#ABtalks with Narin Amara | Chapter 220 | مع نارين عمارة

-Are you ready? -Yes. -Are all of you ready? -Yes, sir! !هيا بنا-.

Today, we are shooting outside the studio, in Riyadh... So... You can expect some noise! -I love the atmosphere, it's nice! -The place is nice! -What's up Narin! You said 4 years? -True, but I don't think that they know that. -For 4 years we should have... Technically, we should have sat together. -We sat together! -We had coffee together. -But nothing else happened. -True. -Although I don't like to sit with the guests before the interview.

I can say that 9 out of 10 of the guests I sat with, I didn't sit with them before the interview. -Thank God that I'm the exception! -Yes, you are! -We had coffee together but didn't shoot an episode together. -That's the reason. That's why... -Okay, tell me, honestly... How are you doing? -Today, I'm fine! -Thank God! -What about yesterday? -I only focus on the day I'm in, honestly! -Yesterday, I was so stressed out... There was much stress... But today, I'm fine!

-And in general, how are you doing during... this period of your life? -How am I doing in general? ... I'm afraid! I can say that. I feel that... there are a lot of changes will happen in my life, so... there is fear and enthusiasm... I have had these 2 feelings lately. -I wanted to ask you a question related to this answer... which is, if I give you a bag...

and tell you to put in it all the feelings you have in this period... and then open the bag. What would be inside of it? -Enthusiasm... -Okay... -Fear from... the new responsibilities because I'm about to get married... ... I feel that my ambition is growing... every day, more than the day before... Love... -Did I say fear, I want to make sure. -Yes, you said that!

-And... That's it! Maybe a peace of mind! -Okay! Summarize... Narin's childhood in 3 words. -It's hard to summarize it in just 3 words! -Try your best. -My childhood in 3 words... -I can say it was turbulent! -Okay! ...

-Turbulent. If I were to look at my childhood now, I would say it was sad. And... full of family love... -Full of love. Why was it turbulent? -Because... The more stable my life was as a child, the more it would turn upside down dramatically!

I mean... The more stable it was, the more something bad would happen! So, it was so turbulent. -Give me an example! -Where were you born? -In Syria. -In Aleppo. -Okay, what happened? What was the first bad thing that happened? -The war broke out... and we went to live in the village... for a year... After that... When we adapted to the life there... I will tell you, the first thing that happened. Our life was perfect...

in Aleppo until I was 12 years old! After that, the war broke out... So, we had to move to the village... So, all things went upside down! After we adapted to life in the village, we had to... move to Turkey. We tried to adapt in Turkey. After Turkey, we moved to Sweden. We tried to adapt in Sweden... After that, I have decided to...

move to Dubai! -And the third word... What was it? No, the second word! The third word was love. You said that it was turbulent and then sad? -Yeah. -You said... that if you could watch the tape of your childhood, That’s what it means... you would say it was sad. -Yeah. -Why? -Because when I was a child, I went through... things that a child shouldn't have gone through.

So, when I remember that, I feel sad! -Explain more! -I mean... As a child, I felt that... I was deprived of my most basic rights... which is safety... Every child feels that... the most basic right he should have is... to feel safe. I felt that I was surrounded by lies... when I was young. For example...

In Syria before the war, everything was perfect. My father was a lawyer, my mom owned a women's hair salon, we were studying, and we were among the top students in school. And suddenly, everything became meaningless! So... we had to live a life... which is completely different from... the luxurious life we lived as children for 12 years. It was completely the opposite! It was the opposite in every detail...

So, it was like a shock for me and my siblings... and we weren't used to this. And we thought that this would be our life forever! When you have something and then get deprived of it, it's different from when you never had that thing. Because you didn't know the flavour of these things. So, we had a lot of things and got deprived of them. So, it was hard for us but we adapted. I don't know how we gained this power... but we adapted in every situation we were in.

So, I feel that... there were many things that weren't good for a child to go through. -Beside the... contrast you lived... Contrast in Arabic means "التباين"... -Isn't this thing in editing pictures? -I mean contrast in life... Black and white. You used to live a comfortable and luxurious life... -So, the contrast is the opposite! -True! -You went to the village and then traveled. -True!

... -What is the best memory from your childhood? A nice thing you still remember. -The best memory... ... ...أظن. I remember when... our dad used to come from work... always at 3 in the afternoon... he used to come with a lot of bags...

full of snacks and food. Then, he and mom used to cook together in the kitchen... and we would wait for the food... and had CDs for... Roby... He used to bring them from Damascus... and we would listen to them and dance. I think these memories were the best! -Nice! What about the hardest memory? -The hardest memory... ... I don't have a specific hard memory...

but I had a hard phase. -Yes. -What was that phase? -I think it's the phase we spent in the village. It wasn't that nice. -Why? -Because it was so hard. Even when I think about it... Honestly, I have become at peace with this matter recently... but before that, I had forgotten about it. It never crossed my mind. I forgot that I lived 9 months in the village...

and whenever I thought about this matter, I would avoid it. Until I said... "To where are you escaping?". "You lived through it, so face it!". ... I faced that and... It's sad! I feel sad for me and for my siblings. -The problem is that you lived this experience and I didn't live it... -True! -You are saying that in general... I want you to help me and help everyone listening to the story...

Why this specifically? Because you repeated mentioning "the village" 3 or 4 times. Why did that affect you so much? Explain the story more! -Because... I will tell you exactly how was it... We are of Kurdish origin... So, when we moved to the village... we weren't able to speak Kurdish... So, we had to learn... our native language in the village for 9 months... We didn't know how to communicate with our family...

Because they couldn't speak Arabic and we couldn't speak Kurdish. And we would get... bullied by our family members... by saying that we are people who aren't proud of their origins... But the reason behind that... we didn't learn the language because... our mom had a belief that we should speak Arabic... to be among the top students in school... and learn Kurdish later on. This is the first reason.

My dad didn't have a job at the time... and I didn't use to see my father without work. Since I was young, I used to see my father... wear suits and a tie... He wouldn't go anywhere without his tie, his shoes were always clean, he always carried his work briefcase and so on. That was my father's case... and mom was a cheerful woman... Her family was close to her... our cousins, friends, and her siblings. So, when we went to the village,

everyone was depressed and shocked! Because there was no electricity, and no water. You take a shower every 2 months if you are lucky! If you want to drink water, you need to bring it from a well... So, I said to myself "Where am I and what's happening?". We used to watch news... and every 2 days we would know... that a person we know died. in a specific accident... So, as children we were afraid...

and deprived! !لقد كان الأمر سيء جدا! To the point that... the... I mean... How can I phrase it! We didn't have bread! When I said it in my speech in Joy Awards... I was there... We didn't have bread and we used to eat rotten bread! Instead of oil, we used to have water and thyme... Not oil and thyme!

So... It was hard. When I remember that, I feel sad. But today, I am at peace with what I faced. I remember it and say thank God. I think that we learned many things from that like patience of course... and learned that... nothing is impossible. Maybe today you are in a specific place but tomorrow you can be in a different place!

-For 9 months! Thank you because now I understand more... What you were saying was so general and I couldn't understand exactly. But now, I understand more! -I mean... I don't have a problem to talk but maybe... I don't like bothering people with such stories. -But this is your story, Narin!

You didn't exaggerate in telling the story... nor did you make us not understand. We have to understand Narin's story! -Today, we are talking about your story. -True. ... -I was asking you... Did your mother have 2 accidents when she was pregnant with you? -Yes, she did. -Oh! -I will come into this world inevitably. -I feel that God has destined for you to exist. !أنا أعرف-. My mother had an accident when she was one or two months pregnant with me...

and also when she was pregnant with me in the ninth month. -Yes. -Do you have a driving license? -Yes, but I stopped from driving. -You too? -My mental state is exhausted because of driving. -She stopped driving, what about you? -Mom don't drive and she hate cars... The longest trip my mother can take lasts 15 minutes. Because of that! -Because of the shock! -Yeah! Even when we went to the village... the distance was about an hour... She was worried about how we would get there.

-She doesn't worry about you when you drive a car? -Yes, she does. But we have a driver and she is comfortable with him... and tell him what to do exactly. !مشاركة الموقع المباشر للرحلة- .أجل-. -How old were you when your parents got divorced? -16! -16, okay! -Do you feel that that affected you so much or not? Were they close to each other during your childhood, or were they distant?

-No, when I was young... ... They were close to each other... But problems happen in every house! I think problems exacerbated... over time... and... I think they took the right decision for both of them. We were with the idea of them getting divorced honestly! All of us. -Nice! And strange at the same time!

But nice! -All people say that we are crazy! -Not at all, I supported my parents' divorce. -Really? -I used to say that my parents... are like olive oil... or like oil and vinegar... both are healthy but don't mix! !هذا رائع- -So... there doesn't have to be a bad person... or one is a hero and the other is a villain... Not always! In some stories... The father beats his wife, someone cheats or something happens... There might be a villain and an innocent person...

But sometimes, both can be good but just not compatible. -After divorce, they became best friends! They were... There came a time when the problems increased... So, we felt that the situation at home was so unhealthy. As their children, we were witnessing them... and we were seeing how our mental health was being affected. So, after the divorce, they became friends! -You know, I learned something...

which is sometimes... Yesterday, we were talking in a restaurant, and I told him... I told him that the person can be a good friend but not a good husband! -True! -So, everyone has his role and attitude... !الوصف الوظيفي مختلف. You know! For example, even with my ex-wife... I feel that... after the divorce and having children... During the last years of our marriage, I can say that... Marriage was a burden... It was a responsibility but... -you feel that this is a burden on you! -True!

When we removed that burden, we became good parents... and... I don't say that we are friends but I would say we are friendly. There is companionship, decency, respect, and children between us. -There is companionship between you both. -The burden disappeared! -So, I felt that we have become better. -Right. -Maybe your father and mother are the same. When they removed the burden, they became friends. -I think they have become more like themselves... They started acting on their own, instead of someone asking them to do something.

Or because of someone, they do an action. I think mom and dad have become more comfortable... Their focus have become on us instead of problems. -Are you the older among your siblings? -No, I have 2 older brothers. -You are 5 siblings? -Yes. -Okay and... -as a 16 year old girl... did your parents' divorce affect you back then? -No, I think that affected me later.

-How did that affect you later? -When that happened... I don't know if I talked about that before. But when that happened, I think I was happy. Finally, there are no more problems and so on. The problems decreased so... it was clear that this was the right decision for the family... But when I grew older... There was... a little... The feeling of the absence of the father...

because they lived away from each other and I moved. Sometimes, I would see some kids... I wasn't jealous... but I felt that inside of me. I felt that later on. -Like, "I wish I had that!" -I think so! -Which situation do you remember? ... -Like a family having lunch or dinner together... I would look at them...

and say that... I feel sorrow not jealousy... I'm happy for them but... I feel sorrow... and then I would say... We don't want to be selfish with dad or mom! Not because we are their children, they should fulfill the feeling of... parenthood while they are unhappy. No, if they are happy, it's fine! They have to live a good life also, not only for us.

-Well done! You know... You reminded me of something. This point you mentioned is so important! Once, many years ago, I was talking to people, and one of them said... I asked her about her age. I don't remember the conversation exactly, but I'll tell you the idea. Let's say they were in their thirties and forties... I asked her if her parents... got divorced and she said yes... I asked her if one of them got married and she said: "No! It's impossible!".

She took a stance... I told her "What do you mean?"... and she said "We won't agree at all!". I told her "Why does it matter to you if your mother got married or not?". She said "No, we don't agree with our mother getting married to someone else!"... I told her "You are a selfish person!"... "What if your mom wants to love someone else"... "Doesn't she have the right to love again because you will be upset?". "Who said that you have the right to tell your mother not to love someone else?"... This idea that says... that my parents should be together because we want them together...

They aren't happy! You said "Why should they be together while they are unhappy?". It’s better for them to be divorced and happy, rather than being together and disconnected! -True! -The selfish child who refuses... That's not right at all! How is that even possible? And if they got divorced, you tell your mother not to get married again! -You know that we told our dad that we want a new baby because we are just 5... !أنا أقسم. They weren't happy together... They got divorced, became more comfortable, and became...

capable of fulfilling their roles as father and mother, regardless of the fact that they are divorced. And we hope not to do that... thing and make them be together while they aren't happy. If they are happy, it's fine! If they want to get married or commit to someone, I support that, honestly! -Nice, they raised you well! !شكراً لك-. -What's your opinion on social media? -Social media? -Do you love it?

-Yes. -But it's scary! -Why? -I feel that it's... a double-edged sword. -That's right. -I feel that. -What's scary about it? -Your life is known to everyone... so, if you make a mistake, you won't be able to undo it. !لقد انتهى الأمر- -True! -That's why it's scary but in general... -Does your social media... represent an accurate reflection of Narin?

... -No, I don't think that. Of course there is a side that all of us don't show on social media. -That's true, but is what we see a reflection of you? Is it really you... I know for example that the YouTubers impersonate this character and be like... I will tell you a surprise! They engage in those exaggerations because they know that... that enthusiasm and feelings make... the person follows them... If we act coldly...

maybe not everyone. YouTubers have a specific formula... even some of them change their voices... Some of them... !يتحركون بحماس وحيوية - .أجل-. -They are being like that! -Some of them are acting! -But when you sit with them, you find them normal. That character... I don't criticize them! They have 2 characters, one on the screen and one in real life. Do you feel that... the person who people see on the screen is really you? -I do hear that a lot. -That you have the same character? -Yes, that I'm the same... person on the screen and in real life.

-Nice! -Because I can't, honestly. I feel that my mental health will be exhausted if I... have 2 characters, one on the screen and one in real life. !لا أقدر. So, being myself is easier for me. There are things that I don't love to show because it's unnecessary. -Like what? -Do you want me to tell you? -Don't show me but tell me! -For example, problems which happen... ...

Technical problems in work... Sometimes I'm awake, but not in the mood. I won't turn on the camera and say that... I'm not in the mood. !كما تعرف I choose not to do that! -Don't you feel that from time to time, you should show... the unhappy and unenthusiastic side? !أنا أفعل هذا- !حسناً-. -From time to time! -Nice! -Not being miserable everyday. -No! Occasionally,

I try to... Because I disappear sometimes... and not be active... So, I explain to them and say that I have some issues, I'm tired, this period is tough, wait for me and I will be back. I explain that to them. -Okay, do you feel that social media complicates the person? -Complicates the person? -Yes. -Yes. -How? -Social media is so scary! Either it controls you, or you have control on it.

That's it. It's like a car... either social media controls you, or you have control on your accounts. -True! -And now, you know who is controlling whom! So... it took me time to understand that... and thank God! I can control it. -Do you see that you are the one in control? -Yeah. -That didn't happen suddenly! It's because of old mistakes and...

advice from people who know more than I do. It took time. Many factors led to that. -If social media disappeared, who would you be? -Me? What do you mean? -Who would Narin be if social media disappeared? ... -Well, Narin is... an ambitious girl,

... persistent, and a lover of life. -Which field would you choose to be in? -Honestly, since I was young, I used to tell mom that I want to be on TV. What am I going to do there? It doesn't matter! I didn't understand. I used to see people on TV and wished to be on TV... and didn't know what I would do when she asked me.

So, since I was young, I have loved TV and so on... but if I wasn't involved with social media, I think... I would be an owner of a hotel... -Okay! -My dream is to have a hotel. -Why not, a boutique hotel. -I think so, yes. I will have a hotel in the future. and I would work in something related to children. -I love children so much. -Okay! -The disease you suffered from!

What is the story behind it? -Where you did an MRI scan... -True! and it took 2 years of treatment, I think! -These are the information that I have! -Okay... -Currently, we can't call it a disease... -Okay. -Because it hasn't been... -It has not been diagnosed yet? -Yes! -Okay. -I have to do an MRI scan from time to time... until... we follow the dots in the brain. -How did you know about these dots? What made you go to the doctor?

-I really don't know! -You just went to the doctor? -I felt that there was something wrong! I went to all doctors! The only doctor I didn't go to... was the neurologist. I went to all types of doctors, so I decided to go to a neurologist. I went to him and told him that I think that there is something wrong... many doctors told me that I'm okay but I feel that something is wrong! ولكن كيف كان يبدو هذا الشعور- بأن هناك شيء خاطئ؟. ...كان لديكِ شعور. Or did you have a headache?

-A really bad headache! -All the time? -It is possible for me to take 12 Panadol tablets! !من أجل أن يختفي الصداع. -Everyday? -It depends! Maybe 3 or 4 times a week! -So, you said that there is something wrong! -So... I used to say it’s a migraine... I think I have a migraine! But I felt that there is something wrong... So I went to the neurologist... and told him... to know what is going on in my brain!

and... ...قمنا بعمل اشعة بالرنين المغناطيسي. and after that he told me "1, 2, 3."... I told him "What do you mean? He told me "I don't know what is that!"... "We have to wait and see!". So, I told him, okay! And indeed 2 weeks ago, I did a second MRI scan... and there was no movement! -Okay! -I have to do another MRI after a year. -But what is the meaning of the white dot? Is there a cyst?

ما هذا؟- ...هذا ليس خُرّاج، بل-. ... They say that it can be an autoimmune disease! !مرض مناعي- .أجل-. It attacks your nerves... There is a substance missing from... -The brain? -Yes. -Okay! -It's okay! -So, yes! It is a pigment that is missing... -That's strange! -Yeah! It's called melanin! !أظن أنه المسؤول عن لون الجلد-.

-There is a cover for the nerves which is unprotected! -Has the headache gone now? -No! -Is it still there? -Yeah! -Almost everyday? -You can say that! -Oh! -We have to find you a solution! -I do meditation! -For sure, there must be an expert who understands this matter! -The last time I went to him, he told me that... there are people who were... affected by COVID and this is what caused...

-the dots. -This disorder! -That matter is impactful... and causes these dots. or maybe I was born with these dots... or maybe I have... !صداع نصفي شديد. or maybe... ...هذا مرض مناعي. But I... !أنا أعرف- -Maybe! I told the doctor to tell me what is that only... to be comfortable... I told him that he won't see me again... whatever it may be! He told me that he can't, as he doesn't know what exactly that is!

-Continue with other doctors... -just to be relieved. -I can't do that anymore! -If there wasn't a constant headache, I wouldn't have asked you to do this. -But the headache is so painful! -I know! -You know that already! -You know that the headache... I mean... I wish that there is a wound... that shows the pain... instead of headache! None of the people around me take my headache seriously, because they don't see it! So, they might think I'm just being dramatic...

... and think that I'm a cute girl who has a headache... because they don't see... a scar and know that I feel pain! So sometimes, I hope that something appears when I have a headache! -There is nothing obvious! -Do you have headache now? -No, I'm okay now. -Thank God. -Good, let's talk about the topic... you love... which is love! What does love mean to you? -For me? -The meaning of love....

from what you learned. You said that you are almost 25... -Right. -I think that you fall in love! You are engaged now, and maybe you fall in love more than once... At this age... you have felt the meaning of love... What does it mean? -I think that the perspective of love... changes along the way, when you are... 17, 20, 23, or 25... It's not the same! I think it changes at the age of 27 and 30...

-How old are you? -43! !ماذا- !أجل-. -Mashallah! Has the perspective of love changed for you? -So much! and I love to ask this question a lot because love... is one of the things that... no one understands 100 percent! -We won't be able to understand it. -That's the nice thing about it. That's why when I ask the guests, I receive different answers! -For me, love is... In general, I love love!

I love to love and to be loved! I have that habit... You love me, I love you, and all of us love each other! But for me, it's... when a stranger that you don't know... and you choose... to care for him, appreciate him, give him, and love him without expecting anything in return! I feel that...

!الحب هو اختيار. I don't know if... maybe some people don't agree with me but that's what I believe. Everyday, I choose that my partner... I love him but... I want to give him, do things for him, appreciate him, protect him, and maintain our relationship. All of that... come from that I want to do things for him... without expecting anything in return. -Good! I will analyze that with you. -Let's do it. -The first part is so good!

I like when you said that you choose a stranger... -True! -to give him your love, care for him, and take care of him. It's one of the best answers. What is challenging for me... is what you said about giving without expecting anything in return! A couple of days ago, we were talking about... !الحب الغير مشروط. I was in a coffee shop and I was on my way to the office... I met some women and they asked me to have a conversation! So, we talked about... !لا أؤمن بالحب الغير مشروط-. -Then, how do you say that you do this without expecting anything in return? -No, for example today...

-Not expecting anything in return is unconditional love! -Today, for example... If I want to cook for... my husband or my fiance... I cook for him not because that I want something in return... but because I want him to enjoy... -the meal. -I will give you an example! -Let's play this game with you. -Let's do it! -You cooked biryani for me... and when I started eating, I spit it out! Will you say it's without expectation? -What? -If I didn't like it and spat it out. !لا تلك وقاحة-. -But if you follow the unconditional approach or not expecting anything in return,

then you shouldn't be upset! Whether it's positive or negative! -That's why this was the matter! !أنا أختلف معك يا أنس-. -This is the matter! I don't believe in love without expecting anything in return! I say that the closest thing in life to... the unconditional love... The closest thing to it but not exactly the same as it... It can be exactly the same sometimes... It's the love of the mother for her child! This is the closest thing! -Even between a mother and her child, there is no unconditional love! -That's why I tell you that maybe some of them...

The mother... The reason for saying that is... -You can make your mother upset for years... -Yes. and when you apologize to her, she will forgive you immediately! -They are affectionate! -If you make the husband or the wife upset for 2 months... or 6 months... -They won't forgive you! -True! -If you broke someone heart that you love, they wouldn't forgive you! -True! -I don't criticize! This is the nature of humans so... Unconditional love... I feel it exists in movies and books only... Even the mother needs appreciation! -True. -Like thanking her for the food, for example.

-If I say thank you... -When I cook, I don't wait for a thank you! -There is a return! -How would you feel if you cooked for your husband for a year and he never said thank you? -That's not nice! -and you say that it's without expectation! -Exactly, you have to expect things! -I feel that I do something to get something in return... It's like business... Business is all about exchanges. We exchange with each other. -But you said it's without expectation! -In love...

I don't do something because I expect something in return... -Is your fiance's name Ramy? -Yes, Ramy. -Ramy, don't thank her for a year! !إنه شخص لطيف- -I am telling him not to thank you! -He always thanks me! -We need to play this game now because... you will call me after a year and say that I was right! And that he doesn't thank you! I feel that this is necessary. Even kindness... If you send me a sweet message... and tell me that you enjoyed sitting with me... and I give a thumbs up to your message!

You will say that I'm so rude because you were so kind to me and I gave you a thumbs up only! There must be a return! I say that sometimes... It's a nice thing... I don't make people feel that... it's a bad thing to expect something. All of us should expect kindness... and appreciation! That's it! I don't say that... because you brought me a flower, I will bring you a flower... -It's not necessary, thank you is enough. -I'm like that... -Let's agree that kindness should be there all time. -But that is a return! Let's say it's neutral... and not negative.

If you cooked me the best meal you cooked in your whole life... Good? and I ate it and didn't say anything... What would you do? -I will tell you something. -I didn't say bad words! -I yook a taxi once, and taxi is a service I pay for... -but I'm still have to be kind to the driver... -True! -I greet him when I get into the car or tell him "Are you having a good day?"... and thank him when I get out of the car... Why should I tell him that when I have already paid for the service? -You were raised well! !أنا أختار أن أكون لطيفة-.

-I feel that... being kind has no return... this is one of the basics of life. -That's nice, I agree with you. I stopped you only when you said that you do things without expecting anything in return. -I have to tell him that I want a gift for the meal. -Not like that... A kind word leaves a beautiful impact on you. That's like... Someone talks to his girlfriend and tell her... "I know you're busy all day, but when you sent me a message while I know that you were busy.

you have no idea how much you made me happy!". -You see! -True! -A kind word! If she sent him a message between 6 meetings... and he didn't reply to her until he got home... No! And he would say that he isn't upset but busy! A kind word makes a difference. -I have to be my partner's priority! My husband should send me messages between meetings. -He has to! Good! That's what we meant... between you and Ramy... May both of you be well!

-there is an age gap. -True. -What is the age gap between you both? -14 Years. -Is this a positive or a negative thing? -Both! -What is the positive thing and the negative thing? -I'll tell you our story with the age gap... -Okay. -When we first met... and then got engaged... we were living in... !مرحلة إنكار. that age isn't important! -It's just a number! -Yes, it's just a number... and doesn't affect anything because we felt that... we took it as a challenge!

And over time... big differences have appeared! We thought that they are... because of me or because of him... but in the end we said no... that's because... he is a 38 years old man and sees a matter from his own perspective... and I'm a 24 years old girl... and see it with a different perspective. So, we discovered that there is a 14 years gap... that should be filled to be close to each other.

There are things... ... which is positive... I love listening... So, I love listening to him when he is talking... I think that I learn many things from him... ... He is responsible... I like the person to be responsible... Because I'm responsible since I was a child, so... I like that he is responsible. ... The negatives... He doesn't love my TikTok trends! He really hates them!

-There must be a middle ground! He should dance with you on TikTok! Dot it, Ramy! -Once a year. -Please! -No, I think... There are many things. I won't remember everything exactly... But of course there are things... which are nice and not nice... in this age gap! -You know that on social media... Even the celebrities like Jason Statham... and his wife... Who are among the married people who have a big age gap between them...

-It's 14 years as well! -14? -Yeah. -So... there are many people like that... and when you are on TikTok... especially TikTok, and go through the comments, you will find different opinions about this age gap! There are... The nice thing about that... -is that there isn't only one solution... -True! -There is no one answer or formula... there is no one equation for all those things! There are people with a big age gap between them, but it's not obvious. And other people face a big problem because of that.

-True. -That's why I wanted to know your perspective. -I like it, honestly. -Yes. -Always... I don't know how... Sometimes, when you're young, you say things and when you grow older, they come true. I don't know how! But since I was young, all my relatives used to say that... I will get married to a man in his forties! Because since I was young, they used to say that I'm way ahead of my age... and when I grew up older... !وسأتزوج وهو عمره ثمانية وثلاثون عاماً. So, I think... It's...

!هذا كان مُقدر له الحدوث. -If you didn't know your age, how old would you feel mentally? -Maybe... 39! -Older than Ramy! -Okay! -I think I would be 39. -Maybe that's why you both are compatible. -Yeah. -Maybe.

-Sometimes... -And Ramy is 38... both of you remain at the age of 38! -Sometimes, he has to act less serious for my sake... and sometimes, I have to act more mature for his sake! The relationship is not that perfect, though! Good and bad things exist... We need to understand how to handle each other when it comes to difficult situations. Adapting with... What do they call it? -Since when have you been engaged? -More than a year. -Do you feel that making the engagement period long is a good thing?

-Yes. -Not because you did that, I mean in general! -Honestly, I suffered... because my engagement lasted too long... and I hate that a lot! -Okay! -I'm with the idea that says... If your circumstances don't allow for marriage, don't do that forcefully. There is no law that says that the engagement period is 6 months... Who put that law? Who? Or it must be a year! If it lasted more than a year, then it's not going to work!

This is a problem, you don't love each other, he isn't serious, he doesn't want you, and you don't take it serious... No! I have been engaged since October... in 2000... -2023? -2023 Yes. For how long now? -More than a year? -Yes, more than a year. -I will get married in April... -Okay! -Let's say a year and a half... Those are our circumstances and I like it!

I love to experience all phases. When we were in a relationship... We lived this phase... and now, we are engaged and we will get married... and then we will have children... It's step by step. -As you said... There is an Egyptian saying that says... "Everyone to their own taste!". -What? -It means that everyone acts according to what suits them. And there is a Yemeni saying that says... "Everyone is happy in their own way!".

-Everyone is happy in their own way! -Yeah! Why are you upset for him, he is happy that way! -True! -I agree with you regarding people's interference... Because people apply their standards... and theories on others. Let's say that I believe that the engagement period should lasts only 6 months... and say that everyone should apply that! No, that may suits you only... -Not for all people. -True. But the person has a good intention and... think that because something suited me, it will suit you! That's not necessarily going to happen!

-We aren't alike! We are 5 siblings in the house... and no one of us is like the other. I know that! We are a family... and we were raised together... The same upbringing, the same food, the same father... We aren't alike! -So, imagine how different all people are! -True! -I know that some people... are afraid and say that if the engagement period lasts too long, people will start to hesitate... and not get married. You really feel... when a someone's engagement lasts for too long... he starts to say... They call it in English "cold feet".

!سوف تشعر بالتردد-. Regardless of anything! But in our relationship, Ramy tells me... هل تشعرين بالتردد؟. and I would tell him, yes! !ارتدي جوارب-. -No, I feel that... marriage has a certain fearfulness! It's so serious! So, I think... If my engagement lasted for 6 months, a year, or 3 years... I would have a cold feet! !هذا طبيعي.

!يعجبني أنكِ تقولين أن هذا طبيعي لأنه فعلاً طبيعي-. One day you are excited, and the next day you are hesitant... !وأنا أختار الزواج-. With the overthinking that happens... I want to get married to that person because I love him! -Give me... الأوراق؟- !أنا أحب الألعاب. -I have 2 games! -A card game and another game. Mashallah!

-I'll fix my sitting position! -Be comfortable! !رائع، هناك الكثير-. Do you have the Kokology game too? Prepare it! Just give it to me now, if... we reached to it. Okay! Good! -Let's start! -Let's see! -All of that! -We will see what suits you! ... Quick questions! What did you want to be when you grow up?

-You told me that. -True. -Okay. -You are 5 siblings... -Yes. -Answer quickly. Who is the funniest among you? -Sidra. Who is the most dramatic one? -Sheira. !أنا آسفة. -Who is the one you can leave on a deserted island and not worry about? ... Oh my! I think Shireen!

-Who gives best advice? -Galal. -Who was the most rebellious one? -Sidra. -Who is the pickiest eater? -Me! -Who is the one who resembles your personally? -No one! We aren't alike! -No one? -No! -Who takes fame more seriously than necessary?

... -Who takes fame more seriously than necessary? To be honest... I feel... maybe that would be me, but still... I feel that we don't resemble other celebrities. -Okay. -We treat it like... -Amusement! -Not amusement but... I mean... It's like a hobby... that we do and enjoy. If we take it more seriously, I think we will transcend boundaries!

-Really? -Yeah. -If you could live the life of one of them for a day, who would you choose? -live the life of one of my siblings... !أظن سيدرا. -Okay. Why? -Because she lives in her own world! -Okay! You started creating your content on YouTube when you were 15? -True! -If you had a daughter, would you let her start creating her content when she is 15? -No! -Why?

-I think... because I went through this... I know... the challenges I have faced... and I don't want my daughter to face these challenges at a young age... -I love your honesty! If you had to delete one social media platform forever, which one would it be? She blushed! -TikTok! -TikTok, Really?! Okay!

Because Ramy don't dance with you? !ربما-. -Good! Would you choose to lose all your money or all your followers? -I choose to lose all my money. I can make more money! -What is the rumor about you that made you laugh? -A rumor about me that made me laugh? ... Wait, let me remember... Rumors always exist!

Every time, they spread rumors about my breakup, I read the comments which say "Does Narin knows about that?". !أظن أجل. There are a lot of rumors! There is nothing specific. -What is the most emoji you use? -Which look like this. -Which one is that? -The half sad one. -Half sad? -The one who is acting cute. -You have to show us! -Please, show him! -We will put it in the clip by itself.

-What is the flaw or habit you wish to get rid of? -A flaw or habit I wish to get rid of... -I need time, okay! ...أظن. I don't like it but I don't want to get rid of it... that I'm... !مندفعة. -Why you don't want to get rid of it? Being impulsiveness? -Because sometimes you have to be fast and impulsive.

Maybe, sleeping late! -I sleep very late. -I sleep at 3 o'clock. Almost! -No! -Do you stay up more than that? -Yes! -Oh! -Until 3 o'clock is okay. -I used to stay up until 8 or 7 am... and lately, I sleep at 5 am! -I love staying up. -I love night. -Me too! -I never sleep at 10 o'clock! !لا أستطيع فعل هذا- -If I stayed up until 2 am... I feel that it's so nice!

From 2 am till 9 am... Try to sleep for 7 hours. !حظ سعيد- -I don't sleep less than 7 hours. -Good luck! You sleep at 2 am! -That happens sometimes, but rarely! But I sleep at 3 am more! Describe your relationship with Narin in one word. -My relationship with Narin... ... Maybe I tire myself sometimes.

-In just one word! -You made it difficult! My relationship with Narin in one word... -Yalla! -Yalla? -Why? -I do many things that way! -She has to watch Mel Robbins' episode. The book "Let them". There is a book titled "Let them". !سوف أقرأه- -We hosted the author on ABtalks. -Really! -She says many nice things. The things you said can be applied! -I'm a book expert! -I felt that!

-From Syria! Okay. What is the strangest dream you have had? -I dream a lot. -Okay. What is the strangest one? -Every day, I dream 4 or 5 times! The strangest dream... I was with Batman! -Really? -Yes. -Okay, where did you go? By the car? -There were 2 times... once, I was with Batman... he came to take me by car and then went to his house...

and Ramy saw us! !كان الأمر سيئاً. -Cheating with Batman is a strong thing, honestly! -It wasn't cheating, he was just Batman. The second time, I went to the water park with Superman! -Mashallah! You experienced all the roles! -I love Batman the most! I made a whole photoshoot as batman. -Really? -Yes. -With a world-renowned photographer. He made me wear the clothes of Batman. He is an artist! It was very cool, I will show you the pictures later.

... What is the thing that you can't forgive? ...أظن-. Harm... with premeditation! -Explain more! -I mean that you... plan and think to harm someone. I don't forgive that! -It's the first time to hear this answer!

!حقاً-. -Have you heard about the cube question? -What is that? -Exactly! -When they say that, it means they haven't heard about it! We will play a fantasy game. -Okay! -I will need your imagination. ... -My imagination is vast! I was with Superman and Batman in my dreams... Okay! So... ... -Everything is okay? -Yes, I'm okay!

Close your eyes... and imagine with me... ... Imagine a barren desert with nothing in it! Okay! It has nothing, even you aren't in it! and suddenly, Narin, you see a cube. Describe the cube for me. -Do you want me to describe its shape? -Yes, how is it? -Is it big or small? -It's big! -What is the size of it? -Its size...

... Maybe 4 meters. -Okay, and... Is it on the surface of the desert, or is it flying, or is it immersed with the sand? -On the surface of the desert. -Okay. Is it transparent or solid? -It's made of glass. -Can you see what's inside? -Yes. -Okay. After you had seen the cube, ... you saw a ladder suddenly... Where is it? I saw stairs inside the house!

-We will see that later! Now, tell me where is the ladder you are imagining? -The ladder? -Yes. -Beside me! -It can be inside... It's up to you, but it's a ladder. If you saw it inside the cube first, you can say that. -It's inside the cube. -Okay. -Is this ladder longer or shorter than the cube? -Shorter! -Shorter than the cube, okay... and is it new or old? -It's made of wood and old. -Okay! Does it have more than 12 steps or less?

... -Do you mean stairs? -It's ladder! -Okay, ladder! ... No, more than 12 steps. -Okay, beside the ladder, Narin... You see a horse... Where is the horse? -Your questions are strange! A horse... -Outside the cube. -Where?

It would be an apartment if it's inside the cube! It's outside. -Do you want everything to be inside the cube? -No, wherever it is in the desert. We saw a cube in the desert... and then saw the ladder inside the cube, right? Where is the horse? -It's outside of the cube. -Where? Is it near or far? -It's beside me. -Beside the cube? -No, beside me. -Wait, I'm not there, right? -Yes, you're just seeing it, -but you're not really there. -So, beside the cube. -Beside it. Okay. Is it standing up? -Is it saddled up? -No, it's not.

-Okay then, what does it look like? -It's white. -White! -Is it standing in one place? -Yeah. -Is it strong, weak, ... What is it like? -It looks like a model horse, really beautiful. -After that, you see flowers... Flowers that just appeared... Where are they?

-All around the cube. -Okay. -Are there a lot of flowers, or just a few? -No, just a few. -Okay. Are they blooming or wilting away? -They're blooming. -Okay. -Lastly, you see a storm. Where is it?

-Honestly, I see it inside the cube. -Okay then, inside the cube... Is it affecting any of the things you mentioned before? The horse, the ladder, or even the cube itself? Did it move anything? -No, it didn't. -It moved nothing? -Okay, now open your eyes. Do you need it? -Okay. -Did I pass? -This is called "The Kokology Cube Test". It was invented by a Japanese psychiatrist.

-Did I pass? -There is no passing or failing. -Why must there be passing? I'll explain it to you now. -Go on then. -Okay. -After that, you tell me if the interpretation is right. The cube represents the "ego", or how you feel about yourself. You said it was 4 meters by 4 meters cube. So, you have a medium size. Neither like Burj Khalifa or a huge building, nor it's small. You have a 4 by 4. ... Okay, then... I'll interpret for you the big cube and the.

small one, so you can understand the medium. The big cube means that you're very confident, that you're bold and strong, and that you want to be seen. The small one means that you're humble, timid and introverted, And you prefer to blend in with others. You're somewhere in the middle. Neither of the two extremes. The cube being just on the surface of the desert. means a stability in life. and that you know well what you want and you work hard to achieve it. Your cube wasn't opaque, meaning it was transparent. THis means that your inner world, and your attitude towards life are still forming.

It is still... Okay. The ladder represents family and friends, which you said is inside you. You being the cube! -I am the cube? -Yes. and your family and friends are inside it. You're the first... She's the first one to say this answer! So, they're inside you, or an integral part of you. ... If the ladder touches the cube, or like you, it's inside the cube, means that you're not wholly dependent.

on you friends and family, However, you depend on them sometimes for support and guidance. If the ladder is short, this means that you consider yourself a leader, or an "Alpha". -Did I say it was short or...? -You said it is shorter than the cube. -Oh right! -Okay! -Now, I imagine that in your family you're more of a "Doer". An old ladder means that you know your friends from a very long time,

or that you know them very well. More than 12 steps reflects that you have just a few friends. but that you enjoy the company of your acquaintances. -Wow! -The horse is your ideal partner, So, it's Rami. Rami was beside the cube, so beside you. A horse near the cube represents a strong relationship. Being without a saddle means that you can't control your partner. and you can't predict his actions. The fit horse means that you want a dependable partner.

-And you said a model horse. -Oh my God! -The flowers represent children. You said a few flowers, and that represents the number of kids you want. You said just a few! You said they were blooming, and that reflects the health of your kids. their growth, and your relationship with them. You said they were close to the cube, You wish for your relationship with your kids to be strong.

The storm. It represents the fears, the pressure, the threats and the feeling of anxiety. You said it was inside of you! However, I asked you. If the storm affected any of the elements, and you said it didn't. So, you think the threats are controllable, and you are confident in your ability to overcome the difficulties. -This thing is terrifying! -Completely. -But do you know why it's good? It's good because it plays on your subconscious mind.

So, I use it sometimes, for the guests who're not familiar with it, as a test. So, they would tell me the story of their life, then I would do the test. And if the answers match what they said, this means that the person is honest, transparent and aware, meaning that he understands himself well. Some people's answers don't match what they said. You said that you wanted someone who's older and responsible. and the test showed that you wanted someone dependable. Plus, you actually love someone like that. You said that family takes up a big part of your life especially your siblings. And in the test, they were inside you.

You have just a few acquaintances, and I feel like you're neither an extrovert nor an introvert. -you're just in the middle. -Spot on! -Also, you love kids, and you want kids, with a close relationship. If the kids were inside the cube, it doesn't always have a good interpretation. Because it's a co-dependent relationship! -You see. -Oh my God! Wow! -Cool, right? -It's very cool. -I'll screen record this part. -as soon as the video's out. -He's doing it for you. -Please cut this part and send it to me!

-Oh wow! -It's scary. -Before the video's out, do the test with Rami and your friends. -But I'll need the explanation. -Just google: "kokology Cube Test". -You'll know much more. -But everything was spot on! I really have a storm inside me, of anxiety. -I have... -I already knew, so I was like "yeah, okay". I can tell. -Event at the beginning of the episode, You said you're facing a lot of new things and responsibilities. -True. -So, you see, the interpretation.

corresponds with the answer of the first question, when I asked, "How are you?". -Yay! I'm happy. -She's experienced. Look at how she's mixing the cards. -Great! Let's see you luck today. -I play cards a lot. -Yeah, it shows. Choose one! Okay. I'll ask you the question. and this will show you how to answer. You just throw it on the ground. Who's the person you miss the most at this moment? Now, throw it.

Be open. So, complete honesty. -Who's the person...? -At this exact moment. -At this exact moment? -Yes. ... -Let me think about it. -It doesn't need thinking. It's a feeling. -I know. I am just trying to figure out whom I missing? The most in this exact moment... I think, at this exact moment,

it's my siblings, because they were in Qatar. and I saw them for less the half an hour, and I had to travel. Now, we haven't seen each other for a week. -Yeah. -Okay. -I swear this is the truth. -That's all what we want! It's evident that you're at peace with yourself, that you're honest. Okay, Narin. ... -What are you afraid of? -For me? From everything! -Give me an example. What are you most afraid of in life?

-Your greatest fear. -My greatest fear? I am afraid that... the table might turn at any moment. Because I have experienced it before. Maybe it's trauma. or some sort of complex that I have. And I'm afraid of death. A lot. I am afraid of... something happening to someone I love...

I am afraid. I fear a lot of things. -Do you have a lot of stress? Generally? -Yeah. -Did you ever lose someone you love? -I lost family members... from my father's side, and my mother’s too. -And in you family? Someone close? -No. -Unfortunately, it will happen one day. -I know. -Unfortunately. That's life.

-When you're 43 years old, you'd have witnessed a lot of people die. -I always wish it'll be my time before theirs. -Don't say that. -Why? -I don't like people who says that because I feel like it's very selfish. Because there is no parent that should bury his child. -Yeah, of course. -There shouldn't be. -Their heart would be broken, and they would never recover from it. You wouldn't want this for any of your parents. That they must continue living after burying their daughter.

-This shouldn't happen! -Hey! Don't say these things! -I am telling you, never wish for that. Because you parents would never want this. I think that it's the circle of life, That we bring to the world children, and we leave the world before them. That's the circle of life, the child must know that one day his parents will leave. You must then use this time with them, and love them as much as you can, so, you don't regret later not showing you true feeling. And when this time comes to an end, you wish for them a peaceful departure.

You wouldn’t want them to be heartbroken. -True. -So, don't say that. ... -What's the most...No. What's the best advice someone told you? Or one of the best? One you never forgot. -The best piece of advice...?

... -Give me some time. Let me think. -Even it took you 10 minutes! -There's one that just came to my mind, and I am happy that I listened to it. ... -Someone once told me "Do as many errors as you can while young, because you would've learned from it when older.".

And that's what I did, I did a lot of things. -And you finished them all! -Yes, I finished early. I am all with the idea of. while young, try, trip, get up and learn. And do this when you become old. Because when you're old, you'll regret no doing a lot of things. And a mistake when you're older, It's... because I'll have kids and responsibility, the mistake wouldn't just affect me, but my whole family.

-What's the most hurtful thing someone ever told you and you never overcame it? -The most hurtful thing someone ever told me? -You know, I have a really bad memory. -I always forget things. -Me too. -I swear. -You do forget? -Yes, a lot.

-So bad. -Format for everything every night! -I swear to God. -Something hurtful someone has told me... I swear I don't remember anything, but I never leave anything in my heart. If someone said something hurtful, I always have a comeback. And I usually forget after that. -Did someone ever said something to you that made your heart ache before? Do you recall a certain moment? a certain news or a phone call?

... -Truly sometimes your heart aches! Before, when I heard in series, "My heart aches", I didn't believe it. But when I got older, I learned that your heart can really hurt. -You actually feel pain in your heart. -There is a link between... According to a scientist I heard once, there is a link between the brain and the stomach, and that's your gut feeling. There is a link between the brain and stomach. and a link between the heart and the brain. There's actually one. So, whoever says my heart aches. or "Oh! I love him", why do they put a hand on their heart?

And not on their head? It's always like this. So, there is a connection. But I'll have to get you the exact information. And any viewer need to do their research, but there's certainly a connection. -I once read that... when describe a pain, if you went through it, it will be really similar. Meaning that when you say... "It felt like a slap in the face". your brain knows that the pain is similar to the slap's. That's why you describe it like that.

A thing someone told me... ... Well, we hear a lot of things... -If nothing came to your mind, it's okay. -I don't remember. Do you have any regrets? -No. -Is there something you'd change in the past if you have a time machine,

whether it's something you did or said? -Did or said? Sometimes I regret a few things, but this is merely for a couple of seconds. After that I realise that I shouldn't have regretted anything. I think that whatever the things that happened to me. it made me who I am today. And if it didn't happen, I don't know what would have been of me.

-How is your mental health? -Good. -Generally speaking, throughout your life, is it stable? Or are you sometimes happy and some others depressed? -Have you ever suffered from depression? -No. -I started taking life, one day at a time. Some days, I could be full of energy. And some other days I could only have 30% of energy. I am aware of these times, and I make sure everyone around me knows.

-that I only have 30%. -Nice! -By the end of the day I must always have 5% so I can relax in bed. So every day, it depends. There is no periods... Of course, there are some difficult times, but I always feel like the difficult times are more important than the good ones. -In my opinion. -That's if you learned from them. -Yeah, I feel like... when we're happy, we're just laughing,

we're having a good time and we don't think. When we're sad, we think a lot. And I think... For example, when I am sad, ... I always sort my priorities. I always try to figure out why it happened, the reason behind it. I think that sadness is what teaches me, more than the happiness. -When was the last time you cried?

-The last time I cried? I am always crying! -My tears fall easily. -What makes you sad? -Let me... I am a crier. Just a moment...

I think it was 3 days ago. What does the homeland mean to you? Because you lived in a lot of places, and you have a Kurdish background, and you have Sweden, Syria, and the whole world! -Homeland? -Yes. ... -It's really hard to say. For someone who went through all this, it's hard for me to tell you what homeland is.

I think it's wherever I feel safe. It's where my family... and everyone I love is. That's my homeland. I lived in a lot of places, and I never felt like they're a homeland. My homeland is my family's home.

-Great. Okay Narin, let's imagine... If you... You have a huge imagination, so, imagine with me. Imagine the last day of your life, you've already built a family, you have your husband and kids around you, and your siblings, and everyone you love, standing around your death bed.

And God blessed you with this beautiful death. What does every one who loves you, cherish you and depend on you in this world... should hear from you before you die? -I don't know!

I don't know. I feel like... I am not crying because I'll die, I am crying because... I think every one of them will have their own piece of advice. That's for sure.

The most important one, is that... they mustn't hurt each other... even by just a word. Are we talking about my siblings or...? -Your siblings, your kids... -That they don't hurt each other even by just a word. ...

That they must support each other, because they only have each other. ... And that they must do good deeds in this world because it always comes back! Certainly. -Last two questions. -Last what? -Two questions. -Is there some tissue around? -Yes, there is. Can you guys get her some tissues. -I was happy that we were finishing up the interview without me crying! -It's not a challenge to defeat!

It's good for the interview to have everything. All emotions. Sadness, joy, laughter... -What would be your advice? I would love to know. Thanks. -What advice? -If you're... God forbids. -No one ever asked me this question! I haven't even asked myself! What you said before you spoke to me.

When you said: "They only have each other". I feel like that's so important. For me, home and family are important. And we have a tight family. We're very close. Me, my mother and my siblings. -We're a team. A strong team. -You're tight. That's your backbone, or the pillar. Everything is built on top of this relationship. So, one of the things I'll say, and I'll copy and paste... -one of the things you said. -Really? -I'll tell them that they only have each other in the end.

In this world, fame comes and goes, some people love you and some curse you, but family is always there. -Exactly -And family always doesn't come cheap. It's an investment. An investment how? Just like you said, you and your mom eat with each other once a week. You and Rami go on a trip once every two months. You and your siblings do a book-club together, or you play paddle together, or you go on a walk in the garden.

That's an investment! Even if you're not in the mood, and your sister asked you to walk with her because she needs you, You'll go with her. That's an investment. The people who think that a family is tight... just because they share the same blood! -Never. -Right. That's why for example on Sundays I like to be in the country... because I always have lunch in my mother's home. I try to plan my trip around it so, I can be there on Sundays. I feel like that's one of the most important things. And maybe...

I'll tell them... There is no inheritance or riches more important... other than good reputation. So, one should leave this world after having a positive impact. Otherwise, your life would have been in vain. -It would have been of no importance. -True. -If you were born and lived 80, 60, 50 or even 90 years in this world... and you never added something, you never made humanity, people, your family and yourself better,

-Then, what did you do with your life? -True. -It's vain. You smoked, laughed and cursed, and then what? So, the true legacy is that... after your death, they say: "Do you remember Narin? She was such a good person and she never hurt anyone. She always made those around her laugh.". And they wouldn't find any bad thing to say about you. "Look at her kids.". They are very disciplined! It's all because of their mother.".

-Right. -This is legacy. And that's it! -I'll add something. I'll advise them to live their life to the fullest. Because I'll be on my death bed, and you only live once, so, of course I'll tell them that. -True. ... If we took out Narin's heart, what would Narin's heart tell Narin? -Oh my God!

-Why? -What would Narin's heart say? It'll say... I think my heart is happy of me. -That's amazing. -Yeah. -It's happy? -Yeah. -Good. Good job. -I think it's happy of me, yeah. -Maybe it'll tell me that I made him angry, sad or stressed sometimes... but in general, I think it's happy. -Finally, Narin in just one word.

... -I think I'll say... -Defying. -Defying? -Yeah. -Why?

-I feel like I face a lot of challenges. Even in general, I make a challenge out of my work. That's why I said "Defying". -It's defying then! -Thanks. -Thank you. -Thank you, Narin. -Thank you so much. -Did you enjoy? -Yes, a lot. -The best thing about your episode is that you can find everything in it. -Really? -Everything, all the spices. -I like episodes like this because I feel like they're very rich. I mean... -Did you like it? -I did yeah.

-I feel like everything was good. The energy, the place, and even the birds' chipping! It's quiet. Thanks God there was no noise.