Kylie Jenner Rare Interview: Hollywood Ambitions, Fav Kid Cudi Song & Timothée Chalamet Movies

wave. >> Kendall and I have been playing Sims. since we were little and we're still. playing it to this day. And we'll just. like play for like 6 hours. >> We'll FaceTime each other and we like. don't even really talk and then we just. thought of a new idea. Now we make. people that like we know. [laughter]. >> So.

Big bro with big bro. Big bro. Big bro. >> What up y'all? This is Big Bro with Kid. Cuy presented by Adobe Acrobat. I'm your. big bro Scott reporting live from the. attic in my mind. Welcome to the first. episode, the very first episode of Big. Bro. Now look, I created this show for. you. All right, I want to put you on the. dope [ __ ] and take you in the real life.

conversations I have with my favorite. people. In this first episode, I'm. sitting down with the global icon, my. home girl, Kylie Jenner. Now, I've known. Kylie for years, and she's kind of like. a little sister to me. We talked about. everything from her growing up on TV to. Parenthood and playing the Sims with her. sister, Kendall. So, I need y'all to. kick back, vibe out, and enjoy. See you. on the other side. >> I don't really do podcasts. >> I know. So, I was.

>> So, this is like a really rare. >> Yeah. >> link up. >> I know. Like, I was like [snorts] I did. research cuz I was thinking about who I. could have on the show. >> Yeah. >> And um you know, people people that. don't really do podcasts. >> and I saw that you've only maybe done. your sister's podcast. my first and only. podcast like 5 [clears throat] seconds. ago. >> Oh wow. >> So I never do this, but I'm trying. 2026, this last year really is all about. doing things outside of my comfort zone. >> Right. Right.

>> Just to make life like a little bit more. exciting. >> Damn right. That's what it's about. >> Although it already really is. But. >> yeah, it could be even more exciting. >> Yeah. >> So let's take it back. >> Let's take it back. Because do you think. people are going to think this is like a. random link up? >> Yeah. Let's take No, let's take it back. The first time we met, I don't even know. if you remember this is the Hunger Games. premiere. >> I didn't remember this until you sent me. those questions [laughter]. cuz I was trying to think about how did. we meet. >> and I feel like I've just always known.

you. >> That's true. >> And I'm like, when did we meet? >> Yeah. >> The Hunger Games premiere. >> Yeah. It was the very first time you and. Kendall were interviewing people on the. red carpet and you interviewed me and my. buddy Dot and uh. >> please nobody pull this up by the way. Do [laughter] not put a clip of us. >> Yeah, cuz we and we definitely got to. see something cuz they will plaster that. picture right in the center of. >> very embarrassing. >> Yeah, man. Throughout the years we've. hung out. A lot of crazy ass Halloween. parties. >> Lots of crazy Halloween parties. You. have the best costumes.

>> The best costumes. I've I've definitely. done my best work at your parties. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, I haven't seen the others, but. they were pretty always pretty good. [laughter]. >> Well, you know, I came to that one party. in my [ __ ] space suit. The full man. on the moon spaceuit with the glowing. >> the glowing thing was crazy. [laughter]. >> That was crazy. Who made that for you? >> So, it was this dude named um Jose uh. Hernandez. He pretty much does. superhero movies, suits, Spider-Man,

X-Men, >> and so super legit. Yeah, I linked up. with him years ago. He did um when I did. a tour, I was in the space suit and he. did the the suit for it. [snorts] And um. I just linked up with him to do a. special suit for my last tour. And um. you know, I spent so much money on the. suit. I was like, man, this Halloween, let me just go ahead and throw that on. and just. >> You [laughter] don't got to tell me. I'm. like, the amount of money I spend on. these, not only the costumes, but the. photo shoots,

>> I've retired it. I'm like, I can't be. doing this. >> It's a whole thing. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> it's a whole thing. >> So, this set we talked about when we. came in, right? It represents my mind. This is the attic in my mind. >> If we were in your mind, what would we see that represents the. child, the younger Kylie, you know, what. would be in your world? Three things. My. attic would probably look like. probably like my bedroom growing up,

which was black and like lots of skulls. everywhere [laughter]. and like dead roses. No way. >> Yes. I was a happy child. I wasn't like. I don't know why I like loved these. things, but like my room was black, skulls everywhere, dead roses, just like. the darkest black bed sheets, black bed, like black bathroom. >> So you were a little emo. >> I was a little emo. Okay. >> And then you go into Kendall's room and. it's like perfectly clean, white, [laughter] like minimalist, like.

shining. So. >> that's probably what my attic would look. like. >> And her house is kind of like the same. vibe, too. Like when we had that. Halloween party at her house, like it. was just like immaculate, like white. walls, just pristine. >> Yeah. >> So it's dope that she kind of kept that. same aesthetic since she was young, you. know? >> She did. She never switched up. Who did. young Kylie think was the coolest? Like actor, celebrity, like musician, like who did you like obsess over? Who.

was like on your wall? >> I mean, the people that I thought were. really cool, and I'm not just saying. this to be cheesy, was like my family. >> Yeah. >> Like I always thought my family was just. so cool. Even when I was younger and we. would go places and like just like, you. know, everyone like loved them, especially when I was like eight, nine. And I just like I thought they were so. cool. >> Yeah, that's so dope. >> I still think they're so cool. >> That's so dope. That's so dope. I want. to say congrats on your acting debut. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, you're in the moment, which people.

are loving right now. >> Like, how did that come about? Like, and. and are you have you thought about. having a career as an actor? >> I think it was a childhood dream of. mine. like I would do a lot of plays and. stuff, >> but I never my life just went a. different direction. Like I had my. makeup line and that's really my passion. and I just I never really thought about. it again. And like I said, this last. year has just been doing things outside. of my comfort zone and I know the. director Aiden,

>> we wanted to do a project together. it. didn't work out. And then we kind of. just became friends through that and he. told me he was working on this and I was. like, "Wow, what an opportunity for me. to do something and feel so comfortable. >> doing it.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz I didn't even know where to start, >> right? >> You know, so. I had the best time. >> That's so good. >> I felt like I was in safe hands. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I had the best time. I loved it. And. I would totally do more.

>> You would definitely do more. So, this. is something you would do? >> Yeah, >> that's dope. >> I don't know where I'm going with it. >> Yeah, cuz I'm curious like like what. roles would you do? Like like what is. something in your mind that you could. see yourself doing? Like. >> probably something in comedy. >> Okay. >> 2000's vibe or something, you know, like. super bad kind of vibes. >> Yes. >> You know, >> I think I would thrive. >> Yeah. >> I like making people laugh and showing. my personality. >> and I think I would want to do that.

Somebody got to write that movie. >> Yeah. >> Word is out now. Word is out now, guys. >> Call me. >> Um, I. >> think I need to take this off. >> Yeah, go for it. Go for it. We're doing. some wardrobe adjustment cuz it's a. little warm in here. >> Oo, it's a little warm. So, the next. take [laughter] if I have a different. outfit on. >> Did you feel like you were preparing to. play yourself or was it a different. version of you? >> It was a different version of me for. sure. >> Okay. I think I was way bitchier than I.

probably would [laughter] than I would. ever be. >> But that's always fun. Yeah. >> To like play like a heightened. >> Yeah. It was definitely a heightened. >> version of myself and just leaning into. like I don't know. I guess. a funny like stereotype or something. >> Yeah. What inspired you to get into. music? Another thing I didn't think was going. to happen, but the song the song that I. did, Fourth Strike, is really a it's. like a part two.

>> to the song, Three Strikes that I did. It was like a promotional video for my. lip gloss back in. >> 2016 or something, like 10 years ago. And I did this promotional lip gloss. video. It was like almost like a music. video, like I was living out my dreams. And we shot this whole thing and we were. like, "What song are we going to use?". like. >> this won't make sense if we use like. >> you know a known artist or something. So. we um the director knew this band Terra. Jr. They gave us this song and then it.

kind of became like this King Kylie. theme song and a lot of people thought. it was secretly me singing on it for. like 10 years. >> and even the band kind of led into it. >> and then anyway so 10 years later I did. like a 10-year anniversary. >> So I did a part two to the song and then. now it's actually me. >> singing on the song. So it was just like. a full circle moment. But that was so. fun. I would absolutely do more of that. too. >> Yeah. Yeah. You think you there's an. album down the line? Like I mean.

>> I just don't know. Are you going to help. me or something? >> I can look I can help you. I. >> Is this why I'm here? >> Yeah. Like this is this is not just for. the podcast talk. I will totally. executive produce your album. Okay. >> We'll work on the vibes. We'll talk. about what you want. >> Heard it. >> You know what I mean? Uh but like what. would a Kylie Cuddy song sound like? >> You know what I mean? Like if we did if. we did a record together, like what. would be the subject matter? >> Are we going back? What would be the.

subject matter? Are we going back to. 2016? >> We can. >> We can. I mean, that was a really dark. time for me, >> but but but we could talk about we could. talk about the struggles. I think people. would love to hear you talk about, you. know, a little bit of your struggles and. some real [ __ ] and. >> you know what I mean? Like and that is. kind of like. >> I think you should keep that mind as. your angle when you're becoming this. artist. is kind of like what uh will you. unveil that people don't know just. hearing you in an interview or seeing. you do things in your other as other.

realms in your life, you know? >> Um because I find that. >> a lot of my fans, the reason why I've. seem to been to do well over the years. is because. >> my fans, you know, they love the music, but they also know who Scott is. They. understand who I am as a person. M. >> like it's not just like cuz you know you. see like some people fan out over other. rappers or other people and that do. music and it's kind of like a surface.

thing. >> but like people are really invested in. me and my well-being and if I'm okay and. things like this you know like when I. got married people were so happy because. they know first off that like I'm a. lover and they know how badly I wanted. that in my life, >> you know, so they it's it's really nice. when you have that and I feel like you. get that when you're open with them. >> Yeah. You created like this personal.

relationship with your fans. >> Yeah. It's and it's one of the reasons. why I named this podcast Big Bro cuz. that's how I feel I am to a lot of. people, >> you know what I mean? And it's really. dope, man. I um I feel really blessed. that like what 18 years in the game. >> like I'm still like connecting with fans. about to go on tour. >> for sure. >> you know like it's it's it's dope. It's. dope, you know. >> But that's cool that that you want to do. more and and I am down to help with the.

album. >> Wow. That would be a dream. >> I'm producing now. That would be a. dream. >> I'm going to play you a record. >> Okay. Play me a record. >> Play you a record. >> I have been back to the studio. >> Really? I have been back and I tried a. few things. >> Okay. >> Just, you know, trying to find like. >> Yeah. Find your voice, >> my sound. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Everything was like kind of like dark. and slow. >> Really, really, really? And I had to. like take where is this coming from? >> Cuz I'm like, I don't think this is me. >> Yeah. >> You know, everything was kind of a. little slow. Maybe it's cuz I feel like.

my voice I'm not as comfortable singing. at a high. >> Right. You got to find the the the. comfortable pocket even with me because. like I had to take a step back and. realize like man I don't in my mind. think that I'm a singer. >> You know what I mean? People have been. hearing me sing my whole career but like. in the back of my mind I never like when. I think of singers I think of like. you know. the weekend or like you know what I. mean? Like people people that really. sing. I feel like I just kind of carry a.

note and I just kind of do a tone that. is comfortable for anybody to sing along. to. >> That's how I kind of feel. So, I think. our song would be perfect. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, the thing. is to come up with something catchy, something that people can connect with. >> Yeah. >> You know, um, and then we shoot a cool. video, >> you know what I mean? That would be. fire. >> That would be fire. But I want to play. you this song. >> Okay. >> Can we get into that? Yeah. Yeah. Let's. play it. >> Are you going to show this to the world? >> Yeah. This is going to be this is a.

world premiere. >> and a lot of people been checking for my. music and and I've been a little. secretive about it, but I feel like we. doing the podcast. >> Might as well like leak some [ __ ]. >> catch some vibes. >> Okay, [snorts] so this one is called. When I'm Down. I produced this uh I. think a year and a half, two years ago. >> Okay. >> And um. >> yeah, it's a vibe. Here we go. like you.

[music] la. down. >> Such a unique sound. >> Yeah, >> it's super happy like uplifting. Yeah, it is. La. down [music]. my way. Things don't stay the same. Wow, I love [applause and cheering] it. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, guys.

>> I love how uplifting it is. >> Yeah, man. And the beat is so fun. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I I. like to feel like I. >> I have a specific sound and and. >> you know, nobody can kind of put. together a beat like me. And I love that. like now this new chapter I'm I'm more. so um focused on producing myself. You. know, I've worked with a lot of. producers in my career, a lot of dope. guys. And um I've been able to like. watch and learn closely. Um and now I'm.

just like, man, I think that's something people. miss from me, you know? like I I I. produced Indicut all by myself and and I. was like, man, I kind of want to. quarterback this whole thing, you know? I feel like feels like only Cuy could. make some [ __ ] like that, you know? >> I totally agree. I can't wait to hear. more. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Is your next project finished or you're. just. >> No, no, no. I'm just [ __ ] around. I. got That's like maybe one of four rap.

records I got that you feel, >> you know, I mean, yeah, cuz I'm not like. I'm not in album mode right now. Like. I'm just kind of because uh I have a. couple things to direct uh this year and. then I have the tour and no I kind of. want to direct and write more and um. that's kind of like my focus for this. year. >> Amazing. >> So maybe next year, you know, it might. be might be something that comes. It. depends. I'm just kind of like stacking. up records at this point. >> Nice. >> You know what I mean? Like no.

>> no no pressure. I find that that's like. the best way to do it. Like when you. immediately announce an album, then the. pressure's on. >> Mhm. >> You know what I mean? And if it doesn't. come out in a year, you're going to have. fans hitting you up every single [ __ ]. day like, "Where's the album? Where's. the album? Where's the album?" And I do. not want people checking for that right. now. You know what I mean? I just. dropped the album last year, >> you know? And I have 13 albums, Kylie. 13. >> Yeah, you can relax. You deserve to. relax. I can chill. I can totally chill.

for like three or four years. second. chill and it no it'll be okay, you know, >> which is like, you know, there's also. kind of like a positive side to that cuz. you can take the time and really create. what you want. And also people like when. it drops, people are like, "Ah, it's. been 3 years.". >> Like they're so. >> hungry for it. >> It's like you let them. >> you let them miss you for a little bit. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And and that's. kind of like what most people. tend to forget. Um cuz people are like,

"Oh, I got to be now. I got to stay. relevant. I got to stay on top. I got to. keep going. Keep going. Keep going. But, uh, there's a there's an art to just, you. know, pacing yourself. >> And, um, I don't know. I've just I'm. constantly been creating throughout the. years that I've always been prepared to. drop an album every other year. But now. I'm just like with all these new things. I'm trying to do like directing and and.

writing movies and things like that, like I just want to kind of pivot for a. little bit. >> and just do something else. >> Yeah. I love that. >> And I think that's where you're at right. now in your career, too. >> Something about the year of the horse. >> Yeah. >> You heard about the year of the horse? >> Yes, I have. I have. >> something about it. >> My astrology friends have put me on. >> Yeah. Same. Same. [laughter]. >> Yeah. There's something about it. >> I want to talk to you about fame and how. do you handle it?

>> Um I don't know if there's like a. perfect recipe to that. >> Yeah, cuz everybody's circumstance is. different. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> I I am really proud of myself. I think. I've done a really good job, especially. being, you know, >> we we started the show when I was 9. years old and I look at my daughter and. she's eight and I'm like, "Oh my god, you were a year in a year. >> You'll be the age that I was when I was. so exposed to all of this and it's such. a although it was different times then.

There was no Instagram. There was no. >> Yeah. Um, but yeah, I think that just like. protecting. the things that I feel. need protection or just like parts of. like my personality or. I don't know maybe you feel like that. too but it's just like my relationships. and. >> you know I just try to just. >> protect myself and I have really thick.

skin I think I. >> which is which is much needed. which is. much needed. >> Yeah. >> I kind of know if there's like a bad. story or something, it will come and go. >> I have my family. I have my kids that I. go home to that I'm like love me so much. and have no idea what's going on in in. this world. Um, >> they definitely keep me grounded. >> Surrounding yourself with good people. >> Yeah. How do you think your relationship. with fame has changed throughout the. years as you've grown up? Well, you you.

talked about how like you have thick. skin. Was that always the case? Did you. have to develop that over time? >> You know, kind of going through things. and learning. >> I think I always had thick skin, but I. mean, it's definitely evolved as I've. gotten older. >> Yeah. >> I actually think as I've gotten older, maybe it's felt more personal or. something. I don't know. >> Yeah. I think there was a shift when and. maybe it's just the way social media is. now and all the platforms and all the.

information and all the it's like so. many more people have access to you to. judge you and. >> say all these things about you and I. >> and when I was like 16. 17 like Instagram was getting popular. >> Right. Right. >> I wasn't really looking at comments. about myself. I think that's where. that's where it can go. >> Yeah. get crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um. I wasn't really looking at comments and. I really like I didn't care. I. definitely had this like [ __ ] you. attitude.

>> Yeah. And that's kind of like how you It. has to be a little rock and roll. >> Yeah. It has to be a little rock. >> You can't you can't give. [laughter]. >> the Dead Roses. >> Yeah. The Rockstar was there from the. very early age. >> Yeah. >> So that and then Yeah, as I got older I. I think it started to like affect me. more or something. I don't know. >> Yeah. I mean, I think when you're young, you're a little naive to the [ __ ] in. the world, and then you get older and. you start to realize like, oh [ __ ] like.

>> it's kind of [ __ ] up out there. >> Yeah, totally. >> Like, and social media is like the. perfect mirror. >> to society sometimes. You know what I. mean? It's like the ugliest things are. on social media. And um it's just you. know like my daughter's 15 now and uh. she has her Instagram page but it's. private and she has a Tik Tok but it's. private and you know I just know that. now at at this age she's consuming.

a lot more [ __ ] than I did at 15. >> Yeah. Of course. >> You know what I mean? And it's like. >> you want to give them access. You want. them to have freedom, but it's a very. scary thing. >> I think about it all the time. >> Yeah. And. >> I call you when Stormmy turns 15. I'm. like, I don't know how I'm going to. handle it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's really. wild, man, cuz it's like, >> you know, your kids are going to go to. school and then all their friends are. going to have phones and you.

>> want your you don't want your kid to. feel left out and like you want them to. have. that. relationship with their friends where. they're all talking on their phones and. communicating, you know what I mean? >> But it's just, you know, as parents, you. want so badly to protect your kids, >> you know what I mean? And. >> and um now my daughter, like she's 15, like she can see the the [ __ ] online.

Like if I get arrested tomorrow, she. will see that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So, like it's. it's it's really a gnarly thing, man. It's something that we're all learning. now cuz it's a new thing. You know what. I mean? Social media hasn't been around. that long. It's still kind of like we're. still figuring it out, >> you know? And people are still like just. learning how to navigate this with their. children. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> We don't know how it's going to affect. them. >> No, we don't. >> And that's really scary. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a wild thing to think.

about. You know, you know, that brings. me to my next question. I kind of wanted. to talk to you about motherhood, you. know, and juggling being a mom and a. businesswoman, you know. How's that been. for you throughout the years? Just kind. of finding that balance. >> It's definitely a lot. >> cuz you wake up early. I wake up at like. 7 a.m. >> That's a that I wanted to talk about. that's a whole I had that as a section. like cuz I told the producers I was like.

>> I text Kylie one day I there was two. circumstances where I text her in the. morning cuz when I wake up in the. morning Yeah. I was like I was like I. wake up in the morning and I have a. bunch of people that I have to hit up. and I text in the morning before I. forget. Right. Okay. >> So I don't expect anyone to respond cuz. it's early in the morning. >> But like I text Kylie at like 7:30. >> Okay. She hit me right back like two. minutes later. I was like, "What the. fuck?". >> Yeah. A lot of a lot of people. >> Yeah. But it makes sense. I was like, "It makes sense. She's got kids." You.

know, like you know, when you when you. got kids, you're up at the the break of. dawn. You know, >> if I don't wake myself up, they're. waking me up. >> Exactly. >> But I'm I also like to be up 20 minutes. before them, 15 minutes before. >> You have to You can't You got to get up. before them to get prepared mentally. >> Yeah. >> Cuz when the kids get at it, it's a. whole thing. Then it's like, "Yeah, I. want to have my coffee.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, get a little dressed. >> My wife is like that. She's always like, "Don't talk to me until I have my. coffee.". >> Yeah. >> You know, and it's it's it's a it's.

really night and day. Like if it's I've. talked to her before, she has that first. sip. It's a whole another beast. >> It is. Coffee drinkers know. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you drink coffee? >> No. I'm not a coffee drinker. I don't. like the taste. >> I used to do. >> I need to send you this. My favorite. coffee. What is it? >> It's like sugary and. >> Okay. But is it like bad for me? >> Probably. [laughter]. >> Oh, Kylie trying to set me up for the. woo woo, man. Oh, man.

>> I need to send you my favorite coffee. >> Yeah, man. I'm I'm down. I'm down. I'm. going to let you take me into this. coffee journey. >> Yeah, but on my orders just I got a. latte. >> Okay. >> Hot latte with um with oat milk and. vanilla. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> that's pretty Is that a pretty basic. order? It's pretty basic. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because I I see like sometimes. people go to like order coffee and. they're like, >> "I want no cream and then they have like. this whole two shots of espresso.". >> Yeah. Like this whole [ __ ] list of. things. >> And it's like being a barista. You're.

just sitting there like, "What the [ __ ]. >> I hate my life.". >> Or it's exciting. >> Or it's exciting cuz they come in, they're like, "Okay, thank god not the. same old vanilla latte. [laughter]. >> Let me get like crazy.". I've been getting into this new feature. in Acrobat called PDF spaces, and it's. been kind of a game changer for me, especially when I'm prepping for the. podcast. Basically, I can pull in a. bunch of different files, notes, articles, transcripts, whatever, and it. puts everything into one AI powered. space. From there, I could just ask. questions, find what matters fast, and.

get up to speed without having to dig. through everything manually. Like before. our first episode, for example, I. dropped all my materials into a PDF. space, and it helped me pull out all the. key ideas, organize my thoughts, and. figure out what I actually want to talk. about. It just makes the whole process. way faster and way more focused. And the. best part, I can share with my team so. we're all aligned before we even hit. record. I built an Adobe Acrobat PDF. space for this episode. It's an interact. workspace where I pull together. everything I use to prep behind the.

scenes, inspiration, real documents, and. notes from my conversations with Kylie. Today, I'm going to challenge you to use. it as a template to build your own PDF. space. What's your big dream? Jump. started with Adobe. It's completely free. and you don't need an Acrobat account to. get in. Hit the link in the description. or on Big Bro Socials and tap in. All. right, let's get back into it. How has. being a mom changed you? for the better. >> It's definitely changed me for the. better. Just like that love and.

discovering rediscovering like wonder. through their eyes. >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> Is has been amazing. >> And I was young when I had my first. baby. >> Y. >> So I feel like I was like. >> just entering adulthood. >> Yeah. >> And I never really left that. Like I. still like Christmas morning like I. never had a. I never left that. you know holidays and birthdays and the.

excitement of like being a child. It's. like so it all happened so fast but. >> that and then just like the sense of um. purpose. >> Yeah. >> You know you're here for a reason and. they're like my whole world. >> I love it. How would you describe your. parenting style? >> I didn't think that I would be, but I. I'm the strict one. >> You're the strict? >> I think I'm the strict one. >> Okay. >> I have a good balance. Like I have a.

great relationship. I feel like my. daughter who's a little bit older, she. can definitely talk to me about. anything, but she, you know, she has. like this big personality. >> Yeah. >> So, I I have to like keep her. kind of in check. >> Yeah. [laughter] cuz she like just she. will like push her boundaries. >> Of course they all will. Yeah, >> they all will. You know, especially when. they're really little cuz they want to. figure out like, okay, who can I get. away with [ __ ] with? >> Totally. >> You know what I mean? Like it's all it's.

all a test. >> And me, I was the sucker for it, you. know? Like. >> there was nothing that I wouldn't do for. Veta. Like, you know, like if she wanted. something, I'll be like, "Okay." Like I. remember one time she um her mom told me. that she had requested an American Girl. doll, right? And I'm like, "Okay, uh I'm. going to get her an American Girl doll.". So I I go to the American Girl doll. store and they have.

[ __ ]. playset units and like all all these. different dolls with all these different. skin colors, all different backgrounds. >> And I'm like, "Oh man." So, all right, we're going to get Vader. I found the. one that she wanted and I was like, "But. she's got to have a friend and they got. to like hang out." So, we got to get her. two friends, right? We'll get this girl. and then we get this girl. Oh, and they. got to have a place to hang out. We got. to get the playet. >> Yeah. I was I spent like maybe a couple. racks in there at this store, right? And.

you know, I I just I always. when I had Beta, the first thing on my. mind was just like I want to make sure. that her experience. is a much better one than the one I had. >> You know what I mean? >> And like. I don't ever want her. to like need nothing. >> You know what I mean? >> Like that that was like my main goal. >> Yeah. I think my my brother.

>> is like that too with his daughter. Like. he cannot say no. >> Yeah. >> And he'll come to me and I'm like you. don't this is just my advice. I think. every parent like you just knows their. kid the best. >> But I was like it's you could still give. her everything but just like not right. away, >> right? >> Say say okay. >> if you have an amazing week at school. and then like give it to her on Friday. or like. >> they forget. Yeah. No, but give it to.

her, but like just make her wait like a. little bit, even a day or an hour like. >> and give her something to to look. forward to and work towards. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like even just. being like, "Hey, you know, let me see. your report card and then we can talk.". Yeah. >> You know, but my daughter is just like. it's so [ __ ] annoying cuz she's. getting straight A's. It's like [ __ ]. >> You know what I mean? I was like like do. something wrong. You know what I mean? Like so I have to keep rewarding her. It's like okay, I got to buy her a car, you know? It's like it's a whole thing. Uh but it's it it it is.

>> being a girl dad specifically is, >> you know, such a blessing. You know, I I. I I. found this softness. >> in my soul when my daughter was born. >> And I was 26 when I had her and when not. when I had her, uh when her mom had her, >> you never know. And I was like, [laughter]. >> um, >> that's not how it happens. [laughter].

>> That's not how it happens. Just. >> It's way crazy. >> It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. Me and my wife were talking about having. kids and I'm like, "All right, I'm going. to be in the room and I'm going to be. like watching everything and making sure. you're okay." And she was like, "Babe, it's going to be kind of intense. I. don't know if you'll be able to stand. there." I was like, "I'm cool. Cool.". She's like, "You're gonna faint." And. I'm like, "I'm gonna faint." Like, "I'm. not gonna faint? What do you mean? She's. like, "You're going to [ __ ] faint. Just My dad fainted twice with me and my. brother. You're going to faint.".

>> Did you watch the first Did you watch. the birth of your daughter? >> No. No. No. Cuz my daughter was a month. premature. >> Oh, okay. >> So, my plan was I was going to go to. Chicago to stay with Jackie two weeks. leading up to when she was due. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? To just spend time. with her and be with her and and all. that, you know? But like a month. premature and I was I I was traveling. somewhere. I wasn't in town. So I had to. I couldn't get there that day, but I got.

there the next day. Right. So I didn't. see any of the labor, you know. Um. which I uh was really bummed about. Uh. >> yeah, of course. >> But my daughter but my daughter, you. know, >> she wanted to she wanted to get here. fast. Yeah. You know, >> I think you should watch the next time. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> I think it's like really beautiful to. >> Okay. >> to experience. >> All right. So, I'm going to tell I'm. going to tell my wife. I'm like, Kylie.

said I should watch. So, [laughter]. >> I know, right? She's like, >> Brianna, I said that. It's up to her. >> No, I'm using you as her decision. >> I'm using you as an excuse. I'm like. Kylie said on the podcast. >> Can you play the You play the. >> Yeah, play the podcast. See right here. Um, have your kids had any moments when. they've realized that they're in the. spotlight? >> Yeah, of course. I think it's like super. maybe normal to them, but my. >> at this point it's normal. >> It's pretty normal.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I think um you know, they see people. like come up to me and um like ask me. for photos and my son not so much. My. daughter for sure now. >> Yeah. She asked me the other day. She. said, "How why are we famous? Why is our. whole family famous?" Cuz that's crazy. [laughter] I'm like, "Actually, let me. try to answer.". >> Yeah. My family is just me and that's. easier to explain to the kids like when. it's everybody.

>> So, Love is famous. I'm like, "Oh, yeah." So, and I'm like, you know, but I. think now that she's in school. >> Yeah. >> She's asking more questions. I don't. know if she's going to school and other. kids are saying something. I don't know. >> Yeah, >> because I think, you know, she says some. kids are like fans of her dad and stuff. So, I think it's becoming, >> you know, more. present in her mind, >> right? >> She But she said, "Why are we famous?". And I was like, I sat. I'm like, "We. started a television show when I was a.

year older than you, and that's how we. that's why we're all in this together. because we were all on the show. together." She was like, "Can I watch. it?" And I'm like, "Sure.". >> [laughter]. >> Oh, that's so dope. Seeing with your. kids watching the show must be crazy. >> So, we watched the turn on the first. episode some things I didn't realize. were like inappropriate. So, right. [laughter] so like right when I knew. that it was about to start playing, I. like fast forward through all the. inappropriate stuff, but I show I showed. her like a cute scene of like a house. party that we had and like just some.

little things that I knew were fine. She. was like, "Okay, mommy, when can we. watch episode 2?" And then she kind of. left the room. I was so emotional after. Like I don't know what hit me, but I was. like weeping in my bed. Like I don't. know why that happened to me. I was just. like maybe it's like my daughter being. the same age as I was. >> Yeah. and just seeing like my family and. I'm like, you know, just. >> feeling so grateful for for all that.

we've built and like but also mourning. like that closeness when we were all. kind of living under the same roof. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It was very emotional. I didn't know it. was going to hit me like that. >> But it's a beautiful thing that at any. given moment you can go back. >> Yeah. That too. >> See yourself as a kid. >> and what that's like. See, I don't have. any videotapes of my childhood when I. was younger. I only have photos. >> Yeah. >> So, it it must really be nice to just be. able at any given time to like time.

travel. >> Yeah. It's like these super public home. videos. It's. >> Yeah. It's super dope. >> It's a blessing. >> It's like this is me at 9, >> you know? What's the hardest part about. keeping those boundaries for your kids? You know, like separating the madness. outside in the world and your career and. keeping it kind of normal with them. I. think I do a really good job. Um there's some things that I just can't. control, like when we go out in public. and stuff like that. >> Yeah.

>> And. you know, she'll kind of tell me now. what she wants to do and what she. doesn't want to do. >> Yeah. >> And just never feeling like this is like. there's, you know, I never put her in. I don't know. I I try my best. I really. just try my best because sometimes I go. through a year of like I don't want to. post a picture of them and I don't want. them and then and then there'll be. something where I'm like oh it's fine to. post this picture and I don't know I. kind of go I go back and forth. >> Yeah. But it seems like you have a nice. balance. Yeah, I do. You know what I.

mean? Like, and that's and that's great, you know, cuz um the the young mind is. very sensitive and this world that we're. in is [ __ ] crazy and it's hard to. explain to the youth, to the babies. sometimes. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And especially. like. when my daughter was really little, she. was I I saw she was like piecing it. together. M I remember when I brought.

her on stage one time. Um the first time. I brought her on stage, like uh I was. worried. I was like, "Okay, I wonder if. she's going to be freaked out by this. crowd." Cuz we were in an arena. And my. mom brings her out and she gives her to. me. And my daughter is just like. looking. at the crowd with a very like, >> okay, >> h like I wonder what this is. was all. these people here like no fear.

>> Okay. >> Like totally just like, "Oh, this is. interesting." And. um I was like, "Do you want to say. something? Do you want to say say da. da?" And she was like, "Da." And the. crowd went crazy. >> I have to like look this up if this. >> Oh yeah, it's online. It's online. So I. took her out when when she was two. That. was the first time. And then I brought. her out again when she was three. And. she sang day and night in that that. second time. Uh, but she was just the. bravest little kid, like not phased. And.

I, you know, actually talked about this. before, like I'm really curious to have. conversations with my daughter when. she's like a grown woman and just kind. of talk to her like like what was your. experience like. >> like. >> growing up, you know, my daughter and. and and. seeing my life play out and. >> all the [ __ ] that I do and, >> you know, cuz I think at 15 she can't. articulate that.

>> Mhm. She can't really. really explain to me what all this means. and makes her feel. >> You know what I mean? I think I need I. need to wait till she's a little bit. older and where she can. >> really, you know, let me know like, "Hey, Dad, it was kind of crazy when. this happened. I never told you. I was. only 12, but like this was crazy.". >> Well, you got to tell me. >> Yeah. on the low what she says cuz like.

>> Oh yeah, man. I mean that's. >> it's hard it's really hard to navigate. >> Yeah. Yeah. And even even like you know. I was all in the news with the the Diddy. trial and all that [ __ ] was going crazy. and like during that moment like I know. my daughter saw something online. >> You know what I mean? Like I know she. saw that [ __ ] and it's like I can't. [sighs]. I can't like protect her from that like.

it's it's when something like that. happens and it's like. huge news and everybody's talking about. it. >> Did you talk to her about it? >> I had to explain. Um I think we had a. conversation about it, you know. Um, >> I feel like it's just about creating a. safe space to be able to like if she. does see something to come to you and. ask. >> Yeah. >> Maybe it's just about having that. conversation. You know, >> I definitely should should have that. conversation because she is the type. where she will see something and then.

not say anything to me. >> Yeah. >> Cuz she feels like it's out of line or. she doesn't want to. >> It is weird to talk about sometimes. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, >> it's just it's it's crazy, man. It's. it's, you know, we're navigating. something that only a few people. really get a chance to to do, really. have to do, you know. >> Um, >> but, uh, >> it starts with us, right? It starts with. the parents. You raise them, right?

>> You know, guide them, >> give them give them the rules of life. You know what I mean? >> Make sure they're not [ __ ]. >> Don't be a dick. You know what I'm. saying? Like, you know, like, and it. goes back to what you were saying about. kindness. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's kind of like that's. pretty much what your family was. teaching you is not to be a dick. Like, just be nice to people. You know what I. mean? >> And that goes a long way. >> Um, let's talk about Kylie Cosmetics. Like, let's take it back. Like, how did. this happen? You know, where did this.

idea come from? >> It came from like 15year-old me. I was. obsessed with makeup. I I think I. started I mean I know I started creating. like this. fan base like this very personal. relationship with these young you know. people and I would go you know to the. MAC store. >> and I would go to the mall and I would. like buy all these lip liners that I. wanted to like you know overline my lips. and and then I realized like you know my.

followers started becoming obsessed with. like what color lip lipstick I was. wearing. And I think that's when it was. like cuz there really wasn't something I. found out there that was like my perfect. >> thing and a lip liner that matched the. lipstick and the lip kit. And I just. like I really wanted to do this and I. was always really passionate about. makeup. Like I would be like 12 years. old on YouTube when YouTube first came. out, like watching tutorials and wearing. like a purple eyeshadow in sixth grade.

and like so. it just really. was super authentic. >> Mhm. >> And. I um. I brought my mom the idea, Chris Jenner. She one day like drove all around. California. Like we just didn't know. kind of what we were like we didn't know. where to start, >> right? >> So it was, you know, hard to just kind.

of figure out how we were going to do. this. But we found a factory in Oxnard. and, you know, I just like put up all my. own money that I made from the show. and I owned 100% of my company and I. just like went for it. No fear. And my. mom was like, "This is either going to. be really great or you're going to have. lots of lip kits in the garage, >> you know, [laughter]. and um you know, it was I just had so. much faith in it. Like I really believed.

in it.". >> But that's dope that you like, you know, a lot of people don't take the big. swings in life. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? People like play. it safe. >> Yeah. >> You know, and you seem like somebody. that takes the big swings. >> Yeah. >> Which is dope. >> Yeah. >> You know, I'm definitely the same way. like um tell me a little bit like your. approach with marketing and social. media. Like how does that all work. together? Like what's your grand scheme? >> Well, it's totally different today than. it was then because I remember my mom. even saying to me like we're probably a.

week away from the first launch. And I. was like she was like so you know what. are we going to do? What's the marketing. plan? Like do we need to hire someone? Like are we going to do a billboard or. this or that? And I was just like no I'm. just going to post on Instagram. Like. that wasn't even a thing. >> Right. posting to promote your brand on. Instagram. I'm like, "No, I'm just this. is how this is where my fans are and. like this is what I'm going to do.". She's like, "Okay, like good luck.". Basically, she didn't not believe in me. She was like a great support system. She. just didn't understand like. >> But also was a new thing.

>> It was a super new thing. >> Yeah. >> So, I just like no budget. I just like. posted a picture of the lip kits on. Instagram and was just like launching at. this time and you know it just people. didn't do that at the time but now I. mean marketing is so different now it's. like you have to get really creative. because it's super like. oversaturated but in the best way. Like. I I love it too. >> Yeah. Yeah. But you know like you've. you've built a fan base of loyal.

customers that love your products. >> Yeah. you know, >> and 10 years later, I mean, I'm just. like so grateful because I really love. it. So, I go to work every day in the. office and I'm just like, I can't. believe I get to play with makeup all. day. Like, >> oh, so you be going to the office? >> Oh, I'm super. involved. Like really crazy about. everything. I I mean, I do the. Instagram. I like myself like I do all. the posts. I do all the marketing, all. the shoots, picking the models, all the.

makeup, all the formulas, all know. knowing all the factories. Like. >> that's so dope. >> Yeah. >> Oh man, I didn't know that. >> It's hard for me to like hand it off. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it's my baby. >> Yeah. And and and that's true. Like when. you like I I find that I'm learning that. too now with things that I'm working on. Like I I feel like, you know, it might. seem like a heavy lift to other people, but like when you have a vision and you. know how things are supposed to be, it's. kind of like you have to quarterback the.

[ __ ] You know what I mean? To make sure. it's executed in the right way. >> Totally. >> You know, how important do you think. authenticity is for people to connect. with your brand? >> I think it's like the most important. thing. Yeah, >> I think people can tell when it's not. >> authentic. And. I think that's like the reason why it. was so successful cuz people knew my. love for makeup and lipstick and. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It felt legit.

>> Felt legit. >> Is there any advice you've gotten in. your career that you think was just like. the best [ __ ] ever to hear? >> In my career? >> Yeah. because you had to get some advice for. like like you're you're like a super. businesswoman, entrepreneur, >> you know what I mean? Somebody had to. give you some guidance to like, you. know, get you into that space. >> I mean, a few things that just off the. top of my head, kindness, >> I think gets you really far.

>> This is true. And watching my sisters, especially when I was younger, be so. kind to everyone that they worked with. >> was really inspiring to me because then. it it you know, you build these. relationships and you um. you know, like you would do a great. photo shoot and that photographer then. tells everyone, "Oh my god, she was so. amazing to work with." and it opens up. this more opportunities. And I really. feel like that's a huge reason why my.

family and my older sisters became so. successful is because they were just so. kind to everyone and great to work with. >> So that was really inspiring um and. something I carried with me. And then um. probably just like the energy that I'm. having now just. trying not to. let anyone's like opinions about me. affect. my dreams. Like I don't want to look.

back on life and be like, "Oh my god, >> I had the world in my hands and I didn't. like. >> take the opportunity to do all these. things that I've dreamt about, you know, and I like lost my chance basically.". >> Yeah. >> So that's become a fear of mine and I'm. really like there's something that. happens when your frontal lobe develops. and you turn like in your late 20s or. something and you're like I don't know. >> Yeah. What are some of your proudest. moments as a businesswoman? Honestly,

like customers being really happy like. seeing an seeing a organic video on. TikTok. >> that isn't a paid ad and someone really. loves the product. >> Yeah. Like it's not like they were paid. to do it. >> Yeah. And that makes me really happy. That's really satisfying. >> Yeah. That's dope. What's the biggest. lesson you learned about being a. business owner in that time? [clears throat]. >> Biggest lesson. >> cuz I'm sure there were a lot of ups and. downs. a lot of trial and error since it's like. you said it was a new thing.

>> Yeah. I think that you know what a. lesson was. >> to, you know, sometimes like if people. were pushing me to put out something. that wasn't ready. or I felt like it wasn't ready, I kind. of would listen or follow this like. schedule. and now I'm like hard no. >> Yeah, >> it's not ready. I would rather wait 4. years than drop it when it's not ready,

you know, or. >> or not drop it at all. >> So, I think just having having that. mentality is like just making really. making sure everything is perfect and. there's not like no slip ups. >> Would you say you're a perfectionist? >> McKenzie's like [snorts]. my [laughter] style. Yes. perfectionist or like meticulous. >> Yeah. >> Like, you know, very like very.

particular. >> Detail oriented. >> Detail oriented. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> With everything like my outfits, my. hair, my this, my, you know. >> Yeah. I remember when I when I hit you. up about doing the podcast, she was. like, "Got to get the glam squad ready.". I was like, "Do that's right. >> She got to get her [ __ ] right. She's got. to She can't just show up like me, throw. on a [ __ ] t-shirt, and just brush my. teeth and go out go out the door." Yeah, >> I find that being a perfectionist is to. some people you might seem like a uh a. crazy person.

>> You know, >> I say this all the time. [laughter]. >> I have to be like, I know I'm being a. crazy person, but I I can't help myself. >> Yeah, man. It's crazy. But it's man, when you're when you're focused and you. have a vision, you know, um sometimes it. look, that's what it's about, right? you. you want to make sure the the product. that you're making is the best thing. that it can be. >> You know what I mean? Yes. >> And we were talking about music and the.

fact that I'm kind of taking my time. with it. Like I just. >> want to make sure I have the time to. make sure it's the best [ __ ] it can be. >> 100%. >> This is the end of the show where we do. the wrap-up. Okay. >> Right. We'll just these rapid fire. questions. What is your morning routine? We know. you're an early bird. You know, 7 a.m. you get started. >> Coffee. >> You respond to text messages. Coffee. We. know that. >> What else is there? >> And then I check on my kids.

>> Okay. >> So, my daughter's going to school. My. son is having his breakfast. >> Mhm. >> Um. I'm like on fire in the morning. >> Do [laughter] you feel that? I when I. when you text me back after 2 minutes. and I text you at 7:30 a.m. I was like, >> "Okay.". >> Yeah. I thrive. I'm like then I'm, you. know, after I have my morning and my. coffee and my kids, then I like will. check my phone, >> you know, there's usually I work from my.

phone, too, which is kind of weird. >> Yeah. >> I don't really have a computer. Like. >> same. I I very rarely I I started. writing scripts again, so I'm using the. um a laptop, but like. >> for years I I just operate off my phone. Yeah. So, that kind of feels weird. because it feels like. >> I'm like doing something wrong. But. >> I do some work off my phone and then I'm. usually like at the office like three or. four days a week, whether it's meetings. or photo shoots. And so then I'll head. off to to work.

>> Wow. What is your favorite movie of. Timmy's? I need to know. Like what's the. one movie? >> That's hard for me because I feel like I. really love them all. Yeah, >> but Call Me By Your Name is pretty like. >> perfect. >> Mhm. >> It's just pretty perfect. And I really. love the Dunes. >> Yeah, the Dunes are strong. And I'm. ready for that new one in December. >> Me, too. >> I'm ready. We got had we got have Timmy. come through. We talk about Dune. >> But no, that Call Me By Your Name. I.

remember that was when me and around. that time is when me and Timmy reunited. since he was 17. >> Oh, okay. Wow. >> Yeah. And um. >> like after he start stopped filming. after he finished it. >> Well, no dur when it when it was out and. it was like you know the press run and. he was winning awards and he would thank. me and talk about me and and I would. just be like. >> this this kid keeps thanking me in this. speech. I was like do I know him? I was. like cuz he does not look the same.

as when he was 17. It looked like a. totally different person. It was just a. a brief moment in my life, you know what. I mean? So, I just forgot what he looked. like and I couldn't make the connection. His team reached out and then I figured. I figured it all out. I was like, "Oh, that's the kid that I met when he was. 17.". >> And so, ever since then, like when we. reconnected, like he took me to see Call. Me By Your Name in the theater. >> Oh, wow. and he bought the tickets and. uh we went to a spot in Las.

uh. super dope and and ever since then. that's been our thing for us to watch. his movies together. >> Oh, >> you know, so it's like tradition. I've. seen all all his [ __ ] you know, um in. the theater with him for the most part. Uh and you were there when we saw Wonka. >> Oh, I mean I saw it like seven times. When did we when did we see it together? We we [laughter] shot so. Yeah.

This is when I rented the theater and we. had all the kids come through. >> Of course. Of course. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um. >> but I wasn't there. >> Oh, okay. >> I wasn't there. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> I remember when you guys were doing that. though. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That was fun. >> Yeah, that was a good time. >> I was worried about you guys. >> Why just like you're posting your. location and you're all going to the. theater? Like I'm scared. >> Well, no. It's it's it's me. This is. something I do. It's It's a crazy thing. But like, no, it's cool. >> When I invite my fans, they always on. their best behavior. >> Nobody's creepy. Everybody's [ __ ].

chill. They're just happy that they got. a free ticket to the movies, free. popcorn, and they get a chance to be in. a room with us and watch a movie. >> I love that. >> You know what I mean? They're super. respectful, you know? Uh, >> what's one thing you nerd out on that. people might be surprised about? >> Maybe like. playing Sims or something. [laughter]. Okay. Okay. >> Like I can't really. >> fun though, man. When you get when you. fall down that rabbit hole, it's a whole. [ __ ] thing. >> Yeah. You know, >> my Kendall and I have been playing Sims.

since we were little and we're still. playing it to this day. And we'll just. like play for like 6 hours. Holy [ __ ]. And even now, I'll fa we'll FaceTime. each other and we like don't even really. talk, but we're just there and we're. like we play and we like, you know, make. our families and then and then we just. thought of a new idea. Now we make. people that like we know. >> [laughter]. >> So, so like we'll make our friends and stuff.

and then um all live in a house together. and it's just um it's fun and there's. like so many worlds now and. >> Oh man, that's so crazy. I haven't. played the Sims in a minute. I just. remember they had that that funny ass. way of talking. >> Yeah, they have their own language. Wait, but did you see I saw on Tik Tok. or something the woman there's a woman's. like she's a real person and she does. the she's does the voiceovers for Sims. and she knows yeah I thought I don't. know why I'm thinking for some reason.

like a proper language that that's. >> there's a proper language no way. >> yes and she like knows. >> you have to watch this video I'll send. this to you also after but her like she. starts talking and me and Kendall. obviously I think you know what Kendall. sent me this video Kendall be Oh my god. Fangirling out on [laughter] this. Like. this is the the sound the voice. >> cuz it's such an iconic voice. >> Yeah, man. Oh my god. I got to I got to. see this. Send that to me. >> I will.

>> Yeah. Um, your sister Chloe launched a. podcast. Have you thought about starting. your own podcast? I think it would be a. smash. [laughter]. Like, you should really think about. that. >> I haven't. >> Really? >> No. Well, you got a million things going. on. >> You want me to like come and co-host. again? Like maybe I'll like co-host. >> Oh, >> someone else. >> Cuddy and Kylie. >> Big girl and big sis. >> That would be fire. >> We might have to do a special episode.

Like every once in a while we do a. special episode. >> I would love that. >> And it's me and you and then another. guest and we interview someone. >> Yeah, >> that would be fire. >> That would be fire. We should get. Kendall on here or something. >> Yes, let's do that. That was my next. question. And I was going to ask you, who else do you think we should have on. the show? >> I think we need Kendall on here. >> Okay, >> we need one more chair in between us. >> We get one more chair. >> and all the questions are about Sims. >> All about Sims. All about Sims. I'm. down. I'm down. >> Kendall, we're inviting you on the. podcast. Big bro and big sis. [laughter].

Now, like I said, I know I know you have. [ __ ] with my music for a long time. So, I just need to know like what is. your favorite? If it's not your. favorite, just what's the first song. that comes to mind when you think of my. music? Like, which which song is your. [ __ ]. >> Higher. >> Oh. Oh, deep cut. Nice. Nice. [laughter]. [gasps] Okay. >> That's like I grew up on that song. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I've smoked a lot of weed to that song.

[laughter]. You know what? That gives me something. that you can't explain. [laughter]. Like I I like I can't explain it. Like. that makes me feel so good in my soul. >> It honestly makes me want to cry now. >> But no, it's really it's really. refreshing that you said that. >> Yeah, it left an imprint on me for sure. >> That's so dope. So dope. >> Um I also love Man on the Moon 3. Man on. the moon. >> Man on the moon 3 is the [ __ ] Oh, thank. you. Thank you so much. >> That was like 2020, right?

>> Yeah. 2020. >> Mhm. And that was. >> I like got in shape to that album. That. was like my workout. >> I think during that time I saw you post. a story with one of the songs. >> That's like all I listen to. >> And I remember somebody sent it to me. They like, "Yo, Kylie posted your shit.". I was like, "Shut the [ __ ] up." That's I. was like, "That's cap." I was like, "No, [ __ ] She just she post she's driving. her car right now. She just posted on. the stories." I'm like, "Man, let me see. what I went to your page, saw the story, and I was like, "Shut the [ __ ] up.". [laughter] I was like, "No way.". >> Lots of workout videos, lots of like. That was like my 2020. Ah, that's dope.

That's dope, man. That that album for. me, that was a scary one, man. to be. able to to to. to dip back into the man on the moon. [ __ ] after 10 years of since the last. one and be able to come up with. something for that time that felt new. >> that didn't feel like I was trying to be. like anything of that time. >> and and introduce people to some new.

vibes like it it either could have been. it either could have gone extremely. Well, or it could have been a disaster. You know what I mean? Like I feel like. my career was on the line with that. album just because of. what I built with the first two men on. the moons. Like people pressure. >> Yeah. Like it was like, >> you know, but I went into it very. confident because I in my head I knew. the style of record like what I wanted. to make, >> you know what I mean? And I felt like,

you know, I was coming off of Kitsy. Ghost and people were really excited. about that. That kind of brought me back. and. >> people were checking for me again. And I. was like, man, while I have people's. attention, people been asking me about A. Man on the Moon 3 for years. >> Let me just go ahead and just deliver. and but make it make it something that I. want to make. Like make [clears throat]. it make something that I think is cool. Mhm. I loved it.

>> Yeah. Thank you. >> September 16. >> Yeah. >> Is like one I have on my little playlist. right now. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> So I'm like listening to that again. >> Oh man. Thank you so much. Thank you so. much. Yeah. That was me being sensitive, you know? [laughter]. >> Yeah. I love that. >> And what's the biggest moonshot? What's. the goal? What is an ambition or. something that you haven't done that you. think seems impossible that people. wouldn't expect you to do? you know, >> I'm going to like double down on like an.

album or a movie or something. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like it feels like so big right now. >> Yeah. >> Well, we should definitely talk about. >> the album. I would really love to help. you out with that. >> I would love that. >> You know what I mean? And we just vibe. out. And. >> you know, I I think uh one thing that. could be cool with your project is. exploring just different realms. sonically. >> You know what I mean? I want to play for. a little bit. Like I want to take like a.

few months to just like kind of see what. >> Yeah. Just mess around. >> can happen. >> Yeah. Well, that's important, man. I. think that's how you end up finding the. good [ __ ] is if you put in the time and. you just. >> explore. >> Yeah. >> You know, you never know what you find. >> I know. I'm excited. >> Thank you so much, man. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, this was great. >> This was perfect. >> Hey, thanks for coming through the. attic, y'all. Make sure you subscribe on. YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. and follow the show on social media. Bigb Brocuy. Until next time, love.

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