JAMES CHARLES CAN’T IGNORE US + JACK DOHERTY UPDATES & JUSTICE FOR WENDY ORTIZ! | #35 | Bangin' Out

Welcome back to the Bangin' Out podcast. >> [ __ ] is wrong with the cameras? >> They look terrible. Dude, where the [ __ ]. is John? >> This one's not even lined up with. Oh my god. >> Where's John? Is Emma back there at. least? Yeah, sorry guys. We have a Emma. running the cameras right now. >> Where'd John go? Where'd John go? >> Where's John? Uh he's uh on a ba- bathroom break. >> A bathroom break? Bro. >> little bit We're we're covering for him. here. We we got this. Dude, I Don't. worry guys. We won't let you [laughter]. down.

No, this is not funny. Breaking my. heart. >> to fight him. I want to do a boxing. match against John. Can I do that? Can. we set that up? >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Happy holidays, John. Merry Christmas. BANGIN' OUT! WELCOME BACK to the Bangin' Out podcast. I'm your host Superman, super super. super this Jay. And I'm your host. K. >> [laughter]. >> I like how you switch it up and I keep. it the same. Yeah, I I don't know. I'm. trying to just get better at rhyming.

Mhm. Yes, lord. >> [laughter]. >> So uh last week we did an episode with. Ethan Brad. No, I actually woke up on. the wrong side of the bed this morning. Why? >> About this. Yeah, I mean well the episode came out. today. Mhm. Well, at the time we're. filming this and I think um. you know, it's crazy because James. Charles is now posting like everything's. normal, but I think he wasn't expecting. us to probably drop this video today. Yeah, and dude Well, it makes me so mad.

is yesterday before this episode. dropped, but like Ethan's video has I. think only been out for like a week and. it has like 15 million views, like over. a million likes, all this. And then I'm. scrolling on my free page and James pops. up and he's literally acting like. everything's normal. Like everything's. normal, everything's funny, everything's. cute and guess what the comments were. What? Well, is he actually funny? >> Why is he actually funny? >> bro. I wish we could speak I I almost wish.

this episode came out like last week so. we would like have like We don't know. how our episode that talking about James. and the Ethan stuff is like being. perceived yet. Yeah, we don't know if. he's going to react. We don't know. Would you guys like to pour into the. comments? We could. We could look at some of the. comments. >> Let's check out the early reception. Yeah, okay. We could check out. >> by the time this comes out maybe James. responded to us. >> Maybe he has an apology video already. Maybe [laughter] we're both blocked on. everything. I mean, it's very positive, I think.

People are saying it's great that this. podcast is a safe place for people like. Ethan to speak. What is good. Can't wait. for this to go viral again. We. apparently are getting DMs too from. people who have similar stories with. James too. Yeah, it seems like more. people are. >> coming out. >> Yeah, which is always good, you know. Um. and uh yeah. What's your theory on how. like what's going to happen by the time. this comes out? I think it's How has he dealt with every. other controversy? Do you think he will.

have responded to this? I don't think so. I would probably say. he doesn't respond. What do you think, Richie? I think he's seen it a million. thousand percent. I think his team is. working overtime right now to make sure. damage control is done, >> [laughter]. >> but a response? No, I think that'd make. things a little too real for him. I. think he's going to avoid that. Try to. limit the amount of replying he does. I. saw like a Tik Tok yesterday where it. was like um.

A-list celebrities when they get like. canceled. and it's like everyone's just like, "Oh. my gosh, what a monster." And then then. it's like James Charles when he gets. canceled and they're like. "Oh, that's terrible." And then like 5. seconds later, "Why is he actually funny. though?". >> [laughter]. >> Thank you guys for bringing this to. attention. Yeah. Wow. >> Wow, that's a good. That's a good comment right there. Yeah, I know when I get home I think I'm going. to be like, "Guys, this is no longer a.

rumor. This is no I I went on Snapchat. for like 10 minutes this morning and I. was like, "I hope you guys know like. this isn't a drama anymore. This isn't a. controversy. This isn't a Did he? Did he. not? I don't know. We'll see." Like. that's not what this [ __ ] is anymore. Like genuinely this isn't a debate. Like. there's no like There's There's a lot. wrong There's no right side to this. Like it's purely just one side. There's. no right or wrong side. It's facts. Can't make a quick buck without milking. James Charles, I see.

Um no, maybe it's just like bringing. awareness to a terrible [ __ ] person. >> THAT'S THE ISSUE! AND IT GIVES ME ANGER. ISSUES. It gives me anger issues. That is. actually a That's why it's like so scary. to talk out about him because it's like. there's people like that that make you. like second guess Yeah. >> everything. It's like I know what I'm. saying is facts. I know what I'm saying. is the right thing to do, but then it's. like, "Oh, but I am talking about him a. lot.". >> Yeah. It's like what Taylor Swift said. when it was like, "I wouldn't have to.

write shitty songs about people if they. didn't do shitty things.". Yes, lord. >> [laughter]. >> My favorite bit that Jacob has done. >> It's just a new thing, man. What is it? Is this a new trend? What's. happening with the snap? Maybe it'll be. a new trend. It's just [laughter] It's. just an agreement. I'm in agreement.

And also I saw that the H3 podcast also. talked about this, so shout out to them. I think they they try to stand up for. for good. Mhm. >> Um and so um that's good. I saw a clip. on Tik Tok today of Ethan Klein talking. about it. So maybe maybe we start a wave. of people actually talking about it cuz. I think this one was on track to get. pushed under the rug, but I think this. just reopened it. It's kind of like he. tried to stitch up the wound and we just. went right back in and it's getting.

attention, the attention it deserves. And so now I think um we'll see how he. chooses to handle it. >> #notdraggingit. Oh, also my hair is not dyed. I have a. wig on. Let's talk about that. I'm. addicted to wigs. You said he spent like. a thousand dollars on that wig. >> I'm going to explain to you what. happened. I have a photo shoot tomorrow. and it's my first photo shoot ever. outside of Spencer's for my birthday and. I was like, "I want to do something. fun." So I was like, "Let me get a black. wig, but not off of Amazon." And so I. texted one of my friends Dows who's one. of the most bougie people I've ever met.

in my life and I He has great wigs, but. I should have known that they would be. really expensive. So he's like, "Oh, go. to LA Hair Boss." And I was like, "Fuck. yeah, I'll I'll be there." And I go. there. I'm thinking 400 bucks. I pick up. this wig and I'm like, "I'll take it.". Like, "Yeah, it's perfect." And they go, "Okay, 1330." I go. Like thirteen dollars? >> like. 1300. She goes, "Yeah.". >> Okay, okay. Hair by Chrissy. Yeah. >> I go. I go. "Oh." And I was like, "Do you have any. cheaper ones?" They like bring me.

upstairs. They're like, "Not like what. you're looking for. We have one with. bangs." And it's like And I was like, "No, I think I'll pass.". So I go to walk out and she's like The. owner was like, "We'll take five hundred. dollars off right now." So what? They'll. just take five hundred dollars off? >> take five hundred dollars off." So then. I was like, "Hmm." So then I I paid nine. hundred and ten dollars for this wig, so. I'm going to wear it as much as I can. Oh, yeah. Is it human hair? Yeah. I was going to say Google said a. thousand dollars for human hair. Wait, so that's human That's someone else's. hair? Yeah, same guys. My hair that I.

have on all the time, my blonde hair is. human hair. My hair extensions. >> Wait, so Wait, your regular hair isn't. your real hair? >> No, all my hair is fake. Like the blonde. >> hair? Yeah. You're just wearing that. around? I got it sewn into my [laughter]. head. That was like. What What's that movie where he shaves. off the skin and you wear Texas Chainsaw. Massacre. That's perfect. It's Ed. >> Ed Gein. Ed Gein. Ed Gein. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's If you get synthetic. hair, it'll last a week. You need real. Feel it. Feel it. No, just Whose hair is this? I don't.

know. It's washed. Feel it. It feels. real. You washed it? They did. It's It's. a wig. Feel it. It does Wait, that's weird. >> Yeah, it's real human hair. Did you guys. not know that's how like. >> know that. I didn't know that. Wigs, hair extensions, all of it. It's. human hair. But where do they get it? People donate their hair. Like when they get their hair cut? >> Yeah, but then I don't know how that. many people are donating their hair for. wigs. So I don't know. Maybe they're. scalping dead people. I don't know.

I don't know how they Can we look that. up? Can we look that up? Can we look up how they get so much hair. for real human hair wigs? Cuz Yeah, that's a good question. >> new hair extensions every 6 months and I. don't know where that hair is coming. from. Well, I hope that they're not. getting this unethically cuz now I feel. like a piece of [ __ ] to have my little. wig. No. What are blood diamonds? Blood hair? >> [laughter]. >> Little blood hair? Is this. I'm going to catch it on fire.

No, I'm sure it's not that bad. Also, I'm sure like there's so many bald. people out there who need that stuff, you know? People I I guess it makes. sense it's real hair. >> I'm not bald though, so I'm just like. taking from the bald [laughter] people. Whose hair is that? If this is your hair, slide up right. now. Comment down below. [laughter]. Oh god. >> This That This is a cancelable Is this. bad? No. I'm just I'm wondering where my. We're learning a lot here about hair.

I have hair from a 28-year-old organ. donor. Aw. I hope that this is not hair taken. >> everyone be real? Doesn't everyone in. the industry do this? I have never met a a single person who. has not owned a wig. A lot of people in. the in this industry are wearing wigs. Wigs, hair extensions. I mean, everybody. I've never. >> that make everyone I think everyone. wears wigs. I think this is going to be. something they're going to say that on. being stupid because I we should have. known this. Like I I think. it maybe it's common sense that it's. real hair. It seems like everyone else.

in the room knew. So maybe it's not. that. Oh, sometimes it comes from hair. waste at salons. >> [laughter]. >> Sometimes chopping my hair off, they. could just wipe it in the trash and then. put it on a wig. >> And then make money. Yeah, isn't there DNA in hair? Yeah, can. they clone me? Oh my gosh. Guys, am I getting stressed the [ __ ]. out? >> Yes. Yes. What if you commit a crime and. then somebody else's DNA from the hair. is. >> [laughter]. >> crime scene. I have so MANY QUESTIONS.

>> OH. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. You just start. wearing a wigs to crime. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, I'm getting stressed out. Louie Vice 2.0. >> [laughter]. >> I just ripped the wig off. What if the. Yeah. What if that person has lice? That. is so true. >> [laughter]. >> Maybe. Yeah. But I love I love I love Do. you have a wig? Do you have a wig? >> Oh my god. Do you plan on wearing a wig? I don't know what that is.

Do you have a wig? Do you plan on. wearing a wig? Yeah, now he's just off track. I don't know this clip. >> It's really funny. You should put your. headphones watch it. >> In the photo shoots you do with Vogue. magazine and Cosmopolitan and. Entertainment Weekly Time magazine your. your hair. >> I have seen this. Yeah. uh from short to long Do you wear wigs?

Uh no, I do not. Have you worn wigs? No, I have not. Will you wear wigs? Maybe. When will you wear wigs? >> [laughter]. >> So I think the context for that is. that's his co-star. They both star in. the movie, but I don't think they can. see. >> Yeah. the interview. So I think that his. co-star is pranking him as an. interviewer. asking him really stupid. questions. And then they're playing the. audio. What audio? Wait, you said they weren't.

in the same room? Oh, yeah. So it's. probably behind a wall or something. I I. don't know exactly. I don't know if it's. like a confessional type Do you have a. wig? That's crazy cuz he laughed. So he was. reacting to his voice at least. But he's. doing an accent, too. So I don't think. he knows that it's his friend in there. >> Okay. Okay. Well, can we look up if you could clone. people with their hair? Wow, everyone's. going to be like these stupid [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, they do already. It's going to be. worse this time. >> two, we're freaking geniuses over here,

all right? They're not really. >> We all graduated Harvard. >> handle our brain waves. That's what they. think. I dropped out of Harvard. I think the. comments got to get educated. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I'm kidding. I love you guys. Unless you listen to this podcast, then. you're educated as [ __ ] Oh yeah, then. you're a genius. >> If you listen to this, you're like. brain power. >> If you spend an hour with us, yeah. You. spend an hour with us, you're going to. get smarter. >> Yeah, that's facts. I I love the fact. that I ask the questions for every time. we do quizzes cuz I don't know either. I. just ask the questions. [laughter].

Can [snorts] you clone people with their. with hair? I don't think you could clone people in. general. No. Not in 2025, but it's almost 2026. It. says um you can't do with human hair. alone. So maybe if you had the hair and. something else. >> think we could clone humans. They cloned. animals one time. Yeah, aren't they. bringing like dogs back to life now? Thank god. Thank god. >> They're They're taking animals out of. extinction, too. Yeah, mammoths. The.

woolly mammoth. Mammoth. I'd clone my dog. And the dire wolf. Please, no. >> [laughter]. >> I'd clone I'd clone my little dog. He's. still alive. Well, whenever he's not. alive I'd clone him. But do you have to. clone them while they're alive or while. they die after they die? Well, what if. you just cloned him and you had like. five of them running around? And they all do the exact same thing at. the same time. Really? Different brains. It's like Mickey 17. I. don't know what that is. It's a movie. Imagine 10 different Leos in my house.

I'd be so happy. I would feel really weird about that. I'd [snorts] feel really weird about. that. Yeah. Well. we learned a lot about hair here. We. did. So yeah, it's a wig. I I think I think instead of just dying. my hair black, I'm just going to wear. this wig whenever I have the itch. Might make your hair itch more. It is. kind of itching right now. >> [laughter]. >> It is kind of itchy. Itchy. Uh.

There was just the Streamer Awards. Oh. my god, and I can't stop cringing every. time I watch it. Like this is probably. the cringiest like. Like I can't. It It makes me cringe. Yeah, it seems like it was kind of a. disaster, Richie. What What are we. looking at over here? I think that's the. best organized event we've had since. Fire Festival. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> Should we watch some clips? So there was. a Kai Cenat Diddy joke. Oh god. Everyone.

knows you broke the record for the most. expensive haircut and the least. educational university. So congratulations to you. Oh, he's not. even laughing. Um congrats on your new. documentary with 50 Cent. That was That. was you, right? She's the only one laughing. Everybody's yelling at her. If you all going to be on THE MIC, I'M.

GOING TO TURN THIS MIC I'M GOING TO TURN. THIS [ __ ] OFF. TURN this [ __ ] off. If. you all going to be on the mic making. jokes, at least let it be funny. IF YOU ALL GOING TO BE ON THE MIC MAKING. JOKES, AT LEAST LET IT BE FUNNY. Have a good night. Yeah, that one missed the mark. Oh my. god, and he didn't even laugh. Nobody. laughed. Everybody's mad and. Yeah, um that was bad. I'm like can't. It makes you nauseous. Then there was a joke about Is this the.

Hasan? Hasan is here. Is that a vibration remote in your. pocket or are you just excited to be. here? I'll put it on you later. See, this one's a little bit like they. both kind of I was going to say at least. he made a jab back. Like it feels. uncomfor I I imagine that who was a fan. fan? I imagine that she was given like a. script or something and it's like these. are the jokes that you said. Like that's. how most of award shows go. It's also.

pre-planned. Like I imagine with Hasan. maybe they had more of a back and forth. Maybe his joke was written, too. But. it's weird. It's just so uncomfortable. It feels. like everyone's not in the loop. Yeah. At the Oscars, you'll see like like. people's moms will be involved in skits. and stuff like that. Like they're so. random. Like everyone's lightly involved. and the jokes make sense and it's. bounced back and it's all more pre. >> friendly and a little bit cozy each. other. This seems like they're trying to. like call people out or make jabs or. like make people uncomfortable.

Yeah, roast them. But a little bit more than roasting. Like I don't know. Kind of a crazy claim. to just call somebody Diddy. So it's just a bit online? >> It's a bit online. His mom Kai's mom has. made the joke. So that's why I feel like. like that joke's not bad. It's just this. is a stranger to a stranger. And if you. don't know about that joke, then it. could come across very like And he looks. uncomfortable, too. He's cringing. Yeah. Like you know that it's not that. friendly banter. You're not his mom. You. can't make that joke. Yeah. And also who.

wants to be compared to Diddy in front. of like the entire All your peers and. like Yeah, like nobody wants that. And. also like even the Hasan joke cuz cuz. everybody knows what Hasan did was like. he got canceled for that. But even when. she made that joke, nobody laughed. Like. it's so uncomfortable. And Hasan's thing. was that he put a shock collar on his. dog. And then. Like. >> People saw it on stream or something. Um. yeah, the Hasan thing comes from he had.

a shock collar on his dog and then when. his chat called it out, they were like. he was like, "No, it's a vibration. collar. Like not that big of a deal." Uh. it was kind of a big deal. >> between a vibration collar and a shock. collar for an animal? One is electric. Yeah, so imagine you wouldn't want. What's a vibe like Jacob, like you. wouldn't It's just like is it like a. little like a oh hey, come here like a. little buzz or like a like a text. message, you know what I mean? It's. something to tell you like, "Oh, I got. to turn around." Yeah. electrical shock. where YOU'RE LIKE, "OH, FUCK." YEAH. You. wouldn't want an electrical shock. vibrator. You'd want a vibrating.

vibrator. >> [laughter]. >> You would know. You would know real. quick if it was vibrations or. electricity going on your [ __ ] Pop the. [ __ ]. Zap the [ __ ] Zap it. Zap the [ __ ] I. bet you that's some type of therapy. somewhere to get your clitoris zapped. >> [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Um there's more clips. Uh Wendy Ortiz was there. Yeah, your. wife. She apparently lost all the all of. the awards that she was nominated for. That really hurts my heart. crazy to me.

That hurts my heart. No, it makes no. sense to me cuz I was literally my whole. for you page was like I saw teachers. being like your school assignment today. is to vote for Wendy Ortiz. Like it was. such a thing. Like people are like vote. for Wendy. And the fact that she didn't. win is kind of crazy. >> fans went hard for her. I remember when. we were even like clips would get posted. from this podcast. of us talking about her. All the. comments would be like it would be like. a a sales pitch for why you should vote. for Wendy in every video. >> I'm shocked that who won the streamer.

for female best female? I don't know. Sinnah? Okay. Okay. And that was fan voted or was there. somebody Was there like a team of people. that voted? Was it like whoever got the most votes? >> Yeah, it was it was fair. I'm I am very. surprised Wendy got so many votes. I. feel like well over 100,000. I don't know. I just I know my whole for. you page is people like voting for her. and videos with like 500,000 likes and. every single comment being like, "I.

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stories. That's bangingout.com. Become a member. Become. >> Do better. Become a bankster today. >> [laughter]. >> This message is sponsored by the. Illuminati. Banging it out. Oh, that's a. bummer cuz I think, you know, you would. think she'd win one. She's so big. >> Yeah. She had a stream with Ice Spice today. Really? >> Yes. She's definitely like one of the. biggest streamers and I think she just. started this year. She has more followers than Sinna.

by two times. Hmm. I wonder. And um yeah, I think she just started. streaming this year. That's what I read. somewhere. Um so, she really had a huge year. I. mean, award or not, you know, you got to. give it to them. They all had a great. year. So, Yeah. >> Congratulations. >> Yeah, I don't think it was like a. devastating thing for her. I'm sure she. went home and at the end of the day, I'm. sure she's still proud and she's. supporting her family and and that's. that's a win. That's my thing. If I was. a like nominated for any award, I.

actually would not give a [ __ ] if I. didn't win cuz the fact that you're. nominated shows that you're so cool. So, like I genuinely would not like if I got. nominated for TikTok award or whatever. and I lost, I ain't mad. >> I got nominated for a Kids' Choice Award. one time. >> That's crazy. >> I lost it, but. I'm still proud of that. Yeah, that's. like insane. I'd put that in my diary. >> it was for. Well, but if you won, you would have. gotten slimed. That would have sucked. That would have been so cool. >> I don't want to be slimed. Like that. [ __ ] all up in your hair. >> I heard it's warm. Ew. So, it like no,

because I think when you watch it, don't. you kind of think like, "Oh, what if. it's cold?". >> Yeah. >> would be so uncomfortable, but if it's. really warm, you might just be like, "Okay, this is weird, but at least I'm. not like shivering.". >> But then do you sit there for the rest. of the event covered in slime? No, I'm. sure there's like. a green room and stuff where you could. shower off, change back. And I'm sure. you kind of know maybe that you're going. to get slimed. I don't know. I haven't. I don't know. I I I don't I don't think. I'd ever want slime all over me. I'd be.

pretty upset about it. >> find out. Yeah, what was it? Kids'. Choice Award or was it a People's Choice. Award? Oh, I performed I performed at the Kids'. Choice Awards. >> What the [ __ ] In 2017? Yeah, on the. carpet. It wasn't like for the actual. show. It was like on the carpet. Um. that was fun. Wait. Can we look up the AI or whatever. Oh. Favorite viral music artist. Who ended up winning? Yeah, who won.

that? Can we find that? What year was. it? 2017? I don't even remember, but I was there. It was fun. I remember I didn't even. think I was going to win. I'm not going. to lie. Dude. >> Jo Jo oh MY GOD. >> NO. NO. THAT'S WHERE IT ALL STARTED. NO. WHAT? OH MY GOSH. OF COURSE. Who else would it. have been? I should have known. [laughter]. How did I not remember that? Damn. Uh that that does not help our beef.

>> [snorts]. >> Oh, but you know, yeah. No, that that. was a bummer. That was a bummer. Oh, there was Johnny. Orlando, MattyB, Tiffany. Alvord. I don't I don't think MattyB went that. year. I'm not going to lie. I didn't. meet him. I've never met him in person, but Dude. >> Yeah, what a crazy time. Dude. >> You know, MattyB looks like a grown. adult now. I don't remember him. >> Like look up look up dude. Look like. facial hair. Like.

bro looks like a full-on adult. Woah. What? >> like You getting excited over there? >> he knows how to fix a tire. >> [laughter]. >> That's crazy. He knows how to fix a tire? What is that. supposed to mean? Like he just looks. like a little musty. >> He looks like a mechanic like not a. mechanic, but like I feel like he would. just like if your car is making a weird. noise, he knows exactly where it's. coming from. >> [laughter]. >> He knows exactly where it's coming from.

That's funny. Um all right, what else do we have? >> God, I hate the Streamer Awards. I was. so cringey and I feel bad for the girl. who's given that script because I just. know she was forced to say all that and. I feel bad for everybody that had the. jokes made at them. That's just so. uncomfortable. Yeah, he's still making music. MattyB. Hmm. Hmm. >> Oh, what was the clip? There's also a. clip of um Rakai. >> Oh, I hate this one. Um Oh, yes. Where I. think what's the She like made some.

really weird I saw this on my for you. page. She like made a really weird joke. about Rakai stealing stuff. He stole on. stream. >> [snorts]. >> Question. Yo. What's the coolest thing you've ever. stolen? Oh god. But but the guy explaining it did say. that there was a stream or something. Uh-huh. >> before. Like before that clip plays, the. guy in this video said something about. like it was a reference. >> award show. Maybe Tiyo knew this before. what he did because they're pretty.

close, but like I said, this doesn't. justify him getting mad over a little. joke. This wasn't her target Tiyo. What. happened at the award show was QT. Cinderella made a joke about Rakai. stealing, which we talked about in my. last video on Nina Lynn. Rakai stole. from a store and got banned on Twitch. Rakai stole these flowers, gave it to a. woman, and she walked out with them, and. she made a stealing joke because this. was pretty recent. And a lot of people. took this as Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, So, that's not bad either. That that's. definitely pre-written. It's like I. think these were just Yeah. >> weird and it comes strange from a random.

person. It's like the the. comfortability's not there and it's just. uncomfortable atmosphere. Mhm. If that. clip's taken out of context and people. don't know the backstory, it could look. like something it's not, but I think she. was actually referencing the um. the stream I guess where he stole. flowers and gave them to somebody and. then they walked out of the store with. them. Same with the Pete Diddy thing. Like there there it's not the joke. itself that's bad. It's just the. uncomfortability of it and then it's. just so cringey. >> And no one's laughing. >> reaction. It's everyone in the room like.

Ah, I I I kind of feel bad for the host. I feel like she was given a. >> they kind of got set up? >> dude. Front lines. She's getting. Yeah. Yeah. Like you think they are. reading off a teleprompter? They're reading off something, yeah. Like they've been told kind of what to. say. >> that's how all those award shows go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like they. just thought of it in the moment. No, it's so scripted. >> I hate it. I hate it all. I hate it all. I hate it all. And it was like that is. the worst award. >> to find the writers for the show then. We got to find who wrote these. Like who.

who wrote the. the script I guess for the Streamer. Awards cuz that's who really is more at. fault than the announcers or the hosts. I would have to be so obliterately drunk. to host something like that. I feel like. we'll get asked one year to host like a. Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards. >> I would love to host something like. that. I feel like podcast hosts get. asked, right? Can we do the Banging Out. Award? Ooh. >> Banging Out Awards. That's what uh. Cancel did at the end of like um every.

year. We should have done this. They do. like a Cancel Awards of like favorite. guest, least favorite guest, craziest. thing we've said this year. And it was. like you give an award to like the. people that. >> Maybe we could do it on our one-year. anniversary. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, definitely do that. Oh, they did that on their one year. Yeah. Yeah. we'll do that. When it's. like exactly the Wednesday that would be. 1 year, I think it's our 52nd episode. >> Something like that. Something like. that. We could do like a 30-minute. segment that's like the awards. Dude, we. have to dress up really like Like in. suits and stuff. Like a dress, yeah.

And we could bring in a little bit of a. live audience. Oh, yeah. And like yeah, write a script. That. would be really. >> my favorite episodes that they would do. were the canceled awards. They're so. entertaining. Yeah, that would be cool. Favorite guest, top fan, top editor, top. clipper, top. I don't know. Best guest, worst guest, craziest drama this year. >> Yeah. I like getting the fans involved, too. Yeah, that would be cool. Hell yeah. Well, the Streamy Awards. looked like they were a disaster. >> That was horrible. Um Cringiest [ __ ]. I've ever seen. So, what is this person's name? Nikocado.

>> Yeah, Nikocado. Niko Nikocado Avocado? Nikocado Avocado? Begging for a girlfriend online? >> He's been begging on Facebook for a. girlfriend. If you don't remember. Nikocado Avocado, he's the guy that was. Hey, I used to do that [ __ ] too. Can I be. your puppy? Can you know, like with the. I think his is a little rougher than. that, Jacob. >> [laughter]. >> Really? Can I be your puppy? I wouldn't. rush to his defense before you see it. >> No, no, I'm just saying I did that when. I was 13. Like I'd be like, "Will you be. my girlfriend?". I think his is a little rougher.

>> Oh, it's bad? I don't know. Let's check it out. But. first, I'm just going to show you guys. Nikocado I know who this is. Okay. But. didn't he used to be a little bit. bigger? Yeah, then he lost a bunch of. weight. >> to be a big boy. >> he then he came back it was like, "Never. let them know your next move." Or. something Like I'm always two steps. ahead or something like that. He looks healthier. >> Nikocado Avocado mogs. in new selfie. >> [laughter and snorts]. >> Where does it say that? I made it up. That's a headline right there. Nikocado. [laughter]. mogs.

>> Um but So, what did he do? Is it really. bad? Let's check it out. Okay. Okay. Richie, can you read it to us? Is this real? This is a real Facebook post. At the. time it was 22 hours ago, but today it's. like sometime ago, like early last week. >> Okay. Nikocado looking for a girlfriend. Yes, really. Someone to snuggle with, watch shows, Netflix and. or just hanging out to laugh at how. weird life can be. Some days being single feels like.

freedom and other days, well, it hit me. now just how much I'd love to have a. partner in crime. Wait, didn't he used. to have a husband? I. cannot confirm that. Is Nikocado. >> Yeah, I kind of remember that, too. Bisexual king. Yes, he was. He was. He was married. >> Okay. To Orlin. >> Orlin Holmes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Black. queen, okay. >> Well, they had a wee break up video. >> [laughter]. >> We made a Tik Tok one time making fun of.

people. >> Yeah, we did. Like every YouTube couple. when they break up. >> in 2022-ish. Okay. And but so now he's looking for a. girlfriend. Life is fun in your own, but it's even. better when you have someone to share. the random quiet and silly moments with. I'm also so tired of using my camera. stand lol and anytime a friend comes. over asking them to record me would be. great to have a to do it with a. girlfriend. If I meet the right person, I hope he's funny, curious, loves lazy.

mornings as much as I do. Bro, download. Hinge. Yeah, like You would love it. Life should have a mix of deep talks, ridiculous jokes, and completely. comfortable just chilling together. moments. And my girlfriend needs to love. my scars and find them attractive. Find. them wicked cool and awesome. Or no, find them wicked and cool. Find them. interesting and hot. Ladies, which pick. is your favorite? And then he drops. these. Oh. He's just like Look, I'm all for I'm all. for him saying he wants to be loved.

unconditionally and if everyone's got. like scars and stuff you know, maybe. But like, you know, you want someone who. doesn't like find that like a turn off. or something. >> Isn't that like the weirdest way to ask. for a girlfriend? >> It's the weirdest I was about to get. there. Aside from that, I completely. agree with that, but the pictures, the. how descriptive it is. >> It being on Facebook Like that's the. weirdest thing I've ever seen in my. life. That should go on like OnlyFans or. something. That's terrifying. These are both so. scary. Like do you think he's You think.

You think anybody's like reached out to. him yet? I don't think we should make it our. mission on Bangin' Out to find this man. love. >> [laughter]. >> No, I'm I'm just saying Not that wasn't. my mission. And you can put that picture. away now. Um I think I'm just going to keep it on. the screen. No, [laughter] please don't. I'm sure you guys want that for later, right? >> No, no. No? No. Jacob, I'm going to send. that to you personally. [laughter]. Okay, thank you. I wonder if he like got banned on dating. apps or something, so now he's just like. resorting to Facebook. Like I was just.

going to say he would love it on Hinge. Yeah, hop on Raya. What is he doing? And. I think he just wants a girlfriend. Maybe he's just really lonely. Yeah. And. like he's like, "My last resort right. now is making a Facebook." I'm not going. to lie, it's a very odd way to do it, but. >> That That's like That's not even a You. guys want me to pull the picture up. again? No, thanks. >> [laughter]. >> What's that thing? FarmersOnly.com? What does that mean? FarmersOnly.com. Yeah, that's where you find love. What? >> Jacob, you never been on FarmersOnly? Nope. Really? You have a profile? Of. course. >> Let's see it. FarmersOnly.com.

>> What is FarmersOnly? It's only farmers? >> Farmers, yeah. Yeah, it's just farmers. Dude, that's where you find somebody. with a lot of land. Yeah. Wait, so do. farmers make profiles? Yeah. >> Or do people that want farmers? Let's. make one. Dude. Dude, this is where I. should have been looking instead of. Tennessee, Nashville. Just hop on. FarmersOnly.com. Find me a man with some. land. Yeah. [screaming] LET ME GET ON. YOUR OLD TRACTOR. LET ME RIDE ON YOUR. OLD TRACTOR. How's Hinge going for you? It's going good. I changed my settings. back to normal. Off of MILF mode? >> Yeah.

I'm having a lot more luck. Really? Mhm. That's good. Clown dating? What? Huh? Dude, what? >> [laughter]. >> Dude, this is the site I've been looking. for. >> Yeah, dude. Dude, you would love it on. there. >> Dude, I've been looking for clowns like. me. Dude, you would love it. Oh my gosh, that would be great. You. guys could go to the circus together. >> [laughter]. >> Amish dating.

Oh, diaper mates. >> like What is Diaper Mates? That's for. like the people that like to be babies. I just saw a video of a guy who liked to. be a baby. He was like mid-40s, he's. married, and he like sucks on a pacifier. and he goes into his little crib and he. likes to be tucked in before bed. And um. yeah. Listen, I know that you listen and. don't judge, but I listen and judge. Richie, it was you. >> [laughter]. >> Richie, we all know. >> you find my secret account?

>> [laughter]. >> No, no. Furry? Furry mate. >> Okay. What is What is up with the whole furry? Herpes fish. Herpes You know what? I. like that so then they don't spread it. to other people. No, I think that's a. type of fish. Herpes dating site for people with. herpes. Positive singles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Positive singles for when you're. Can you imagine being Yo, could you. imagine being in the advertisement for. that website and then you actually don't. have anything, but then everyone just.

like is like doesn't want to like. >> Can I say I love that. I love the. positive singles because it keeps other. people safe. Like I think if you're if. you have HIV or herpes or something. around that and you're on that website, you're extremely responsible and like. lots of props to you. That's very 100%. Very good thing. I love that. That is. amazing. I agree. For example, we had this friend who was. in a like three, four-year relationship. and she got out of it and went to [ __ ]. She was always like, "Wear condoms. Wear.

condoms. Wear condoms.". Broke up with this guy. One time she. didn't wear a condom, got herpes. Like. literally her first time ever not. wearing a condom, got herpes from this. dude. And I was like, "Oh my god.". That's terrible. >> she has it for life. >> You know, she could like get him. arrested. Oh, yeah. >> tell her. You have to I feel like if you. have something, it's illegal to not tell. people. Yeah, but then he sat there and. he like denied, denied, denied. So then. like he ended up reaching out to. somebody that she knew and so this like. our friend had to warn other women like,

"Hey, he has herpes and he's going to. give you herpes and he won't admit to. it." And like it was a whole thing. Like. there's actual people like that who will. just give you STDs and not care. And. that happened to her and it's really. sad. So. stay on positive singles. >> somebody's whole life up. >> Dude, yeah, cuz you can't get rid of. herpes. You have that for You have to. take medicine for the rest of your life. That's [ __ ] But yeah, this friend. also like just had a baby and she almost. had to have a whole C-section because. Yeah, because the baby can be born with. herpes. >> Yes. All because of this one thoughtless. >> if there's a yeah. All because this one.

dude had herpes and refused to acknow or. to tell her and like just actually up. her whole life. Like it's actually so. insane. Like that's why unprotected sex, even if it's your like whatever. Like, "Oh, I don't want to get preg I don't. want to get it." Like if you are hooking. up with strangers, bro, you need to wear. a condom because your whole life can be. ruined. Like imagine taking medicine every day. for the rest of your life and then. having breakouts on your genitals of. like extremely painful like cysts. almost. Like That doesn't sound.

pleasant. No, like so [ __ ]. So yeah, wrap it up, guys. Wrap it up. One time my dad my boyfriend. when I was like younger. >> [laughter]. >> No, okay, wait. Okay. So my dad Okay, so basically it. had to do with condoms basically. Um my. dad gave me his coat to go like for my. drive. He was like, "This coat was my. dad's. It's good luck." And I was like, "Okay." And so I've been wearing it. around like every day. And then I go.

into the pocket and I pull out [ __ ]. Durex condoms. And I was like, "What the fuck?". Good man. No, it's disgusting. >> What? So you you're promoting unsafe. sex? >> Nope. I actually You know what? And then. one time My dad promotes unsafe sex. There was one time when my dad. >> Why? >> [laughter]. >> My dad went through my boyfriend's car. at the time and like went through his. car and found a box of like Magnum. condoms and I got in so much trouble. And I was like. bro. I was like bro, you're mad that I.

have condoms. Literally bro. >> [laughter]. >> You good bro? Eww, you good bro? Yeah, I'm good bro. Magnums, do you wrap it before you tap. it? Of course. Always. >> [laughter]. >> Stop the cap. >> [laughter]. >> Always. Um, speaking No, no, that's a terrible. segue.

Yo, speaking of. this stuff. >> Wrap it before you tap. >> [laughter]. >> No, that doesn't No, but that's funny. That's. >> That's funny. >> [laughter]. >> Um, next up we talked a couple weeks ago on. a drama episode about Jack Doherty, Piper Rockelle and some other topics. Um, what else did we talk about on that. episode? Uh, David. >> David, let's circle back on some of. those. Are there any updates? Richie, can we look up any updates with Mr. Jack. Doherty? Or what do you call him? Jack.

Doodoos Stan? >> Jack Doodoos Stan. Jack Doodoo. Doodoo. Jack Dooky Stan. No, not the. court. Oh, well, yeah, when is his Okay, so it's January 14th, 2026. >> And so we'll have the update for the new. year. So he had The charges were. possession of the amphetamines, less of. 20 g or less of marijuana, and resisting. an officer without violence, a. first-degree misdemeanor. 20 g or less. What is it? Like uh. What is the limit for how much weed you.

can have on you? And I think in Florida you can't have. any. Okay. But in LA you could ride. around with like Well, I was ounces. >> have an ounce and I was like 20 g. >> you can even fly out of LA with. >> What? >> Yeah. That's the thing. He had over an. ounce. You can? Mhm. That makes so much. sense for why I wasn't arrested when I. accidentally smuggled weed to weed to. Chicago. Yeah. No, I think Can we look. up I think it's up to like I don't think. you can fly with ounces. Maybe it's up. to an ounce out of LAX. To anywhere? I.

think so. No, no, no, obviously no, you. can't fly into like a different country. But if it's to another state that has. like the same Do you remember when. >> allows individuals Oh, yeah. You can. possess up to 28.5 g of marijuana and 8. g of concentrated marijuana for personal. consumption. With the change in state. law. Um, but what does it mean about where. you're flying to? So it has to be but you also have to be. flying to a state where it's also legal. Yeah. I don't think so though because. Well, my friend, I don't know her she.

came to California. She got like. I think she had like 20 carts to like. probably like. an ounce of weed a weed drink put it in. her checked bag and flew back to Florida. with it. Mhm. Unless she just didn't get caught. up. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I've never flown. with like real weed. I I used to fly with like carts. Ugh, I used to get anxiety like flying. with a vape. I got to get so scared. They have bigger.

things to worry about. >> Dude. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> It was so scary. I miss those days when you were like. hiding your vape from your parents and. like. >> [sighs]. >> It was so good days. >> And when they actually used to hit. Dude, like they used to hit. hard. >> [laughter]. >> That's what I miss. >> The Sourin drops. Dude, the smoke shop. that Sam works at now sells them still. Like the the the drops. >> yeah, yeah. Those were insane. Also. Juuls when they made mango pods. Dude.

>> Oh my gosh, or the cucumber Juuls. >> Game changer. Now I'm just, you know, I'm on the Zyns now. >> go to London you can find like flavored. Juul pods there. Really? Yeah, like mango, cucumber, all. of it. I should have got them when. >> just in the US they got banned. >> Yeah. I remember people are probably reselling. them. No, but they're probably all. expired. Yeah, like Wait, can you get. them? >> still making them in Europe. >> bootleg. Or they're bootleg. Oh my gosh. Dude, oh my gosh.

That makes me like sad and want to hit a. Juul. Dude. Oh my gosh. Wow. >> is watering. >> Yeah, no, that's like sad. Like I'm I. haven't felt that type of euphoria in a. long time. >> Dude, I have a friend with a Juul though. and I roast him all the time. I'm like. you got to get with it. It's 2025. >> on like the mint and tobacco one? Ugh, lame dude. Yeah. There was one time when I was dating. Evan. It was like 4th of July and he was. like crashing out about how he didn't.

have a vape. So I had my Uber pull over. and I went into a gas station. I was. like, "Oh, he wants a vape." And I'm. like drunk. So I go and I get a Juul and. I get the. tobacco Juul pods cuz it was the only. thing they had. I bring it back. He's. like, "What the [ __ ] is this?" It's [ __ ]. and throws it out the window. I was. like, "I spent like 70 bucks.". >> Yeah, they're expensive and the tobacco. ones aren't that great. I think people. that are coming off smoking cigarettes. might enjoy them better. But like I got. on nicotine through Juuling. >> Yeah. Like fruit flavors. >> Yeah. Like mango. They used to have.

those one pods. They were like um, circle top and they had like the other. flavors. I used to love those. You know what I'm talking about? Like a. like a mod? Like one of the big. >> Juul pods but they were like a different. They weren't the Juul brand. It was like. Oh yeah, they had like Fruity Pebbles. flavors. >> Yeah, I loved those a lot. Those were. brilliant. You know, it's actually crazy. that we were going to be the first. smoke-free generation and then they were. like, "Aha, if we put like Krispy Kreme. on it." Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> If we make it taste good then yeah.

Nobody in our generation would have been. smoking cigarettes. Like I knew I never. wanted to smoke cigarettes but then I. Juul. I was like, "Oh, I'm a". >> I used to never want to. >> I love a cigarette. Richie, you sick. dog. But also like. Yeah. But they also advertised to kids. Like Juul got sued for it. That's why. they had to remove the flavors. When I. first started Juuling I was probably. like 14 and the advertisements were all. teenagers hitting it. And that's what. they got sued for cuz I was like, "Oh,

it's for people my age.". But then we got those dumbass. commercials where like the metal. monsters after you dare to stop smoking. weed. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, yeah. I hated those dude. It'd. always be some weird like when you rip. the vape this is what's going into. >> Oh yeah, metals are going into. >> [laughter]. >> It stressed me out. That's part of the. things that got me to stop buying vapes. I haven't bought a vape in over a year. >> That's what made me buy more. Yeah. Richie was like. Richie was like, "I want to. go against the grain.".

I was smoking straight cigs until I saw. that commercial and I said, "You know. what? I'm going to vape now.". Metal. >> [laughter]. >> Yes. Damn, okay. So that We went from. Jack Doherty to Juul pods. That's fun. Um, Piper Rockelle, what do we got going on? So Piper was in Miami with Sophie. What. do you think Kayla about Sophie really. like taking her in as like big sis with. the OF? My opinion changes on this every day. because I'm like.

you can't control what somebody's going. to do. You can't control what somebody. wants to do and. I don't I don't know. I don't know. I. don't know because. There's ways to be like, "Oh, I'm I. don't know. I don't know." I actually I. don't know. What's your personal opinion? I. hope that they just have each other's. best interest all the way through. Mhm. And. Yeah, I don't know.

I just I don't know. I see Piper post a. lot of pictures of her crying recently. and I hope it's not like because of like. her regretting what she did. Dude, yeah, that's a new thing actually. She's been. posting her crying a lot. >> Like a lot of pictures on her story like. with tears in her eyes like another day. crying. That's really sad. I know. It. worries me. >> Do you think it could be from this? Like is this not what she wanted to do. and then she was just like, "Oh [ __ ]. like I need. I don't know like.

I think we got to bring her on and ask. her. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I wonder maybe early 2026? Do you think. that would be a good time? >> that sounds great. Maybe our first. episode. Okay. I like where your head's. at, Richie. >> [laughter]. >> Okay, yeah, maybe we just have to ask. her in person. Yeah, it makes me sad. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'd hope that. she's happy about it. I mean she also. But she also said she's happy. In a video I think. Ri-. I don't know. >> I wonder what Capri thinks. I wonder if. Capri's like, "Damn it.".

>> [snorts]. >> I don't know. Can we look at Capri's. socials? I feel like he's still posting. about it. >> forever. >> Yeah. Last thing I heard this guy do was break. our sink. Dude, I cannot believe Capri broke our. sink. Like what the [ __ ]. Capri, Italy. >> Broke our sink, said nothing and left. Okay, this is office op number one. >> I'm actually fell on the floor and. shattered. >> [snorts]. [laughter]. >> Dude. >> That would have been bad. Oh yeah, he. did a backflip on stage I saw.

And then he like ate [ __ ]. Oh god. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> That's awesome. I like people falling. Yeah. I like the profile picture. It's like. Capri Sun Capri. It's really like I love. when people have good profile pictures. Like that's That's a good one. I want a. good profile picture. What's [laughter]. your profile picture, Jacob? Uh, mine's. just uh, my eyeball. That's my eye. It's a sunflower. No, it's a zoomed-in. picture of my eye that I got in Italy.

There was a place where you can get a. close-up picture of your eye. I. literally have thought my entire life. that that was a sunflower. No, that's my. eye. What? >> Everyone says it looks like a sunflower. >> your profile picture was a sunflower. No. That's a very close-up picture of my. eye. Your eyes are yellow. I always. thought sunflower. What? Green. What? Brown. >> Definitely not green. Green. Brown. >> is a yellow brown.

>> as hell. >> [laughter]. >> What the [ __ ] Yeah. And I have birthmarks on my eyes. We. should go to one of those places. Like. they probably have it here, too. And. then you get close-up pictures of your. eyes. It's super I would love that. I have it framed at my family's house in. Virginia. We all got ours taken. And. then I was just like, "Oh, that would be. a cool profile picture.". Everyone's eyes look so different. That's what [clears throat] you learn. Is like people have like from stress, like your eyes look different.

>> Really? >> Yeah, people have birthmarks in their. eyes, some people. Um. it's fascinating. And I look at eyes, this is crazy, as like little universes. >> Oh, I agree with that. >> Like it's like it's own Those are like. the windows of like the the soul. I don't know. They're like little. universes. Like how complex and they're. so small. And like how do they even. work? Like really think about it. How do. eyes work? >> I'm getting cameras. Ooh, for the simulation?

No, I just meant like a camera space. It's like the same thing. Like the iris, the But like how do are we able to. process what our eyes Isn't that pretty. complex, though? Like how. like we see things. >> Yeah, like that. >> through our eyes. Like how did that all. get wired? Cuz we're cool as [ __ ] bro. >> We're pretty complex if you think about. it. But. That's like the acid in me, you know? That could just talk about that for. >> humans How where did we come from, man? Okay, what came first? The chicken or.

the egg? Mhm. The human or the planet? Well, the planet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or what's another really Can we look up. really like um. What's What's that word? Really deep question Yeah, philosophical. questions. Let's try to talk about some. really philosophical things. >> Cuz everybody thinks we're dumb. What is. consciousness? Wait, don't click on it. What is. >> What do you guys think consciousness is? Ah. >> [gasps]. >> When you're awake.

I think consciousness is the ability to. under I think it has to do with like. being aware with what's around you in a. sense of like But how did we get it? Like how does it work? Being conscious. I think by like your brain like when you. when like all your neurons firing and. your brain working and like you having. thoughts. I think consciousness has to. do with like your thoughts. Like if.

you're having thoughts, you're. conscious. Okay, the. This is a crazy question. Ready? Okay, you see your name on the cup? Yeah. When you read it, do you hear it. in your head? >> Yes. What is that? You know some people don't have that? >> The ego, the id, and the super ego? What does that mean? It's like the parts. of your brain or whatever Like when you. read something control. It's like like. you read something God, I can't remember. psychology. But it's like um. Oh, I don't remember the orders of what,

but one of them's like the primal urge. in your brain and it's like, "Oh, like. I'm going to go I want to eat that so. badly." But then there's like the. conscious part of your brain that's. like, "That's someone else's food, bro. Like relax." Mhm. Um and then there's. the part that's like your interests and. traits and stuff like But like if you're. reading like any word on that screen and. you hear it in your head, what's that. voice? Your inner dialogue? Yeah, your. inner monologue. >> But. what's weird is why do some people not. have that? And like I've heard that. people that don't have it are usually. the people who are more impulsive.

You would think I don't have an inner. dialogue, huh? No. But I actually do. You very much seem. like you do. Like I I like I'm always. talking to myself in my. >> I I would assume both of you guys. definitely have an inner monologue. Mhm. I don't think Kayla does, but No, you. guys both. >> [laughter]. >> I'm just kidding. I don't know about Richie. You guys both. have that dialogue going on. It's the. NPCs who don't have thoughts. Yeah. What. do you think about This is a good. question. Do you think. humans are inherently good or evil?

Good. 100% good. >> Well, this comes into nature versus. nurture. Uh-huh. We get taught evil. almost. But what if we're born pure? That's the. question. What if Hitler never failed. art school? Is that what sent him on this ego. >> That's what people say. Yeah. I think it was a little bit more. than that. I don't think he Yeah, no. baby is born Like for instance, like. you're not born with racism or sexism or. anything. Like you're not born being. racist. >> You get taught racism and uh All Yeah,

you're a product of your environment. >> necessarily true. What if you have the. greatest parents ever? >> That's true. Not everyone does. the. spawn of Satan. I don't know. But then. they're seeing it somewhere else, I. feel. complex. I think it's a little bit. of both. But do you think evil exists? Evil exists in the world. Yeah. Honestly, hot take. I know that everyone. says that the babies are the sweetest, nicest things in the world. I think the. babies are evil and you're taught to be. good. That's kind That's kind of an. interesting take. >> animals. They're in like, "I'm hungry. I. want food. I'm going to cry. Attention.

I don't know things." And then you're. sort of taught everything. And then they. teach you to be good and be a better. person. It's like, Like don't step on. that. >> Like when I was a little three-year-old. me, I was like. >> fighting everyone. You'd be extra crazy. You're just like more I don't know. You're. >> And you kind of learn I need to pull. that back. >> Exactly. You learn You're taught the. goodness. That's a really interesting take cuz. babies wreck things. They'll knock. things over. But then they're kind of. taught as they grow up that's not how. you do things. It's kind of like the. simulation.

That's really interesting. Yeah. What. was I going to say? [ __ ] Um Does life. have a meaning? No. You. >> the meaning is just to experience it? >> the meaning of life is how you put it. because there's like I don't think every. I like to think that everybody was put. here for a purpose, but I think that you. have to make a purpose for yourself. And. if you sit here like you could either be. the type of person that's like, "Oh, life doesn't have a meaning. It sucks. What's the point of everything? Oh my. god." Or you could be the type of person. that's like, "I'm going to make purpose. of life. I'm going to do this and I want.

to do this before I die." And it Like. no, I like I think that's the whole. thing. I think that's why in my opinion. religion was created and stuff like that. because people were so scared of like. what our purpose was, why we were. created, what's going to happen when we. die. And it's just all things to make us. feel better. So we have rules to live. by. Like with Christianity, it's like. don't do X, Y, and Z so you could get to. heaven and repent your sins and all this. [ __ ] But like at the end of the day, no, I don't think there's a purpose to. life unless you make it. >> believe in God? I believe in a higher power. I believe. in the universe. I don't believe in. Jesus Christ necessarily. That's why I'm.

wearing a cross, which is kind of really. [ __ ] up. No, but I I see it like I think having a. higher power is good. That's what I've. learned. Doesn't matter what it is. I. think everyone can define it their own. way. But like having something that you. feel is all-knowing and something that. is watching definitely. I think only benefits. >> Yeah, I remember there was one time I. was talking to my dad about religion and. I was like trying to like explain I was. like, "But how do you believe that like. all this stuff happened so long ago?".

And I'm like trying to like be like, "How the [ __ ] do you believe that?" And. then he looked at me and he was like, "Kayla, it's not a bad thing to have. something to believe in." And I was. like, "True." Like it's really not. Like. it it's not a bad thing. Yeah. Mhm. What. do you think, Richie? Uh I I think it's also all how you take. it cuz like people. like say like the Bible for instance, like 10 Commandments, whatever. That's. Judaism, too. It's That's written as. like a set of rules of like, "Hey, don't. kill people. Don't [ __ ] your neighbor's. wife." Like there's certain things that. are bad you shouldn't do. And then.

you're sort of like, "Oh, don't steal. stuff. Okay." And I I think that like. back before technology and we were also. connected, it's so easy to kind of I I. think things were a lot more ruthless. There were a little less rules. So like. here's a set of 10 rules that people. should follow to be a good person. Like. I get that. Back I couldn't I I don't think. religion's a bad thing at all. I think a. lot of people negat-. tize it. Negat-. >> [laughter]. >> Neg- Negat- Neg- Make it negative?

Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I think a lot of people make it. negative, but I don't think it is. negative. I think it's amazing if you. have something that's you're following. and you're like, "Oh, like I This is. teaching me to be a better person." I. think anyone trying to improve themself. is in the right. Yeah, I just I think. that there are people that make religion. like people who are. Like for instance, like I don't think. religion is bad as a whole, but there. are people that take it to an extent to. hurt other people and bring other people. down. And that's when I don't think. religion is good. For instance, when you. use religion to be homophobic or sexist.

or misogynistic or racist or Like when. you you start doing that and it's like, "Oh, but it's it's what God would have. wanted." It's like, "No, he doesn't want. you to sit here and call people the F. slur because they're gay." Like that's. not what God would have wanted. And you. know, like that's when I think. religion's harmful is when people make. it that way. Yeah. I think I completely agree. I. think there's some things that seem. outdated, you know? Um but at the same time I think overall. if you have something that you believe. in and it and you use that to like.

and it makes you a better person, I. think that's good. >> 100. >> everyone with like love and respect. Like you said, some people do take it to. the extreme and word for word follow. what was written a long time ago. And. that's like, you know, for those people. like do your big one. But but I think in. 2025, I think we've learned a lot of new. things about how the world works. And I. think you got to, you know, adapt to the. times. It's a little bit different now.

than it was a long time ago. But I. doesn't mean that everyone that is. religious is necessarily homophobic or. Yeah. >> those things. But it's definitely like. there are people who take it there. Isn't it weird how like a lot of the. pastors are like some of the worst type. of people? >> lot of controversy with like pastors. touching little boys. Which is like. that's so. like what? >> Yeah. It bro one of our old friends he. went to church and came out 10 years 10.

years later after he was going to this. church that this pastor was literally. touching little boys and got sentenced. to like 25 years in jail and it's like. woah. Yeah. I think there is evil in the. world. And I think. it doesn't but it shouldn't spoil it for. for everyone that wants to believe cuz. there are good people out there. Yeah. 100%. >> That believe and don't believe. There's. good people out there. There's also bad. people. In any group of people there's. going to be some that are bad. I think. Yeah. behind it are good. I just think.

that there's always going to be someone. that can manipulate the words or. manipulate kind of what their meaning is. and take their own ideas from it and. turn that hateful. But I I do think at a. basic core it is a positive thing. Mhm. Here's a good question I'm reading. What. do you think the goal of humanity is? I actually have an answer and people. might not agree. I think it's to become. more advanced to evolve. So we started. like a hundred years ago let's say like. wait a hundred okay I'm not that.

knowledgeable about this but like a. hundred years ago were we like. fighting for food? A hundred years ago? >> Or two hundred? What about three. hundred? Like what era were we actually. like hunting for the food that we ate? Longer than a like I'd say a thousand. >> A thousand? Okay now. we have chat GPT and stuff like that. What if chat GPT allows us to live. forever? Life expectancy's going up. I. think the goal is to like. not die. >> But what so you think we are advancing.

not to die? >> Sorry over a thousand cuz a thousand's. the western era. So this would have been. maybe two thousand years ago. But we've come a long way. >> So you think the the goal of humanity. [laughter]. is to like advance so that we could live. forever because at the end of the day. the goal of humanity is to not die. There's a guy Okay no I don't think. that's the goal. >> I I was going to say I almost agree. because I think that's why we have. religion because people are scared to. die. The one thing that everyone doesn't. want to If there was one rule of life of.

the game of life don't die. Yeah. everybody's scared of dying. Everybody's. doesn't know what comes next. That's. like the number one thing. So actually I. completely agree with you that at the. end of the day maybe one of the goals of. humanity is to continue to advance until. we don't die. >> all the rich people have these like. bunkers under the ground for if like the. world ends? >> You don't got a bunker? No. I want one. >> Dude you got to be We should get a. banging out bunker. You got to be ready. for the apocalypse. You can always stay. in my bunker. Okay thank you.

Yeah but I don't know. I think people. don't are scared of dying. You could get. all the money in the world. You could. get the power everything. Death's inevitable. Yeah. But with AI. it's kind of answering a lot of the. questions that we used to turn to like. other things. I wonder if it's going to. get advanced and it could solve cancer. and it could solve it could lengthen. life expectancy to a hundred forty. years. I'm actually going to disagree. with all of this. I think it's very. selfish to want to live longer than the.

life that you deserve. I do think. medically our advancements are helping. people live longer so yes kudos to that. But we already have an overpopulation. problem here and the whole world quite. frankly. to a point where countries have already. put like a one child only rule and. parents are forced to you know get rid. of their kids. Yeah. We're literally in. the process of the most massive. deportation here because we have too. many people in our country that are. criminals or whatever the heck. we're dealing with. I don't want to get. political. But I do think that at the.

end of the day it's a little bit selfish. for humans to want to live forever. because. we're just draining and draining and. draining this earth of all of its. materials without any without or without. realizing the consequences of our. actions and at the end of the day. with the selfishness that we're doing. and all this advancement while it's. helping I feel like if we live forever. it's just going to drain even more than. we already have been with this earth and. I can't imagine how much. repercussions unfortunately we're going.

to deal with and humanity's going to. deal with if you know we end up living. forever. >> don't think humanity even gives a [ __ ]. about that. >> No. Like I I like that's the thing like. I like. It's a shitty thing but like that's why. like nobody's nobody's driving on eco. mode every day. Nobody's like maybe I'm. like literally. maybe. 5% of people actually care and that's. the thing. >> want to live forever? That's another. thing. It's like. >> Selfishly yeah. Yeah dude. It's very. selfish. Yeah. Selfishly yeah. And also.

like I think our instinct is to survive. Yeah. So if we can have the resources to. live as long as we can we're going to do. it. >> to freeze my body when I die. Why did. Walt Disney Yeah freeze us and then send. us to space later dude when we conquer. the But why does like Walt Disney froze. his head? Because he cuz he didn't want. to die. It's been that way like people. with power were like I don't want to die. like. I don't know. I think. I don't know. It but I wouldn't want to. live forever because actually I agree.

with Stephanie where like. if we lived forever it would. every day wouldn't be as valuable. Imagine being Walt Disney and frozen for. like hundreds and hundreds of years and. then the technology finally gets there. and it's like some like 18 year old. interns like pulling your head out of. the box and like drops it and you. shatter. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ] dude that was Walt Disney. Oh are you sure? Yeah dude. We're [ __ ].

Dude. what do you think about the conspiracy. theory about. when you search Walt Disney frozen? It's now the cartoon movie instead of. come up with articles. about him being frozen. AI overview disagrees. Yeah. No way. But this is false he was. cremated. Is that true? Should we go on a field trip and visit? Wait. Hold on hold on hold on hold on.

>> by? So. Walt Disney's head was never frozen. Wow. >> Are you sure? There was never a 100%. confirmation on the fact that he his. head was frozen. It's just a very big. theory that a lot of people had for. years and then the Frozen movie came out. so people were like that's a little sus. especially because Frozen I think was. had a whole different other name and. also was supposed to be the villain and. then they rechanged the name to be. Frozen. Like it's just everything kind. of lined up to be weird. It is a good. time. Yeah. You can freeze your body. though right?

>> People do it all the time. Yeah but I. don't know if Walt Disney did it. The. ashes are fake. It's Pluto his dog. Yeah his dog. >> How much is it? Didn't we look that up. before to freeze your body? >> 300k. 100%. >> A year. To keep it in a freezer I think. Dude. imagine you only get one year like damn. that was a waste. Cuz the hope is that. the technology 20. Oh okay. So is that like most people use life. insurance? Well life insurance covers it. I'm going.

to I would freeze my body. Lifetime. member. I I I'm 100% freezing my body. >> Oh yeah. I'm not going to lie. Like bro if the technology gets there. one day bro. Wake me. Like Futurama? And then they you just get woken up and. everything's different. Like yeah. you're in the future and there's. cyclopses and robot people who drink. beer. That would be insane. >> It'd be so fun. Also. um what was I going to say? I think.

there's just a lot that we don't know. about. like how the universe works. Like I truly believe the other night I. was at a stand up like comedy outdoor. thing and I saw a UFO. I swear on. everything I love okay? It was like a little thing in the sky. and it just disappeared. Didn't Elon. just say that aliens are in space? Bro I'm telling you I've never seen. anything it went into like blank space. like and it was so clear. I look up boom. boom gone and I was like what the hell.

was that? It wasn't a light it was. clearly right there. And it was like a. little white pill. >> It's real. Aliens are real. I don't. know. I do think there's like other. stuff out there that might. >> think in our lifetime we'll like see. aliens? No. You don't think so? No. But. I watched a documentary Bob Lazar. We. should have Bob Lazar on the podcast. >> Oh my god I'd love it. I bet that's a. hard poll but if Bob Lazar if you're. listening we'd love to have you. >> Yo Bob Lazar he used to work at like.

and then they like deleted all his. history once he came out saying like I. worked on alien spacecraft. Like they. deleted where he went to high school. They tried to discredit him. They. removed all of his past channel. information. >> Yeah I think they might. I don't know. He was on Joe Rogan. Um but I watched a documentary about it. it's called like Area 51 or something. like that. >> people who don't believe in aliens like. I don't know like how do you not? I don't know. Who knows? I think the.

main thing is we don't know anything. We think we know stuff. But. >> think now with AI it's going to be so. hard to believe if we do see like if. aliens actually did come down right now. and it was real our government could. literally be like that's AI. And vice versa. Mhm. Like AI ruins. everything. I hope to God that 2026 has. AI regulations in in the in the coming. up. Like I hope that. we have an actual law that passes that. makes AI regulated because it's going to.

get so bad. Dude, they could literally. sit here and like make an AI video of. you robbing a bank, do a deep fake of. that, and be like, "Yeah, we're going to. send you to jail for that." Like that's. going to be our future. Yeah, it's also. kind of scary because people are talking. to AI more than they're talking to God. Really though. People are literally. asking AI. >> That's crazy though, right? Like no, for. real. Like I'm telling you people. >> in ChatGPT stands for? Could be. >> [snorts]. >> Dude, but seriously, I think people,

like younger kids, are turning to. ChatGPT as like this all-knowing thing. and instead of turning to God. I end. every message to ChatGPT with amen. Really? >> [laughter]. >> Of course. I also think it's like people are using. AI. Like people, like for instance, school now, cooked. Like nobody Like. yes, everybody cheats, everybody. cheated, but now with AI genuinely you. don't have to learn [ __ ] You don't have. to learn anything. You could AI it all. You don't At least with cheating back in. high school, you would have to at least.

like, "Okay, well I know X, Y, and Z. Let me have some help on how to really. understand or how to write." Like you. couldn't just, "Hey, write me a MLA. paragraph format about X, Y, and Z." And. then it would do it like So then what. are people who are now taking on. positions like in the government and in. medical like. So many people are not going to be. qualified for the jobs that they're. having. That's actually going to affect. so much [ __ ] That's why I hate AI. >> is going to be all the jobs. I'm telling. you. >> We have millions of people unemployed. doing what? Did you see um Mr. Beast's.

video that just got put out? It was like. him with like a bunch of like AI like. robots and they're like. faster than like Yes. >> And there's like ones that are like so. [ __ ] strong. I was like, "Bro, it. actually scared me cuz I was like, robots are going to take over. everybody's job." Like there's not going. to be like they could do sports. They. can do like [ __ ]. everything a human can do but better. >> Yeah, they tested it like the fastest. man versus the fastest robot. And then. like the best basketball robot versus.

like the best three-point shooter in. basketball. And actually. >> What? humans did win. most of them. Like the fastest man crushed the robot. Like that's terrible. The strongest man. actually was stronger than the robot. Really? >> this whole video. It's actually really. good. I stopped and like I I like. watching Mr. Beast sometimes before bed. Yeah, I used to watch him a lot more. Oh. yeah, they This one was crazy. But the thing is the humans right now, I.

think are better. Not at thinking of. stuff fast, but like in terms of. physical activities, the humans were. better. But. cuz they're more predictable. [clears throat]. Like the robots. pitched the baseball the same way five. times in a row, and then the baseball. player learned and adapted how it was. swinging and hit most of them. >> long do you think it's going to stay. like that? >> Not long. Isn't that scary? Oh yeah, everything's going to be done by robots. in the future.

I mean, you guys see the robots you can. get for 20 grand, the Neos? Yep. I want. one. Oh. >> You could train it to do laundry. You. could train it to do everything. >> I'd rather just do it. Why? And it's you're going to be able to. update it. I almost I almost want to buy. one just so I could say I bought the. first one. One day that'll be an iconic. piece where when the robots get so. advanced, it's like I have the first one. ever made. What if it starts acting on its own? What if it's like doing But it could. like feed my cats. Imagine I get back.

and it's holding both my cats. >> [laughter]. >> That's what I'm saying, dude. I'm so. sorry. I didn't mean to. I'd be like, "Bro, get the [ __ ] out of. here. >> [laughter]. >> I'm I'm selling you." What if they get. smart enough and then he's like, "Actually, I forged your signature and. now I own your apartment and everything. you have.". >> Yeah, that would be very scary. I don't want it. >> it, but it memorizes your address and it. just keeps coming back. That's what And how lazy are we going to. get? We're going to have [ __ ] robots.

[ __ ] do the dishes and cook for us. now? >> Yeah, duh. That sounds awesome. Feel like if you don't. >> Literally, literally, literally. >> don't move with technology, it's going. to move regardless. That's what I've. learned. You got to move with it. That is a good. point. >> fight against it. What are we going to. do? Might as well just embrace it. Find. ways to make life easier. But. eventually, yeah, we're never going to. have to like stand up. There's going to. be machines that can just get shredded.

>> going to be contacts you could put in. your eye to be like, "Send a text." Like. >> Like you'll never have to use a screen. Like that will go out the window. There's going to be a new thing. Oh. yeah, that is one cool thing they have. They have this thing you can implant in. your hand where you could like for your. house like unlock your doors and like. [ __ ] like that. But I do know that Elon. Musk did a thing where he. put a transmitter in a guy's head who. was like paralyzed or something. And. it allowed him to like. do everything. Like I don't I don't know.

exactly what it did, but he put a chip. in this guy's head. It made him walk. again? Wait, look it up. Elon Musk chip. in guy's head. Neuralink, yeah. Yeah, he. could like type. Oh, I did see that. Like he could move the mouse by just. thinking about it. >> Yeah, and he was paralyzed, so it helped. him out a lot. >> Do you think we'll be able to fly with. AI one day? I hope we could teleport. That'd be cool. But see, if all this. stuff starts happening, then reality as. we know it wasn't what we thought it. was. Yeah, if we could in our brains see. screens Cuz then it just shows that like.

this we didn't know it at the time. Like. people in a thousand years might watch a. podcast like this and be like, "What. idiots. They had no clue what was. coming." It's like the first iPhone, the. first Neo. And imagine how much better. phones got. But nobody does. Look at. Back to the Future too. Mhm. You know, they try to predict the future and it's. tough. And you can get some things and. you got a little magic toy and we say, "These chips are coming next year. Oh my. god." And it's not going to come out for. like 20 years. But when they do come.

out, we'll be a little bit more seasoned. and ready for it. >> What is having screens in our brain? Like doesn't that alter like literally. what we think reality is if we can sit. there and in our brain without picking. up a phone like look up Hawaii. And all. of a sudden your brain and you are. seeing that you're in Hawaii. What does. that do to reality? Is there any way you. could ask Do you have like ChatGPT on. there? Could you ask it to make a picture of. the future? Of what the future looks like. Draw a. picture of what the future looks like. It's just Richie.

>> [laughter]. >> No, but that's not a drawing though. Damn. But any AI drawing, it's just. going to be taken from every picture. online. So it's like it's doing so much. and it's like connecting the internet, but it's not like reading brains or. inventing new ideas. It's. helping It's a tool, you know what I. mean? Like I think follow it, study it, try to stay ahead cuz if you don't, you're going to be like grandpa not. knowing how to work an iPhone. >> Me. >> [laughter]. >> Do you think AI could ever gain.

consciousness? Yeah, and I hope it does, dude. I want to see C-3PO. I want to. hang out with the boys. That would be sick. >> AI gain consciousness? Like what does. that mean about consciousness then? Like. That it's kind of just like. Like yeah, what does that. >> That we're kind of It could mean we're. in a simulation. I'm not going to lie. If we can recreate consciousness and. have like. really do that, then are we that. special? If we can build consciousness, then. doesn't that make us like a third world.

society? Doesn't that make us even more. special? But if we're able to do that, do you. think somebody like thousands of years. ago got really advanced and we're just. in their video game? I don't think on. Earth. You think it's aliens? >> I think if it's a simulation, it's some. alien [ __ ] But I I think on Earth right. now, we've been running an even. trajectory. We don't know all the. history books cuz they all burned, but I. imagine it was some barbaric. How would robots gain consciousness.

though? Like what do. >> See, that's a weird concept. Well, they. don't gain consciousness. It's like. They get reasoning. They get like the. qualities of like being able to think. freely. >> But it comes from you. It like comes. from you communicating with them. You. train the AI. That's They're being. trained by us right now. Every time we. use ChatGPT, it'll be like saved memory. 100%. Oh god, that's Like if you tell it. a piece of information, there's a little. thing that goes saved memory. And it's. learning, okay. And then it takes like, "Okay, most humans think this way. This. is a common thing theme amongst people.

that have asked this question." And then. you start kind of learning like, "Oh, most people think this way.". And eventually it might be like. trying to really replicate that. Yeah, so we're all going TO DIE. NO. I THINK WE HAD no drama, so we got. really. psychological. What is that word? Philosophical. >> Philosophical. Same thing. Physiological. on the beat. Subliminal Apples or tomato, tomato.

Yeah, that was fun though. Um leave a. like, subscribe, comment down below. Yeah, thank you guys for watching and. the next episodes are going to be really. good. Ew. I. >> [laughter]. >> can't stop when you do that stuff. I. can't stop doing this. I'm an AI robot. I can't stop malfunctioning. I am. I am a robot not existing.

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