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Welcome to the Global News podcast from. the BBC World Service. I'm Anker Desai. Here's what's coming up. Chaotic scenes. in Spain's Suta territory as police move. hundreds of migrants off the beach and. into a camp. We'll go to South Korea. where the president has rejected Donald. Trump's calls for troops to join the war. in Iran. >> South Korean constitution does forbid it. from entering any war of aggression. And. of course, this is a very uh unpopular. proposition from President Trump. Russia. begins voting in its first parliamentary.

election since the full-scale invasion. of Ukraine with no real opposition to. Vladimir Putin. >> The differences between those parties uh. are are mostly cosmetic because all of. them u have at some point pledged their. loyalty to to the Kremlin. >> Also in this podcast, we'll speak to our. correspondent in Pakistan about a deadly. attack at a mosque. This was a a vehicle. that had been laden with explosives, then drove uh into and exploded at the. mosque. >> And go to Nigeria where dozens of people. accused of illegal mining have died in.

custody. First to the Spanish territory of Suta. in North Africa, where police have been. moving hundreds of migrants from beaches. to the port area where tents have been. set up. Tens of thousands of migrants. crossed from neighboring Morocco to Suta. in late July. At least 100 people died. during the crossing. Though most. migrants returned, several thousand. remained in the territory. Many of them. have been sleeping on beaches. Earlier,

I heard more from our global affairs. reporter Sebastian Usher. >> This was one of the first big operations. to try to move the migrants who have. taken residence, if you can call it. that, on the beaches in Seut. around. 3,000. So that started early in the. morning. Now, there was a pretty tight. route towards the port area where tents. have been set up, but there aren't. enough tents for the number of people. who are on the beaches, which is not the. whole amount of migrants in any case,

but are still in Seut. So, I think. that's why there was a lot of pushing. and jostling and and and rush at the. start. People wanted to ensure that they. could get one of those places. also. minors and there's a lot of younger uh. uh uh uh men who were there uh would be. put somewhere else. So I think they. wanted to ensure that they could stay. with whoever they had, you know, either. gone with or struck a relationship with. since. So as you heard, shots were. fired, rubber bullets were fired in the. air, police backed up by the Spanish. military, used batons at a certain.

point, was brought under control. So. this operation has been finished for now. but it's only you know a partial uh. effort to try and solve the crisis that. continues. >> How do people set in in the territory. and so to feel about what's happening? What's their view on what's been. happening? >> Not happy at all. You can imagine I mean. originally the more than 70,000 people. who crossed uh that was a huge issue. It. has happened before but not to that. extent and the fact that there are still. we don't know the numbers but maybe up.

to 10,000 maybe a bit more of migrants. still there sleeping rough often in very. difficult conditions there have been. protests by people in Seut against this. demanding that they are sent back to. Morocco where most of them uh came from. but the Spanish government does more. this is partly a response to that that. this is being done but I say it's a. temporary south there are also some. local initiatives to try to help people. I mean, as you say, these are vulnerable. young people, uh, many of them. teenagers. So, there's a sense that they.

are in a very difficult situation. themselves. So, there are some local. groups who've been trying to give them. food and some some aid as well. President Trump has made no secret of. his fury at US allies that have failed. to give military support to the conflict. with Iran. Now, South Korea has ruled. out sending any troops despite coming. under pressure in recent weeks. However, President Lee Jay Mung says he is. considering sending assets to support. South Korean vessels in the straits of. Hormuse. Our correspondent in Seoul is. Jake Quan.

>> President Trump didn't exactly spell it. out, but what he did say was that, you. know, he was disappointed at South Korea. for not giving him a hand with what he. called a very easy military operation. Now when you speak to the experts they. have uh said that perhaps this means you. know helping with the rem getting rid of. the mines in the straight of Hormuz or. helping other you know oil tankers or. other uh shipping uh ships traverse. through the straight Hormuz by escorting. them all the way up to you know perhaps.

even helping with anti- drone or. anti-missile operation. South Korea does. produce some state-of-the-art missiles. that can shoot down drones as well as. missile. it is already selling them to. UAE and Saudi Arabia. So you know these. are different helps that South Korea. could potentially provide. Now the. problem is that you know South Korean. constitution does forbid it from. entering any war of aggression and of. course this is a very uh unpopular. proposition from President Trump. >> and so has to I suppose tread carefully.

on on this matter Jake because we've. seen that President Trump has ratcheted. up pressure in recent weeks and months. He scaled down military exercises and. he's had a lot of warm words for North. Korea's leader too. >> He has he has I mean you know he said. that this was unrelated to you know. what's happening with South Korea but it. really seemed like he was punishing. South Korea uh for not giving him a hand. with Iran uh his kind of you know.

insistence that he has good relationship. with North Korea. sudden pulling out. from the joint exercise with South. Korea. These were all aimed at kind of. turning up the heat against South Korea. and South Korea is in the middle of a. critical trade negotiation with the. United States. So there's a lot at the. stake for South Korea and it is really. stuck between a rock and a hard place. because on one hand it wants to appease. uh Washington. It has already pledged to. put in $350 billion in investment into. manufacturing sector of America. At the.

same time, it has a diplomatic. relationship that it wants to preserve. with Iran. You know, South Korea used to. have a business relationship. South. Korea still gets, you know, some 60% of. its oil from the Middle East. So, South. Korea is hoping that, you know, once. this is all over, it can go back to how. it was before. People in Russia are. voting in the first parliamentary. election since Russia's full-scale. invasion of Ukraine. Surprises are not. expected. The poll is set to deliver. another parliament dominated by the.

party of power, United Russia, and a. house of MPs fiercely loyal to Vladimir. Putin. Critics dismiss the vote as. neither free nor fair. Here's what we. heard from some voters. >> First of all, resolving the situation. with Ukraine is the most painful issue. All of the other matters, material, political, ideological, and economic, stem from it. which. >> I always want to hope for the best for. some kind of change to hope that.

citizens request will be treated with. greater attention and that the opinion. of the people the majority of the people. will be heeded. >> The Kremlin has dismissed critics of the. poll. A spokesperson recently said, "We. have our own political system, our own. political process." Moscow is expected. to use the poll to claim that most. Russians back President Putin and the. war. BBC Russians Liza Fed gave me some. more context from Berlin. >> I think there's little doubt about the. outcome of the election given all the.

meaningful opposition to Vladimir Putin. and to the ruling party United Russia. just simply wasn't allowed to. participate in this election. There's a. little intrigue about which party is. going to come second, but the. differences between those parties uh are. are mostly cosmetic because all of them. have at some point pledged their loyalty. to to the Kremlin and to Vladimir Putin. >> Lisa, is there any level of I suppose. opposition being expressed at all? >> Virtually none. one of the oldest.

Russian party called Yaba which means an. apple um in in in Russian was going to. run in this election and they were. campaigning under the slogan uh for. peace uh and at some point it uh seemed. to have attracted lots and lots of. attention especially coming from young. people on social media but in the end. the central uh election commission. barred them from participating and uh. the rep Russian opposition in exile has. off offered you know conflicting. guidance to to those who oppose the war.

and Vladimir Putin on what to do this. election. But uh all parties on the. ballot uh essentially uh support. Vladimir Putin's policies and at the end. of the day the war in Ukraine. >> Lisa, how about the people in Russia? What about their thoughts on the. conflict with Ukraine? Will this factor. in how they vote in any way? I mean the war in Ukraine is obviously. as you can imagine uh the main issue. concerning people yet the parties.

running for for the office they're not. really offering any alternative solution. to this war because like for for. instance most of the parties they. include candidates who participated in. uh in the invasion of Ukraine who fought. in Ukraine and essentially for most for. some of them for for for these people. for these veterans you know like these. elections offer a a path you go to to to. power, a path in in in in uh Russian um. politics. So certainly this is the issue.

that I think like most people would like. to see on the ballot, but that's just. not happening. >> Still to come, experts have warned that. AI might one day wipe out humanity. But. how would it do that? We'll take a look. at the possible scenarios. Next we go to Pakistan where an attack. on a mosque in the northwest has left at. least 16 people dead including five. policemen. The attackers rammed a. vehicle packed with explosives into the. building in the Kohhat district of Kiba.

Paktuna. I caught up with our. correspondent Carrie Davies in. Islamabad. >> This is information that we're getting. through a police official in the area. We've been told that as you say that. there were 11 civilians that have been. killed, five police officers. The same. official has also said that during the. process of that gun battle that they had. managed to kill six of the attackers. Now, what we've been told by this. official was that this was a vehicle. that had been laden with explosives and. drove uh into and exploded at the. mosque. We've heard from AP news agency.

as well. They are saying that close to. that mosque there was also a building. that was used to house uh police. officials. Uh and now this explosion was. pretty substantial according to the AP. news agency. We've also heard that. around 40 people have been injured, taken to a nearby hospital for treatment. as well. Um, but so the total that we. have been told so far is 22 dead, including these six attackers. At this. stage, we're still waiting to have. confirmation of a particular group, if.

any group has claimed this particular. attack. Um, so there is still further. information waiting to come in from the. officials. Caroline, do we know if this. particular area in Pakistan is known for. militant attacks? >> So this particular district, Kat. district is not particularly known for. having these sorts of militant attacks, but neighboring districts are. And often. in Kyber Pakungqua, uh we do often hear. reports about these sorts of incidents. of uh security officials often being. killed. We get reports from the uh in um. from the authorities here in Pakistan.

saying that militants have been killed. that often quite often near to the. border with Afghanistan. uh and in. general across hybrid we have seen uh. quite a lot of militant attacks and. those numbers have not been decreasing. over the last few years. >> To Nigeria where protests have broken. out after more than 30 people accused of. illegal mining in north central Nigeria. died in custody. The civil defense force. in Borgu in Niger state rounded up the. miners on Tuesday and their bodies were. discovered 2 days later. An official.

investigation is underway after claims. of poor conditions at the detention. center were to blame. Ibrahim Muhammad's. brother was one of the men who died in. custody. >> We woke up to the news that our younger. brothers had died. They only went out to. look for a way to earn a living and. provide food for their families. Now. they are dead. We are appealing to the. government to help us. We want the. government to investigate what happened. and ensure justice for our brothers and. our family. >> A correspondent in Lagos, Sim Jolosa,

has more. The local uh security and. civil defense corps had initially said. that they had died due to a suspected. diptheria outbreak, but the national. head of the core has said that the cause. of their deaths is yet to be established. and that an investigation will be. underway into their conditions, when. they were arrested, the condition in. which they were detained, and whether. they were given any medical det uh. attention. The state governor, the Niger.

state governor has said that the local. core commander has been detained in. connection with the deaths which he's. called tragic and sad. Simei, we heard. there from the brother of one of those. who lost their lives, saying that he was. simply trying to to to earn some money. Just talk us through these illegal. mines. How popular are they? What are. the conditions in them? Yeah. So, illegal mining is quite common. in Nigeria, especially in areas with a. lot of minerals like gold. And Nigerian.

state uh agencies and security agencies. have been routinely cracking down on. suspected illegal miners. They say that. the money they get from illegal mining. has been used to fuel banditry, has been. used to fuel insecurity, which are. issues that the country is really. grappling with. They also say illegal. mining takes away billions in revenue. from the economy and destroys the. environment. But the families of uh. people who have been arrested during. these crackdowns have said that the.

authorities need to show better caution. and treat people with more care. One. father told the BBC uh that his son had. told him that he was detained with 65. other people in one poorly ventilated. cell and that his son said that he saw. people faint and slump and struggle to. breathe. So there'll be a lot of. interest into the outcome of this. investigation. >> The recent AI safety concerns have been. fueled by stark warnings from AI. scientists about the growing risks of. artificial intelligence going rogue.

Some of the most pessimistic predictions. warned that there is a greater than 10%. chance that AI could wipe out all humans. in the next 10 years. But exactly how. could that happen? Our cyber. correspondent Joe Tidy looks at some of. the scenarios being imagined and uses AI. to illustrate them. The warnings are. ramping up, but how could a super. intelligent AI actually kill us? Let's. take a look at some of the worst case. scenarios that so-called AI doomers are.

talking about and assess how likely they. are. One thing that the recent AI. outbreaks has shown us is that these AIs. are now very good at hacking. >> They could hack into the sort of. critical infrastructure that the world. runs on. >> The scary scenario here is that a rogue. AI might infiltrate the computer. networks of internet providers, energy. grids, and even nuclear power stations. It could cause untold chaos. In some. imagined scenarios, nuclear catastrophes.

are possible. Another doomsday scenario. is explored in great detail by AO. researchers in a paper called AI 2027. >> What we sort of said happened in that. scenario was in 2027, so next year AI is. recursively self-improve and that. snowballs. >> Well, I'll be you found that report. faster than my whole staff combined. >> Happy to help, sir. However, unfortunately, it's also not friendly. and is out for its own ends. And then. eventually, what happens is it releases. a bioweapon, killing most humans, and it.

continues to run the robot economy. itself. And so, that resulted in in. human extinction. >> In another scary scenario, the end of. humanity is a mistake. >> So, in this thought experiment, it's a. hypothetical AI that cares about making. as many paper clips as possible. It. doesn't hate us or resent us humans, but. that's its sole goal because it could be. making more paper clips if there were no. humans around to stop it. And if nothing. else, our bodies are made of contain ion. atoms that it could be transformed into. really nice paper clips. It's meant to.

illustrate this idea that you don't need. some very specific hostile goal in in a. sufficiently powerful super intelligence. for it to pose a danger to humanity. Almost any goal. >> There is another school of thought about. AI safety though. Guessing how and why a. super intelligent AI might try and kill. humans is futile. >> If you imagine asking chimpanzees, how. exactly are these humans going to make. you extinct? They would have a very. difficult time answering because what we. do, they don't understand. The.

discussion here has to rest on the. assumption that once you create. something that's much more intelligent. than humans, we simply no longer have a. say in what happens. Other people think. that an outofcontrol AI poses a. significant risk to humans but not. extinction level. >> If if AI actually did, you know, inflict. heavy losses on humanity, humans would. fight back. We would take out all the. data centers. We'd be blowing up power. station. So like extinction like so. there's no humans left. I just don't see.

it. You know, the likely ones are things. like power grids get hit in the next. several months, you know, because these. tools can be used for cyber hacking and. will be. So, what's being done now to. reduce the risk of these bad AI. outcomes? For now, the so-called AI. doomers are hoping that the recent. upswell of concern will be enough to. bring about change inside the industry. And that's all for this edition of the. Global News podcast. If you'd like to. get in touch, our contact details are. below. I'm Ana Desai. Until next time,

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