America. It's a wake-up. call, obviously, for the protection cult. around Donald Trump, but it's also an. indictment for our country that we. aren't taking the survivors more. seriously. And the final point I would. would make is that we still have the. opportunity to push for accountability. and justice for these survivors.

And we need to, and that this is going. to be a defining moment for the nation. Well, look, I I know that I can speak on. behalf of everybody watching right now. in in pleading with you to keep going. If it wasn't for the work that you and. Thomas Massie are doing, and for the. survivors who continue to speak out on a. daily basis, this would not go anywhere because we. can't rely on these Republicans, especially the ones who are chairing. their committees to make sure that this. sees the light of day. So, very grateful. for the work that you're doing as I. mentioned on a weekly basis and uh and I.

appreciate you taking the time today. Always appreciate it and thank you for. shining the light. One final point, Brian, is that I do think these three. files that are hidden in this cover-up. for the allegations against the. President of the United States are a. game-changer. And when people really see. what happened, they're going to see how. uh wrong it is the people who are. protecting this president. >> [music].