#ABtalks with Mohammed Ramadan | Chapter 242 | مع محمد رمضان
If you could be number one. but only in one field. Would you choose acting or singing? I was born seeing the pyramid. my whole ambition was maybe. that I wanted to touch. those three pyramids. This little boy. This little boy. What do you feel his view of. this person in front of me would be? ”The word “star” is a wrong word”. I'd say, because a star. has to be seen from China. and be seen from Egypt. Do you think. you're arrogant? I am sorry, if your show was not successful. I swear I wouldn't come. and what did you learn.
about Mohamed. after your first divorce? It's something very rare. when your heart and mind both choose one person. How many times have you loved? in that way? What is the hardest. period you have gone through in your life? for a second. life stopped. for me. and my brother was crying. I said to him, ”Don't you love your father?”. Do you feel there is a word. you wish your father. heard from you before. he passed away? The long awaited interview.
In general, I don't sit with the guests. before the episode. Generally, you may not know this. but 90% of the guests. I sit with them. for the first time in my life. on the interview chair. But Mohamed. Look how fate worked. We were in Paris. At the Fashion Week. And we were at. The Amiri fashion show. and they chose. I think, maybe. our team also chose... There were tables at the show. And at every table there were people. Two. Two persons. at each table.
It was a nice idea. I sat and they said to me, ”Do you know who will sit with you?”. I said, ”Who?”. ”Mohamed”. I said, ”Oh, I never met him”. I think we spent half the time. watching the show. and half the time chatting. It happened. Then Mohamed said, Let's go have dinner. We went and had dinner. And we got into conversations. So, I feel that I was able to see. Mohamed between the lines. And I think he felt that Anas. could also see me a little between the lines. That's true. Then, Time passed, and Mahmoud. would talk to us sometimes.
disappear sometimes. and come back sometimes. Mohamed got busy, I got busy. So, I always believe. in timing. That's true. I thank you for. sitting here talking to me. a very short while after. after your father passed away. I know it's not. something simple. But, it's timing. Glory be to God. I think this is the time. people may need to hear from you. many things are happening in your life. I enjoyed the episode very much. Me too. - Very, very much - And you? Honestly, really.
You know? You pierce through. the conscience and mind. You create a state. of brainstorming. a beautiful one, indeed. You stir emotions. You touch parts deep inside. Like you said, You focus on the. human side. more than the professional side. Which is full of noise. and chaos. and conflicting talk.
and contradictory opinions. So I thank you very, very, very much. I thank you too. My dear. I always say, ”It takes two to tango”. Some people say, Anas. you were brilliant in this episode. I say, it is not just me. They have to dance with me. We both have to dance together. otherwise it does not work. - Ping pong - It's a must. If I play alone, the ball will go and not come back. I will just sit there scratching my head with the racket. No use. So, I hope you like the episode. and I hope it shows you. one or more angles. of Mohamed. you're not used to seeing. We talked for a long while.
so be patient. have fun, get yourself iced tea and sit down. I said iced tea because I love it. So, enjoy. Support us. with our program. so that we can always bring you. the stories and minds that. God willing, you will hear from. Whoever loves Mohamed. Love him even more. And support him. Support our Arab talents. wherever they are. Those who. don't understand him. Give him a chance. Listen to these couple of hours. then decide. then you can judge. but we don't cut anything. This is his story.
Will the episode be published. on your YouTube channel? Now we have collabs. You can do collabs. - On YouTube - That's right. For my subscribers as well. He will kindly make. a collab for me. between me and you. So, I like it. And it makes me happy that my audience. and his audience. will meet in a. I mean, in. one video. and talk to each other. in the comments below.
and start topics. and we will also reply to you. If there are any questions. about the episode. We can take some time. - and answer them - Sure. I would love to. Done, enjoy.
Let's begin. In the name of God. To start with,
How are you really doing, Mohamed? Honestly, thank God. I'm in the best state. and truly blessed. and with great grace from God. If I ask you. In this phase of Mohamed’s life. If. You could. Turn your gaze, instead of looking at me. Turn it inward. and look at your mind. And your mental state. How is Mohamed doing in this period?
I mean, this period. Is a period where I am discovering. So many things. about my personality. and so many things. in life in general. I started to see. life in a different way. For many reasons, there are. many factors that led to this. among them. that we are growing older. and through life experiences.
and professional experiences. some things in my personal life. Like. My father’s passing. May God have mercy on him. and grant him the highest place in Paradise. I started, maybe also. this is the first person. I have ever lost. I mean. to pass away within the circle. the small inner circle of my life. I mean, I. my paternal and maternal grandfathers. and my grandmothers. from my father’s and my mother’s sides. All passed away before I was born. So, I never saw.
The idea was new to me. someone I live with. and talk to every day. and he passes away. We're very close friends. but we only meet at long intervals. a shock. takes place, but after that. it's okay. My father's situation was. that something very strange happened. Sometimes, I remember that. I would, for example. when I imagined.
while I was driving or sitting alone. I would imagine that, for example. That it's the way of life. that one day. your father or your mother. May God give. my mother May God give. my mother. health and a long life in what pleases Him. That they will have to go. So I used to imagine. How I would feel. and I would break down. crying. alone. just at the idea. I would only imagine. while my dad. was doing okay then. The moment my father died. this didn't happen to me at all.
So I was really surprised. In reality, you would expect. it to be much harder. I don't know if, for example. he prayed for me. in secret before he passed away. He prayed, that God would inspire me. With patience and solace. because I was overcome by a state. that was not normal. I think this is what we wish for. For our friends. when someone dear to them dies. When we say to them, ”May God grant you patience and solace”. I didn't know what patience and solace meant.
but I felt it. to the extent that my brother. it was the first time I saw. my older brother crying. While I was in this state. I wanted to tell. to my mother that. I am in a completely new state now. That I cannot even imagine. I wanted to tell my brother. that I am feeling something. and my brother was crying. I said to him, ”Don't you love your father?”. While he was crying, so he was surprised. I said to him, ”Mahmoud, your father. died at 77 years old”.
”Your father right now, while I am sitting here with you. Is 30 years old”. The knee stiffness he had is over. Your father is now better looking and young. Also, your father was born. while his mother was giving birth to him. He never saw his mother. Your father is now with his mother. Your father is now with his father. If we really love your father. we should all be happy right now. that. first, he has gone. To the Almighty Himself. May God bless him.
with the joy of seeing God. How and when this state came to me. and whether I ever had it before. is something strange. I think it is. a prayer. from my father. a blessing from God. It's a gift. God has given me. and until now, when I remember him. I feel very reassured. and certain that he is in the best state. that he is in a much better place. And I am certain. and feeling peace about him. When I went after his death.
on my own. to the cemetery. and visited him. I felt at ease. I felt that we are the ones he feels sorry for. I felt that. in reality now, I am sure that. that right now he feels sorry for me. that you. are in the tough gym. which is called life. When will you ever rest? When will you... God Almighty says in the Quran. ”The worldly life is nothing but play and amusement''. The Quran has many interpretations.
I know there are people who have other interpretations, that it's play and amusement. but even play has rules. Take football, for example. It has rules. Boxing has rules. There is no game. Even hide and seek. we used to play when we were kids. have rules. if you peek. the game is ruined. So I feel that life is a game. that has rules. but it is still a game. And the proof of that. is that the house I buy. I don't take it with me. after I leave the game. As if I bought a house inside the game.
I bought clothes. inside the game. I met someone. I felt at ease with her and loved her. So we got married inside the game. and we had kids. inside the game. but in the end I leave this game. and. my time is over. and then I go to the reality. As if you were focused on. the television while you were playing. the power cut off. the game shut off. and you started discovering around. Have I left all this? And only focused on this tiny little game?
There is something. much bigger. and there are no longer all the. annoying constraints that are placed in our lives. Like the law of gravity. every time I try to fly. I get pulled back. There are rules in this game. So. This is how I see myself now. I feel that I have become more. I became. more content. I have more. clarity about the truth. I have come to see life.
for what it really is. That doesn't mean that. I shouldn't love it. I would say. then we shouldn't work. So why are we even living? No, on the contrary. I will respect. the rules. It also answered many questions I had. When I was young. I used to think, ”Am I compelled?”. ”Or do I have a choice?”. Yes, I am compelled. in that I. didn't choose to be in this game. but I do have a choice. in the way I play. in what I choose. which field I choose. to go into. What country... I want to travel there.
No, cancel the trip. I will go there. that's up to me. I am not compelled in that. I will take this role. No, that role. No, I won't do both. I will take a break for three years. That's my choice. That's all. So, this is how I see myself now. Do you feel, Mohamed. that sometimes people. when they lose someone. they go through a state. of numbness? Temporarily. Because I. talk to people about loss a lot. Some of them never cry.
at the funeral. not even for months. They say, Anas. a year later, while driving the car. I broke down suddenly. I don't know why. So, it's like a loss. or regret. or delayed grief. Do you feel this is what you're going through? I think so, yes. Maybe. Maybe. It happened to me when I was alone. maybe two or three times. but it happened to me. only. I mean because of.
the longing. or the separation. but it didn't come to me. in the form of. maybe it came to me. in the middle of crying. I would just keep remembering moments. of my childhood. Like when he was taking me. to the club. or somewhere else. When he brought me. my exam results. or bought me something. Or when I was sitting with him. So, So it was, I mean,
but it was not regret. or sadness. because. I think that regret and sadness. are a lack of faith. In the end. I will join him. We will all go to Him. If some people died. and others did not. I think there would be regret and sadness. If, for example, a number. or a percentage of people who die. and a percentage wouldn't. we would remain in regret. Are we among those who. would meet again. or would we separate? And I am reassured for many reasons.
I always say. what before we were born. We were coming from the unknown. I hadn't signed a contract. that. when I am born, my Lord. I want to find a mother and a father. and a bed. I want to find care. When I am hungry, someone to feed me. When I cry, someone to comfort me. I didn't sign on any of that. And yet I was born. I came from the unknown. Into this new world. I found that God had. arranged everything for me.
He gave me a father and a mother. People around me. to protect me, to feed me. So the One who didn't leave you. the first time. Will not leave you the second time. When a person dies. and goes to a new life. or another world. logically and rationally. Did He leave you the first time? Had you signed a contract? and you review the contract. No, I had asked for a bed. this is a couch. No, you were. you were. depending on God. You did not know.
and you found care and. that God shapes things for you. and sends you people. and puts things at your service. and. So, that's what reassures you. Nice idea. it's the first time I think of it this way. Okay, who is. Mohamed. when there's no one around you? When you're by yourself. No fame. No people, friends or family. You're on your own somewhere, Who is this person? A person competing with me?
A person or an artist? I don't know. I mean, if you were on your own. We put you in this room without anyone. and we all leave. Okay. and you're by yourself. I don't mean imprisoned, but. when you're alone. I don't know, because you have a busy life. So it's rare. that you are alone. but when Mohamed is alone. without the kids, family or friends. without the team. without fame or cameras. you're just sitting there. I don't know. let's say somewhere in Europe. in a restaurant. just alone. Who is this person when he's on his own?
without all of this. Honestly, a very simple person. and a person who might be. passing his time by thinking. I mean, I like. to contemplate. I like to think about anything. maybe. if I am sitting alone, I enjoy sitting and thinking about something. I can spend eight hours thinking. I think, and I have to end up. with a conclusion. I might ask, for example. so and so person, Why did he fail?
That becomes the title of the idea. then I sit and think. and since such and such. and since such and such. and since such and such. and I keep arriving at conclusions. and lessons learned. So, a normal person is a thinking person. someone who likes to think. But I don't like. I really don't like to draw. for example, I mean I don't. I don't. I mean. That's all.
Okay, sum up. your childhood in three words. In three words? My childhood in three words. I want them to be exactly. - three words - Take your time.
I mean. My childhood in three words. Simple. Content. Ambitious. That was my childhood. ever since I was a kid. like any child. and I feel that I'm. very content and very happy.
with every day. I spent in my childhood. but all the time I have. great ambition. Since you were young? Yes, since my childhood. The ambition might change, but I always have something I want to do. something I want to reach. Since I was a child. What was the first thing you felt. you aspired to? Do you remember? Honestly, there is a situation I once talked about. Once in my life. The place where I was born. in Giza governorate.
an area called. Al Qasabji. in Al Moneeb. It's an agricultural area. and maybe we were. only four houses. everything around us was farmland. and of course. as I started to grow up, the street started to have around eight houses. but we all knew each other very well. and we were the only two. Muslim houses in the street. I mean. our house and the one next to us. and the rest of the street were all Christians.
So, there was. the place where I. was born, my house faced farmland. and at the very end. were the three pyramids. So, I was born. and ever since I was. a little child. I would see the three pyramids. not from. not from the roof. I see them from the street. When I stand in front of the house. I can see. the three pyramids. So, I really wanted to know. how to go to them.
I mean, I see farmland. and at the end. three pyramids. This ambition kept haunting me, my whole ambition was maybe. that I wanted to touch. those three pyramids. And in a child's imagination, I thought that when I reached them, I would find them the same size. that I was seeing. I see a certain size, so I thought that when I got closer. I would find them the same size. I remember, in second grade. second or third grade of primary school. I decided that I.
would take water in my bag. and sandwiches. and I wouldn't go to school. and instead of going to school, I would just keep walking straight. until I reached the pyramids. So, I kept walking. maybe starting at seven in the morning. and of course I got lost. I mean, there was. a canal cutting across. I think it's called Al Zomor. and another canal called. Al Mariouteya. There was nothing to get me across the canal, so I had to walk along it to find the way.
so I got lost, I no longer knew what was. right and what was left. or up and down. then the time came. for school to end. and I had not reached the pyramids. and of course on this trip. there was a field planted with rice. so the mud came up to here. and my shoes started sinking in. and in the farmland. they had put guard dogs. so the dogs ran after me. It was a very hard journey. then the time came. for school to end. and I had not reached the pyramids.
and I went home, of course. covered in mud, and I went home long after school had ended. I couldn't return home walking. I was lost. and I had never gone outside. my own area. so they told me, No, you have to take transport to Giza. and from Giza you take. I don't know what. I ended up going home at night. and of course my mother beat me. because. she had gone to the school, and they said he did not come. She thought I had been kidnapped. or something must have happened. and that day. remained a nightmare in my life.
even. as I strive. or when. the dream of acting began. to haunt me. every time I get a good opportunity. I remember this pyramid story, that you might be seeing your dream. but not know how to touch it. I was born seeing the pyramid. but that day kept. doing something very big. to my mind. maybe at that time. my only ambition was to touch the pyramid. And you didn't visit the pyramids. in your childhood?
- I did of course - You did. I went many times. Yes. There is something. I read. that. when you were little. your mother. I told you it would fall. It happened. Gravity, this is the law of the earth. Leave it. give it to me. So, I read that my mother. used to sew. and women used to come to her. A great artist. Yes, she was a great artist.
- In sewing? - Yes. - and until now - Nice. Even now she makes dresses. for my daughter Kanz. and she makes. for the children in the family. and for the girls in the family. Amazing. Okay, so you were saying that. I had read. that the women used to come to her to complain. and you were good at imitating them. or sometimes. you would empathize with their stories. and feel sad. It happened. Is it true? Exactly. Okay, tell me.
I mean. When I studied acting. at the Institute of Theatrical Arts. When I entered the institute. I started to understand. an actor’s tools. what distinguishes. one actor from another. are tools. and breadth of tools. What does breadth of tools mean? That, for example, one of the most important tools of the actor. is something called. the reservoir. This reservoir has breadth. One's reservoir is this big. and someone else's reservoir is bigger. and more diverse.
and someone whose entire reservoir might be. in one single field. For example. if. if, for example. his family is in the artistic field. whether he likes it or not. the people around him. are all within the artistic field. So, we need a reservoir. for the rest of the groups. I am an actor. and an actor is supposed. to portray so many groups. when he plays a certain character. When I play this character. and that character. How will I portray them when I.
haven't experienced them. or. my relationship with them. is just talk. from a screenwriter or dialogue. so this living experience is very important. which is called the reservoir or emotional memory. The stories that used to be told in our house. I mean, with my mother. were dramatic stories. real ones. all full of emotion. and all honest. and among them are tales. that if we made them into drama.
people might say that we are exaggerating. ”There is no such thing”. So that filled my reservoir. and overflowed it. with emotions. and made me able. to believe. I mean, for example, in El Prince. an actor might. for example. play a role where his siblings. took his inheritance. The actor's mind might. refuse the idea. that there could even be siblings like that.
but he is forced to play the role. and he has to play the role. I personally, if I draw from my personal reservoir. it is impossible for this to happen. between me and my siblings. but the drama that I have seen. and the drama that was told. to my mother by. many people. are stories. that contained cruelty. more than what I might have portrayed. and that gives me. belief in the scene I am acting. and therefore you believe it. and the audience believes it.
so people are affected. and they cry. so they empathize with the character. whose daughter was thrown out in the street. the same scene might. if it were done in another series. you would not believe. its hero. you wouldn't empathize with the girl. who was thrown out into the street. because you didn't believe in the first place. Poor girl, she will be affected that way. but. I would sit and wonder. about this reaction that happened. was a reaction as if they knew the girl. and as if they.
knew her father. as if the girl who. was thrown out in the street was. the daughter of someone we know. and we're sympathizing with him. while he was in prison. and praying that he would be released. So there was a state of solidarity. that was very great, okay. Does this state of solidarity happen. or, or when I. when I came out. as a child. and as a viewer before I acted. did I experience. this state of solidarity happening. with, with. a star, for example, when I was young. did I see my friends at school.
having solidarity in this way? I did not see that. What is the secret? From my point of view. and this is what I. always tell my mother. I tell her, I feel that. the secret lies with you. I believe this. because of. what you. made me live through. in my childhood. of drama. and then my mother. used to be. she felt so sorry for those people. The woman would leave. after she had complained. and talked and cried. and then we. would eat together as a family.
my mother would be preoccupied. What's wrong my dear? ”How would they do this to her?”. So, I was living. in real drama. not thirty episodes. maybe. How old was I. when I started acting? Say fifteen years old. at fifteen years old. estimate the percentage of awareness. or when I s tarted being aware. when I was six years old. So, for example, - Nine years - Ten years. Nine. Yes, I lived in ongoing serial dramas.
several ones. for nine years. for nine years. That's Mohamed's reservoir. In everyday drama. and of course there was also comedy drama. a woman whom her mother had brought. and her family, and she was. a bit late in age. and because she was going to get married. So... She came over one time. her mother left her and went away. an older woman, but.
she was going to get married. She had grown older. and because she was older, So, She wouldn't have many suitors. So, I would hear my mother. while she was realizing that the girl. did not know anything about. Do you know what marriage means? So I was hearing this conversation. it was shameful that. there would even be. a boy sitting there. but my mom wanted him. She was happy with him.
So she discovered that the girl did not know. and indeed there was. a problem. later on, I mean. then I wanted to know in the next episode. What would happen? I mean, would this woman... She doesn't know anything about marriage. She asked her, Do you know? Did they tell you about marriage and so on? She replied, I cook. he eats. and I am hearing this. ”What a catastrophe!”. There's a man who is going to be. in for a nasty surprise. You know? So I'm dying to know.
I really wanted to know. and to attend the wedding. and see her husband. Is her husband like her? Or, I mean. Is he normal? I would be... Do you get me? So I lived for nine years in. in this kind of drama. it shaped my emotional world. also. the environment I was born into. helped me. it made me able to have. a great and vast imagination. At around seven p.m. No human sounds would come.
Only farmland. and that makes a big difference. Of course, when I grew up and started acting. and I read and started. to understand that. the philosophy of environment. which is very important. The philosophy of the profession. how it makes a difference in character. in the mind, and makes a difference. in everything. Even in. the tone of your voice. The philosophy of the profession. makes a difference. If a blacksmith, for example. his voice is loud. since he. is everyday in a place with.
loud banging. So, even at home. in a quiet place. or if he's sitting here. Man, I am telling you this and that. this is called occupational philosophy. If someone is a doctor. for example, working. in surgery or. or a diamond trader. or someone who works in something very delicate. you will find his tone of voice very low. to the point that you always want. to constantly tell him, “Sorry, what did you say?”. This is the philosophy. The environment I was born into. shaped many things in me. It made my imagination. maybe have no limits.
I set off with many dreams. and I dreamed. of things that might. be illogical. and things that had no reference. and today I started to take steps. I started before to take steps towards them. and maybe the seed started. a very long time ago. Questions I used to ask. This star that I see in the sky. Do they see it in China exactly as it is?
I would sit and ask, the star that I see from our roof. in the farmland. and there are actually no. there are not many lights, so the stars. are clearly visible. There's nothing to think about except the sky. and the stars. and there's nothing else to distract you. No distortion that would keep you. busy with anything else. maybe. The noise I'm hearing inside.
might be Umm Kulthum. My mother would play Umm Kulthum. playing Abdel Halim Hafez. That was a question I used to ask. so when I acted. and started to be called. The Egyptian star”. or “the Arab star”. Mohamed Ramadan. I would say to those around me. ”The word “star” is a wrong word”. They would ask why. I'd say, because a star. has to be seen from China. and be seen from Egypt. and be seen from Japan. and from France.
and from America. and from Mexico. This term is wrong. They say, “What do you mean?”. I say, ”It means we have to look”. ”for another term”. It could be. for example, the lighthouse. the beacon. the guiding light. I mean. For example, That's in Egypt only. The antennas. So there would be. something else. Well. Does an Arab star. for example, have. a trial just because he was born Arab.
then you have limits. on earth that you cannot cross. you cannot go beyond. you cannot do this or that? This is like a person. who was born not speaking. So he will just accept it. No. It is. you who set a ceiling. You put up excuses. and beliefs. which are all wrong. in order to hold yourself back. and so you become lazy to dream. and so that. you shut down your ambition.
and if there are. limits to your ambition. there will naturally be limits to your abilities. so your abilities will start to be destroyed. and shrink, why? Because you have put them inside a box. that's very small. So, let it loose. and yes. Then it goes on. We're on a journey of making a star. they say “star” based on. what he will become. but what is supposed to happen. is that we should. walk in a straight line.
not walk in a circle. What does a straight line mean? It means I have finished with Egypt. I became the Egyptian star. I get the rank of “Egyptian star” pinned on me. I move to the next step. I want to become an Arab star. Now I want. the Emirates now. to see me as a star. Saudi Arabia as well. and for Yemen to see me as a star. so that I can hang. another rank called “Arab star”. and I discovered that after that. We start going around in a circle. I go back to Egypt again. and I want to prove that I am a star.
but you already proved you're Egypt’s star. No, you must prove it again. So what do I do? Make a film and achieve the highest revenue. I already did it! Do it a third and fourth time. When you are done, you go. to the Emirates again. But we have just come from there? and I circle around. 30 or 40 years pass. and I. between Egypt, Emirates, Kuwait. Qatar, Saudi Arabia. then Egypt. and the North Coast in summer. then Emirates, Saudi Arabia. and so on. Egypt, the North Coast in summer, then Saudi Arabia. and 40 years pass.
while I forget that there's. a planet called Earth. as if I'm living. in a coffee cup and leaving. the place where I'm sitting. but I don't want. this circle. I want to walk in a straight line. after the Middle East. you're an Egyptian Arab. You have finished with Egypt. and entered the Arab middle school. You're at a stage called. high school. Which is your continent, Africa. Do the people in Nigeria. the street behind us,
know who you are? No? Then hurry up. submit your papers to high school. and go in and tell them. I finished middle school and this is. my grade in middle school. and, by God, look at. the Emirates. thank God. how they appreciated me. and here too. they accept your papers, then you enter high school. and you change. your uniform from. gray and white. to navy and light blue. So that they accept me into high school. and I would have finished with Africa.
after that I enter university. which is the world then. They accept your papers. because you're coming from high school. But I am coming from. from only the Middle East. with an intermediate qualification. middle school. it's impossible for my papers at the university to get accepted. Impossible. So I live sitting at the door of middle school. I finished middle school three years ago. but you are outside. this area or circle. I'm sorry, I mean.
You're nothing. Recognition is only here. ”But I give concerts in London”. There's not a single English person. standing listening to you. Not for any reason. not because you're bad. It's because we. sing in Arabic. That's wrong too. This is a false belief. Bad Bunny doesn't have any English tracks. The Koreans. don't have an English track. They do a concert in London, there is not a single. English person who understands Korean. and they listen to them and watch them. It's just because he took the steps. He finished. primary school,
then entered middle school. finished high school. entered university naturally. so the world became. you're no longer. weird to the world. “How did he get here?”. He got here in order. He finished this. and entered that. For example I sang at the opening of the. Africa Cup of Nations in Cote d’Ivoire. so Mahmoud said to me, ”I don't see the Middle East”. talking about this event. You're singing in Cote d’Ivoire. There is not. one Arab among the 100,000 in the stadium.
Even the opening. was between Cote d’Ivoire and almost. Burkina or a country. that Isn't an Arab country. He said, “But”. I told him, ”Mahmoud, you,”. ”You're acting exactly like you're in a monthly exam”. ”in high school”. ”and you're focused on the middle school teacher”. ”not grading the paper”. ”My dear”. ”we are here”. He said, ”But still”. I see that anyone who takes a step abroad. ”they write about him”. I told him, ”Because he is doing it for here”.
He's taking a step abroad. so they write about it here. Not for the sake of abroad. He knows that the paper. hasn't even been graded abroad. Do you know that. if we were to go behind his back. and ask for his name on the school lists. We wouldn't find it. He's doing this. to come back here. So that his price might increase. a bit here. So, you define your goal. are you doing this in Africa. for Africa? or are you doing this in Africa. or in Europe. so you can come to Egypt. and tell them, I did this in Europe.
The day before yesterday. No, I'm doing this for Africa. so my paper gets graded. I get the full mark. and enter the next stage. and as I sit in front of you now. I consider myself. in the second term of. the second year of high school. Yes, steps started happening. a music video with Future. one of the most important rappers in the world. and produced by. Universal Music America. and I didn't work for it. They are paying me. They sent me a private jet to Miami.
so I can shoot. all of that. and Coachella. I didn't work to get it. They sent me. we want you to sing. at Coachella. I felt those were just signs. from God that you're on the right path. because you didn't settle. for middle school. and you took the step. that has no reference. When I was singing. at the opening of the Africa Cup. of Nations in Cote d’Ivoire. I cannot find a reference. in my mind.
I keep searching. for example, that. I would like to compete. inside my head. I discourage myself so I can do more. I tell myself, don't be too happy. Remember so and so. when he sang in Senegal, for example. I cannot find any reference. Remember the great woman. when she sang in Ghana. No one went to Ghana. and no one. sang in Senegal. Did you forget when she. did a song, for example. a concert in Ethiopia and people were. No one went there. Our limit is Sudan.
because we're focused only on the Arab region. Well, does. your pursuit. beyond. the Middle East. Do the Middle East and Egypt. consider it as not being satisfied. that we are not enough for you as an audience. Not fulfilling your desires. on the contrary. For a moment, maybe. the moment you get busy. with the new phase, they might feel that you have started to neglect them.
but the truth is, and at the end, or not at the end, at the end. of the phase you are in, they will be proud, and they will be happy, and they will thank you for thinking of that, because in the end, you're elevating. the Arabic song, you are elevating the Arabic word, you're elevating. your culture and so on, Even if. We do some, I will call them smart moves. that I. for example wear. clothes to the taste. or that please.
the Coachella audience. The Egyptian audience gets upset, and the Arab audience gets upset. that's a risk. but my. target was achieved, the audience of Coachella. were amazed, watch the videos, They were interacting, and astonished, The Americans. were raising. their phones, and the people. from Mexico. and the Brazilians were filming. They liked what was happening.
Here, they might not have understood. the matter properly, or they see that this. is something strange to us, that's normal. I don't get upset about it. because anything that has no reference. must be met. like that, you know? Until it starts to. be absorbed and understood, yes, and Goldenvoice, who produce Coachella, made me sign afterwards, ”Wireless” which is one of. the biggest festivals. of music in Europe, held in London. every year. So, we achieved the target.
maybe God, through the attack. Because. I mean, I made a divine peace. with that I. this attack made. the videos. of mine at Coachella. get extremely huge views, So now Coachella's. account on TikTok, you will find two days before, Billie Eilish, the video has for example, four million views. while my video has 10,000,000, So, Goldenvoice. people abroad respect. numbers a lot,
Who is this, and how is this guy. getting more views than these people? but of course it's because. of the calamity that happened, So, glory be to God, Things you think are. upsetting, when you sit and search. and look for their positives, you start to realize it can be a great blessing. and you don't even realize it. Who is Mohamed. The professor.
Samir Markabi? Samir Al Markabi. Al Markabi. Al Markabi, Okay, this person. This is my late teacher. he was the Arabic language teacher. at El Saidiya School. and he is the reason. I joined the school theatre, because he, you know, saw the acting talent. inside me, I used to. come up with scenes. and act them out for my classmates. I would imitate the teachers.
of course changing the dialogue, of course, an. improvised dialogue. from my own imagination so that. my friends would laugh. Once he walked in while I was imitating him. He came behind me. and the students, of course. I punished them later on, because no one even gave me any sign. so he let me keep. talking, I was saying, ”Do you know what Samir Al Marakbi means?”. so he realized I was talking about him. and that's it.
you know, I was making fun. He suddenly grabbed me. by the collar of my shirt, and I thought he was going to take me. to the principal to expel me or something. or punish me. He took me to the school theatre. and may God bless her, Professor Zizi Hafez, She was the head. of the theatre in South Giza, the educational directorate. he told her, ”He is causing trouble in class”.
He imitates me and all my colleagues, He keeps making fun of us. and we want him to join your theatre group, She asked him, ”What grade is he in?”. He told her, ”First”. She told him, ”It's forbidden”. because the El Saidiya school. for example, when I was there, the number of students. in the school was 7800. a very large number. So they only allowed into the theatre. second and third secondary grades, so they could.
reduce the number, because many also joined the theatre. to skip classes, you know, escape from school, like, I'm in the theatre, They get privileges. and they get coursework grades, and things like that, So, they made an exception for me, and I joined the theatre, and I acted, and I got best talent at the level of the republic, in the first year. and here, it was a sign. and proof that.
this is my field. It was something. also that. For example, for six or seven years. Giza. had not produced a best talent winner. in theatre, The competition was always between. Cairo and Alexandria. so it was the first time. that someone from Giza won, and I started to sense. the stardom tastes. maybe when I was. especially in the second year of secondary. because.
the teachers. I became known in the school. as the one who got best talent. at the level of the republic. I used to get some exceptions. like I would enter class. wearing sunglasses. and they would let me. drink tea in class. It was, and may God. have mercy on him, Professor Sobh. was the school principal, he loved art very much. and loved theatre very much, He was a reader of novels. He was the one who suggested to us.
which play we should do. in second secondary. In second year of secondary, of course. I had won Best Talent, so I was the star of the team. He was the one who suggested a novel. it was called. “The Man Who Ate a Goose,“. it was. what we call in theatre a political cabaret, It is. a black comedy play. it has tragedy but you die of laughter. It's about an employee. who dreamt that. he was eating a goose,
So they told him, what does it mean that you dreamt of that. This means you're saying. that we cannot eat goose, so they took him to State Security, and he was subjected. to a very big interrogation, at the end of the play. he says. ”I will not dream again”. ”I am sorry”. ”I swear I won't sleep, Mr. Judge”. ”I swear I won't dream”. I saw a video recently. maybe a week ago, on YouTube, I don't know. where they got it from, of that scene,
the scene where I am. behind. the bars, telling the judge that. I won't dream again. He told me, ”If we acquit you”. ”What will you do?”. So I told him, ”I will never sleep so that I don't dream”. So, it was a beautiful. and very light-hearted novel. and I still remember a scene. where he is telling his colleagues. the dream. He told them, I dreamt I was holding. a goose, and the fat was dripping from it, and I kept dunking my bread into it, pulling away and dunking in it again.
I remember. the scene well. and I woke up as if. I don't know what's happening. That's it, so. maybe this was. of course the credit. goes to God, then to Professor Samir Al Marakbi. whose name you mentioned. I read also, Mohamed. that you printed it, because I think, it was the first time. they put you in the newspaper. the day you won. Yes. So you printed. this photo. The newspaper. Yes. No, I kept it in my bag.
Yes. when I met any director, I would tell him, I was afraid. he would think I was. someone passing by. and walked in by chance, I wanted to tell him that I'm an actor. I would open the newspaper. and tell him, this. here in Al Gomhuria newspaper. they wrote about me, “A discovery”. the phrase was, “A discovery”. ”of a brilliant comedic genius”. ”namely the student”. ”Mohamed Ramadan”. from El Saidiya Military Secondary School, They had put a full length photo of me, and they were mistaken, They wrote under it “Mahmoud Ramadan,”. but inside, in the body of the piece,
in the article itself, they wrote my name correctly. But Mahmoud is my brother. even if they mixed up the name. Is it true? I think there was a story. that you went to the downtown. - You would go - That happened. Yes, yes. and look for directors, and search. Yes, I used to. I would finish school. and go to the downtown, and start looking for. producers, where their offices are, and directors, It was a very long journey.
I would, for example, enter a building, “Is there a director or producer's office here?”. He'd say, ”No”. I go to the next building. The whole idea of downtown. the school's director told me about. I asked him, ”Where can I find the real directors?”. He told me, “So I am not a real director?”. I told him, “Of course you're a director”. ”with all due respect”. ”but I mean the ones who do some”. ”TV series and movies”. He said, “In downtown,”. He left me and walked away. I still don't know. whether this “downtown” is from Tahrir or Ramses. or Abdin, You know? He threw a very broad word,
and left, basically. So I started to kind of make. a full search, I would memorize. the geography of the street. this building had such-and-such bank. I would get tired and leave. and return to the same building. then start. the journey. Tomorrow I have this street, and the day after. the first one to the right. I would write down the name. and some streets. I would mix up. enter it again. so I would remember. I would remember the doorman I had met. I would remember.
the people I had seen. So I would know that. was going around the same place again. Did that help? It did. This whole journey. led me to things. by the way. I saw. For example, during that period I got to know. El-Sayed Radi. this way. I met. I worked with Mr. Saeed Saleh. Through this same way. I went into a street. at night and found.
lights and a picture of Mr. Saeed Saleh. people buying tickets. and the play was being performed. so logically I could never. work on a play that was already running. but. I said, ”Why not meet the director?”. to meet Mr. Saeed. maybe they would keep me in mind. for a play afterwards. or something like that. I didn’t know that. I would be working that same day. I worked that same day. I presented the play with Mr. Saeed. and of course there were also things. I came out of it having learned lessons.
that still help me to this day. like, for example. The security guy at the theater. refused to let me in. So I told him, “I’m an actor, I’m not here to watch”. I’m here. to meet the director. and here is my picture in the newspaper. He said, “Whoever you are”. ”Buy a ticket”. ”Watch and leave”. ”You can’t meet the director”. ”or anyone”. So I crossed. the street and stood behind.
phone booth. and I started remembering the movie. Mission Impossible. about how I could. get in before. while this guy was fiddling. You know what I mean? I tied my shoes really tight. and indeed. while he was talking to someone. I slipped in like lightning. and then I had. step two of how I would. appear inside the theater. as if I were natural. so that if someone. asked someone passing by.
they would say, “'How did you get in here? Get out”. I put my hands in my pockets and walked normally. and I wasn’t greeting anyone. I found an office. with “Theater Manager” written on it. I opened it. and I found. a group of. men sitting there. I said to them, “Peace be upon you”. then I closed the door and left. I didn’t find Saeed Saleh. among those sitting there. “Who are you, sir?”. so I closed the door and carried on. until I reached. the dressing rooms. I found the late. Mr. Saeed sitting. and smoking a cigarette.
by himself. I said to him, “How are you, sir?”. He said, “Who are you?”. I told him, “I am an actor”. and the thing is, I mean. Every time I go to a director. he tells me, “Leave your picture”. and sir, my eyes are not. green and my hair is not blond. to leave my picture. so I really want you, to see me. He said, “Who are you?”. “Who are you?”. “How did you get in here?”. I told him, “Sir, I am an actor”. “My name is Mohamed Ramadan”. and I. It is possible that. the security guy. will come and throw me out.
I snuck in behind him. but I really just want you, sir, to see me. to act in front of you, sir. For a moment, I thought. ”What is this nonsense?”. Is he going to tell me, “Act”? I acted without him telling me to. I started acting straight away. I said, “I am going to be now, sir, a character. and in my head the security guy. as if I can see him. coming from the door. and I have to finish acting quickly. before he arrives. so that he will have felt something. felt that I have something in me. I told him, “There is this a guy”. ”I met”. I am going to perform. a real character I met in the street.
“A guy I met at Masr Station”. He was carrying a bag. I was describing the man to him. The man told me, ”Where is Al Fath Mosque?”. I told him, “Pardon?”. he said, “Where is Al Fath Mosque? I said, ”What are you saying?”. So he threw the bag and said. “Al Fath Mosque, Allahu Akbar”. ”In which direction?”. and, sir, there are other characters. saw in Midan Giza, I don't know where. of course all that time he is sitting holding. the cigarette. not laughing. not laughing. Just. sitting with the cigarette.
While I was performing, of course my voice was loud. so the actors started coming out of the rooms. and reacting. One is laughing and one. “What is this? Wow!”. and they are saying nice things. then I finished. May God have mercy and be gracious to him. He stood up. and said, “I swear, this boy will act with me on stage today”. “Hey, Alwi”. He called the assistant director.
and told him, “He is going to go. put him in the street scene”. There was a scene. where Mr. Saeed is sitting at the bus station. He told him that I would participate in that scene. I would meet him. we talk and then he starts. to draw things out of me. He asks me something and I answer. and I asked him, “Today, sir?”. He said, ”Yes”. I kissed his head, of course. and told him, ”I will never forget”. ”your kindness, but I”. ”But I don't know what's”. ”the topic of the play”. He said, ”It doesn't matter”.
It's just one scene. Just go as you are. I told him, “How about this?”. ”I'll play the character of a guy coming from Upper Egypt”. Who wants to act. and I actually want to act. so everything will be in my head, I will know what to do. and indeed. I did that. and I took. just a few simple props from the crew. I mean, I gave my shoes. to a nice man. who worked. in cleaning. the bathrooms. I took his slippers.
I took. the suit jacket. of the security guy who did not let me in. I did that on purpose, I said, “Mr. Saeed”. ”Ther's a suit a man is wearing outside”. I intended to bring the guy. so he would be taking off his jacket. Do you understand me? Hating you. Yes. We became mates. and I went up. and he went and said. in front of the people that. “This is your chance”. ”You want a chance?”. I said, “Yes.”. He said, “This is your chance”. ”If the people like you”. ”in the hall”. ”You will continue with us”. ”If people don't like you”.
”then don't come again”. So I felt a challenge. like no other. I went and performed ablution. and I prayed two rak'ahs, the prayer for fulfilling a need. and it became a habit. Thank God, since that day. It was the first time I prayed it. I had heard that. there are two rak'ahs called the prayer of need. I said, “Oh Lord”. ”if the people enjoy it”. ”I will keep praying”. ”These two rak'ahs every day before the play”. and indeed, from. that day on.
and throughout my whole life. I did theater. I may have only stopped doing theater. only in 2019. Those two rak'ahs always stayed with me. Because, the sound. of people laughing and. maybe in ten minutes they applauded. ten times. and I continued in the play. and every day my part was getting bigger. until just before we closed the play. my role was almost. the biggest role after Mr. Saeed Saleh.
It kept getting bigger and bigger. Later, an actor had a problem. so I started doing my role and his. and the role of the. other actor who was in the second act. So, that was my. real beginning, from here. Hanan Turk. chose me. for the series “Awlad El Shawarea” (Street Kids). then Samir Seif, for the series. “El Cinderella”. then Mr. Wahid Hamed. chose me in “Ehki Ya Shahrazad”. I have a question.
Why, or where does. all of this hunger inside you. come from? You have determination. I mean, from a young age. you've been thinking? From. look, what God Almighty. said in the Quran. “Call upon Me in fear and aspiration”. For me, this aspiration. is a trait. that on the contrary, I nurture inside myself. The idea that. as long as I'm not. seeking anything from people. not seeking anything.
from human beings. I seek success. I am not satisfied with one success. Maybe. for an actor to reach being the highest paid. in drama. and say, “This is great for me”. I don't. I may have taken a very tough risk after that. that I decided to sing. How can you? That position. anyone who gets it. could never do anything else at all. So, no.
and then, for example, in cinema you're a man who makes films. for the masses. and commercial films. What would make you go and do. a film like “El Kanz”? You're already succeeding in “Abdu Mouta”. and in “Qalb El Asad”. and no one affects the audience. in the street as much as you do. No one that people imitate. and imitate his haircut. We haven't seen that a lot, mind you. In drama, to have snacks with your name. and a TV channel called “Habisha”. and a channel called “El Ostoura”. Any person.
would try to cling to. that status. and sleep next to it. and say. “Wow, every year passes and I am. maintaining that”. So the word. that's more important than success. is maintaining it. Maintaining is a very strange word. Maintaining means stagnation. it means something. that has gone into a state. of freeze, I mean. It is not a good thing. and so I like continuity. in success. Not “Maintaining success”. meaning you reached here and stayed here.
What is so great. about that? As if I'm running on a treadmill. I want every time I run. every year. to look to my right and left and find. that people are changing. faces are changing. the atmosphere is changing. every year I am. reaching a new place. and to be. active. all the time. not only. not satisfied. sitting and waiting there. Thus, after our huge success. thank God, in cinema and drama.
I decided to. I took the decision to sing. But as our master Ali said. may God be pleased with him. ”Awareness comes before striving”. Meaning, before I. take the step, I think. You're entering new territory. according to people. People haven't. ever seen you. as a singer. So what are you going to offer? in a tough market. And are you. okay with being, say, in drama and cinema. the most popular actor. and the most influential.
and the most. mainstream. and you enter the drama field. where you are number twelve? Or are you going to offer. So I decided to offer. something that is specific for me. For example, if a market. sells one thing. I will sell something else. What's it then? So I studied very hard. What kind of music I would present? How would people receive it? What kind of lyrics would I sing? So I kept studying. I found that all the singers.
always sing to the other person. Like, either. I love you, I hate you. I miss you. or this or that. I said, okay then I will sell something else. I will sing to the self. to the inner self. Whoever wants to hear a song for themselves. listens to Mohamed Ramadan. Whoever wants to hear a song. for his work. for his success. for his strength, listens to Mohamed Ramadan. And that became the concept, I made the song ”Number One”. and thank God, it succeeded.
It was the first song. Of course it was a tough risk. mind you, it was like I put. the actor on a gambling table. If Number One had failed. the actor would also have taken. heavy damage. Really huge damage. So it's a risk. and only those who take risks. taste the thrill. I made Number One. Of course, it was also. something with no reference. What is Number One? The singer always. always sings that he's.
that he is defeated. even when he speaks positively about himself. you feel he is downplaying himself in the song. so that he can say that I. am such and such. So this was. someone saying. I am in the arena, standing alone. you and your friends are watching me. my crowd is. all hyped, etc. So of course it was attacked. but it succeeded. and it was everywhere. and people knew it by heart. and people were doing the dance. kids. old and young.
women and men. And of course there were some criticisms. ”How can he say that?”. Guys, I did not say. I did not put on a suit. and come out in a press declaration. and tell them, guys. This is just a song. Why did you take the matter so seriously? This is entertainment. this is a very entertaining project. There is a director and. an art director, editor. a producer. a music producer. I mean, this is. an artistic project.
Like it or not, this is called an artistic project. It moved people. hyped people up and made them happy. We succeeded. We achieved our target. which was. to entertain people. and make them happy. After that I made. the second song. and after that Mafia. El Malek, then Mafia. Of course, I used to hear. a lot of discouraging comments. that Number One only succeeded out of curiosity. I said, ”What does curiosity mean?”. They would say, because you are an actor.
So people want to see. what will happen. if this actor sings. But if you do something else. you will fail hard. I would say, ”Seriously?”. then I made Mafia. and it became even more successful. ”The second song triggers more curiosity”. I asked why. because it's the second. but the third one will fail miserably. Then comes Ensay. ”This was the last one”. ”It succeeded because it featured Saad Lmjarred”. ”but you on your own”. So I went and made Bum Bum.
My dear. And thank God I. We almost started. You started in 2018 with your first episode. and my first song was also in 2018. So we are, like. in these seven years. There have been moves. that are very, very big. that have happened. in seven years. ”don't praise yourselves”. but no singer has done that in seven years. Any singer I. and you have known. even if he has actually been. singing for seven years,
and we haven't known him yet. or even ten years. You got to know him. once. heard his first song. Of course, acting helped me a lot in that. that when your first song. is Number One. Do you get me? You've started from a very advanced point. And that's it, it became. a genre that has no reference. and that's strange. People until now might still not understand. whether this genre lasts or not. or does it die out. Actually they are right. because there really is no proper reference.
True. But what I promise people about, we are shooting this program in 2025. That, by God. with trust in God. with trust in God. what I. will achieve and am achieving in singing. has never happened in the history of singing. in the Arab world. and has never been achieved by. a man or a woman. I am saying this in 2025. and our steps shape who we are. the steps to come. and the years to come. will prove my words.
but it will prove to you. that. that. nothing is impossible. that's first. also. secondly, that any person. who stops at a certain stage. it was not injustice from God. it was injustice from him towards himself. He is the one who put a ceiling on his ambition. Thirdly, maybe God. has made me a sign. for the coming generations. in my artistic field. that you.
trust in God. “Success is Trust in God” is not just a shameful. It's not a shameful phrase. It's a very beautiful phrase. Believe in it. and you have this reference. So, maybe God has made me a reference. for every artist. young and up-and-coming. in. in Egypt. in the UAE. in Saudi Arabia, anywhere. Nothing is impossible. Believe in your dream. and think carefully. before you take any step. Awareness comes before striving.
and set. goals. and have. trust in God that. there is no human being. who can stop you from achieving. those goals. except for one enemy. he is the only one who can. block you from reaching them. and that's yourself. You yourself. are the only one who can. hold yourself back. and stop yourself. and discourage yourself. not anyone else. No human being has control. over the earth.
and a statement that mattered a lot to me. to tell you in 2025. so that we can come back to it. when we get. very old. and have achieved great things. and we still remember that you and I started. in the same year. The first song. Number One in June. The first episode? with Amouri. In August. and the first episode was a success. because it was something unusual. It was the first time there was.
an interview in this style. I had a football player. but I did not talk to him about football. for an hour and a half. We talked about him as a person. so it was something very strange in 2018. What kind of interview is this? Not the best goal. or the best match and injury. No, who are you? What was your childhood like? How do you think? Do you get depressed? I mean, it was strange. Like you said, there was no reference. So it was strange. but I also want to tell you a few things. there is something you mentioned. that's very important for anyone watching.
in terms of mindset. you mentioned many beautiful points. among the things you mentioned. in English. they call it. paper walls. which means transparent walls. that we create for ourselves. There is no actual wall. It is only you. who drew and built the wall. and you set limits for yourself. but it's not bricks, concrete or cement. For example, you say to someone who has opened. a supermarket. You tell him, honestly, your supermarket. is successful in the neighborhood. He says, yes.
So why don't you also open, for example. in Kuwait? Man, Kuwait is so far away. He might say okay for Kuwait. You say, why don't you open. in France? They love the products you have. He says, what would get me to France? I am comfortable here. If you don't believe. and you are not convinced. then who will believe? That's it, yes. That's the first point you mentioned. Of course. The second point that I felt. is very important. which I always like. to compare between a “why“ mindset.
and a “why not“ mindset. Wow, of course. So, I tell you. Mohamed, Why don't you succeed in. Korea with K-pop music. Why don't you succeed there? You say, Anas, why would I? What would take me there? How would they even know me? I even look different. There are many reasons and excuses. some of them logical. Logical, but. you are the one who created them. and made them up. These beliefs are your own invention. You're the one who put them. These roadblocks don't actually exist.
You created them. and put them there. so you ended up sleeping. Oh lord! There are so many of them. How am I going to get past them? I can tell you, Mohamed. Why don't you succeed in Korea? and you say, why not? But. The “why not“ mindset. created Mohamed Ramadan. My dear. Honestly, I'm not flattering you. You too. You as well. It's important, and I want this mindset. to be like a virus that spreads. among all our Arab talents. and now I feel that this is one of the periods. in my lifetime.
when I see the Arab youth. like Mohamed Salah. like Marmoush. Omar Marmoush. Mohamed. in fencing and in squash. you have squash players. Many, yes. You see them. even in songs. they sing in Arabic now. They are not trying. to translate everything into English. for the first time. in my life. I see the rising generation. saying a little “why not“, meaning that we are proud. The music video is Arabic. The carpet is Arabic.
in the video. and the owners. Who is the owner of Man City? Who is the owner of PSG? Who is the owner of Paris Saint-Germain? An Arab. Who is the owner of Man City? An Arab. The biggest and most important. clubs in the world. that has won the UEFA Champions League. and has. So. It's not luck. - Not just one season - Of course. but then I. Not a one-song success. Of course. This is where you realize that the talent is not.
temporary or fake. Of course. Look, the idea is. I see it like contagion. A man can be infected by a woman. and a child can. infect. an older man. I mean, it is. contagion in success. it's not necessary for us to be in the same field. in order to infect one another. I'm one of the people who. who. Inspired me. to a very great extent. and gave me. a feeling that nothing is impossible. is Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid.
in his book, for example. and he drew my attention. to many things, among them. it was the first time I read. that. this philosophy, the idea that. people don't know. the second person to go to the moon. Okay. So, I will be the first one. but that first one. always pays a price. that's always very hard. because he is the first. The first person takes everything in the face. The one who comes next.
Like the first one who went to the moon. literally, he is the one. people made fun of him. saying he's an idiot. How will he go up? How will you come down, clever guy. while the earth is spinning? You point here and by the time you get there. You reach India. with lots of mockery. For sure, with unusual mockery. but when he achieved it. the ones who came after him. people had everything ready for him. Why? Because. someone already did it. So, glory be to God. the first one. gets a lot more attacks, yes.
but. his credit keeps going. forever. You did something. that people copied. after you. you're the first one who got attacked. but it worked, and people started imitating it. Every one of those who imitate. once people see him. they remember you, so you get credit and marketing. as soon as they see. this person. they go, why did I think of Mohamed? or why did I think of. Anas the moment I saw this person? Why is it that the moment this happened. I remembered Anas?
Once this person said. when he did this with his finger. I remembered so and so. but you were attacked for doing that. but now you have credit. I find people, for example. maybe an American singer. posing in a photo doing this. I find people in his comments. saying “Is this Mohamed Ramadan or what?”. So that's it. I was attacked, but. it stuck, and now there is. a lasting credit. that goes back to you. I mean. In terms of marketing, in terms of.
people actually remembering. That's it. Do you love fame? I mean, fame. fame is one of. I mean, one of. the characteristics of my work. one of the features of our success. one of the signs of our success. is fame. but it's not the main thing. It's not the whole point. You know? I did not decide or say. I want to be famous, there were a million other ways. for someone to. become even more famous.
completely away from art. If I wanted to put a strategy for fame. you and I can immediately become. the most famous people on Earth. but it would be something. completely unrelated to art. So, no. fame. is one of the qualities or. one of the indicators. of success in your field. You become famous. as a man. who is professional in this profession. that's something hard to achieve. but of course its taste is much sweeter.
and why. Do many people hate you? By God, I don't. I don't see. anyone who hates me at all. Honestly. Thank God, the audience. is actually the opposite. A certain relationship connects me to the audience. that's perhaps rare. It doesn't usually happen between an artist. and his audience very often. There might be some.
people who, for example, without you realizing it, your steps. hurt them. Sometimes. You. take steps in your field. that make your colleagues. in the same field. seem smaller. without you realizing it. I don't mean to. do this. so that you. feel that I am. Wow, is he exposing me? I used to tell people that I'm. the most famous one in this thing. I used to say. so people start asking. why did they not choose you here?
Why did they not bring you? So, he thinks that you did. this so that people would say. and think, Why didn't they bring so and so. Is he fooling us? He is only known in our little circle. Oh my God. So, I don't do. It doesn't cross my mind at all. I just take steps. You know, each step. is what points you to the next step. It's not since day one. I can see the way. No, I reach that stage. all my focus is on what's next. What the next step is.
You get me? It's not like. After, for example. I felt that I was a star in Egypt. and I have an audience. so I thought of Africa. That did not happen. My only ambition. was to have the same level of fame. and the same level of love. the same level of appreciation. but in our Arab countries. Is it possible that in the Emirates? but the Emirates is harder. The Emirates get stars. from all over the world.
so they don't get impressed easily. So, how. do you manage to win. over the Emirati audience? How do I win the Saudi audience? Whose young generations. are all educated abroad. and they attend concerts for Drake. and Travis Scott. They watch American movies. before they even come out. in the Arab world. How am I going to attract these people? Then you really have to think about. a strategy. What should you export? So that.
this audience starts to accept you. and to feel that you really are. a star. and not look down on you. compared to the stars. of the West. and not see. the Western stars. Oh, Mohamed. No, I want it to be at the same level. What are you going to work on? What are you going to present? So that was where all my focus was. So, after Egypt. the step immediately ahead of me was. the Middle East.
then. I felt that. in the Emirates, thank God, Namous was closed because of me. for 5 days. because of the crowding. The place is attended by. the biggest stars in the world. you know that. So there were signs. that no, you are. thank God, it happened. You are. in Saudi Arabia. they chose me. to do the opening of. Riyadh Season. To do. the opening of Jeddah Season. All of these are signs that they are choosing you.
not as just one among others. No. So I felt appreciated by our. Arab countries in a big way. in Morocco. a very great appreciation. thank God as well. from His Majesty the King and from. and from. the government. and the people, of course. So, my. eyes started to go to the next step. which was Africa. I was surprised, after the Middle East. What's that? Every time you reach. the roof of.
the tower. You see the next tower. I want this. I have to enter it through the door. I am not going to jump in. I'm not a thief. I'm not stealing. It's not a trick. and not just being a smart aleck. not someone who forms a gang and says. ”Look, we are going to do”. No, that's not success at all. that's called. a scam. but it gets exposed. I saw another tower. Great. How do I enter through its door?
and start going up the first floor. and the second. and the third. until I reach the roof. as soon as I reach the top. I look and find there is a third tower. and that's how life is. You know? I feel that this is. this is life. I don't mean. When are we going to rest then? No, you chose something you love. your comfort is actually in your work. My comfort is that I am working. on something I love. That's it for me. That's my break. that I'm not doing something. I am forced to do, or something.
I have to do. I love it. So I enjoy it. I feel that this is our mission in this world. that we keep working. Me in my field. and the doctor in their field. and the engineer in their field. and the police in their field. and the media person in their field. We are supposed to grow and work. and that's it. I feel this is. this is life, I mean.
Some people say, Mohamed, that Mohamed cannot handle. stillness and calm; he has to. stir things up. and create controversy. By God, never. Intentionally. you have a plan to stir controversy. Not at all; on the contrary. Completely the opposite. I mean, if the whole idea is. about making a fuss. I won't be able to work. If that's how I think. The idea is just.
On the contrary, when I. make moves abroad. any steps I take outside. the Middle East. when they don't even talk about them here. I am very, very happy. I feel like, yes, let me finish. these things. then they will be surprised. and say, how did he do that? Do you get me? It's like I am making a surprise. You know? On the contrary, like Coachella. I would have been very happy. if Coachella had gone by. and no one had noticed. and we had finished it. and signed with. the bigger festival.
And I got really amazing things. reactions from. the people running the festival. that were very nice. They liked the performance. They liked the music. They started to. We managed to attract them. so they started listening to. our songs. Among them are people. whose favorite song became. Ya Habibi. or Mafia. Someone among them always. texts me even on WhatsApp, “Mafia”. So I am happy that we.
I mean, This is what we dream of. that we deliver. our culture and deliver. our attitude and deliver. our way of thinking and deliver our words. and our language and our dialect. to the whole world. What's the problem? I made a song with Future. I made a song with Maitre Gims. It's not about the fact that you did a song with. a big French star like Maitre Gims. There are many Arabs. who do songs. as in international collaborations.
but the. international star who. they did the song with. Does not sing that song in his concerts. My songs are being sung. by Maitre Gims. Ya Habibi is a staple song. in every concert of his. everywhere, in Stade de France. whether in Germany. or in a stadium in Belgium. you hear Ya Habibi. and with Mohamed Ramadan’s part in it. with Mohamed Ramadan’s part. So, this is. I see that this is.
signs that we are doing well. and heading in the right direction. Do you feel. you could. at all. What? I laughed at. “Why do they hate you?”. I sometimes ask. the questions that are. - on some people’s minds - I get this question often. Look, sometimes I feel. what is not understood is hated. When you are.
something strange. a strange creature. that we're not used to seeing. this creature in the jungle. We don't like it. It is strange. By nature, a person. does not like something mysterious. - or something unknown - That's true. He likes to put it in a box and label. This is a doctor. What if the doctor starts to play violin? No, that's not okay. No, actually it is normal. He has hands and can do whatever he wants. No, no, he's a doctor. I don't like. that he is in two boxes. Only one box. Great Analysis. So if I put. I am used to Mohamed Ramadan as an actor. ”What does he have to do with singing?”.
But I have a voice. you know, I can sing. I love music. No, no, you are an actor. We are used to you as an actor. So I cannot accept you going. into another box or giving you another label. Great analysis. Look. that's a correct diagnosis. You gave me an answer about something. Bravo, honestly. Sometimes, it's not a matter of hate. but a matter of not understanding. What I don't understand about Mohamed Ramadan. means I don't like him. I don't like him I don't understand him. Right. I have to understand him.
So part of ABtalks. is that you see. and remember what I'm saying. that in the comments there will be. “I used to like Mohamed. now I like him more”. “I did not use to like Mohamed. now I understood him”. Maybe the opposite. Possible. But I am used to it. Because the show. is very humane. We really give a person the chance. to speak freely, so that. people say. “Ah, okay, I didn't know that he. has complexes. has ambition. has a childhood.
has a mother; he has losses. Here comes the humanity. I always used to say. ABtalks takes the star. and turns him back into a human being. Because in the end he is a human being. Exactly. He goes to the bathroom too. Gets sick like you do. He loves just like you love. He has a talent. but you also have one. Maybe you make the best pizza in the world. and we don't know. Maybe that's your talent. What's the problem? Right. You know. So I wanted to ask you. the other day I saw a video. of you at the funeral.
and I saw you numb. and firm and strict, maybe that's what you needed to be at that funeral. because there was a lot of talk. So I was saying. Has Mohamed. even been able. to grieve for his father. with everything that is happening in your life now? Have you even been able to grieve? For sure. For sure, of course. I mean. For a moment. life stopped. for me. That moment. I really forgot. who I am.
what I do, what I have. and what my problems are. and. for a moment; but as I am telling you, the calmness and patience. and the consolation. that were inside me. are maybe what helped me get through it. and maybe that's my father’s prayer. My father also. hates crying. and hates sadness. He doesn't believe in. wearing black after someone dies. He was a person who really. I will never forget, I mean.
he was not. There are stories I don't want to tell. He was someone who never liked sadness. For example, there could be a death. in the family. in his family. and my mother would say. the TV is forbidden in the house. He would say to her. the kids will get depressed. turn on the TV. He would not watch. but he would turn the TV on. I'd watch the game with my brother. He turned it on and said, watch. It's okay. This happened despite the death.
It is not important. He told her, we are all leaving. “Whoever loves to meet God, God loves to meet him”. That was always his phrase. The sentence I heard from him the most. ”Whoever loves to meet God, God loves to meet him”. Meaning, don't be afraid of death. Love meeting your Lord. so that your Lord loves meeting you. May God have mercy on him. Amen. The idea of people. and what they will write. I believe in something. Never in my life. have I been upset with my audience.
even at the height of. any period. Of course there would be attacks. and a push to steer the audience. towards the idea that Mohamed Ramadan is a person. who is, for example, arrogant. is someone aggressive. and so on. Look what he did in Al Rawda. scenarios of hurt and so on. I always see the audience as being right. When the audience writes about the actor. or about. the singer or the artist in general. and says something bad,
be sure that the problem lies with the artist. The fault is with the artist. There were. social classes in Egypt. by virtue of. my beginnings, I started by addressing one class. And Egypt. Egypt. you know, has so many classes. We are not, maybe, like countries that have only two classes. Others have three. But Egypt. has many classes. So when I addressed one class, there is another class. or many classes.
that did not accept Mohamed Ramadan. because he is a person. who represents this class. But I. represent this class. And I am representing. this role. But when. I play another role. in another class, I will then be representing. the other class, Okay, when I started. to sense that there were classes rejecting me, and saying, “Where is the role of. the syndicate?”. That was in 2012. “Where is so and so’s role?”.
I would sit and read comments. and say to them, like, “I am coming to you, you are right”. Because I'm addressing those. you have the right to be upset. but. what no one was talking about. was why or how you. after, for example, the series. like Al Ostoura. and this success. that was strange. and the very immense success. and the coffee shops. and the T-shirts, people wearing Rifai. People held a funeral in the street.
for Rifaai Dessouky, for real. and this impact. and the series after it, it would be natural, or what is commonly known, that you would then do the same thing again. Otherwise you would be stupid. You have a series. that made that success, so you go and make. Al Ostoura 2 and 3 and 4. like what usually happens. I have never done a second season of a project. So what am I going to do after Al Ostoura? I want to make. something for the people. who did not accept Al Ostoura in the first place.
I will not invest. in the people who watched. Al Ostoura. so I want to make. a police officer. from Upper Egypt. whose father has values and principles. and he loves a girl. from Maadi. from an aristocratic family. I mean, basically. this officer and his girlfriend. both of them. insult me in the comments. about Al Ostoura. so I chose the ones.
who insult me in the comments. I want to make a series for them. then go back to see if they still insult me. so I found that the proportion started to increase. these people were pleased. with the project. but the audience. of Al Ostoura. felt a kind of disappointment. that. Where is Rifai El Desouky? Where is the steadiness? So the idea. later on, we started thinking about.
the class. or the elite. I want this elite class. as soon as you say the word history. in the traditional class. they switch off. as soon as you say the word history. the popular class immediately changes the channel. but the elite lights up. History. I went and made a series called Mousa. When I was reading its episodes, I knew this was not for my audience.
and I knew. that my audience would be disappointed by this. but there is a segment. in society. that's upset and I want to make up with them. Will you pay. the price of your audience's disappointment for a year. in order to win. this segment? I would answer. whether it is my brother or the ones who think with me. I would tell them, yes. Why not? What does a library mean? Don't we dream of having a library. a musical one. and a cinematic library and a dramatic library.
He says yes, I tell him. so this library. has a shelf. of books on psychology. and a shelf of philosophy. and a shelf of books on cooking. and a shelf of stories for children. and a shelf of books on. for example. horoscopes. and crime stories. I told them, that's the idea. We are not going to. fill one shelf. It will not be called a library. It will be called. something else. Call it something else. a place that sells one thing.
whereas we are a plac e that sells many things. We are a place. that sells to all people. Any nasty comment. bring it to me. take a screenshot of it. crop the comment alone. and give it to me. I put it in a file and look at it. and I go inside this person, find out which segment they belong to. to know what I can do to win them. I don't block them. ”I don't want”. ”I have enough”. No. you are not working for yourself. but for everyone who's against me.
that I could not win over. that's a failure on my part. not something. not something bad in them. Why did you make. the audience. end up. seeing you from this perspective? So, you have to keep in mind. what are the projects that we are going to do. that will make this person. who wrote nasty words. reconsider. or say to me, for example. Honestly, now. I am happy.
or like, I wronged you. or. or any words. that confirm that he. changed his stance. Do you think. you're arrogant? Am I arrogant? Yes, but I mean not. in the sense, not in a bad way, I mean. not arrogantly or with conceit. or anything, but of course.
I know my worth. I really know my worth. and I don't know my worth because I am. an artist and because. I have an audience and am famous. I know my worth as a human being. a human being. to whom God has subjected. everything. as an ordinary human being. any human walking in the street. is that human God spoke about. about in the Quran. and in all. the divine books. that He subjected the earth to them. and that. He favored them.
and made them. something very great. and. So, I know my worth as a human being. in the absolute sense. I know that. that I am the strongest creature. on earth, as a human being. because they will take this clip. and they'll say I said. I'm the strongest creature. I swear I know. Do you get me? So, the human is the strongest. Yes. Not even the lion. because the human managed to tame the lion. Right. He managed to tame. the king of the jungle.
You see, in the Emirates they tame a lot of lions. Okay, I will move to. another topic. Maybe more of a. family topic. First of all, What does love mean. to you? Love is. when. your heart and mind. agree on one person. I mean, There are so many people.
you ask them and they say, I fell in love twice, for example. If he understood. the meaning of love. he would discover that. those two times were not actually love. They were something that looked like love. For example, his heart. chose someone, but his mind. was saying, this will not work. or his mind chose someone. and his heart was telling him. I don't feel it. but this is important. I feel that she is the one. It's something very rare. when your heart and mind both choose one person.
It is extremely rare. and so when it happens. hold on to it. hold on to it strongly. because you are lucky. because there are others who lived and died. and they never. experienced it at all. How many times have you loved? In the way you just described? It is once. Once in your life. Yes, the one I'm living now. and what did you learn. about Mohamed. after your first divorce?
I learned this. For example, I learned. the true meaning. of real love. that there has to be. complete compatibility. plus that it is necessary. before marriage. This is also a very big mistake. that you have to be honest. meaning. you state all your rules honestly. Usually you just want to get it over with. so you don't really tell the truth, For example. for example.
Am I more important. or your work? You, of course, my dear. You are a liar. Your work is more important than her. Tell her the truth. so that when she marries you. and she finds out your work is more important. She will not be shocked. and tell you, you are a liar. We didn't agree on this. No, so in the second stage. in the second marriage I was very honest. in that I tell her. Will you accept to be. after my work. and my father and mother? She told me, look,
as long as the ones before me are not a woman. Even if I'm number ten. There is no problem. if number one and two. are your work, of course. on the contrary, I would be with you in that. I support you and help you. and do everything. and put in every effort. and she already does that. Of course, your father and mother. I respect them. like my own parents. Now everything is clear between us. Then, this is good in. that during the relationship. you start to promote her.
Maybe after five years of marriage. you tell her congratulations. you are now with my father and mother. so she feels that she. has been promoted. she does not go down. but rather. if we weren't honest. and I told her. you are more important than my work. and my family. and all the sweet talk. that later causes big problems. She feels that the more. the more. the marriage goes on. she keeps going down.
She suddenly. in the marriage was number one. then your work. went on top. then the priority. went to your father and mother. so she feels. where am I supposed to go now? So she actually asks for a divorce. Although it's the opposite. by then you. so when she sees. ”That's what he told me”. and then in the middle of. any problem. keep in mind. and from experience. when you tell her. remember what I told you. as if you gave her an anesthetic injection.
for a moment she feels she has been unfair. ”He really did tell me that”. He actually. was honest with me. You are talking to me about work. but I told you before. I told you such and such. She says, yes that's true. ”Yes but I mean”. and she proceeds to. kind of wrapping up. the issue. So, every once and then. you start to promote her, you are now with my father and mother. You have become. my partner in success. You have become. so she also feels that.
every step you achieve, she is a partner in it. She contributed. even with an idea. even by listening to you. when you are explaining. your strategy. or telling her about the project. you are about to do. When she listened to you. she feels that she. is a partner in the project. and that she supported you. She woke you up so you could go. do that thing. She felt that she. ”I was the one who dressed you. on the day yo. went and shot that scene”. I was the one who made you breakfast.
and we sat and talked. and chatted. and you told me this. and she feels that she is a partner in the success. So, my understanding of love. is when the heart and mind agree on. one person. Do you feel, Mohamed, it is hard for. a woman to be your wife? With all the fame. and temptations, girls. music videos. and the chaotic life. Is it hard for a woman? Very hard. I mean, my wife.
I am sure. that she may be. She is actually. one of a kind. I am sure. I am certain. Maybe there is someone. or someone listening to me will say. ”No, any woman. can be like that”. It's really hard. and there's a real headache. and there is. very strong psychological pressure. and there is suffering. There is suffering.
there is a price that's paid. in the end we are not in paradise. We are in. this world. I dream of something bigger. I will pay a bigger price. I want to. be clever and pay a smaller price. Fine, then take a smaller profit. Come on, you and I then. I will be higher. and I will pay you a smaller price. and you will only earn this much. That's why I pray God. let me be the top one. paying taxes in the world. People say, ' 'What man, are you stupid?”.
”This is a stupid wish”. I tell them, on the contrary. I am paying the highest taxes in the world. then I am the one who earns the most in the world. Don'r take the profit. and avoid. paying the tax. I chose. something difficult of course. to have a successful family. and for me to be successful in my family. alongside my work. this is something very difficult.
but. Praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds. that you know how to. balance things and know how to. at some period I ask my wife’s permission. that, for example. I truly need two weeks. to spend them alone. as if I were in a camp or a football player. as if I am a boxer. or this or that. of course I cannot be away for two weeks. I might be away six days. and she finds me back. She says, the two weeks finished quickly. I tell her.
No, I refreshed. I mean. but she must accept this beforehand. You know what I mean? It's very important that she accepts that. and this is healthy. for me and for her. I mean healthy for both the man and the woman. This period. renews everything. It makes you miss her. and she misses you. in the song 1,001 Nights. Morsi Jamil Aziz says. something great. the best prayer. for two lovers. in the song 1,001 Nights.
He says, O Lord, may the sweetness of the peace. of our first meeting. remain in our hands. that I feel. the same feeling I felt. the first time I touched her hands. because afterwards. a kind of dullness sets in. Look, he prayed that. this dullness would not happen. so he said, O Lord, may the sweetness remain. of course, the great Umm Kulthum sings it. O Lord, may the sweetness of the peace. of our first meeting remain in our hands. O Lord, with the joy.
of the first date. we find the candles. around us. so that the candles are not. only lit on the first day. then I find a sock. hanging from the fan. and her head tied up, You know what I mean? These candles stay every day. and as time passes us by. it spreads its safety on us. that the relationship. is safe. many used to hear it as “his hopes”. but it is “his safety”. and it spreads its safety. over us, meaning that.
I mean. our lifetime is lived in safety. - Beautiful - Yes. Fatherhood. has it changed you? I mean. a little. A little, I feel that. I don't really feel. the full load of fatherhood yet. but. you mean as in me as a father, right?
Do you feel that fatherhood changed you as a person? You say no, the load. No, I don't feel it, no. It hasn't changed me at all. I mean, of course, there can be. some responsibility. but God has. I mean, I am lucky with my wife. that she. is carrying the load of the household. and as a father, honestly. Of course, as a father, I. I sit with them. as much as I can. but.
the greatness is in the mother. in that she doesn't let the children forget their father. I mean everything is Kanz and Haneen. Haneen also lives with me. She is my first daughter. and Ali. She taught them that. everything she tells them. is that your dad. does not like this. your dad likes that. so their father stays alive. in their subconscious. - Wow - Yes. This act for example. we don't want any noise. your dad does not like noise.
You reminded me of something, Mohamed. I am divorced. and I have two sons. Do you know. how grateful I am. to Majid’s mother? The mother of my kids. and how grateful I am to her mother. who is like my second mother. You know why? During the divorce. and this, by God, is not flattery. they call me, “Dad,”. our grandmother says. I have to ask you for your opinion. and their mother says. Call your father, ask him.
I am not with them. in the house. Wow. That would be spontaneous. automatically, go ask your father. I am not in your house. but she has given me such value. Wow. During the divorce. They call me. they say, Mom says. Dad, Mom says. that I have to ask you if I can skip practice today. She can answer him. but she wants to tell him. that you are present. Yes. So what you said. is gold, what you said. because you are busy.
you are also away. and travelling. This is the role. Look, I like. to reflect. some might say, no. people from Al Azhar for example. might tell you, no. here something else was meant. but. for example. I understood it. of course, it has. it has many lessons. so many. but among some of these. great lessons God has put in this story. The Prophet Ibrahım. when he left Our Lady Hajar. and our prophet Ismail.
he had left. like many fathers who. travel to work. leaving behind his wife and children. Why didn't he take prophet Ismail with him? It's because of the mother. The child is nurtured between his mother's arms. while the father strives. in life, as if it were. a sign. Of course, he prayed for them. God is protecting them. but.
the idea behind the verse. is that this is a man's role. to strive and put effort. but. he did manage to choose. the wife who. who lives for the child. she is not living. of course, for herself. it is very important. if she doesn't love him either. she will not live for herself. but that. the child is. in her safekeeping. under her care and. and under her protection. So, may God protect. their mother as well. I want to tell you that's the proof.
that you are separated. but your children are with her. Okay. Then they are in the right place. keep in mind, you're not free for them. 100%. 100%. I mean, I would be lying. if I say I can be. a full time father. A liar. Exactly, how could we? and I see. The virtue of: ”Your mother, then your mother. then your mother, then your mother”. I feel. that a mother's merit is extraordinary. Many stars have risen. raised by a mother.
the father was absent or dead. - or just not there - That's true. But it is rare. to hear that. there was a star who only had a father. Come on, bring me one story. That's true. It is very rare. Maybe it's not in a man's nature. To know how. to take care of his home. and raise a generation. maybe the father. only comes in at seventeen or eighteen. or maybe fifteen. When he becomes your buddy. ”Take your son as a friend”. There is a world of difference. Do you feel, Mohamed. that your fame was a burden. on your children? Of course, definitely.
It is a big price. I have explained this to them. and they are fully aware of this. Ali, you have an advantage. that your father. is famous and people love him. and they pray for him. He sits next to me and sees. ordinary people. praying for me in the street. and I tell him, look. I haven't given them anything. The man just says, May God protect you. May God keep you safe. Of course he sees that. but. we are in a world where. there is a price you are going to pay.
your friend may sit or walk. next to his father. who is not famous. He will not pay the price that you are paying. that you might. like the story that happened. The kids hit. or did something. - and suddenly - I read it. His pictures were published. That's not normal. I told him, My father was not famous. so I was just a normal kid. I would get knocked down and go home. or knock someone else down. for example. and it was completely normal. Our mothers would complain to each other.
They would say, kiss his head. No, I won't. Kiss his head. and it passes. but look, there is a price you pay. see how things are. So, of course, yes. they pay a very, very big price. I need your imagination. Okay. Your imagination is obviously vast. Okay, so close your eyes. and play along with me. Imagine, Mohamed.
a barren desert. and no one in it. If you want you can close your eyes, or you can open them. Whatever you find better. You are not in the picture. neither you nor anything. just a desert. and suddenly. you see a cube. Describe the cube to me. The cube. It is made of stone. Okay. covered with.
a black fabric cover. How big is it? It is the Kaaba. I see the cube. of the Kaaba. The size of the Kaaba? Yes. Is it transparent or solid? Solid stone. You cannot see inside. a dark stone. Is it in the desert? on the surface or sinking in. or floating? Above the desert. - Floating - Yes. Not on the surface.
Okay. Then. After the cube. Mohamed. you see a ladder. Where is the ladder? Where did it appear? A ladder. Ladder. Is it on the cube? Or is it separate? I see. a ladder next to the cube. but the part below. Okay. - is it longer - below the ground. Below the ground? Yes. In a dim place.
a dark place. the ladder is going down. from the cube. or separate from the cube? - Separate from the cube - Separate. Is the ladder long or short? It has no end. It has no end. Is it old or new? Old. So, it is shorter. than. the cube. It is impossible for it to be equal. or to be taller because it is going down. After the ladder, you see.
a horse. Where is the horse? A horse. I see. a horse without a saddle. That's free. just walking around like that. after the ladder. the ground is straight. and it's a bit in front. and to the left of the cube. Okay.
What does the horse look like? A white horse. After the horse. you see flowers. Where are the flowers? I see flowers. To the right. The horse. is between the cube. and the flowers.
the horse is between the cube. and the flowers. and at the very far end. the ladder is in the tunnel. Nice. In the underground passage. The flowers. are they wilted or alive? Alive. Many or few? Many. After the flowers. You see a storm. Where is the storm? The storm is coming. from the north of the cube.
but the cube. blocks it. lessens it. lessens its impact. so it reaches the flowers. like a breeze. so the flowers move. untouched. Swear to God that you don't know the question. I swear I don't. Okay, continue. I needed to ask you. This is what I see. I mean the cube. - is blocking a big part - It affected the cube. of the storm. So it reaches it. in a way as if it is.
protecting. The horse from the storm. and protecting the flowers. It is impossible that you don't. know the question. I swear I don't. Fine, I believe. I believe your word. Now I will explain to you what you said. May God keep you safe, Mohamed. What's the name of your eldest? The father of whom? Ali. Abu Ali. Well, Abu Ali. So, This question is a psychological one.
by a Japanese psychiatrist. called Kokology Cube Test. You can find it on Google. And it is about. What is nice about this question. is that I generally use it. as a probe. for. the guest’s honesty. because these questions. you don't know what you're answering. These are questions. that rely on the subconscious mind. because it's fictional. So you don't know what to answer. until I explain what you were answering. So the cube. is the feeling. of the self or the ego. the ego or the feeling.
of the person himself. So, it's you. So you are somewhere between. a big and a small cube. because you said. the size of the Kaaba as a cube. A big size. means that you are. a more self-confident person. bold, strong, and keen to be seen. A small cube. could mean you are the type. who is modest. more shy and introverted. and prefers blending in more than standing out. So, you are between the two. between the person. who is modest. at times. a bit introverted, and I know that about you already. That's true.
at the same time, confident. bold, and want to be seen. So, you are. between these two strings. and you know something, I will say it in front of the camera. I remember the first time I saw you in France. We were sitting at dinner. I told you, the whole issue of. Number One, Mohamed. and the character. I know it is a character. You said, Anas, that's true. I was surprised that you. understood that without us sitting and talking. and you had not. formed a wrong image through. what you heard. and reading. This also shows me how much you.
are deep and don't. You don't get swept up. in public opinion. Listen, the cube. that's floating in the air. Maybe. I think I do this test. since three or four years ago. I think maybe only two other guests answered the same. and they were all artists. A cube floating in the air. is more associated with creative people. and are spiritually elevated. It's very rare.
for someone to tell me. that the cube is floating. Rarely. You can count them. Less than five. and I have done over three hundred episodes. Three hundred? More. I don't ask the cube question to everyone. They are few. A solid cube. You know who you are, you are confident in yourself, and it is not easy. to manipulate you. The ladder. is the family. and friends. Standing far. from the cube.
means that you probably solve most of. your problems. without the help of. your family and friends. A separate ladder. Completely separate. indicates that you are a more self-confident person. and more independent. A short ladder. You said it was a short one. actually going down. means that you. consider yourself a leader. of the alpha type. that's so deep. No, you destroyed me. Come on, get down here. It goes all the way down.
The ladder represents the family and friends. Yes. so when you put that. first of all they are separate, I don't know if I told you that they are the family. Glory be to God, also if you. Honestly, I did not know that the ladder is the family. But in reality. I. would like them to be. far from any storms. far from anything. and therefore. Glory be to God that. I. made the ladder. in a basement. - Separate - Protected underneath. and no one knows anything about it.
I really. my family, I mean, they are outside this field. and outside this whole thing. and truly completely far away from. my work. from the conflicts. and from the stuff. Maybe for the first time. Ali's incident. was the first time. the storm. came down. - I mean, it reaches - It reaches. Was the ladder old or new?
It is old and ancient. Old is a direct result. of your subconscious. regarding how well you know. your friends, or your familiarity. with them for a long time. Okay. The ladder that has many steps. means that you are sociable. and you have many acquaintances. The horse is the ideal partner. Her name is Nesrin, right? - Ali's mother? - Yes, Nesrin. You told me. it has no saddle. You see.
your partner as someone who cannot. be controlled. and cannot be predicted. in their actions. Look where you placed her. You placed her between you. and your children. I will tell you why. because the flowers are the children. Wow. So you put the horse. you said. the cube, the ladder. the horse. the flowers. Exactly, the ladder. The cube, the flowers. the horse. Ten minutes ago you told me.
she is the one who takes care of the house and kids. Truly. Okay. The horse is moving. close to the cube. meaning a close relationship. Then you told me its color is white. A horse with a strong physique. means that you. trust your partner and they have the qualities you want. The flowers are the children. The number of flowers indicates. the number of children you desire. - or to have around you - That's true. That's true.
Blooming and full of life. reflects the health and flourishing of your children. as well as your relationship with them. What about the storm? I want to know. I want to know what the storm is. It is the fears. and the pressures. that you feel. in life. So then, look, you are among. the people I enjoyed. this question with the most because. Because your answers are unique. If you went now and did. a scan of every time I asked a question. you'll find that your answers are very unique.
The effect of the storm on any of the elements. It has affected you the most. Problems are exhausting you at the moment. and you are afraid of the pressures. So, you are taking the whole hit. so that the other elements. Only get a breeze. A beautiful one, yes. - Wow - It's nice, right? I think it was precise. Very. This question is amazing. Okay.
The red card questions. Are you a better husband or a better father? A better husband. Oh, really? Okay, nice. I like your honesty. A trait you got from your mother. and a trait from your late father. I took. from my mother. trust. in our Lord.
And I took from my father. Indifference. Why do you say. Not indifference. in the bad sense. Indifference. meaning. leaving your affairs to God. I mean, my mother. I took from her. faith in God and reliance on Him. and from my father I took. to leave it to God.
meaning not worrying about it. Both of them created for me. a strong balance. Why do you do everything you do? Everything I do. in my work or in my life? Your life. I mean, for example. Some people send you a message. maybe family, friends or fans, or a stranger saying. Enough, man. Man, why are you running? Just walk, man, that's enough. See, you laugh because you. cannot grasp. this sentence. Yes. This sentence is strange to you. But why?
I feel that. I mean. that life. requires that we be faster. I mean, I feel that. life. even if God. may God bless our health and our lives. but even if we live. eighty years. ninety years. It is still. a very short time. for our ambitions. So I feel that every day I still.
have energy in me. I am still young. I don't want to reach the age where. where. age and frailty. make me unable. and there are things I. was not able to do, or things. I did not get the chance to do. time had beaten me. And therefore. I like to run, and I have said this. many times before. that because of how much. I keep looking for things. like expressions.
I took too long answering. No, no. I told you there are no limits to the answers. Okay. I keep looking for. expressions. that give me. confidence in my thinking. For example, like when. I discovered. that... Wow, I. have just found out why they called. the clock hand a scorpion. because if it catches up with me. it will kill me. So I have to keep. running and running.
that hand keeps moving. but it must not catch up with me. So does that clock hand ever stop. out of respect. for any event. in the world? I mean, for example, when. a bus full of children. overturns and the children die. Does the clock hand stop. out of sorrow. for the children? It keeps going. So, time is something. that has no feelings.
and does not hate. and does not love. neither affected nor discouraged. It just goes on. So, I learned that everything. has to happen while I am running. I am happy while I am running. I am sad while I am running. I love. while I am running. I enjoy myself while I am running. I listen to music. while I am running. I felt that everything has to happen while we. are moving and progressing. and while we are walking forward.
So that became a concept. a scorpion. because it's dangerous. It must not. catch up with me. I must keep. running ahead of it all. the time. I don't know. if you know. this fact. Do you know that the shark. moves even when it's asleep? No. Do you know that it drowns if it stops? Look it up after the episode. If a shark stops swimming, it drowns.
It has to keep moving. So you are a shark. My dear. No, really. I am not just flattering you. but your lifestyle. and your mind. have to keep moving. because if you stop moving, you drown. It does not work with your nature. You have to. achieve and achieve. Exactly, exactly. And. And we are also very lucky. keep in mind that. you are running in a field.
that you love. Right. Yes, we are very lucky. that's true. What is the hardest. thing that was said to you. at the beginning of your career. and you haven't forgotten until today. “Leave acting to its people”. Nice. I did not get it. What does. the late. Saeed Saleh mean to you? He is my mentor.
and the first hand. that ever reached out to me. And he had a huge favor over me after God. Are you a better actor. or a better singer? A better actor or a better singer? Both. Both, within my type of music. I am at the same. strength as in my acting. but. the idea is that my acting style. had many references.
that people know. that this kind of. or this form of talent. that's so deeply rooted. we have a reference that resembles it. so they recognize its existence. and they acknowledge it. My style in singing. is a new kind. It is a new creation. that has no reference. so the mind. or subconscious of people. still cannot. grasp it, and therefore. I was telling you at the beginning of the episode. they don't know whether this. has a long life or a short life. Will this type continue?
Where does it reach? Like, what happens? and so on. But a person. is their own doctor. I say that in singing and in acting. especially in singing. what I will achieve with the trust in God. has not been achieved. by any Arab star. since the beginning of creation. Since the moment. the world was created, there has not been any human or. Arab star. who is living and based. in the Arab region. who has managed to get his voice across.
to the whole world. while residing. in the Arab world. He did not take his suitcase. and emigrate and say goodbye to his family. No, I am from Egypt. Today I am in Egypt. working on songs, made in USA. So many songs. Songs that could be. right now as we are sitting here. playing in the White House. listened to as a demo. and Trump is listening to. a voice coming.
from Egypt and recorded in Egypt. by an Egyptian singer. So, this is my ambition. That won't happen. It's true that it has no other. because as I told you, in art and success. there are no smart moves. or intelligence. there has to be some truth, a real base. a person who believes. the words he is saying. in this new way. or in the new flow. We are used to. Arab art or Arab singing.
in a certain way. What we are doing now is strange. so people cannot grasp it. ”What's that? He is not a rapper”. nor this, nor that. This is not a festival either. So what genre is this? It's truly a new genre. I am saying it. This is a completely new type. Maybe after. tens of years. it will become. the most important and most valuable. in the world of music. in the Arab region. A graduate of the school of Mohamed Ramadan.
will be the highest-paid singer in the Arab world. He will be the singer who is appreciated. outside the Arab world. who belongs to this new school. that has no reference. Your biggest flaw? My biggest flaw. Honestly I have many flaws. I want to see which is the biggest. Which one is the biggest?
That I don't forget. that's a serious flaw. You don't forget? I never forget at all. I don't forget. Have you ever been wronged before? Of course, definitely. For sure. But. I am grateful for the injustice. Because that injustice created. in me a state of ferocity. I mean a state that. made my ambition.
become more fierce. and this is a good trait. in any successful person. that your ambition becomes. fierce. There is someone whose ambition is tame. So there are two types. My ambition used to be. completely tame. But. what I faced. turned this. this tame ambition into a fierce ambition. A fierce ambition. that could be. having eaten a gazelle. staring to another gazelle.
so runs after it. Normally, after eating it. he would sleep a bit. This one has been eaten. It is completely finished. And then he runs. and finds the hyenas eating the rest of the gazelle. He pretends coming back just. to push them away. In case he wants. You know what I mean? To gnaw on those few bones. before he sleeps. so he finds something. It's the first time someone. tells me about fierce ambition. Nice. If I ask. Haneen, Ali, and Kanz.
“Who is your father?”. What would they say? They will say. They will say Mohamed Ramadan. What does he mean to them? I mean. they will say that. he is a father. who is a bit strict. in the image that their mom. conveys to them, you know. and which settles in their subconscious. “Your dad is strict”.
”He is not lenient”. ”He does not allow mistakes”. ”He does not allow failure”. You must be. the most successful. Man, I can show you. on WhatsApp for example, the last message Ali sent me. that he got full marks. in an exam at school. She instills that in them. “Your dad has a complex about failure”. The thing that could make him say. “This is not my son and I don't know him”. is that you are a failure.
For example, or that you are not good at school. or not good at your sport. So they all have the same ambition, maybe. Haneen as well. in tennis. she trains extra time. I mean. maybe her friends train once a day, she trains in the morning and at night. Because they want. to become something good. in everything they do. So they would then say. “Mohamed Ramadan is our father”. ”and is a bit strict”.
Number One, a slogan or a reality? Number One is a reality, of course. A reality. Because it would never have affected people. and they adopt it while... Not the song. The idea. The brand. The brand. is definitely real. and it is real. with so many proofs. I mean with many proofs. you can hear some of its proofs. If you want to hear proofs. I will tell you proofs. Number One as a music genre.
This is the first music genre. to be made in this way. with this kind of filming. with this concept, with this. kind of lyrics and in this form. in this style. It was Number One. My style in music is Number One. The first young actor. for example, to be the highest. the highest-paid in drama or the most watched. and he is known as a film star. or the young rising star. does not usually succeed in drama at all.
As for drama, we were born to find that. the drama star has to be “grand”. meaning he has to be. Dr. Yehia El-Fakharany. He has to be. you know, a star. of an older age. because. I was born and found it like that. So it was. something strange that the series would be. the most watched while starring a young man. that's something impossible. Something that the mind. and reference say does not happen. A cinema star. would be a huge cinema star.
when I was young, he would do a series. and it would be. in the rankings. right at the bottom. If you could be number one. but only in one field. Would you choose acting or singing? Number One in one thing? Yes, you have to choose. Honestly, it is difficult. in both. I would not be able to say... Basically, I cannot. - True - For me. it is one project. I will tell you.
I'll let it pass because you are my friend. But I will tell you something. Acting. - Honestly? - Yes. Why did you choose acting? Because it is. It is my base. It is the origin. It is. the core of the matter. And it is my beginning, and it is what. even helped the singer, what helped me personally. And it is what. made people know me. So the actor, of course. I will tell you something. I will give you an example from Dubai.
Burj Khalifa. I will consider it. the acting. But the rest of the towers. are very important. If you went and found Burj Khalifa. all alone. it would not be nice. But I see Burj Khalifa. and so many amazing towers. that may not be the same height. but their architectural shape is better. Right. So that makes up. and creates. a great visual image. For me, this is my project as well.
Drama. and cinema. and music. And I personally. I, as a human being, Who are my friends? I might be very strong in these three. and as a person be, for example. socially not successful. You know? So if someone is in school. and has twelve subjects. and passes 11 of them. with full marks. in 11 of them. and fails 1. He is considered a failure.
that's how it is in Egypt. If someone has. failed one subject. they say so-and-so failed. and they don't know that he. got full marks in 11 subjects. He is still labeled as having failed. So I am extremely keen. that in every subject. I pass. in every subject. to have the best marks. so I can say that I am successful. I must succeed in everything. Successful in this part. and in this section. and in this section as well. And you manage it. You are the owner of your own project.
For example, I found. drama here and cinema here. and music here. while. that for example. competition in drama. is evaluated. by the market through. whoever comes after you. is here in drama. So where else are you going here? So I want these workers. for three years. I set myself a deadline. of three years and said I will not do drama. I will assign these workers.
Who are the workers? It's time. effort. thought. energy. and I will put these workers to work on the. areas that need support. Cinema needed support. for me to. I said that in these three years I will do. one project. but it is a project. that's the base on which I will build the rest of. my future in cinema. So, it was the film ”Asad”. So, I was extremely keen on. the choice of the project.
choosing. the choice of director. whom I. I will take this risk with. I will sacrifice drama for three years. and this conflicts. with me as a young man. with the psychology. of any young man. who wants to take part. wants to play the game. How come the month of Ramadan comes. and I am not there? With your own free will. said I will not do drama. for three years. but in those three years, I will make one film.
With the rest of the time, effort, and energy. I will be able to work on music. I will be able to travel. I will be able to do. I will be able to finish many important songs. in collaborations. I will be able to do a lot of concerts abroad. I will be free with my American team. we set long-term plans. we come up with ideas. to turn them into reality. So, thank God, today there is still. one year left until the deadline. and yet I have already started to reap.
that in cinema, the film is finished. I have begun to feel. I have begun to sense. the scent of its success. even though it has not come out yet. In singing, I started taking steps. that were very big steps during. the two years I stopped doing drama. Like Coachella and. Madison Square Garden. and projects. huge projects with big stars. whether in Europe. or in America. then I will go back to doing drama, of course.
in 2027, God willing. You're such a planner. By God, it is not. not just planning. - I am not shaming - It is the idea. you know the idea. as I am telling you. when you are. good at one subject. and you want to stop studying that subject. because other subjects require effort from you. so you can raise their grades. Right. You don't want it to be said that. you're good. only at this subject. but that you're good at all subjects. What is your relationship with money?
Money. is material. and we always. look for material evidence. for anything. So, money is proof. of success only. It is a means. but not the main thing. I mean it is just. a sign. that. you are on the right path. a sign that you have value. When we ask. How much is this watch? Or. How much are these trousers?
You ask and say. What is the value. of this watch? So, the material is the value. So the value. equals a number. So that number. is not out of love. for money. It is an indication. of the value. Which is your value. your value is this much, which means. your fee is this much. If your fee is still small. then I need to raise the work a bit. so that my value increases and therefore.
Its mirror, which is. the amount of the money. is just a mirror of the value. but I have never been preoccupied with money. and I have never made a decision. based on money. and the proof of that is that I am telling you. for three years. I decided that I would not do drama. Although I was the highest paid in drama. Right. I mean, you. you are sacrificing. three years. the pay of three years. does not matter, for the sake of. you. working on. a higher value.
exactly like a deposit in the bank. if its term. is three years, its interest will be more. than one whose term is two years. You know, Mohamed. I understood an equation. that the word “no”. means “yes”. to other things. Exactly. There is no “no” without a “yes”. and no “yes” without a “no”. because if you told me “yes” today. to this interview. you said “no”. to extra sleep, for example. or maybe visiting your kids. No, no, no, no. Great analysis.
I like the idea. Indeed, every “no” we say. Means, right. Is a “yes” to other things. and every “no”, every “yes”. is a “no” to other things. Right. You being in America means maybe. you're in demand in Sweden. but you didn't go to Sweden because you went to America. Exactly, exactly. The best advice you have ever heard in your life? The best advice was from. may God have mercy on him. the international star. Omar Sharif. He told me. compromise on anything. except your work.
and he added to the sentence by saying that I. He was talking about himself. I never did that. ”I used to compromise. in my work”. ”You, be careful. never compromise on your work”. Compromise on your car. Compromise on your house. meaning go stay in a hotel and let. your guests stay in your house. take your kids and stay with them in a hotel. compromise on. anything. except taking on a project. or taking a step.
that's related to your work. only to do a favor for so-and-so. No, I am coming. to Anas because he is. very beneficial for me. and because. I also. will benefit. on the level of... the personal level. this sit-down. in the end. opened up things for me. You make me brainstorm with your questions. that open up ideas for me. and then on the level. of the audience. greater exposure. There is a reason.
I did not just come to do someone a favor. You're a friend. we met in France and became friends. and we had dinner together. We became very close friends. We talk to each other all the time. So, I did not say, I will go and do my friend a favor. I am sorry, if your show was not successful. 100%. I swear I wouldn't come. and I don't want you to. and I don't like flattery. You know, I never like flattery. because the best. things in life. are when both sides win. When you make it a win-win. Of course. Because if it's not a win-win.
at some point you end up saying. “Why is Anas calling again?”. I don't want that, right? Right. but if you say, I like opening up to Anas. and I love to think with him. and I say. I love Mohamed's company. I love hearing what he does. He inspires me and I inspire him. There is mutual benefit. Exactly. Benefit does not have to be negative. Exactly. If. Mohamed could. teach every child in the world. just one lesson. what lesson would you teach them? Trust.
in. God. is success. and I would tell them. the phrase. “In God We Trust”. I believe that. if “In God We Trust”. were removed from the dollar. it would become like. I don't want to say. the currencies of. our sister countries. but it would be just a simple currency. a currency whose value is... Keep trusting in God. Keep trusting, I am speaking. to Muslims and Christians. Keep trusting.
in the power. of the One who created the universe. whatever your religion. Keep remembering. that. there is a very great power. Do your work. work hard and know that. the One who created the universe. is with you. He will not let your efforts go to waste. So, set your goal and say, “I trust in God. that I will achieve it”. So the lesson would be. Trust in God is success. Something you could never forgive.
Something. I could never forgive? You cannot, yes. Despair. Despair. that's the thing. I never forgive, and I hate it. If you were not Mohamed, would you be Mohamed’s friend? I would wish to. but I know he would not befriend me. This man is always running. I would keep hanging onto his leg.
so I could be his friend. But no, by God. I am a very good friend. and all my friends. thankfully, have never complained about me or. felt that... What does Egypt mean to you? Egypt means to me, of course. Everything. It is what shaped me. What. It is. She is my mother. She is the mother. who.
who raised me. and taught me. and brought me up. and gave me. so many weapons. to know how. to move towards the world. while I have. these weapons, which are. values. principles. courage. At the end of the day. we are lucky. to have been born. whether in Egypt or in the Arab region in general.
We have. many figures from the same. soil as ours. Who managed to create great things. So, the same soil produces. this fruit. It means that. this land has produced this crop. So, I am. born from the same land. From the same soil, so naturally I might be. be like. with a bit of fertilizer. with a few things I bring myself. I import a bit of fertilizer from Europe. and add it, so surely.
I will become even bigger. than those before me. Nice. I will ask you a question from. the card game, but you mix them for me. Mix. We will pick a question later. Okay. Give me. Now just pick one. But give it to me. Don't reveal it, choose. Alright. - This one - Okay. Does it stay with me?
So this is the style. of this question. This is the style of the answer. So I will ask it. Then you throw it. You can throw it on the floor. Have you ever looked at. or searched your partner's phone. without them knowing? Throw it. Be open. Of course.
I will give you one of these. so on the plane you can play it with the guys. You'll enjoy yourselves. The game is nice. Okay, the last few questions. What are you afraid of, Mohamed? What am I afraid of? Honestly, I don't. This is not just slogan talk. or anything.
But fear, I don't know it at all. I don't know what fear feels like. What is fear, I don't know. I am not afraid of anything at all. Thank God. Not at all. Are you afraid of the death of family? Are you afraid of illness? Are you afraid of a short life? I mean, I believe. in God's decree and destiny. and I know that. I expect everything. so I'm not afraid of anything. I feel that fear is always. of something unknown.
or of. of something unfamiliar. Once you see the thing. You won't be afraid of it. When we were little, they used to say. the mice room. at school. they used to say to us. Whoever does that, we will put him in the mice room. That mice room was something. It is certainly just a completely normal room. but we. because we don't know what's inside it. So we are afraid of it. So once I opened that mice room. and I pressed the switch, the light came on, I found it was a room with.
upside down desks. and two jerrycans. I said, is this the mice room. they scare us with? I mean, I used to imagine an old woman in the corner. and a huge mouse. a bit bigger than normal. so it becomes. So we are always afraid of illusion. And I am sorry, we. have a bit of. wrong beliefs. that we might have been. brought up on. that increased inside us. this monster. or, or.
this. great danger that's called fear. Beliefs like, for example. walk by the wall. so you don't end up hurt. Stretch your legs. based on the length of your blanket. A few things like that. Whoever looks up will suffer. so you become afraid to look up. Afraid to stretch your legs. Why not stretch my legs and get a bigger blanket? What is stopping me? I will walk by the wall so I don't get hurt.
but then I will never cross the road. I will keep walking beside the wall. and this wall will certainly. have an end. I will go in with the wall and come back. and return to the same point again. and spend my whole life looking at. the other side. But I. was brought up to believe that. I should not cross the road. Because I was told. walk by the wall. so I must keep walking by the wall. So all these beliefs, I think that. that. we must change them. We really have to. We should try.
I don't know. to change things within us. so that we become more courageous. I don't mean recklessness. I mean, Awareness comes before striving. Before I take the step. I will study it well. and the nature of the ground, What does this ground need? What I should wear on my feet so that. I don't get hurt? I sit and study. that very well. and then trust in God. and have no fear. at all. Fear is something. something really bad. Therefore, I swear to God.
I don't know the feeling. I don't know it. I don't know what fear feels like. What does it mean? What should I be afraid of? In the end. Do you believe that a certain amount of fear is healthy? An amount. Of course. A small amount. Exactly, the idea is. for example. that I would be. I would be waiting. - having taken - caution. Yes, but this is not the fear I mean. Right, right. No, that I am afraid. that people will not like it. This is another kind of fear. I'm talking about.
But the fear that. - I thought you meant - No, no. is the fear. Your answer was right. Which is horror. There is negative fear. we can call it, and positive fear. But positive fear is that I must succeed. I must pull myself together. Of course. If this is the fear you mean. - Then yes, I am very afraid - I didn't mean anything specific. - In general - I'm very afraid. If this is what you mean. When I do a project. I am trembling. until the audience sees it. and I make sure they like it. I fear this kind of fear. But for example, I am not afraid.
Not terrified. Yes, and I am not afraid, for example, of harm. I am not afraid of. of some adventure. I am not afraid of. But no. Of course, when I do something, there is a degree of fear that's very healthy. waiting for what Anas's reaction will be. May God make it go well and may he enjoy it. or may God make it go well. and that he likes it. I am afraid he might not like it. that's the fear I have. What is the hardest.
period you have gone through in your life? Or the hardest thing? The hardest period. I have gone through in my life. is maybe the period I am in right now. I mean. It is the idea. of a period where I. I lost my father. That was the hardest thing in my life. The hardest thing. Do you miss him? Of course. Of course, definitely. I miss him. But as I am telling you.
I know that he is in a better place. And I know that I will see him. You know? I will see him today. I will see him. sooner or later. We will meet in the end. And he is present inside me. as I am talking to you now, I see him. So I don't feel lonely. Not a loneliness of missing him. I can see. every muscle in his face. I see his smile. and the way he talks. I see. all his details. I have them memorized.
and they always live inside me. Do you feel there is a word. you wish your father. heard from you before. he passed away? A word. that was. No, no. I don't think there was a word he. needed to hear. On the contrary, Mahmoud Ramadan and I. have just come now from. my office here. We were saying that. God bless, the period of his illness. before he passed away.
Mahmoud tells me. he saw our love. As if during that period, God wanted to show him. Come and see your children. how much they love you. So for example, he is thinking about. the period of his illness. If he passed away without illness. so Mahmoud tells me. No, on the contrary. That period of illness made him see. our care. He would lie down while I am holding his leg. and his toes. giving his leg a massage. and Mahmoud.
for example. put the headphones on him and played. Quran for him, so that. in the ICU there were people next to us. so we wouldn't disturb them. He was moving his head. along with the Quran, happy. So I think. my father. there is nothing, nothing that God. deprived him of. He was reassured about me. reassured about Mahmoud. reassured about Iman. a businesswoman. and she has a big factory. God bless.
She is successful in her life. and her son is successful. and Mahmoud is doing well. his children too. I am well. My children and my wife. were all sitting around us. and Mahmoud's wife. So, I mean. God loved him. I am sure of that. And he still loves him. What does Mahmoud mean to you? Mahmoud is my brother. Mahmoud was the first. the first role model in my life. The first role model in my life. I grew up. with a 10 year age difference between us.
He was the first one I always wanted to copy. In the way he dressed, for example. He would buy, for example. a cassette, Michael Jackson albums. and 2Pac, I would always listen to whatever he listened to. He supports a certain team, I would love that team too. But when I became an actor. I said, Mahmoud, you're going to make me lose Egypt. So my friend, here is the deal, I am not going to support football anymore. You support whoever you like.
You are your own man. but as for me, I will never. go to sleep happy. while, for example, a part of my audience. is upset that their team lost. Nor will I go to sleep upset. while my audience is happy that. their team won. So I will never put myself. against my audience in anything. What's the price I wil pay? I won't support football? I swear I will not be a football fan. Out of love for my audience. so that I stay on my audience’s side. All good.
So he is my brother, my friend and companion on this journey, The first person who believed in me. Also, Mahmoud and I are exact opposites. Mahmoud is very calm. I, I am the passionate one, and he is the rational one. He takes his time to think. he takes his time. before taking a step. But we agree on the point, that we don't like references. We don't like to do something. or walk a path that someone.
has already walked before. So of course, when I have crazy ideas, if I told them, to a hundred people sitting there, the hundred would reject it. they would say this is madness. So I am lucky that. even if ninety nine rejected it. and there is one. who will believe in your idea. and encourage you to go ahead. or to make that decision, that one out of a hundred is my brother.
My brother could have been among the ninety nine. He could have been someone who is constantly. unhappy with my ideas, constantly saying, why are you doing this? why don’t you stay. like everyone else? What is wrong with. so and so, He is fine, comfortable. kind and doing well. So for him to stay by my side. and he push me. of course, In the end, the family is like. ”You are the one who encouraged him”. So he suffers. a little, but it is fine.
What does your mom mean to you? My mom is actually my friend. And my mom also. was the first one to believe in me as an actor. The very first one. Maybe the first play. I did at the school theatre. She came to watch on her own. And then we went home. The next day she woke up. She told me, I will tell you something. I said, what? ”You are going to become. the most important actor in Egypt”. I told her, come on,
you are only saying that because I am your son. So she told me, by God, Mohamed, no. I was not watching you. I said, ”You were not?”. She told me, you were acting. on stage, and I kept. watching the people next to me. And they were. leaning forward. and sitting up straight. And then when. you say something. when you want people to laugh. people laugh. When you speak seriously, they don't laugh. I told her, I don't understand. She told me, you could be acting seriously.
and people laugh, and that would be. not good, or it would mean that you don't. really. convince them, that they don't. see you as a good actor. I thought she was just being nice to me. But she believed in me and encouraged me. And she wasn't like the mothers. of many of my friends. who used to tell them, study. forget about theatre. forget about this and that. I was probably lucky that I was the youngest of my siblings.
My mom really did that with my brother and sister. Study first, No football. No playing. No this or that, because she was keen. that they get into. respectable faculties. Mahmoud also loved football a lot. He graduated in Arts and Philosophy. from Cairo University. Iman was a bit wronged because she got. about 98%. in high school. But because my brother. Mahmoud is Saidi. with a Saidi mindset,
So he said, no, my sister. my sister will go to the same university as me, the same faculty, so that I can keep an eye on her. So she ended up joining the Faculty of Arts. and Philosophy Department, Cairo University. and until now she feels. that he wronged her. I got ninety-something. What do I have to do with it? You got 70% or 75%. You ended up in. the Faculty of Arts and Philosophy. I was supposed to be, in Political Science and Economics. or something else. What my mom then. noticed was that.
Mahmoud finished university, and he. did not work in his field. So what am I going to do with Mohamed? Mohamed. loved theatre and acting. I will let him be; maybe this is his field. Maybe this is his field. Because my mom found that. my brother Mahmoud’s field, or after he finished university. his interests became about something. that had nothing to do with his studies at all, nothing to do. with philosophy, nothing to do with those things.
So again I am lucky. that I am the youngest of my siblings. I learned from them, and my mom learned through them. She saw things. and said, no, let him be. If Mahmoud had been the youngest, she would have let him. focus on football; he used to play really good football, But of course. she saw football as nonsense and that you must. you must focus on. your studies, you must get into. a good faculty and so on.
When was the last time you cried? The last time I cried, was the last day of shooting in, No, of course I'm joking. The last time I cried. I don't like to cry in front of people as a person, On a personal level. At all. For example, my crying. over my father, maybe. that moment. of breakdown you are talking about.
That moment. only comes to me when I am. completely alone. Not even my wife sees it. No one sees me. in a moment of weakness. This could be a serious flaw, mind you. I mean, I don't like. I don't like to feel that someone feels bad for me. at all. I don't like anyone to sympathise with me at all. I mean, I, the amount. of things I have seen. in my journey. I have never asked for support from the audience,
I have told them, Stand by me. Why is this happening to me? Because God has blessed me, you are upsetting me. Never in my life. have I ever. tried to win people’s pity. My father was ill, for example, for. maybe two or three months. before he passed away. I never wrote on my story. “Pray for my father, my father is ill.“. I don't like. that feeling. So I thank God that. throughout the burial. and the condolences, no one from the audience saw a moment.
of breaking down or a moment. of crying. for example, or a breakdown moment. because this is a moment. my father himself would not like to see. Once in my life. I could not control myself. I remember. it was. during my visit to the burns hospital. I went there today. You? Today. Don't joke. I swear to God. Heba El Suweidi. Right. She is dear to me.
Continue the story. This was the first time. people saw. twice in my life. Two times that I remember. This time was when I saw. the children. with burn injuries, and they were. telling you. messages of love, like, we. They ask them. “Who do you wish would come?“. and they say, Mohamed Ramadan.
Someone said on the microphone. go up and say something. support them. emotionally, I mean. So I told him, they are the ones who. support us. I mean, The situation of. the energy. They are talking normally while they are going through. something extremely difficult. Maybe this was the first time. in my life that I broke down. truly in front of people. Because of.
those children. And the second time. was when I was in the. car carrying the corpse. of the martyr Ahmed El Mansi, may God have mercy on him, the legendary hero. I asked permission from the commander. of the Thunderbolt Forces. to go and attend the burial, because I was, you know, honoured. to have met him four times, and we had lunch together and sat.
six or seven hours talking. and I loved him. very, very, very much. So when I heard the news. of his martyrdom, and the commander of the forces allowed me. I went and attended the condolences. The funeral prayer for him. Then, as the body was being put into the car. his brother. may God bless his health and his life. pulled me in. into the car. So while we were on our way. to the cemetery.
the cemetery was in another governorate. Of course, the son of the martyr. Ahmed El-Mansi, Hamza was sitting on my lap. While we were on the way. his brother said to me. Do you know that. the ones who are in there. except for you, of course. I said to him, yes, he said to me. they were written in his will. who would be in the car. with the corpse. So I felt embarrassed. that I was not in the will. He said, But do you know why I pulled you in? I asked why.
He said, I felt as if he was saying to me. Let Mohamed Ramadan get in. Let Mohamed Ramadan get in. because before his death. he had spoken to me about you. and I felt that. if he were sitting with us, he would say, bring Mohamed Ramadan in. let him ride with us. So I acted. based on what I felt from him. in that moment. It also happened. It was the first time. I cried as well. maybe the second time I cried in front of people. And a third time. that I remember. was a testimony or praise.
by Omar Sharif. about me live on air. when I was young. when he said. He will be the best actor in Egypt. one day. He is the one I chose. to carry on my career. I also felt that. At a time when there was not. I mean, at a time. I was facing a lot of. frustration and despair. I felt that that was it. there was no hope. Then came the praise. from Omar Sharif. I felt it like. a light. How can this man risk his name?
and choose to say. I chose him. to carry on my career. How can he say that live on air. and on Egyptian television? This is something very strange. I kept saying, he is definitely being nice to me. but is it possible? In order to be able to cope. I took the positive part of it. and I tried to forget it. To be able to work and function. So that I would not get conceited. Someone might tell me their opinion. and I could say, I don't need your opinion. I've heard Omar Sharif's opinion about me.
That's it. The last time I cried. I took long time to answer. but the last time I cried. was of course. after the death of my father. about my father. but it was. all alone. But your answer is beautiful. How do you want to be remembered by people? They remember a person.
who knew how to speak for us. A person. who proved to us. that there is no. There's nothing impossible. there is no. who broke all the taboos that. that we created. and showed us. the false beliefs. he made us realize they were wrong. these beliefs that hold you back.
and keep you from taking. steps in your lives. are not real. and the proof of that. is my journey. Just remember me. for every good thing. That's all. Now, if. Mohamed. God willing, after a long life. If you can imagine. Mohamed. old in age. and fortunate. to have had a beautiful life.
and your children are well. and you are on your deathbed. and you know that this is the very end. Your children are there. everyone dear to you and loves you is there. What do they need to hear from Mohamed. before Mohamed goes? What would I say to them? I would tell them my will. I would say to them. I don't want crying. I don't want wailing. I don't want.
sadness. I just went ahead of you, and you are all coming to me. So I don't want theatrics. I want calm. and I don't like. showiness. in grief. and all that stuff. I. want you to remember. the good things. Recite Quran for me, pray for me. and. carry on with life. and keep going in life. No matter how attached you are to me. don't ever think. or ever feel that life.
has no meaning. Are we just living so that we can die? Fulfill your role in life. until the very last moment. Just as. I am running. and as I run, I grieve. as I run, I rejoice. as I run, I love. and as I run, I have compassion. I can do everything. So never let the moment. of my death be a moment. of you stopping. Just keep going. life goes on. God.
This is His will. this is what God loves. It would not be right. to ask for anything else. I will tell them not to wear black. no such thing as sadness. There is Quran. and remember me when you pray. with a prayer while you are prostrating. because the closest. a person is to God is when he is prostrating. Just say. May God grant him. a home better than his home. and a family better than his family. and grant me the joy of. seeing God. because that's the truly great thing. to see.
that I see God. What do you feel... Do you remember young Mohamed. who used to look at the pyramids? Yes. What do you feel his opinion of you. would be now? This little boy. who was. curious. wanting to get there but not knowing how. He searches. What do you feel his view of. this person in front of me would be? Honestly, he is the same one in front of you. He is the same person. He is there with him.
He is me, the same person. Maybe it's just that the pyramid keeps changing. the pyramid might become something else. The mischief is the same. Mohamed has never gone away. not for a single day. He is there with me. in my requests. Even my requests. from my team. Sometimes are requests. where they feel these are. the requests of a child. not the requests of a grown-up. Who do you feel...
I was not divided. You know, I'm not different in every phase. I am the same. human being. the very small one. Anyone who met me when I was little. and we sat together. swears. that there is nothing. that has changed in me. at all. Forget about the external image. that might be presented. through. some things. and some statements. attributed to me that I might. have never said. and some. of those details.
but the truth is I am the same person. Who do you feel, Mohamed. is the person. who will sit at your grave the most? The person who most. Does what? Will sit at your grave. after you're gone. No one knows whose life will end before whose. So I don't know. Assuming you go before your loved ones. Who would be the one who sits. visiting you.
and sits by the grave. Nisreen, my wife. I know that. Last question. Mohamed in one word. Artist. What does it mean? I mean. It is like a rank that's higher. than a mere human, a bit. The artist in general. I don't mean myself as Mohamed Ramadan.
- Any artist - Explain to me. What does ”An artist. beyond a human” mean? He might be an artist. who doesn't practice art as a profession. Yet he is an artist. He knows how to listen beautifully. He could be an ordinary employee. who listens to Umm Kulthum when he gets home. and he has an opinion. He understands. He knows how to taste food. He knows how to see. An artist. I feel that he. is of a higher rank than the average person. so he is no longer just a human. He has become an artist. He hears more beautifully. than the average person.
He sees more deeply. than the average person. He feels more. than the average person. An ordinary person, a word might not affect him. an artist might be hurt by it. He might. be embarrassed, he might fall ill. If he doesn't know how to train. himself to try to resist. the things that might. confront him of that sort. So, what I would say. about myself. in one word. is artist. That's it.
- Thank you - My dear.
